Thread 519797030

Are the Russians literal, actual orcs? Look at that lmao

>>519797030 (OP)
That is the coolest tank I've ever seen. Russians are based.

>>519797030 (OP)
That's both hilarious and awesome. I haven't actually laughed out loud at anything in this website in a long time. At the same time, that's a beautiful example of adaptation. Between the barbed wire, the spikes, the mine rollers on the front, they've really covered all the weak points of a tank in modern drone warfare. Moreover, it's a great form of visual camouflage-- at first glace it looks like a pile of rubble, not a tank. War is not a fashion show-- the men operating that tank don't care how they look, they care about winning.
All in all, it's BEAUTIFUL.

>>519797030 (OP)
Imagine you're a suicide drone operator. What do?

based lacewing fans

>>519797030 (OP)
ZIGGERUT

>>519797857
>Golf Charlie 13 this is Delta Oscar 3, Fire Mission, Over

>>519797030 (OP)
And even with that they still need a month to capture an empty field.

>>519797030 (OP)
an another to my collection!

>>519798141
I think I've smoked a few of those thinking they were weed nugs

>>519797030 (OP)
In a recent engagement one of these battle barns spearheaded an assault across open terrain and got hit by 25 drones before being disabled. So they're not invincible, but pretty close.

>>519798493
That would be effective desu. Many many tanks have been lose to small drones slamming shaped charges into the hull. Any distance you add to the point of explosion dramatically reduces the effectiveness and the coverage is a lot better than cope cages

>>519797030 (OP)
>>519798493
I'm surprised that those tanks remain mobile with so much additional weight slapped on. You would think that they would add more defenses at the factory if the engine/suspension can handle the weight.

>>519797030 (OP)
How NAFO troons are losing to this ?

>>519797030 (OP)
Clearly mad max armour has some effectiveness.... Yet every day I see a newly announced tank or ground drone and literally zero have any type of anti drone armour. Is the west literally fucking retarded or are we that confident in anti drone tech? Why the fuck wouldn't you have both. Even China patented foldable cope cages...

>>519798877
Sounds like it works from the videos I saw. The drones explode at the branchs

>>519798493
actually that's not a bad idea kek

>>519797385
let's be real tho, it'll get stuck almost instantly due to being a big heavy snaggy mess that's hard to see out of and get blown up by indirect fire

>>519797030 (OP)

And the ukraine, equipped trained and supervised by NATO is losing against this?

>>519802029
just 34 more years at the current rate

>>519801887
They keep putting more wires and stuff on their tanks so it's probably working.
I still remember "cope cages" and then the kikes started using on their own tanks and it suddenly the phrase disappeared.

>>519802473
what part of this war makes you think they aren't repeating things that don't work

>>519802525
The part where every 3 months a new wunderwaffe is announced and then stops being used because it didn't work.

>>519802029
what would ukraine winning look like? id say defensively speaking, they are doing great

>>519797030 (OP)
Obviously they arent Orks or they would have painted it purple to be more sneaky.

>>519799562
These could be on the chassis only, hard to say from a couple of pictures alone. Removing the turret would make it a lot lighter, it's not like it can do much more than transport troops with all that porcupine plating. Plus I think you could slap a shit ton of metal on it even with the turret (I served as a gunner in T72 when we still had them, they are quite powerful), and I don't think the plates are that thick anyways, the main goal of those is to keep the drones away and create a space to disrupt the cone of the HEAT rounds before they hit the main armor.

>>519802597
they just cycle things that don't work
slavs don't work

>>519797385
>that's a beautiful example of adaptation

>>519802473
This. Ukraine still doesn't use them. There is a graveyard of armored vehicles near pokrovsk and not a single one has anuthibg resembling what russians are doing. They care about the medua image more than about their solders. Guess who has the polrovsk in a full encirclement.

>>519798493
damn he needs a shave

>>519797030 (OP)
War never changes?

>>519801266
the spikes are cope and increase drone cost not battleground effevtiveness, basically every tank needs a drone reconaissance vehicle beind it with anti-drone drones, lasers and jammers or it is like OP a funny thing you need a one or two more drones for then just a one or two.

>>519797030 (OP)
Looks cool, this is clearly to stop drones and works, NAFO trannigger

>>519797030 (OP)
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AlZo da red goeZ faZta

>>519797030 (OP)
In call of duty the trophy system is a projectile launcher with a sensor that blows up ordinance before they reach intended target.

Oops I just leaked classified military technology on 4chan violating international law.

I am become hacker.

>>519801266
>Is the west literally fucking retarded or are we that confident in anti drone tech?
Lockheed shills convinced them that the anti-air high powered laser weaponry revolution is affordable and just around the corner

Lol
Lmao

>>519797030 (OP)
That just means protecting against kinetic weapon is useless so they go porcupine instead.

>>519797030 (OP)
If it looks stupid but it works, then it isn't stupid.

>>519803669
Sounds like tanks are just turning into land carrier groups, but with drones instead of planes.

>>519797030 (OP)
Tell me, friend, what happened to all the wunder waffles the West sent? Where are the Leopards, Challengers and Abrams?

Both sides are embarrassing in this war just end it already.

>>519804091
Think of a swiss army knife versus a full version of each individual tool in the knife.
Why not just have all the tools separated and ready to be used instead of attempting to solve all problems that can bother a single tool.
The tanks were normally supposed to work alongside of infantry anyways.

>>519797030 (OP)
>>519798493
They look like Metal Slug bosses

>>519801446
Average tank without such addons explode in 1 hit

"Tzar" tanks can endure 3-10 drones

>>519802684
>great
Huge losses despite help from all countries.

>>519797030 (OP)
Tell me, friend, what happened to all the wunder waffles the West sent? Where are the Leopards, Challengers and Abrams?

>>519801266
>wheeled tank
so an armoured car?

>>519797385
It's not beautiful it's completely fucking embarrassing for the defense industry that very expensive materiel is being raped by off the shelf $50 drones.

>>519804166
>The tanks were normally supposed to work alongside of infantry anyways.
I'd assume the reason this isn't being done is because dismounted infantry will be shredded by artillery, right?

>>519803801
lmao

>>519797030 (OP)
very cool. It's basically killdozer 2.0

>>519797030 (OP)
So fascinating.

>>519801887
I haven't seen any of them get stuck, yet. One of these tanks has taken 60 drone hits and was only disabled by a mine.

>>519801887
Most of Ukraine is open field, there's nowhere to be stuck

>>519797030 (OP)
FYI, "In Warhammer 40,000, Ork technology functions through a combination of belief and instinct, amplified by a collective psychic field known as the Waaagh!. This belief system allows their crudely built, ramshackle machines to operate with surprising effectiveness, often defying conventional laws of physics."

>>519797030 (OP)
I've been saying since desert storm that tanks are basically obsolete. This shit is like their final death rattle.

There is an entire infrastructure behind building tanks that is running on momentum and cope.

>>519801266
They still believe they can shoot them down or use jammers.

>>519802684
We know how it would look like. Their stated objective is 1991 borders and beach party in Crimea. I'll let you decide whether that goal looks more or less plausible over time.

>>519804096
>>519804628
Blyat...

>>519803244
Ukraine does. They've caged and ERA block'd Abrams, the heaviest most armored tank on the battlefield. They cage Humvees, M113, basically anything.

Its safe from drones, it cost nothing, it takes minutes to remove and its strangely difficult to even see the tank in there. If anything this is annoying to look at because
>Ack why didn't WE think of covering tanks in barbed wire.
Russians being Russians. T-34.
>Blyat if make front of tank in 45° angle tank cost half, tank weigh half, tank twice as stronk, just conscript midget drivers
Germans engineers were shot because they did not think of such a simple solution first

>>519805135
They make sense to support fast offensives. With how small scale this war is they’re 100% useless and drone fodder.

>>519798493

WHAAAAAAAARGGGGGG

>>519803244
>>519805433

>>519805577
Ah yes 0 coverage on the doors where nothing important is

>>519797030 (OP)
If it tanks 25 hits then everyone should be doing them.

>>519797030 (OP)
New Mad Max movie looking good!

>>519805240
>stated objective is 1991 borders and beach party in Crimea
Did redditors who bought crimea beach party tickets ever get their money back?

Roshel Senator

Get in the battle bus

>>519805637
The cope cage thing was
>Haha russian cope cages, COPE!
Ukrainians put an exact copy of it on their tanks
>Brilliant move, its over for the kremlin
The IDF puts an exact copy of it on their tanks
>Look at that majestic anti drone system, truly gods chosen people

The next step is lockheed martin will sell cope cages for 28.5 million dollars per cage and Europe will buy them for that price or else Trump will post mean tweets

>>519797030 (OP)
that is amazing

>>519806268
The same thing is already happening with motorcycles and other light vehicles. Everyone laughs at Russia and then do the exact same thing grinding their teeth
All this Western arrogance will lead to nothing good.

hmm i wonder why they go through such great lengths to put armor on their vehicles, that's what you get for not having western t-ACK

>>519806530
How about this?

>>519801266
Its kind of like how we didn't learn until we got our shit pushed in when the Japanese took Hong Kong...then again when the North Koreans almost pushed us out of mainland East Asia.

Even the beginning of GWOT was a clown show and took the west a few years to get our shit together. We never really learn anything until we take a lot of casulties.

>>519803669
Increasing drone costs and soaking up drones that would kill soldiers is field effective though...?

>>519803972
Well I know the Leonidas has shown to be very effective in tests but it's more of a park next to a base create a microwave bubble kind of thing... It seems like jamming has been super ineffective on the shifting front

>>519805209
I noticed the Russian have moved heavily into the fiber optic drones recently... Is that because of effective jamming? I haven't seen Ukraine use them at all but they have developed a couple counters so they must be a problem

>>519806734
Ya but Ukraine attacking those planes with drones sent the US into complete fucking scramble and they immediately started pouring money into base defence against drone attacks. They haven't done the same with the massive armour losses from the same drones... I just didn't know if it was because they had something for vehicles I didn't know about or if they only care about protecting the officers in the bases

>>519806785
Ukraine has neither resources nor technology to use fiber optic drones to the same extent as Russia.

>>519806996
Oh duh. If you can't protect officers in bases you can't protect politicians and rich people.

>>519797030 (OP)
I only know that the Russians are winning

>>519807158
Ya but they don't seem to really need them. There are a billion videos a day of normal mavics banging into tanks. I just didn't know if the west had better jamming or if the switch to optical was for another benefit

>>519806996
Good point. I think the US is using Ukraine as a testing ground (as well as a lot of other global powers) Just like the Civil war in Spain before WW2.
I'm actually surprised more terrorist groups aren't taking advantage of drone tech. Imagine a suicide bomber that doesn't actually involve a human carrying out the attack.

>>519797030 (OP)
That thing is terrifying.

>ukraine is haute couture now

something's not right about this timeline

>>519807330
I'm actually blown away that the US government hasn't just false flagged one of their bases so that they can blanket ban dji from the country. They must actually be that far behind on chip production that they can't risk it yet.

>>519807330
This is just coping. Even Ukrainians themselves admit that they are lagging behind and need to invest more in this technology.
Fiber optic drones are not a replacement for regular drones, they are designed for completely different applications and often complement each other.
>tanks
Conventional drones also hit Ukrainian tanks all the time. Fiber optic drones are designed to target important targets, not tanks on the frontline.

>>519801266
Greece made one but still far behind the turtle.

>>519805988
this shit looks so dumb, but if it works it works

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>>519808081
Cope cage Japan

>>519806668
Battle houses! My favorite game.

Damn, is Nato's premier proxy ,that has had been finances thrice over WW2 land lease ,losing to this?

Based StormboyZ
What utter Chads

>>519797206
Right! I pray to God they have a sauna on the exterior of the tank. I hope to see the next picture with mangled POLISH bodies fucking impaled on this, several heralds of the Imperium of Man, and a statue of Vladimir Putin adorning its zenith.

Golf car bros...

>>519797030 (OP)
In the US we would call that a slavniggersarus

>>519808181
Sad, they are even conscripting the dwarves from the Jew rape dungeons! What has this world come to? Is there no decency?!

>>519807863
Kek everything is cope with you fucking losers. Shut up you dumb nigger. All opinions discarded.

>>519797030 (OP)
For some reason, I feel like breaking the boundaries. You alphabet fucks should know I have my archives with multiple journalists and they will be triggered if you fuck with me in any way. I mean you no harm and am peaceful. If I am struck down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. All the evil you have and perhaps might hurl against me will be paid back by the Hand of God once I am in God's Throne Room.

I have seen all of your brutal deaths by the hand of the Almighty. Repent, for the Kingdom of God is nigh. Perhaps you can escape His Wrath, you empty sick demonic filth.

>>519808490
Funny, that was my ex's nickname.

>>519797030 (OP)
I told them it would work and so it came to be.

They are also turning tword reconciliation with the US so that eventually there will be a USA-RU-CH pact. It's almost as if govs steals the ideas of anons here and steal our thoughts then create the ideas in reality and that's why it seems memes are magic.

Gov is just stealing our thoughts, same as they advertise things to you online after thinking about something.

>>519808510
Everyone says that Ukraine needs fiber optic drones but you know better I guess

>>519808081
Hey apparently it's a thing

>>519808769
Why do they need to be on par? That was my fucking question you stupid faggot. What is the advantage of the fiber optic ones. What is Russia using them for that Ukraine can't use theirs for. Holy fuck it's like talking to an actual nigger.

>>519797030 (OP)
How do they get in?

>>519808804
I thought the west is gonna go with the interceptor approach since more money that way.

>>519797030 (OP)
I thought it was a house, I wanted to live in it.

>>519809105
Ya lots of defence companies create prototypes but I'll believe it when a country sinks millions into retrofitting their current hardware with something new

>>519808918
You were literally just repeating “Ukraine doesn't need them”. Are you okay there?
>What is the advantage of the fiber optic ones
Attack well-fortified positions with good jamming and air defense. Fiber optic drones are essentially invincible at the moment, you can't jam them and they're stealthy enough that they're spotted too late.
>What is Russia using them for that Ukraine can't use theirs for
Look, Russia can hit certain Ukrainian positions, but Ukraine cannot hit Russia from the same positions. Doesn't that sound bad?

>>519798548
same thought. look at those dank little purple nugs.

>>519808804
They don't work because they aren't spiky like the Russian ones.

Western cage are just shurtzen on the top :why they don't work? Because it's a thin layer of nothing so once the projectile punched through to stop the projectile- it's the same reason why shurtzen in WW2 while a good idea barely worked.

Superior spike-hedgehog: spikes stick outward in all directions so when a projectile either solid OR shaped liquid charge etc hit spike the projectile is now thrown off course veering any and all directions besides straight, MOST IMPORTANTLY even if the projectile were to head straight still to the target the projectile now needs to run the course of this entire metal spike so the projectile is losing velocity and force the whole time it's interacting with a spike/multiple spike ultimately resulting in a non penetration and or a richotcet. And even if the charge/projectile lands on target after that it will most likely not have the force left over to cause a pen or any sort of real damage to the vehicle.

>>519809519
Once the projectile punched through though there is now nothing stop the projectile-*

>>519797030 (OP)
That's not a tank, that a african tribal hut.

>>519798493
I was suggesting this from the beginning. Glad to see it in effect. Annoying that people seem to value appearance over utility or simply can't comprehend the adaptations.

>>519809395
Ukraine clearly doesn't need them to rape the ever loving shit out of Russian fucking armour correct... The armour they just keep driving wave after wave into the drones so why the fuck would they need to reach 20km with fiber optic drones... What position do they need to hit? Why can't it be hit with artillery or other munitions? The fiber optic drones have already been countered with rotating barbedwire fences... So why has Russia put such an emphasis on moving to more expensive drones for the same solution or what solution are they providing that justifies the larger expenditure. Since you haven't made a real argument so far to my legitimate question I'm just going to assume western jamming tech is that much better and Russia is just filled with illiterate rapists who I made the mistake of assuming could make logical decisions. Holy fuck are you ever stupid. Thanks for playing no more (((yous))) for you no matter what your response

>>519801266
I assume they are just in the money laundering business as well.

>>519809519
Stonewall is based, when General Jackson speaks all you chuds needs to listen up

>>519798493
kamakrazee war boys!

>>519809783
This is just coping. Ukraine says it needs fiber optic drones, Europe says it needs fiber optic drones in Ukraine, but one Indian man in /pol/ knows better

>>519806268
Hyperbolic but mostly accurate.

>>519807158
You can buy .25mm spools of fiber optic cable off the internet lmao

>>519806644
I remember when /k/ trannies said that only happened to vatnik tanks

>>519798493
They will never recover

>>519805447
Russians are actual geniuses, I don't think a single Western engineer would have come up with this solution to drones.

Okay it looks like total shit but I'm sure it works to keep drones off

>>519810874
>Literal autisms patch while holding troon flag
Were fucked

>>519810970
Don't give them ideas.

>>519797030 (OP)
THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM

>>519799562
It's a lot of volume but not much weight.
It's also going to be pretty decent camouflage, anything looking for tanks is going to have to squint pretty hard and with them all being slightly different image recognition is going to either miss them or start flagging villages as tank companies.

>>519810970
Fucking lmfao

>>519805447
>Its safe from drones,
[x] doubt

>>519806580
The west is worried much more about optics than effectiveness
>Nooo we can't let them put spikes on our tanks, this would damage the reputation of us being indestructible
But on the vatnik side
>Hey commander vodnik can i solder 400 pieces of rebar into my tank?
>I don't give a fuck, solder your mom on it as far as i care.

>>519811190
I mean it's not rocket surgery, foul the rotors and make sure the pissy little warhead gets inverse-squared out of any usefulness.
The main difference would be cost and standardisation. Welding on a few mounting points for steel wire Christmas trees would suddenly get very expensive.

>>519811414
Safe from any of the cheap kill shit the ukies love and the tank itself is going to do whatever it would normally do against a real warhead.

>>519811822
I think you would seriously design it like one of these. Sequential mount points branching out.

>>519811333

Nature optimized the solution for keeping dangerous things well away from your vulnerable body 200 million years ago.

>>519811942
You could bundle them up like a fascine and bolt them on at pretty short notice. Hell, use a quick release hydraulic coupler. I reckon we're going to start seeing something like this carried if not used much.

>>519806668
There goes the neighborhood.

>>519811822
>pissy little warhead gets inverse-squared out of any usefulness.
Shaped charges aren't affect the same as HE retard, their hgihest effective range tends to be roughly 2meters not impact distance.

>>519812171
Kek me when the first indians move onto the block...

>>519803801
Shave your tanks bro

>>519806668
>honey, I think we have termites

>>519812213
Wow if only tanks were already designed to deal with that.

>>519797030 (OP)
How do they see though

>>519809519
why not make a tank that's only spikes then?

>>519810970
KEK this is why canada #1

>>519797030 (OP)
It literally works, in a few years the US will have an equivalent that looks cleaner, but costed us billions more. Ukraniggers are doing the exact same thing. It stops the small drone explosions. They're smart for figuring it out actually.

>>519797030 (OP)
GROND GROND GROND GROND!!!!

>>519810970
that's a picture of the guy who stands on top of it with a flamethrower

>>519812966
Well Chile I think you already know but uhh ... Your only offense would be a spear canon made out of spears, and chucking spears at tanks doesn't work unless it's a gauss cannon.

Most importantly you cannot fit troops inside of a vehicle made of spikes they would get caught in the spikes while disembarking and they wouldn't be able to sit. The troop compartment would be like a medieval iron maiden torture device.

>>519797857
Commit suicide.

>>519797030 (OP)
Hey, if it works, it works, right?

>>519808181
>Lost my shins to a 30 dollar Chinese drone from RadioShack with dynamite taped to it

>>519797857
You ignore it because if you expend all of your drone allowance you get sent to the trenches.

>>519801266
What I don't get is why isn't everybody going full in on autonomous AI drones?
Can't jam them if they don't need an operator.

It's the ONE (literally) killer app for AI but so far crickets.

>>519813328
It's actually gone full circle since this is what the Soviets were doing to counteract German panzerfaust rounds from penetrating their tanks, they just strapped mattresses on the outside.

>>519797030 (OP)
zamn, nato losing to this????

We do the same thing to protect against magpies

>>519814390
Kek oh no they exist and are in active deployment... The problem is autonomous control over the command and fire of a weapon used to kill a human is still a very grey area we pretend we don't operate in. The spike firefly was used completely autonomously as an "aerial denial tool" by Israel. It was very effective and finding and killing "Hamas".
https://www.rafael.co.il/system/l-spike-1x/

>>519815935
I honestly don't trust israel's definition of effective
they literally bombed kids to kill 1 guy from hamas

>>519805633
The meat inside is easier to replace than a damaged engine in the field apparently.

>>519816101
well yeah, but remember the israelis enjoy killing palestinian children anyway, so from their point of view it's win win

>>519816101
Well since it's being used as an aerial denial tool in a no go zone... Anyone in the zone is Hamas. It doesn't have facial recognition to check their Twitter to make sure they don't follow Greta. So very effective means very effective. Take that as you will

>>519798493
Same energy

>>519816101
No one cared or did shit. We're all evil by inaction. All so we can have muh internet

I hate you goddamned faggots.

>>519797030 (OP)
>>519798493
>>519798877
>free scrap metal and sticks more effective than $100k advanced tech anti-drone defence
this is why that Andruil tech faggot is going to either fail or become another meme tax-dollar parasite company like Musk

>>519804775
Drones don't kill that many people actually, that's a meme, and the anti armor drones aren't a $50 temu drone

>>519807119
I look like this

>>519816865
the next iteration will be anti-drone suits that have big fucking spines all over them

>>519797385
Most based opinion here.

>>519817225
It's supposed to be a mobile weapon not an above ground trench...

>>519797030 (OP)
Cool!
This is the future that I was promised!

>>519814390
pretty sure thats what anduril is developing. Supposedly their jamming systems us "AI"

I was watching a kid who built the worlds most powerful hand held “laser” last night. He’d open that ‘tank’ in milliseconds, lasers would make really peculiar weapons but nothing metal would stand up to even a handheld laser any more than a plastic cup would.
Strange things like smoke does ruin the effect though and could be used as a shield against a las gun.

>>519801266
Well, you don't deploy tanks to fight drones. It's really quite that simple. If you want to counter something on the battlefield you ideally deploy something suited for that specific role. Which means technicals geared towards that. Tanks are meant to be heavily supported anyways. They're basically just mobile heavy cover for urban environments with limited other uses. By themselves they are extremely vulnerable to any brave idiot with a hand grenade.

>>519821204
You are literally fucking retarded. Nobody in the world thinks you deploy tanks to fight small drones. They are deploying small drones to counter the tanks. Thus we are back to my original question

>>519797030 (OP)
That's an Orc chieftains yurt.

>>519821400
Which was answered in my post but you're to fucking stupid to read.

>>519810874
VPN vatnik tranny forever seething about /k/

>>519822290
I said how is the west planning on countering the threat of small drones against tanks... You responded with tanks aren't good at fighting small drones. Yes that's why I asked the question you illiterate faggot.