Thread 520179557

Why are modern men so scared of dating a strong, independent, educated woman?

That's a man, and a sexy one at that

These women have to suffer so much unrequited love and it isn't fair. She tried for three years to get with a guy and he didn't even try and return her affections

>see beautiful woman
>fall in love
>realise she's filming herself and uploading it to the internet
>lose all interest
every time man.

>>520179557 (OP)
No real man wants a woman that acts like a man.

She has to put up with so much shit from INCELS it isn't fair

>>520179557 (OP)
that white brunette girl fucks bbc big black cocks
jewish brunette girl fucks bbc big black cocks

>>520179651
I think both sides have a point, its largely media that has tried to condition people to think like this and a lot of people on both sides of the aisle have bought into it.
maybe its a bit different for the younger generation since they grew up with less mainstream content and more online shit where it isnt as prominently discussed

>>520179635
4pbp
/thread

>>520179600
>79k views

She should get 79 views at most!!!!

>>520179557 (OP)
Another day another grift

>>520179557 (OP)
So 26 year old virgin women actually exist? How can I find one? I'm almost 40 now and want my bride.

>>520179557 (OP)
I'm not scared, I just choose not to. I'd rather date asian women who think I have a big dick and will fuck me every night.

New Jeetcel thread!

>>520180213
Your best bet is a mentally deficient (aka retarded) girl who hasn't been molested by a family member. Good luck!

>>520179557 (OP)
>>520179600
>says that she chased Chad for 3 years before giving up
>complains about being single
You know women really can't complain about men being simps when they pull shit like this all the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGZLvIWlkWM

>>520180213
Not in the sense you're thinking. She didn't need a filthy man

>>520180410
i chased a girl for like 9 years shit is awful

>>520180326
Any advice on finding someone like that?

>>520180597
>>520180410
She is fucking ugly

>>520180639
I can hook you up with a British loli but on discord

>>520180213
lol no they don't exist.
Women love technicalities. They love to say they've never dated, and then you find out she's had plenty of one night stands after a night out, and couple of "situationships," and maybe a friend with benefits here and there.
But they don't consider that dating because they were "real" relationships, so they go around saying they "have no dating experience."

>>520179557 (OP)
I used to follow this lady's channel in the past when she talked about Tolkien and literature, but now she turned into a weird, cringe femcel, making videos about not getting laid and how miserable it is to be in their late 20s and still a virgin as if being a moderatly atractive woman with a deep voice is somehow comparable to being an average unactractive guy..

i gave up dating a long time ago because women now have such extreme autism when you ask them out for some day of fun they react like you just asked to marry them. they basically instantly reject everyone unless its a chad whos dick they want hard. when this happend it tends to be extreme, too. they will give EVERYTHING for that chad. i have known men who looked so good they never needed to rent shit, they simply moved from woman to woman. absolute asshole trash personality but he looked "hot".

personality really matters very little because you always get rejected before the women could even find out what kind of person you are.

>>520180597
wow that has to be some record. how did you not end up killing yourself?

>>520180213
Try going for a "lonely" autistic woman

>>520180920
i gotta delude myself. like the cloth mother experiment. now its actually over and ive been attached to another woman for almost a year. im chasing an extremely retarded form of love where we're both virgins, no experience, and loyal, but she has to be my niche type that makes my heart drop

>>520179600
maybe she should have been realistic about her chances.

>>520180941
It's not this easy.

>>520180213
I met my wife when we were in our early 30s and she was a virgin, and yes you can tell when women are virgins bc even sticking a finger inside her you'll feel the hymen, which you normally don't feel on a non-virgin woman.

Nontheless, she was just a regular girl that never cared about dating. Even though she's gorgeous and sexually atractive to me, she was a very late bloomer and retained the awkward adolescence look until her late 20s.

So yeah, post 26 virgin women exist, you just have to keep trying anon

>>520180941
This bitch has taken AT LEAST 20 miles of cocks

>>520179651
It's not this way because women expect to be seduced. It's more difficult to have sex with women.

>>520179557 (OP)
>>520180918
Jesus Christ how horrifying
She also seems to be one of those people that changes her YouTube channel name every other month

>>520181238
She looks like she's on a high dose of antipsychotics

>>520180410
>le phd
i thought from the OP pic she had a lot of books on show and probably made being bookish part of her identity and personality, but in that pic you posted she is dressing like she is a Indiana Jones era librarian. being a bespectacled bookworm is fine but she can't expect anyone to give a shit and find it interesting. what is her phd in? something pointless like history?

>>520180941
probably walks around in public with those headphones on so no one can talk to her, i see it all the time, weird ass gen z

>>520180941
I've seen 11 year old girls with mental disabilities deliberately refuse to SIT next to boys their age who were slightly socially awkward. So one word: "MUIE"

>>520181340
As a male I started getting approached by women when wearing headphones. I don't understand anything.

>>520179557 (OP)
they are not desirable and give men the ick
shrimple as

>>520181399
>I don't understand anything.
let me enlighten you, when you wear headphones you look like you don't want to get approached
if you look like you don't want to get approached you are either already taken or too good to hang out with an average woman
both of these will make women want to approach you

>>520179651
>I've never met a woman who would think that way
I had women tell me to my face that me being inexperienced was the dealbreaker for them, which was kinda funny because I'm not.
Women absolutely judge you for this.
Also
>I dated a 28 year old virgin for a long time
>for a long time
>still a virgin
she just drained some guys money and never let him score

>>520181497
This, if you're not ugly and you're a girl having to complain about this, you have glaring flaws or a shit personality that keep people away from you.

>>520181368
Source of picrel?

>>520179557 (OP)
>Scared
Uninterested

>>520180941
I want to come on this bitch face

>>520184093
I'd cum on her

>>520179557 (OP)
>the most annoying person to ever exist
>gives you pussy
I got two healthy hands I dont need that shit.

Why is is so hard for women to understand that being tattooed, having a high body count, being a leftist and/or feminist, being fat, and plastering themselves all over social media for the world to see all just make a woman unattractive? Why don’t they get that?

>>520180941
This bitch has BPD not autism

>>520179557 (OP)
what's her Onlyfans?

>>520179635
Its nice up to a point but then they start ripping ass so much it would make a sailor blush. Then they also try to keep up with you intellectually but forget they are as dumb as a rock.

>>520179557 (OP)
All the good looking women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking (7 and above) women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.

tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to

>>520179600
I understand the sting of unrequited love all too well.
She should date me. But she she won't.
I am white and blonde though and her age, and would love and care for her and help her try to cure her post phd depression.
But alas, she'd call me an incel.
And she'd be correct.

>>520179557 (OP)
Cinzia is a kike name
She looks like shit
Yet another anon obsessed with what women have to say

>>520187982
I come to pol exclusively to find out what women say because women don't talk to me.

>>520180213
Its a monkey paw. They are virgins for a reason and its because they are retarded in the same way that the typical male NEET is, just with a female branding. Its not necessary a bad thing, but they have a lot of catching up to do when it comes to emotional and mental development. I bagged a 25-26 yearold virgin girl and are still dating her today. For awhile there she genuinely though that women were just as strong as men, not because of feminist programing, but because she did not have any brothers or any experience with men. I figured this out when she made a retarded comment while we were play wrestling, and as a response I told her to resist me the best she could. She got the idea and carries around pepper spray now.

>>520179557 (OP)
The less "educated" a woman is the better. I wish I could stumble into some secluded mongolian yak herder steppe village and marry the chief's daughter or something, I'm tired of modern women.

Can anyone explain why the only women who are ever interested in me are women who are already in relationships? Like in college the only girls who wanted to fuck me were girls who had boyfriends and this has continued into the workplace as my manager is married and she is always flirting with me and asking me to go out with her after work. Its very weird how its never ever single women who are interested in me.

>>520181319
Normies interests aside, she's probably more interesting to talk to compared to 99% of other people. Assuming she does not have a PHD in smut.

>>520180941
>nose ring

Not autistic.

>>520188412
>Can anyone explain why the only women who are ever interested in me are women who are already in relationships?
I get this a lot. Pretty much all the women that go out of their way to talk to and get to know me are ones that already have a boyfriend or are married

>>520188412
They find you attractive, yet not having the qualifications needed to be considered a provider. You are a toy to them.

>>520189102
I dont get it. so am I a beta or not?

>>520179557 (OP)

No one is scared of them. They just wont want to reproduce and raise their children like women NEED to be doing since career over everything takes precedence.

No career means no success in the eyes of the brainwashed souls of women. Modern men grew up in daycares and after school programs instead of having a mother to nurture them. Thus, we are after the traditional women, which have become increasingly harder to find.

Make Women Great Again!

>>520189586
Not beta. You could get them pregnant and they would claim its their husbands/boyfriends.

>>520180213
She's either lying or she doesn't count bjs and anal(also lying)

>>520180213
Why does pol think 18-26 year old women want to fuck 30+ year olds they don’t I know it sucks getting older but god damn stop being this delusional niggas

>>520179557 (OP)
why are modern women so scared of me being a useless piece of shit house husband why they make all the money?
guess equality isn’t all that nice

>>520181181
A massive underestimate.

>>520179557 (OP)
Probably because they're already married.

>>520188412
They get off on the fantasy of cheating and your vibe is someone who is valueless enough to enable it.

>>520180213
>>520188198
This is true. Remotely attractive and normal girls lose their virginity at 14 now and by 21 have had 10+ sexual partners.

>>520190340
>vibe is someone who is valueless enough to enable it.
explain this

The dating game is so utterly fucked right now. The biggest problem is probably common law marriage divorce. There's not much meaningful incentive for men to get married compared to the gamble. If you're careful you can get nupital arrangements but you have to be max autism with all your accounts.

Realistically hitting on a 19 year old that's attractive means getting in line to be her 17th boyfriend but if you don't play dumb to that fact it will reveal her insecurity and then you're out because that's weird.
If she's 26 then you're boyfriend number 300 by that point. Being boyfriend #300 actually isn't that bad if she hasn't slept with any of them though but that's a rare case. Why did society get this way? Advertising is one culprit: Sell people enough things by means of sexual attraction and you'll inadvertently normalize casual sex.
Just because most women are trash doesn't mean there's not one out there that's good for you, and you have to dig through the garbage to find your gemstone. It's either that or you can't breed.

>>520190453
You could also be based and stockpile physical gold/silver with cash purchases and stash it somewhere the government cant find.

>>520179557 (OP)
drop the link to the vid jackass

>>520190762
yeah if you somehow have a dragon's hoard of gold but no wife.
I guess this is smart but you better have a treasure map for your grandchildren. Looking shit up for an hour and talking to a bank manager would probably be a lot easier than digging a hole. Well maybe if it was shallow and it was just in an ammo crate well maybe.

>>520190999
Its more so for the post divorce secret savings that she and the government are not able to touch. Need cash? Sell an ounce to the local coin shop as they hate receipts and taxes as much as you do.

>inceloid trying to weaponize whining thread No 194719833959829391093
You are really boring inceloid.

>>520179600
I've done this to a few girls now. I don't do it intentionally it's just I'm socially stupid.

>post screenshot
>as question unrelated to screenshot
good show ranjeet

>>520179557 (OP)
>dating a strong, independent, educated woman?
that's not even the probrem (as laughable as such a claim already is)
the problem is she's too old already
t. Xer daddy

>>520179557 (OP)
You're boring and no one wants to put up with your shit.

>>520179557 (OP)
Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.
If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>520179557 (OP)
No fluffy tail, no soft fur, no long ears.

>>520179557 (OP)
That's a tranny, gooner. Also most "educated" people are retards who think that you can be a woman just because you call yourself one despite being a man.

>>520191695
I see your plan to make it worse somehow but what's the plan to make it better later? Or do you just want the world to be worse to spite people?

>>520179557 (OP)
why would anyone want to date a mentally ill woman who doesnt want to cook and clean ?

>>520179651
>it's just men who (try to eliminate their competition this way)

>>520179557 (OP)
dont need an edumucated retard in my house. never met a smart woman in 42 years. fuck all of this.
>uhh its becouze you didnt look at the trust fund dingers where all the smart people at
fucking bullshit went to the best schools with trust fund faggots and theyre all gay and retarded.

>>520179557 (OP)
Looks like she has a boyfriend now
https://youtu.be/47VciLOS748?si=t_q_CmKwxZMuGBIu

>>520179557 (OP)
Because those are the cunts that will divorce and ruin your dumbass life!

>>520192773
roasty and her s o i cuvk
you see this wherever you go it makes me angry.

>>520179602
kek
no man wants to deal with this narcissistic bullshit and ultimately you will be competing with her constantly. two gay men have more feminine relationship dynamics than that shit.

>>520179557 (OP)
Never dated is just a nice way of her saying she went over to Chad's place at 2am for a pump and dump but he never wanted to be seen in public with her.
Why would I want some gross putrid leftovers?

>>520180866
This. And all of them are based on feelings. If it doesn't feel real then it isn't real in their minds. They'll even apply it retroactively "I don't feel like I love him anymore, was it reeeaaally a relationship? Newp, next guy is gonna be my real first!".

>>520180866
its never a real date when they just want to fuck the guy. they want to feel his penis inside of them and wonder how good he can fuck them.

>>520187591
A real women would hold her farts until her colon is boiling with diverticulitis.

theyre so happy when they come 3 times and piss all over your aparment, dont even bother to clean that this up. thats on you. women are horrible creatures.

>>520195165
I still laugh at the though of that one article where a woman died/got injured from not farting around her boyfriend, or the other one where a woman got hospitalized after farting too much for her fart jar business. Women just need to learn that they're full of shit.

>>520190435
Men aren’t generally willing to enable women to cheat. They know this so when they want to cheat they specifically flirt with men who they suspect would be morally loose enough to cheat with them. The goal is to find someone who isn’t quite a scumbag but isn’t quite an upstanding Chad either. The latter is hopeless and the former doesn’t give them a thrill. They got off on the idea of making the guy who is just good enough to not want to help her but succumb to it in a moment of weakness.

You’ve had or would be the type to have to cast away morals for pussy in the heat of the moment. Admit it.

>>520190453
No the biggest problem is hookup culture. A lot of men would wife and knock up women who are pretty and agreeable enough, and there are plenty, even with the risk of divorce if they didn’t have the sense that they are cum rags.

We’re unironically living in a world where the average attractive female has more sexual partners than a pornstar from 20 years ago and they either don’t want to be wives or mothers at all or not until it’s nearly too late biologically. Female preference and behavior is 90% of the problem and that’s just the hard truth.

Men still want to fuck. Men are still romantic. Men still want kids. Always have. Always will. It’s women that are responsible for the state of dating and as for marriage it’s women and their liberal democratic legal regime that enables them. We can decry media and Jewish influence all we want and the law all we want but at the end of the day, these women have self-determined preferences and are living them out.

>>520179651
the lack of logic for these fuckboys is crazy
>hype up casual sex like niggers
>get virgins drunk then deflour them
>reeee why are there no more virgins
society ngmi

>>520187615
You're mostly on point, you can find good single women on the heels of a bad relationship, but she generally doesn't stay single for very long. You can even find a good single mother, though the likelihood a good woman either was deceived into having a child with a bad man, or was abandoned by him is far less likely than you're looking at a woman who either lacked the sense to realize her relationship wasn't fit for family life, or put a petty squabbling before the destruction of her family. There are some unlikely cases where a good woman has sex with what she thought was a good man, accepts the consequences of her actions to have a child, only to realize the child would be better off without him being the father, or the father bails on her.

My point is there are good women out there, many are on the heels of a failed long term relationship, a few are divorced, and even fewer are single mothers. Be careful, but don't pass-up a good woman. The stakes are very high. Humans are social creatures. No matter how many blackpilled faggots say they're better off alone, know that most of them are going to blow their brains out by the time they hit 50, and chances are you're a normal human being who craves companionship.

If you're a young dude though you NEED to cultivate a social circle that includes women. Be as social as fucking possible, practice small talk, and be ready to charm the panties off the friend your buddy's girl brings along to the bar, BBQ, concert, or whatever.

>>520180941
how does anyone fall for this? this chick could have down syndrome, have 70 IQ, be blind, deaf, disabled and retarded, and still have thousands of men trying to date her or be her "friend"

>>520179557 (OP)
Women are livestock

>>520179557 (OP)
Womens' morals and standards have drastically changed over the last couple of decades thanks to social media and shit like dating apps.

>>520195459
A woman was hospitalized after farting too much for her, "farting in jars business"? Bro... At least she's an honest whore with a psuedo poop-fetish. You'd think she'd just water down some fart spray or hire a gassy lactose intolerant homeless guy.

>>520195174
Yeah I cant stand these whores that thinks it's some magical excretion knows as girlcum. It's fucking PISS!

>>520180941
>septum piercing
that's not autism, that's just plain retardation

>>520180213
They are actually insane, no woman should be a virgin, they should be married early 20s at latest and getting railed by their husband

For them to remain virgin as a women 100% means they are insane. But it is better than a whore woman with high body count

>>520180941
This has to be a grift, cute women can’t be autistic as their “autism” just gets interpreted as being quirky. A girl like this could easily get friends and have a social life and have romance

>>520196136
When I was living in the dorms I dated a hapa chick who looked hella Japanese but I guess her dad was British. I had to put a towel under her to soak up the grool. I don't know if she had a problem but she'd dribble discharge that'd trickle down her butt crack, completely saturate the sheets, and whip into a meringue around her vagina. It was awesome but I'm not going to lie it was kinda gross and so much lube I'd have to aggressively rag-doll her to get enough sensation to nut. She loved it.

It was nothing like what you see in porn, watery, yellow, probably smells bad, comes out of a urethra, it's piss. I'd be annoyed if my girl pissed all over the place every time we have sex.

>>520187615
This is true, sadly.

There are exceptions, but not many. I’ve personally found that women who are in the beauty pageant circuit, conservative/trad media and social media, and interested in agricultural/rural lifestyle or interests tend to make better wives and girlfriends because they’re interested in the trad lifestyle. But mostly, all women are liberal-progressive feminist sluts, so at 32 I’ve started to prioritize just 4 things:
1) signs of a good mother (even if not a good wife or gf)
2) good genes (for kids)
3) good sex (hot)
4) can get along with without wanting to kill
That’s it. I’ll knock up any girl I can find who fits all 4.

>>520195776
Stop putting women on a pedestal, you simp. They are accountable for their own actions. We all need to understand that there are plenty of pieces of shit out there who use and abuse others from both genders and they deserve the company that they keep. Maybe if women were given equal rights AND equal treatment, they would learn that getting pumped and dumped by some dude they met at a dive bar at 1 am is not such a good idea. Also feminism hyped up casual sex and dudes just adapted to that since women only understand sex as a commodity and still to this day attack non sex havers on social media constantly.

>>520179557 (OP)
>I never dated
But she isn't a virgin. Curious!

I actually know a 30yo woman like this. She got bamboozled by covid and is like "whoa.... I was supposed to have a husband what happened?" but she's a twitch streamer for horny losers. Educated. Artistic. Got banged 50 times at concerts. Talks aobut her vacations to Europe, Egypt and japan (though one was with her family so she probably didn't fuck too many guys). Annoyingly she calls herself 'a shy shutin' and then has a bunch of whore friends who are also 'shy shutins'.

>>520179635
Most men are faggots ,though

>>520179651
This is a lie btw never trust women they will lie through their teeth to secure a virgin 28yo engineer making 100k a year and then rugpull you and shit on you.

>>520180303
No.title. only faggots like.men who have no tits.

>>520180410
0 women complain about men being simps. They love to use simps for free validation or financial gains. They won't date simps, but they love that simps exist. Where do you pull the crap that women complain about simps?

>>520179600
>self funded PhD student
This used to be THE telltale sign you were a moron not cut out for the academy. Why is she advertising it?

>>520179557 (OP)
Single 30s guy. This last summer I was a beard for 2 different over 30s women friends I have because they didn't want to go to a wedding and friends camping trip alone. The one I escorted to the wedding even basically asked me out during it which I politely declined.

Meanwhile I was banging a college chick all spring/summer and after she moved away barely a week had gone by before a new one forced herself onto me and she's already asked to come crash at my place after the halloween social at her school which means I will be getting my middle age dinky stinky with more college age poon.

It's a fucking mess out there.

>>520196709
i.e. 1) Not fat and 2) not unpleasant to be around. I'm still looking; its bad out there.

>>520192773
Guess what kind of human they will spawn - visually impaired like them.

Look at them!
Birds of feather flock together!

>>520189828
Women want to fuck good looking men, age doesn’t matter if you satisfy the hood looking rule, take Henry cavil for example, he is 40+ and women of all ages want him

"Ive never been on a date"

Translation "I've let 50 men fuck me" without even asking for a coffee.

>>520197333
20 something woman typically want older men. Woman over 35 really are leftovers, they'll never grow up.

>>520196136

It is not. I dated a squirter. Fluid wasn't yellow, was slightly greasy, and had no smell of piss even days later. (We were dirt poor and only had one set of sheets.)

>>520197632
Have a jeetAI response since we have gone over this before. "Blue dye, specifically indigo carmine, was used in a 2022 study to trace the origin of fluid released during female squirting. Researchers inserted a catheter into the participants' urethras to empty their bladders, then injected a mixture of blue dye and saline into the bladder.
After sexual stimulation, all participants squirted fluid that was blue in color, confirming the bladder as the primary source of the expelled liquid.
This method provided clear visual evidence that the majority of the fluid comes from the bladder.
The study also found that in four out of five cases, the blue fluid contained prostate-specific antigen (PSA), indicating a contribution from the Skene's glands, also known as the female prostate."

>>520197383
I don't disagree with your post but I think in this case the girl is too lame to even let a few guys hit.

>>520198069
Thanks anon I knew it was piss!

>>520180941
I'm sure crying in social media about her "disability" will work.

>>520187591
I just had that happen to me and couldn't figure out why the interaction was so painful. She kept saying things that felt like she was trying to tell me she's valuable and capable and all I heard was, "I don't need a man so you should run". These women are so mind broken they actually believe their own lies, that men want a " strong and independent woman". No, I literally want a weak and dependent woman. I know most aren't, but at least act like it. Ask me to open the pickle jar and then fake a swoon when I get it off. The whole thing can be fake, so long as you can fake it for life.

>>520186827
Because they're retarded. Don't let them tell you otherwise.

>>520200744
Women have been so conditioned by society to never consider what men actually want since doing so gets them shamed by their peers. So all they know is what their peers tell them, so they end up acting like men because the lesbians in media tell them to. Its why women cover themselves in tattoos and piercings because they are trying to appeal to.... other women?

>>520179557 (OP)
>(((woman)))
Dude looks like a lady, who cares about his degree.

>>520201244
Good analysis, I agree. I know better than to let these foolish women win a prize like me, so they probably go he and cry wondering why their best flirting techniques didn't work. With a little luck they'll become introspective enough to figure out how undesirably they're behaving and shape up for the next guy so they don't miss out. Unfortunately, it's a lonely life for me, but necessary I suppose. You're welcome world.

>>520201664
>women
>introspection
No, they only know how to double down since they were taught to never accept fault and its always the mans fault. They simply lack the mental and emotional maturity to ever break out of their crabs in the bucket worldview. Only the complete destruction of our modern culture and a birth of a new generation can reverse this. The future of the USA is Amish, Mennonite, and Mormon.

>>520179723
Both sides do have a point. That being said, we are in a gray area where both sides want their cake and to eat it too. Men want to live an average or below average life while having a beautiful, chaste tradwife. Women want to be whores and grind corporate then have some above average male come in and save them or subsidize their life.

Both sides will not get what they want and neither seems to compromise. I am certain we are not going back to the “good ole days” or whatever guys want to call it. So your choices are adapt in the best way you see fit given the realities of the world.

I personally went the sugarbaby route. In my mid 30s and have a great career and all the other shit. Society tells me to marry a divorcee or single mom. I adapted and date young beautiful women who have fucked up finances and need them fixed on an expedited schedule. I’m not here getting angry about things changing, I just had to adapt to get what I want in the current landscape.

>>520203775
>I adapted and date young beautiful women who have fucked up finances and need them fixed on an expedited schedule.
So you couldn't handle the risk of having your heart broken so now you see prostitutes and try to convince dudes on an online Turkey baster forum that you're happy. OK dude

>>520179557 (OP)
if she's so strong and independent then why is she even talking?
also, it's not fear. You've badly misread the room if you think that.

>>520179557 (OP)
>>520179600
Women can chose to be single, let’s be real
It’s genuinely her own fault that this happened

>>520195459
She should have left the door ajar

>>520204091
I’m 35, I have dated traditionally for many many years. After building an amazing life, I can’t risk losing punishing myself permanently through divorce and children with a western woman. Men who don’t have shit do not have to consider this.

I get to live life the way I want, have full control of my time, and get to fuck college students without my wife or girlfriend having leverage over me. I have full leverage in all interactions now. Yes, I would say I am happy.

Oh wait, are you the type that thinks your wife or girlfriend just loves you for you, unconditionally? Lmao at that.

>>520203775
No the root of the issue is due to womens own hubris. Men have been completely ok being the providers and protectors while the women get to fuck around all day at home. Women decided that they want to compete with men while having none of the standards and got the government to force their involvement to create am unequal playing field. Women want the prestige of a good paying job but also want to maintain traditional gender roles, but for men only. Now men have started to check out from even trying since everything is stacked against them in employment and education due to things like affirmative action. The women changed first and the men changed after as a natural response.

>>520204545
>Oh wait, are you the type that thinks your wife or girlfriend just loves you for you, unconditionally?
Not in the slightest, don't be a fool. That being said, God is watching and the only meaning in this life is in knowing what we're doing is pleasing to Him. Legal marriage is retarded, but don't throw the covenant of marriage out just because man's law enables gold diggers (who are the vast majority of women everywhere ever). I take back what I said about you not being happy, you probably are happy, but your soul won't be some day. Of course, you don't believe any of that so I don't expect you to do anything more than ridicule my comment. You do you, you're not harming anyone so far as I can tell, so what concern of it is mine?

>>520204689
I agree they changed first. I also do not think that we will have any major cultural shifts that will make them change in the next 100 years. I just don’t see the point in being mad at them. Yes their standards are ridiculous and no, they will not be lowering them.

The times where they weren’t in the workforce and we could just work a job at the ford plant and support a family of 4 are over. I just don’t get why people are so stuck in the past, they should try to adapt is my argument in whatever way they see fit.

>>520196752
You sound like a nigger complaining there aren't more bars on his local liquor store so that it say in business

>>520204992
I don’t disagree with what you say, but we don’t live in a world where a western woman will agree to a “covenant” without the security of the legally binding contract. I do believe if guys want a traditional marriage, they can still find that…it’s just on the other side of the world.

I do not wish badly on anyone and I really hope people find that godly and true love. I also do think people are foolish if they believe they will find that in late 2025 America or Western Europe.

You do not have to go moral crusader on me. I have my beliefs and I treat my women well. They are financially taken care of, my home environment is clean and peaceful, I do not apply stress or pressure to any of them. When I mention leverage, the leverage I am talking about is the ability to say “no” or “I’m done”. Most contractually married or people with girlfriends who cohabitate do not have that.

>>520203775
The good ol days can and will be brought about forcefully, whether you're on the side of the conquered, or conqueror, is up to you

>>520205934
Not in my lifetime. Of course there are exceptions like a world war…but other than that it would take 70+ years or societal change, media influence, etc. We sure did not get here overnight.

>>520179557 (OP)
I don't think men's brains are wired to love a career woman. Men are wired to protect and provide for a woman. This protecting and providing is what helps cultivate a man's love for his partner. If the woman does not require protection or providing for, if she's a strong independent boss lady, then a man loses his purpose.

I think a man would prefer a 4/10 poor vulnerable woman he can protect and provide for over a 7/10 boss lady. I just don't think a boss lady can be loved in a traditional sense. I don't think men's brains are meant to work that way.

>>520179600
>>520179557 (OP)
>self funded PHD

what does this mean? she bought a degree?

>>520179557 (OP)
>26
What a whore. Get on my dating powerlevel.

>>520179557 (OP)
>I never dated before
>heres my dating advice
all too common in the modern grifting era

>>520205297
The real issue is that there was an attack on the youth, particularly in the early 2000. That targeted both masculinity and femininity at the same time, using women as the weapon. It was all very artificial but strictly enforced under false pretenses by women at all times. The culture WILL change in a few generations too when all this disfunction destroys the very thing that allowed it to propagate in the first place, but not before we all suffer the consequences. That being a welfare state that can no longer support itself since they attacked and disenfranchised their very foundation. Women will be forced to drop their hold on society since they are not willing to work the jobs that keep the society functioning. They will be left with a choice of everyone's living standards plummeting due to their own greed, or they give some of of their power back to allow men to prosper as well. There is also the 3rd option of foreigners taking over and installing their own values on government.

>>520205664
Its more like a nigger complaining that the liquor store is going out of business because it thinks other niggers wont keep breaking into the place. Ignoring why those metal bars exist in the first place and blaming the niggers for it shutting down, when it had the tools at its disposal to prevent it. Failing to acknowledge that criminals have existed for all of time and pretending they will go away with thoughts and feelings is naive at best and suicidal at worst. Our constitution reflects this with the 2nd amendment for a reason. Stop outsourcing your personal safety.

>>520179651
I have not found a single women who wasn't astonished learning about my virginity. There has always been a negative reaction so she can just shut the fuck up.

>>520179600
Who cares? Men experience unrequited love all the time and they are expected to get over it and move on with their lives. Why do you think women are entitled to special treatment? Speaking of unrequired love anyone remember that old YouTube video of a girl proposing or being rejected and then storming out of the house a party was in? I saw it in like the 2010s or something.

>>520179651
Lmfao. Women have pre-selection bias and women don't typically like men that no other woman likes. In fact, a woman will dump a man even if there is nothing wrong with him if her girlfriends influence her to.

>smart
>educated
>woman
Pick one

>>520180597
How is that even possible?

>>520206053
It takes that long and that much effort to convince people to live opposed to their nature, it only takes realizing what's occurring to fix it. However long it'd take you to get sucked into a jet engine and splattered all over the place is how abrupt the change will be.

>>520181399
Women are attracted to anti-social behavior in men. Criminality, criminal history, or delinquency are some of the of the greatest aphrodisiacs a man can have.

>>520181645
>I had women tell me to my face that me being inexperienced was the dealbreaker for them, which was kinda funny because I'm not.

What made them tell that to you if you're not?

>>520186827
Because men and women who have those traits tend to be impulsive and lack any sort of reflection in the first place.

>>520206665
Once again, these things will take 70-100 years and that does not concern me. There were a ton of things that happened to get us to this point. The court system for child support, divorce etc. also had to change after the welfare state, so on and so forth.

I also noticed you used the term give some of their power back. My whole point is you can indeed find a way to have power over them currently, it’s simply leverage. It just doesn’t look like it did back before they couldn’t work.

Personally, I will not be sitting here jerking off praying that the 1930s come back quickly while being pissy about Instagram and tinder being invented, I just don’t see that as a good use of my time.

>>520206951
Their nature is still being satisfied. They are still sleeping with men above their league. They are still surviving.

>>520205790
You didn't say a single thing I disagree with here, anon. In fact, I emphatically agree.

>>520196060
Their morals are the same as they have always been they just have the freedom to act on them now.

>>520179557 (OP)

WOW ANOTHER WAHMMEN THREAD

>>520196831
>Got banged 50 times at concerts.

How do you know this?

>>520207117
>What made them tell that to you if you're not?
women are incredibly bad at reading people.
they just make up some headcanon about your personality based on the way you look and then decide that this must be reality.
I look fairly non-threatening, so women always assume I'm some docile beta.

>>520206702
How did they react exactly?

>>520207557
why do you care?

>>520179651
>>520196884
>>520206702
some women are really virgins, you can find them on dating apps

>>520179557 (OP)
Who would marry a girl over 25
Hahah

Use them like the last 10 dudes and then bail and say you know you aren’t ok with her past and want to end on good terms.

They flip out but will still call you for sex and then tell you about new men they met to try to make you jealous. I would tell them they should pursue the relationship after fucking and it is the biggest mindfuck for them. They will date other dudes and still come for sex. Women are way way more fucked up than you can imagine at 16, then you see the insanity and your bros fall to misery and you either join them or accept women’s terms that their body their choice and don’t judge them and use them for their holes.


I recommend all you protocucks actually dump a woman, then go get a sex massage and instantly you won’t give a fuck about them. If you sit there stewing your brain starts to rationalize dating a hoe, so you need to fuck a hoe to remember these girls did the same for free for a dozen dudes in hs and college and it was just your turn, not your girl.

You know why the younger generation of men aren’t going along with bullshit women? My generation is warning them explicitly about the behavior you don’t have to accept

It would be better to pay women for sex than to marry a used 25 year old

>>520207321
I simply fear that the government will simply continue to double down on these aspects to the point you cant even grow your own food without some cunt putting you on a registry so they can confiscate it later. People like to think they can ignore society, but they forget that society wont ignore you as long as you have something they want. I agree with your sentiment but dont get complacent.

>>520207620
I'm just curious.

>>520207432
I think women are irrelevant and their opinions and decisions should be treated as such. It's men living counter to their nature under the subjugation of women.

>>520207684
>woman says something
>that means it is true
>especially on the internet

What women consider a virgin might be different from what you consider a virgin. There are women who have given men blowjobs and etc. that believe they are virgins because they didn't go all the way.

>>520207684
Considering the things I see in the background, I believe her.

>>520207767
We have more agency on our individual outcomes than we think. I just know I’m certainly not the one who will bring about massive societal change, that’s all.

>>520208284
Sure but how many of our country men bent the knee and got the vaxx to avoid any sort of hardship? Only those with agency in the first place can decide for themselves, agency requires personal strength which many obviously do not have.

>>520207712
>Who would marry a girl over 25
>Hahah

I married a 34 year old when I was 30. We were sleeping together prior to marriage and she said she had only slept with two prior. After I proposed she asked if we could wait until marriage because of Jesus' sake. I agreed because it was also weighing on my conscious believing I was sinning, so no problem, wait the remaining months until marriage. We get married, things are happy, then she starts saying "I'm unhappy" and demand that I go to therapy. Since I had agreed to do so once we were married, I obliged her. Well, it was a waste of time, but she started showing her true colors after. She held the pussy hostage and I said I don't negotiate with terrorists, so she divorced me. Even 50/50 split which was fair as she had been working the whole marriage and she kept her new found debt due to going back for a masters. She was gone when I was 33 and she was 37. I'm 34 now and met a 25 year old that I probably had a shot with, but even she felt too old given that she's halfway through her egg years. I think 19-20 is probably the sweet spot, though 16 is peak if I'm being honest. The social stigma would be huge, but once you know women you realize they're all the same post puberty. They yap about the same crap and there's no additional emotional maturity. Sure they get more life experience, so old women are good at teaching young women to shape up, but from a man's perspective they're all the same. Will I ever find a younger woman in the west? Ha, almost certainly not. A betting man would never put his money on me and fair enough, but since I can't travel and I live in the west my options are either keep my insane standards thus protecting my peace or settle for a roastie hag...what would you have me do? I'd rather suffer singleness than with a contentious 30 something again.

>>520204545
>I can’t risk losing punishing myself permanently through divorce and children with a western woman
This is not said enough. I get that I'm a sperg so maybe it's hopeless for me anyway but hypothetically I would be more willing to dig through the rough to find someone if there wasn't a financial landmine waiting for me if I fuck up. Not exactly a good motivator to say the least.

>>520207557
>Really anon? You never had sex? You never had a relationship with a woman?
I think the bewilderment dominated. Apparently normies can't think of not being entertained by some other asshole living with you.

>m7KiLAlr
Pipe down eglinfag, you're not convincing anyone to get dicked down in a raw deal

>>520206318
she's not using daddies money and she isn't getting grants because her phd is useless

>>520208488
I agree. The best I can do is live prosperously. Cannot control others behavior (unfortunately).

>>520196707
I had an Indian mistress like this. My car, couch and mattress had stains.

Then I hooked up with a white girl that watched porn and she said she could squirt and I told her if she pissed on me or my stuff I would toss her out the door.
>it’s not pee
I stopped and said it’s piss and it’s gross.
>fine
Nah I’m grossed out now. You watch too much nasty piss porn


Gentlemen, don’t stay with trash for ass.

>>520208488
>Sure but how many of our country men bent the knee and got the vaxx to avoid any sort of hardship?

I've thought about that very fact a quite a bit myself. On one hand, right now before the full truth comes to light, women are probably fairly honest about their VAX status and you can trust it. But, once the mainstream finally accepts the real truth, they'll have every incentive to lie. In a sense, you're running out of time finding an unvaxxxed lineage to marry up with. Because the vaxxxies will have children and that's when this whole thing gets real wild. They need to make a reliable test for covid VAX status so we can run it on potential suitors. My questions would be, are you a Christian, are you a virgin and what is your VAX status? Of course you can't trust a woman's words, but those are questions deserving of truthful answers.

>>520179557 (OP)
youre a whore OP, there is nothing 'strong and independent' about the fact that you are a tattoo covered skank that lets lowlifes fuck you everyday, doesnt take a brain to do that

>>520208877
The most we can do is network with like minded individuals and create a parallel economy as things fall down around us. Good luck out there my good man.
>>520208976
Its a huge anxiety of mine if this relationship I currently have fall through. If things are successful, I still have to worry about who my children pair up with.

>>520188412
Wtf
Same thing happened to me.

>>520208607
God bless anon.
Women are broken.

>>520179651
>I've never met a woman who would think that way
Why do women just lie like that? They will literally lie about anything just so that they aren't wrong in the moment.

>>520209129
The thing is they have a man, so now they can see what they can get away with. He didn’t fuck a baby into them so subconsciously they are still single.

I say go for it if they don’t have kids.

>>520180308
OP look like that.

>>520209123
I have no advice, only sympathy, anon. I have the same concern.

>>520209204
They really are, anon, they really are. Picrel. My wife was never my purpose in life, but she sure did make that perennial struggle something I was more excited than ever to tackle.

Here's the thing about why women are driven to education and career, they increase their tier list of men. They have been programmed to have scale of quality depending on what they have.

So girl gets bachelor's degree, she goes for men with masters. Depending on how much the chick wants chad, she'll go as far as she can, then always date up.

Which is why if you are with a girl with any upward mobility in education or career, stop it right now. They will abandon you as soon as their status is reached. So best to find a girl with a stable horizon who still thinks you're chad. If you allow them to move up, they will dump.

>>520180941
>a "lonely" autistic woman
all she want's is to hoe out with the other hoes
who find her cringy AF

fuck em all to hell

>>520179557 (OP)
>strong, independent, educated woman?
sounds insufferable why would i want that

>>520206318
>>520179600
Sounds like PhD in something useless where you dont get funding so you need to pay for your own PhD that will provide you with zero value

>>520188681
you have never interacted with a female phd? they are more retarded and boring than the average female

>>520209858
>So best to find a girl with a stable horizon who still thinks you're chad.
chad is code for betabux
this is great advice, find a poor girl who wants you for your money, that usually makes for a strong marriage

>>520210097
I would honestly listen to someone drone on about their books instead of idols and TV shows. I am sure their ego is fucking obnoxious to be around.

>>520209899
my redpill moment was when the nerdie, church going bookworm girl that grew up in my my bumfuck nowhere village started yapping about the bi-yearly dildo parties (the 18+ version of a tupperware party) in her dorm building.
Imagine there being a male equivalent to this shit fleshlights. Imagine going there and telling another person about this shit, instant social death

>>520209858
just get yourself a tradie gf
she might not be the smartest but college whores are fucked

>>520210821
>bi-yearly dildo parties
say more. is this common practice in germany?

>>520210540
It's not even that. When I was in my doctoral program, the one girl that actually spoke English natively (lol) could talk about nothing but being from her bumfuck flyover state or about how she LOVES her dog or some other absolute npc shit. Was engaged to a bald soijak too kek. They're no better in any way than some bitch on a dating app who works at Dairy Queen.

>>520211060
this was years before the coof, who knows what depraved shit zoomers are up to these days

>>520211042
Women don't do the trades. Most happy marriages I've ever seen there's a gap and the man is the "dumber" one with fewer degree qualifications. The man is either a cop or a fireman or a tradie and the woman has the degree, and the degree is almost always useless bullshit, but it does permit her to have a desk job somewhere.

>>520211419
>Most happy marriages I've ever seen there's a gap and the man is the "dumber" one with fewer degree qualifications
i seriously doubt it
one of my friends is in this position and his gf is constantly bragging about how much more money she makes

>>520211627
Its not the win she thinks it is, lmao. I told my GF that if she tries to undermine me in public, then I simply wont be with her in public and she will be disinvited from all of my family gatherings. Its working so far.

>you must enslave yourself to a woman, goy!
No thanks, rabbi.

>>520179600
>She tried for three years to get with a guy and he didn't even try and return her affections
lol this is some shit an incel would do. Does she understand that she is basically an incel?

Or is dogging on, and comparing people to incels not cool anymore when it's a straight white woman? Faggots.

>>520211627
Most foid degrees don't make shit they're teachers or some other stupid social service bullshit or they're a receptionist somewhere. Nurses make good though.

>>520211980
>she is basically an incel
femcels don't exist though

>>520203775
I was really buying into what you were saying until you revealed you're into financial domination or some shit. Fucking faggots like you rewarding bad behavior in women is saying, not only is this behavior okay, I WANT IT TO HAPPEN MORE. Morons.sahs

>>520179557 (OP)
Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.
If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>520212087
Imagine if after I read her deeply personal story, I said that she's a big blown out pussy femcel and needs to go shower. This was the average attitude toward struggling young lost men not even 2 years ago. Lol, you can still find it here and there in libfag areas of the internet, Leddit, etc...

>>520179557 (OP)
>a strong, independent, educated woman
Q. If they're so strong and indepentent and so highly educated... why do they want a man and his money?

>>520179557 (OP)
Women NEVER initiate anything.
>their role is 'acceptor'
They wait for a man to have an idea and then either sneer at it or begrudgingly accept it tentatively as perhaps a good idea.
>
THE FACT IS DEMONSTRATED BY THE FACT OP COULD EASILY DECIDE SHE DOESN'T NEED A MAN, CAN GO TO A SPERM BANK ANYTIME, GET SOME SHOVED UP HER AND HAVE A BABY ALONE ON HER TERMS AND RAISE IT WITH HER OWN MONEY. SHE NEEDS NO MAN... BUT NEEDS A MAN TO TELL HER THAT IDEA.
>women never know what they want or how to get it... but they know what they don't want
Women choose paths in life like they choose shoes;
>SLOWLY BUT FOR TRIVIAL REASONS
>
BTW nobody is scared of you, luv
>
We just value our time and what we have laboured to earn with our time.

Holier than thou girl