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Anonymous (ID: ogQrQB6k) No.520197830 [Report] >>520199333 >>520199552 >>520199978 >>520201005 >>520204252 >>520204819 >>520205183 >>520205561 >>520208216 >>520208820 >>520209186
Once an illusion is broken, it can’t be put back together. People who think society can “return” to religion, tradition, or any past belief system don’t understand how illusion works. In the past, people didn’t question their beliefs because they had no reason to—religion, morality, and social order all felt natural, like the air they breathed. But once people see that these systems were built by humans, not some higher power, the spell is broken. Even if they try to believe again, it’s never the same. It’s like trying to enjoy a magic trick after you’ve learned how it works—you can pretend, but deep down, you know it’s fake. That’s why modern religious revivals always feel forced, why politics feels like empty theater, and why people struggle to find meaning. Once the illusion collapses, it loses its power forever.

This is why today’s world feels so empty and chaotic. The myths that once gave people a sense of purpose—God, country, destiny—have all been exposed as human-made, but nothing new has taken their place. Some people react with denial, trying to force the old ways back, but it never works because the foundation is gone. Others fall into despair, feeling lost without a grand story to follow. But the only real way forward is to stop looking for another illusion to replace the old ones. Instead of trying to rebuild broken myths, people need to face reality as it is—without running from it, without clinging to comforting lies. It’s a painful process, but it’s also the first step toward real freedom.
Guy with big mustache (ID: 6abhqGkl) United States No.520198412 [Report]
That's why we need to rise up with NEW values and beliefs
Anonymous (ID: gc5gNV8S) United States No.520199118 [Report]
Even disillusioned people still have a belief, it's just unseen because it's new and forming into reality
Anonymous (ID: /eBQ2fyF) Canada No.520199333 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
History and culture are cylical not linear. You got duped midwit bro.
Anonymous (ID: PQu3SRC9) United States No.520199552 [Report] >>520200478
>>520197830 (OP)
religion has been around since humans and it's never went away, and there's a reason for that. you think you're a smarty pants because you've broken some "illusion" but you're just a midwit larping as intellectual. the anti-religion/spritual current has claimed many victims because it's low hanging fruit for midwits, and you're one of them.
Jove (ID: NpOKdhv3) Ireland No.520199978 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)

Illusion ?

They have yet to realize that modernity is a lliteral front for an occult agenda. At first they will attempt to rationalize it, but eventually they will see that the scale of what confronts them supersedes human abilities

the realization will come as quite a shock, and having been dispelled of the actual illusion that they thought was real, will return to the truth (which they where enchanted into believing to be an illusion)
Anonymous (ID: 6abhqGkl) United States No.520200478 [Report] >>520204503
>>520199552
Sky worship is in our DNA. We don't have to worship Allah tho
Anonymous (ID: ++iNb/Ot) United States No.520201005 [Report] >>520202862
>>520197830 (OP)
>But the only real way forward is to stop looking for another illusion to replace the old ones

That's where you're wrong. The illusion is the Thesis, countering the illusion is the Anti-Thesis. What's needed is for them to form a new Synthesis where the good parts of the illusion are retained while the bad parts of the illusion are discarded.
ChatTDG !!Z0MA/4gprbd (ID: qdcD/n5n) No.520202862 [Report] >>520205930
>>520201005

Why illusion again? It is just a civilizational disease.
Anonymous (ID: QkRKeXUi) United States No.520204252 [Report] >>520204328
>>520197830 (OP)
Yes, anon. I agree with all you've said here and have myself experienced disillusionments which were one-way trips, as most of them are.

But there are natural entities worthy of reverence and devotion. For whites, that entity is the collective White People of whom they are an inseparable part. No mysticism, no supernatural aspect, gives the White People its value or authority. It has these merely by existing, and to a white person in relation to it, merely by being white.

The secular practice of these relationships between the individual, the whole, and individuals within the whole is THEUS. The elevated (or divine) component (or derivative) of this practice is THEUSISM.

Theus is a practice of Positive White Identity that seeks to revive a new White Society that provides the benefits to whites that any society provides to its people. It is created through ever-expanding and ever-strengthening social bonds between whites, motivated explicitly by Positive White Identity.
Anonymous (ID: QkRKeXUi) United States No.520204328 [Report] >>520204796
>>520204252
Unlike invisible gods, belief in the White People does not require faith. In any case, some would argue all gods are but abstractions distilled over time.

What are gods and prophets, after all?
Are they not reflections of the people who worship them?
Does a god not embody the unique spirit of the people who follow him?

In Theus:
To do good works for your god is to do good works for your people.
To call upon your god for assistance is to call upon your people for assistance.
To look to your god for strength is to look to your people - all of them through the ages - for strength.
To seek godly wisdom is to seek wisdom in the traditions of your people.
To lead a godly life is to live a life that strengthens your people.

In this concept we see the closing of the circle that is left open - lost - in similar sentiments felt in regard to traditional religions. This is one illustration of the balance and reflexivity which contribute to to the aesthetics of Theus.

Your deity is your people, as a collective entity: the White People.
At this time, this entity lies broken, unconscious, and scattered.
White men and women are its living host, and each possesses a fragment of the whole.
Our task as whites is to reassemble these fragments into a complete being again.
To bring the White People back to consciousness.

T H E U S
H E U S T
E U S T H
U S T H E
S T H E U
Anonymous (ID: e90x6lKD) No.520204503 [Report]
>>520200478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyL3Ymbwn4
Anonymous (ID: QkRKeXUi) United States No.520204796 [Report]
>>520204328
As mentioned, Theus is a secular practice, and it is intended not to conflict with the various supernatural faiths held by white men. Believers in other faiths are welcome in Theus if they are white-positive.

I will further note that Theus is not a political project. It does not depend on the existence of a white ethnostate, dominance in any geographical region, or even numerical majority. The measured strength of a branch of Theus is an absolute number, not a relative one: it is the total number, strength, and quality of the social connections between a group of white-positive white people. One thousand such connections are still one thousand strong regardless of context. One million still one million strong.
Anonymous (ID: nms4zZ9C) United States No.520204819 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
You have a point here, it's similar with demoralization, i think i hit absolute rock bottom in 2019 or 2020, and then just carried on purely on spite. The funny thing is that if i look at things from a purely objective standpoint, i am in much much better financial/physical/etc... shape than i was back then, but on the other hand; i have no fucking plans to have kids and sincerely believe the west has fallen. Im not like depressed 24/7, im hitting the bar or range with my mates every week, i travel a couple times a year, but i have no hope or aspirations, imma keep on keeping on, enjoy some bread and circuses while i await the inevitable.
Anonymous (ID: fFs03r/E) United States No.520205052 [Report]
Anonymous (ID: jOag9JXE) France No.520205183 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
opposite of truth
no society, people or civilization survives without belief in the unknowable
cue yuri
Anonymous (ID: v2dXG9J3) No.520205561 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
I think you're wrong and it's in your post. "once people see that these systems were built by humans, the spell is broken". everything is going to be human made and it's all going to be deconstructed by those that disagree with it.

you're not escaping it. and you're not building anything. oblivion awaits.
Anonymous (ID: ++iNb/Ot) United States No.520205930 [Report]
>>520202862
Think of a God as a person's ultimate role model. Having a bad role model and having no role model at all are both not successful paths. People without a role model will usually seek one. A healthy civilization requires it to have a good civilizational role model to provide healthy guidance, especially to the young
Anonymous (ID: gfsrIIKn) United Kingdom No.520208216 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
>But the only real way forward is to stop looking for another illusion to replace the old ones.
>people need to face reality as it is—without running from it, without clinging to comforting lies

OK. I can agree to this.
>pic related
So.. what is the reality?
What is it that we need to accept?
Anonymous (ID: n17XxXWG) United States No.520208820 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
The real illusion is your own illusory superiority. You are oversocialized and have a massively overinflated sense of how smart you are. You (wrongly) think you are part of a good in-group comprising all of the other intelligent, smart, educated, sophisticated, cosmopolitan, astute, discerning, good people who know the truth and have figured everything out.
And you also (wrongly) assume that anyone who doesn't agree with you must be part of a bad out-group comprising all of the dumb, naive, gullible, uneducated, unsophisticated,
>This is why today’s world feels so empty and chaotic.
No, OP, it just feels like that to (You) and your fellow midwit degenerate discord tranny memeflag faggot friends because you haven't actually figured everything out because you aren't actually one of the smart people.
Anonymous (ID: P4BpJ3DD) United States No.520209186 [Report]
>>520197830 (OP)
I could traditional values your whore ass back into slavery and you would suck my cock in gratitude.
Fucking jews.
Anonymous (ID: SIc8qGJM) United States No.520209271 [Report]
Christianity can be mined for meaning. OP has good points, but... I was an atheist who became open to Christianity when I abandoned liberalism. But I found things that seemed wrong with Christianity and Republicans too. With Christianity it seems like they should not have included the Old Testament and they should not have let Paul design their religion simply because he was one of the only smart literate guys those early Christians knew. But Jesus, seen as a philosopher with potential supernatural origins can work. Let just the Sermon on the Mount be the entire religious text. Pastors ignore it, but Mathhew 6:19 through the end of the chapter has a solid slacker ethos which works in the era of exclusion of white men from rewarding work and the coming of AI to eliminate much work anyway. The turn the other cheek and accept foreigners parts are lame, but could be reframed as recommended traits for the individual, not for an entire society that is at war. Jesus also said render unto Caesar... and to carry equipment for Roman soldiers if they order you to.

Anyway you could squeeze something more appealing to young men out of old Christianity. See Tolstoy's The Gospel In Brief for more on that. Then you'd have a situation where, since they would like Jesus, they could still get along with old fashioned Christians. And they could tolerate Pagans or whatever since the Sermon on the mount is more about what the individual thinks within, not about the conversion of others, beyond just setting a good example.