Thread 520236306

Getting rid of the filibuster would be an extremely bad idea. There's a reason Republicans haven't done it yet.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

We all saw Mr. Smith Goes To Washington. But times have changed a lot.

>>520236564
Okay but that just means the other side can pass legislation infinitely easier the next time they get back.

trump will be gone in 2029 and when Obama wins again in 2028 shit going to be wild

>>520236306 (OP)
If they did they'd have to be sure they have all the votes to codify the filibuster as law vs a rule/policy, like it is currently, immediately after ramming though everything,

delete the federal reserve, it's a vulcan death grip for the fuckery

>>520236306 (OP)
>>520236564
I'm reading the words of two Retard's

>>520236831
>they get back
Not gonna happen, USAID ran out, no more free money for their PACs and NGOs. DNC is $50 billion in the hole. Voting Rights Act going away means Republicans get 15+ seats in the house, forever.

It's OVER lol.

>>520236847
>shit going to be wild
Why? Will Obama start drone striking American muslims for Israel again but in America this time?

>>520236831
>WHAT IF THE SIDES WERE REVERSED
democrats have gone full fucking psycho. Next time they control all branches they'll be the one who get rid of the filibuster rule so we can spend trillions fighting climate and giving to Israel

>>520237088
>democrats have gone full fucking psycho.

Please do. And when the dems win in the midterms from this failed economy, impeachment will only require simple majority.

>>520236306 (OP)
Did the democrats force him to bail out Arjewtina to the tune of 40 billion dollars

>>520236831
They will do it anyways

>>520237606
No because they wouldn't have had the filibuster abolished. Both sides largely agree that getting rid of it would be a bad idea.
>>520237088
You're a delusional retard
>>520236979
You're not American, fuck off.
>>520236885
That's not how that works.

>>520236306 (OP)
>>520236831
why is it a bad idea?
if you have a majority you rule and make laws
thats how is in any other country
this nonsense that you ned to get the opposition to agree with you is outright idiotic, of course they dont

>>520237284
Constitution requires 2/3 senate for conviction

>>520236306 (OP)
DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY AND HAVE THE MARINES ROUND UP ALL THE DEMOCRATS ALREADY YOU GIANT ORANGE PUSSY

>>520237284
>when the dems win in the midterms from this failed economy
the one that they created? and then pitifully tried to damage control for 4 years?

>>520236306 (OP)
The filibuster is part of why things have gotten so bad in the first place.

>>520236831
>the next time they get back
I dont think you grasp the game being played right now

>>520236306 (OP)
The thing is, why are democrats waiting for the GOP to get rid of the filibuster, when they could have done so years ago to ram Obama and Biden shit through.

>>520236831
>the next time they get back.
Kek. Why choose to fear monger with such a ridiculous notion?

>>520237714
Well you see the reason people value bipartisanship is because it makes it easier for legislation to get passed and stay passed

>>520237714
both parties have a gentleman's agreement not to get rid of the filibuster so that either party has leverage when it's not the majority
ironically, the only thing they agree on.

>>520236306 (OP)
trump doesnt care about the filibuster, because he wont be alive long enough to see the consequences of removing it.

>>520236831
>the next time they get back.

>>520238086
Damn. Almost sounds like our democracy is fake and gay.

>>520237879
Delusional
>>520237791
Can't wait till it's done back to you.
>>520237964
I get it. It's a fascist takeover by the far right. I understand the game being played. Unlike other retards I knew this shit was coming down the pike after Trump said that the election was stolen in 2020. I will literally vote for any other Republican or Democrat besides him and his cronies. However he is still bound by some of the balances in our system despite how much it makes you cry.
>>520237995
Because again getting rid of the filibuster requires a pretty big political consequence that no one wants to swallow. Especially not the Senate. It's like they're only significant power.
>>520238008
You retards act like 2004 didn't happen or 2020 didn't happen. After 9/11 Islamic attack we elected a black president named Barack Hussein Obama. After a pandemic and spiraling economic catastrophe we elected Biden. The pendulum will swing back. You retarded getting high off your own supply.

>>520237995
Because the democrats did the simple majority vote for supreme court nominees and now they lost their activist court because of it. They learned a lesson

>>520237698
It's absolutely how it could work, the filibuster is currently just a "rule" and it could be codified.

The nuclear option allows the Senate to override a standing rule by a simple majority. They use that to change remove the filibuster rule all together. Now that there is no filibuster there is only a simple majority required to change rules or pass laws. They do what needs to be done here. Then when they are done they codify the filibuster in law vs as a Senate rule, this will only need a simple majority vote because they've already used the nuclear option to get rid of the filibuster in the first place. This issue is which of the RINOs would fuck them over during this process. There's the optics about being a fucking HUGE power grab though.

>>520238221
isn't that strange? they can only agree on staying the course and staying in power

>>520238159
Keep smiling nigger we'll see you in 2026.
>>520238239
That’s not how any of this works, and pretending it is just screams you don’t understand basic Senate procedure. The filibuster isn’t some toggle switch you can flip off, pass a few bills, then “codify” back into existence like nothing happened. The nuclear option changes precedent, not the actual rules, and you’d still need the same votes and political backing to make anything permanent. You’re basically describing a cartoon version of Congress where majority rule is magic and constitutional limits don’t exist. It’s the kind of take that sounds bold until someone who’s actually read the rules points out how ridiculous it is.

>>520236306 (OP)
We can abolish the DNC while we’re at it

They should’ve gone the way of the Whigs 60 years ago

>>520236306 (OP)
That is the thing about American law. Precedent matters. Once something is done, it can be done again and again because it has been done before. Republicans change something, then when Democrats get back into power they use that change to their advantage and vice versa.

>>520238235
Actually it was just federal judges not scotus my bad

>>520238329
Continue to be wrong, I don't care. They can literally pass any bill with a simple majority if they choose to.

>>520236306 (OP)
No one opposes God King Trump unless they're comfortable being ostracized and stricken from The Party's graces. If Trump says filibuster needs to go then he has every Republican congressman save for about 1-3 behind him.

>>520236831
>the next time they get back.
Lol
Lmao
How'd you even find this place, boomer?

>>520238674
Ok fag. You can literally just look this shit up.
>>520238872
I've been here longer than you've been alive tourist

>>520238403
It's why Trump will now arrest Obama.

my nigga trump is freaking the fuck out
the chimpout is coming

>>520236306 (OP)
This is now the full Trump agenda can be passed, they can pass voter ID, etc. Democrats will never have power again after that so there's no need to worry

>>520236831
That's why it's key to pass things so radical that they can never get back in power. Voter ID plus mass deportations means the Democrats won't be coming back into power

>>520239218
Funny you should mention that. Back during Biden's presidency, I think it was Congress said the presidential immunity does not carry over after their tenure. That is their reasoning why they could arrest Trump.At the moment The House is trying to use the autopen fiasco to nullify all those pardons Biden signed, including Obama.

>>520239782
If you're retarded enough to believe that you're retarded enough to believe anything. The Democratic voting base is not un ID'd immigrants

>>520237971
>post glownigger
>ruin thread
kys

>>520239817
Did Biden not pardon enough Israeli spies and nigger rappers or something? I could see how that would upset Zion Don

>>520239855
You're going to be deported or jailed you piece of shit no wonder you're terrified

>>520238232
>The pendulum will swing back.
Then why are you so scared? There are only 2 possible reasons

Either you know it won't
or it's inevitable and you want us to use the time less effectively.

>>520236306 (OP)
Imagine how bad he smells

>>520236306 (OP)
nah, things should get opened. lets really let democracy run wild. when you win, you win.

>>520240045
>Why are you so scared of unhinged ideological overreach
Because whether or not I agree with the administration, this kind of volatility is not sustainable for a country that has a diversity of thought. Liberals socialists communists Nazis libertarians etc all live in this country and we have to have policies that overlap in what we value the most which is life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
>>520239933
I'm more American than you.


You faggots love to larp like revolutionaries but you're not prepared for the kind of shit storm that brings. Charlie Kirk is a perfect example of that.

>>520240235
>this kind of volatility is not sustainable for a country that has a diversity of thought
Good. That's why we're amping up the extremism. Thanks for your honesty. It has been enlightening.

>>520236979
lol ok buddy dems are dominating all governor races right now.

>>520236979
>>520237964
>>520238008
>>520238159
>>520238872
two more weeks

>>520239782
based
>>520240235
you have to go back

>>520236306 (OP)
Trump is wrong, Obama agrees with Trump "filibuster is racist"

Both wrong

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/us/politics/john-lewis-funeral-barack-obama.html

>>520237165
That is like your average trad cath right there

>>520236306 (OP)
No, it's insane for the minority party to hold the whole country hostage just because they are butthurt, regardless of which part is in power. Axe this bullshit now.