Thread 520281329

SNAP stays.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/10/31/us/trump-news

>>520281329 (OP)
I don't understand how a judge can order money to be spent that isn't earmarked.
The power of the purse belongs to Congress

>>520281431
Tone it down with the antisemitism, bucko.

>>520281329 (OP)
>John J. McConnell Jr.
appointed by Obama
>Indira Talwani
appointed by Obama

kek, this is going to the supreme court and niggers will still miss they EBT cards

>>520281431
congress already had an emergency fund approved for SNAP, Trump was explicitly blocking it from being used

>>520281431
They are all King Nigger Obama judges and this will go to the supreme court somehow.

>>520281431
This is Trump preventing Congress from enacting their financial power

>>520281431
There's not even enough money in the emergency fund snap

>>520281329 (OP)
The order states to pay SNAP "as soon as possible." There is no way to pay at this time. Until a budget is approved there is no way to pay it.

>>520281817
The emergency fund blud

>>520281760
Still needs to be used

>>520281431
>I don't understand
Neither does the judge, lol

>>520281431
>3 "co-equal" branches of government
>2 of the 3 demand SNAP funding
>King Trump demands his people starve to so he can use their pain and suffering as leverage to maximize his political powers
>anons kvetch about how everyone is so unfair and mean to Trump

what is this world I'm living in?
What kind of hell is this place?
why do you people exist?

>>520281865
It won't even last a week. It's not for sanp goes dry, it's to assist in certain areas when needed.

>>520281431
Shhh let them prove they are an unelected 5th column so Trump can throw all these jewish traitors in gitmo

>>520281329 (OP)
Who ordered?
Wanted niggers to riot, damn it!
Who ruined it?

>>520281329 (OP)
America loves....

>>520281588
That's not true at all. Those emergency funds exist but they are earmarked for emergencies such as hurricanes.

>>520281865
The USDA stated it couldn't use the funds, and that the money's for supplemental purposes when funding specifically falls short. Obviously there's a lot you can disagree with here from a legal perspective, but I can absolutely guarantee you that this will not end with them using the few billion they have. They're going to say they don't have the legal jurisdiction to release the funds until a suitable appropriation has first been set for the fiscal year.

>>520281329 (OP)
not paying poor is probably most retarded thing gov't can ever attempt. poor are the ones that storm the castles and cut heads off royalties when they are hungry. I am pretty sure all of the gov't officials can go years without pay and still be okay

>>520282068
Is that what he's going to do to his friends, benefactors, mentors, in-laws, and compatriots?

>>520281329 (OP)
I told you fags nothing would happen

>>520281431
Its daddy's money boo. He's impounded all congressional approved funding. Maga! Awoo

>>520281760
They can still divvy out partial payments.

>>520282288
Yeah this ruling really doesn't make sense. So a judge gets to usurp executive power and declare an emergency? What's next, a judge ordering national guard deployments or troop deployments overseas???

>>520282147
It doesn't specify what kinds of emergencies. These judicial rulings clarify that "the government running out of money" is an emergency, and so the money must be spent

>>520281329 (OP)
China has labor camps
no one starves because everyones still works and contributes to society

but oh right starving nigger riots are way better

>>520281329 (OP)
BWAHAHAHAAHAHA! Niggers get everything free, except the rope, which is the only thing they deserve.

Now the shutdown can go on another month. Maga Mike must be thrilled. No Epstein vote any time soon.

>>520282481
The role of the judiciary is to determine the interpretation of all laws. This would include what is an emergency if it isn't defined by the statute.

>>520281329 (OP)
Wrong again foreign retard.

>Obama and Co™ say "let's use judges to get our way, the president will obey these low-tier nobodies without authority
>USDA says "NOPE.lol"

>>520282041
The narrative shifts continuously too.

>Government shutdowns happen all the time. It'll be back before you know it
>Snap will get passed even if there is a shutdown, don't worry
>Only niggers and illegal aliens use snap, who cares?
>Only poor people with zero worth to society use snap, who cares?
>Okay it's bad, but that's only because the Dems won't pass the bill

Reminder than the Republicans shut down the government because they don't want to release the Epstein list.

>>520281329 (OP)
Whew, I thought niggers were gonna SNAP
I'm glad they came to a mature decision ebt this

>GOP past
>we are the party of law and order

>GOP today
>we are the party of ignoring laws, judges, and we thrive off chaos, confusion, and disorder

Admit it, you guys may have won the house, senate, whitehouse, and have control of the supreme court, but you've lost your own party in the process. That's why they're so eager to force you to starve to turn you into martyrs for their political cause.

aren't you tired of winning yet?

>>520283221
>you guys
I, for one, welcome the acceleration.

>>520282649
God Lord Jesus Christ comes again to save humanity from the evil rich. Godsent Jesus Christ is King and every wealthy will be in the deepest parts of hell. It is easier for a (atomic scaled) camel to enter the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.

>>520281329 (OP)
Mmmm ebt TACOs

>>520283118
How can you lie so brazenly and not feel ashamed? The shutdown is over healthcare, democrats want to continue funding for a health insurance tax credit that expired this year and republicans don’t want to. The republicans have proposed a dozen different spending bills to end the shutdown and democrats have turned all of them down.

>>520283118
Why didnt Democrats release the Epstein list?

>>520282041
Legislative and executive are both against it. What are you on about?

>>520281329 (OP)
>Ordered
by who
>Some literally who jud-
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH YEAH OKAY

>>520281329 (OP)
The best part is even if the government has to pay for SNAP with those emergency funds, it'll still take 1-2 weeks for the money to actually go out.

The chimpouts will still proceed according to schedule.

>>520281329 (OP)
if you can pay israel than you can pay snap. its that simple

>>520281431
HE DOESNT KNOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>520281431
A woman in a robe is speaking listen and learn

>>520282599
the president is the only one who gets to delcare emergencies.
you guys really fucked up bigly with the coof hoax

It's crazy how judges just say whatever the fuck they want. They don't even try to hide it behind the law anymore they just make shit up and say you can't do that

>>520281329 (OP)
Start pulling funds from all democrat funded endeavors to pay for SNAP.

They want to pay for illegals, then they can pay out of their own fucking pockets.

>>520281329 (OP)
They didn't like the noticing that 60% of people on it aren't even American. They needed to shut it down and memory hole it quickly

>>520281329 (OP)
>government ordered to pay
BY FUCKING WHO??!?!!?!?

>>520284494
A hole in a robe, the strongest authority in the land

>>520281431
Kys kike. You ratfaced greedy antiWhite parasite.

>>520281549
Of course you would say that you worthless sniveling kike rat. You want to see White people suffer, we get it.

>>520283118
This. Anyone saying anything else is a kike. Trump is the epitome of ZOG.

>>520283118
>The narrative shifts continuously too.
it's all too predictable

>>520281329 (OP)
Fuck they better not get paid tomorrow

>>520281329 (OP)
What about this one?

>>520281329 (OP)
SCOTUS ruled he doesn't have to listen to this until review.

Democrats:
>UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE NEED THEIR GIBS
"what about federal workers who have to still work due to being essential and unable to get another job but not getting paid?"
>FUCK THOSE PRIVILEGED SLAVES, THEY LIVE TO SERVE AS MY LEVERAGE

How the fuck are the democrats so absolutely dog shit at this that they've managed to make Republicans the" good guys" k e k

>>520281635
It already is. The ability for judges to issue nationwide sanctions is paused until the Supreme Court can review if they should have that ability at all. They're just still issuing the decrees partly for posturing, partly to save face for those who don't know better, and partly because they hope they can be back-enforced if the Supreme Court sides with them.

These are all unenforceable and truly shouldn't even be done until a determination from the Supreme Court can be issued.

>>520284595
>the strongest authority in the land
the back of my pimp hand is the only true authority.

>>520283118
>>520284863
Trump doesnt even have to do anything to make libshills seethe anymore, they're just in a constant state of agitated delusion. Thanks for making politics entertaining again retards.
>got what I voted for award

>>520283580
Cause they are on the list as well.

>>520286558
take your meds paco

>>520287210
Both Clinton and Zion Don are on the list anon.

>>520281679
You have no understanding on how our government functions you fuckwit.

>>520281329 (OP)
Trump lost.
MIGA lost.
Wagies lost.

>>520281329 (OP)
USA is a commie country they just don't call it that.

>>520287270
there is no "list" of elite pedos containing incriminating evidence against them. If there ever was, it was certainly not just left in government records waiting for someone to come along and release it. take your meds.

>>520287521
There was a list, Epstein was a MOSSAD op and that was the way he blackmailed them. They probably destroyed the list when the feds killed Epstein though.

>>520283776
But here's the best part, they won't. No decision will be enforced until it's reviewed and the higher courts are siding with Trump anyways.
This is all just "gotcha" bullshit for leftist to salivate over and make them think they won something.

>>520281431
they can't. they're going to be shut down by higher court within next week

>>520281329 (OP)
I don't want poor white trash to live off my money.

I want Jews, Argentinians, Ukrainians, industrial farmers, bankers, car companies, airline companies, and Jews to live off of my money.

America First!

Donny will pay up like a good little cuck

>>520287638
>They probably destroyed the list when the feds killed Epstein though.
Thank you for admitting that all the "release the list" spamming is pointless, that was my only contention.

>>520283118
this shutdown is good. this country is adding 2 trillion to the debt per year. we don't have money to feed 100 million niggers and spics

>>520281329 (OP)
Imagine thinking that amerimutts would ever let their holy nigger pets starve.

With what money?
The legislatures haven't passed a funding bill.

>>520282599
But the text of that bill explicitly gives the definition of emergency to the executive branch

>>520287809
Oy vey, it’s annudah shoah!

>>520281582
>>520281635
>even someone being tangentially related to Obama, triggers the maga hats
Beyond mindbroken.

>>520287981
They want Trump to use the disaster relief fund that FEMA has. But they can't make him do that because ONLY FEMA(and the president) can release those funds. A court cannot declare a state of emergency.

>>520287838
SNAP only costs $100 billion a year and prevents widespread desperate crime and vagrancy

>>520284305
illegals are not eligible for SNAP

>>520281329 (OP)
I read an article that said there is like 5billion in the emergency fund.

32million snappers.

Like $165 each?

I hate the poors. The government makes them that way, and gives them free stuff. It keeps the "middle class," poor.

>"You make too much money for gibs, but not enough money to live remotely comfortably."

>>520282041
trump isn't the senate does anybody who posts this kind of shit have any idea how government even works?

>>520283118
>leaf

>>520281588
For emergencies. The President nor Congress has declared a national emergency. Democrats throwing a temper tantrum isn't a national emergency.

>>520288267
>only costs $100 billion a year
for $100 billion you could shoot every non white in the world, crime would drop to 0 globally. one time payment.

>>520288283
That's what the anchor babies are for

LMAOOOOOOO of course he makes sure the niggers and spics and single moms get theirs. Not ONE SINGLE CRUMB for the white man from this most Jewish of all regimes. I hate him with a perfect hatred

>>520288267
Except it doesn't. 13 still do 50.

>>520287270
Obama, Biden, and Kamala forgot to mention this I guess.

>>520282041
I hate you

>>520288645
you don't even know what this thread is about you dumb zoomer

nothing ever happens confirmed once again.

>>52028277
the American constitution is without a doubt the most retarded system of government anyone could ever come up with. I don’t think you could make it dumber if you tried

>>520283118
>>520283221
I hate you

>>520288267
I hate you

>>520281431
They can't. This is a straight separation of powers issue and the first competent judge who gets the appeal will shut it down.

It's astonishing that all major assaults on the Constitution are currently coming from the courts themselves. If that's not an emergency situation that requires emergency remedies, I don't know what is.

>>520287270
Every single major world leader/politician is on the list including Trump Biden Kamala Clintons etc:
That’s why it will never be released
Everyone is on it
This rabbit hole will never come out

>>520288600
>>520288688
>there are no white people who commit crimes
>there are no white people on SNAP

>>520288886
>>520288851
>>520288725
mental midget

>>520288695
That was already a given, I'd say most politicians over 40 are on the list. Same goes for Vance, the Bushes, etc.

>>520288944
Even Netanayhu and all european leaders even fucking putin and xi jinping
EVERYONE

>>520281588
>congress already had an emergency fund approved
>an emergency
This isn't an emergency.

>>520288944
Exactly. And if it does come out the media will push the narrative that they were all victims who got duped by Epstein and everyone should just forget and forgive them.

>>520282289
They aren't poor you retarded nigger. They are the welfare class, you should keep your retarded mouth shut when you don't understand American politics.

>>520288157
Don't project your TDS on others
Everything tangentially related to Trump makes you retards chimp out like niggers
It's very gay and very obvious

>>520288921
>Congress already made a special SNAP fund for "emergencies"
>A judge decided that this shutdown counts as an "emergency" so it has to be used

Separation of powers was broken where, exactly?
Also, why does this even make you mad, this fund getting used?

>>520284812
The joke
Your head

>>520281588
Thanks for the proof.

>>520289119
Yup.
It’s pointless to even ask for them at this point

>smaller government
>tax me harder daddy

>>520289169
>why does this even make you mad, this fund getting used?
Theres enough in the emergency fund for ut to last another two more weeks. After that we won't have enough. The emergency fund can't even bankroll snap for a month.

Why? Because it was meant for localized emergencies not to bankroll the entire program.

>>520281329 (OP)
everyone gets what they wanted I guess. Trump can pretend like they are forcing his hand, dems can pretend like they didn't want it all along to make Repubs look bad, poors continue to get their free food, megacorps continue to get their worker subsidies and taxpayers keep getting it in the ass

>>520281329 (OP)
And where does the money come from?

>>520281329 (OP)
Won't happen. Legislative branch controls the purse. If the judge can command this, then he can command the senate democrats to vote on the cr budget. Activist judges need to be impeached to send the message.

>>520289377
>two more weeks
a fortnight you say? witnessed

>>520289391
>poors continue to get their free food
For a week or two then the emergency funds dry up and then theres no more funds even if there is an emergency.

>>520282313
Considering what they did to him during the Biden years, it's a possibility.
>>520282599
They didn't run out of money, they just haven't approved the budget yet because they're shut down. Also, other Anon is right only the President can declare an emergency not unelected jews. It also doesn't say which emergencies its to be used for, that's for the president to decide. He CAN use it for an emergency, but he doesn't HAVE to.

>>520281329 (OP)
TACOed and NEHpilled

>>520289515
>For a week or two then the emergency funds dry up and then theres no more funds even if there is an emergency.
well I'm sure they will use it efficiently and wisely with that in mind and stock up on non-perishable, nutritious essentials, right?

Trump's not going to do thei either because he has no obligation or reason to do it. When SNAP stops tomorrow, all it's going to do is make the country go from 60-155mph on the nigger fatigue speedometer.

>>520289391
That doesn't solve the situation, though.
The democrats want to break trump by forcing him to reverse the bbb's healthcare cuts, thereby destroying the funding for his tax cuts.
Trump absolutely refuses to allow that, because it's the only thing he's been able to implement in his nearly five years in office.

>>520289696
I hope we get segregation again or better yet we will deport all niggers back to africa

>>520289515
This is an emergency, the judge is right. Just a retarded artificial emergency. The fund is there to ensure that SNAP does not get interrupted. Whether that interruption is caused by a real catastrophe or this pure retardation with the shutdown, it shouldn't matter, the reason it exists is the same.

>>520283118
You're responding to one of you saying that or narrative changed when it's been the same ever since it started.
> This is to prevent Epstein files from releasing
> It's Dems fault because they know they're guilty and Trump isn't
> Dems force shit down by demanding something unreasonable hoping to deflect blame to Trump
> Trump witholds SNAP, passing blame back to Dems
> Dems seethe and try to use this BS in a failed attempt to shift blame back to Trump.

They're mad because they want the government to stay shut down and in their panic didn't realize the opportunities it presented Trump or that he could use it against them. If he witholds SNAP not only will people be mad at the Dems, it will poison their opinion about immigrants, too, while redpilling White people about how much money is stolen from them to support minorities and how big of a drain they actually are priming tbe stage for the Dems to have zero goodwill when they're eventually forced to re-open the government and the Epstein files are released showing what they did and resulting in universal calls for their imprisonment from a populace that hates them.

The only way things could get better is if he just says screw it and releases them all while they're still shit down because then the Dems will rush back to try to re-open the government not only revealing their guilt but opening the door for Republicans to refuse to do so while they screech.

>>520283221
> Control the law and order
> Somehow no longer law and order
It's perfect law and order you're just used to being able to break the law with impunity using the justification that it's morally correct to do so, so now that law and order is being reestablished you feel oppressed.

Anyone know how much is in the contingency fund?

>>520290137
Found it
>The roughly $5.25 billion fund is not enough to fully cover November benefits for the food assistance program, which will cost the government upward of $9 billion.

>>520289804
This

>>520289755
>That doesn't solve the situation, though.
if they find some way to keep SNAP going while the impasse remains I think it does.
>>520290137
>Anyone know how much is in the contingency fund?
apparently two weeks worth from others on here

>>520288267
If rather spend $100 billion a year stopping crime and vagrancy.

For $5 billion we could literally deport every foreign invader in the country in one year using a combination of ground, air, and water transport a la the 1947 Partition of India, then use $10 billion to not only imprison of the rioting criminals, but ship them to prison colonies in South America as well, leaving us with an extra $80 billion, nearly ending inflation, and dropping the crime rate to almost zero. We could then use $1 billion to reinstitute SNAP for the remaining law abiding citizens who barely use it anyways and still have $79 billion left over.

>>520289958
WTF am I reading?

>>520288283
And yet they get it because Democrats/jews think it doesn't count of there called NoNameGiven and SocialSecurityNumberNotProvided

I bet they give them social security, too

>>520290292
>we're spending $2.75 billion a week to feed people slop

>>520288921
Isn't something how Democrats think judges can do stuff because of "checks and balances" but apparently don't think there are any checks and balances on what judges can do?

>>520288944
Trump can pardon himself if he was real guilty and it can't be overturned because Biden set the precedent.

>>520288267
>SNAP only costs $100 billion a year and prevents widespread desperate crime and vagrancy
SNAP is first and foremost a corporate handout. Most of the recipients are the working poor, it allows megacorps to pay less since the government is picking up costs for these people. Also it is spent on massive agribusiness products at retail conglomerate stores, it's a direct demand booster.

>>520281329 (OP)
Based!

>>520289804
You say it's an emergency, the judge says it's an emergency, but unfortunately only the President has the legal authority to declare an emergency. That's what checks and balances mean.

>>520290481
You know it's true when jews resort directly to ad hominem

>>520288283
>illegals are not eligible for SNAP
not directly but they benefit from it by living in mixed households. Only takes one US citizen to get gibs and the amount is based on total household members. Illegals get a ton of free shit. Then there are the quasi illegals like Biden's phony refugees who most definitely directly get it.

>>520289804
niggers are the emergency. and they are going to prove that. <:^)

>>520290444
>If rather spend $100 billion a year stopping crime and vagrancy.
You won't get that for that price.
Tyranny is significantly more expensive than welfare
But if the jews continue to feel so threatened, you'll probably have to pay for a tyranny anyway.

>>520281431
they cant. hes kvetching

>>520289804
Judges do not get to decide what is and is not an emergency under the law. The judges that are ruling here are trying to prevent their pets from tearing cities apart at the seams. Food stamps have become bribery to keep trash humans from revolting. It's like a protection racket at this point. Sick fuck shit really. But leftists bred these little goblin monsters and now they're about to deal with the consequences of their actions. It's been a long time coming for this. The walls are closing in on them. They tried for so long to implement their commie utopia bullshit and it's been unraveled. That's what happens when you do retarded shit, your shit breaks and you LOSE.

Nothing makes people that work go further right than seeing fat entitled people cry about not getting the taxpayer-funded slopfeed.

So will I be able to eat for the holidays now? Is this real chat?

>>520290705
Yes but that doesn’t mean the list will ever release because all of his friends are on it and there would be a revolution and or a mass purge of all those involved

>>520291099
>hes kvetching
How dare you?
He single-handedly made america gay by "abolishing" smoking.

>>520291319
You would see all governments going into civil war and possibly WW3 over it

>>520291319
Above all, the glowniggers must be protected.
Massie asked today where epstein's 1 billion in cash disappeared to after his death, and why no one has ever asked this question before.

>>520281329 (OP)
Well yeah, there's emergency funding that's specifically allocated for SNAP to be used during a lapse in payments while the government is shutdown. They're obligated to spend that money who's specific function is for this very moment. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a malicious retard or shill.

>>520281431
He can't

>>520291861
>there's emergency funding that's specifically allocated for SNAP
That's simply not true.
It's about a fund that was generally set up for any emergency situation.
But it only contains 5 billion, which only gives them another 14 days.
>another 14 days
kek

>>520281329 (OP)
it's off?

>>520289169
>>A judge decided that this shutdown counts as an "emergency" so it has to be used
Likely not going to fly, since previous gov. shutdowns ('95, '13, '18) weren't emergencies either.
Since the point of declaring something an emergency is to grant extraordinary powers, the savious complex in a robe is grabbing more power than she can possibly justify given the precedent.

>>520292077
Given the current situation I'd say it's warranted to use the funding for SNAP then. Even if it just covers another fortnight the government DOES have a responsibly to the people. I seriously do not understand of the mindset of some of the people here who think the government purposely making it's own citizens suffer like this is in anyway a good thing. Especially if you voted on Trump because you really believe him to be best for the country and by extension, it's people. It either shows a disturbing cognitive dissonance or a terrible endorsement on this behaviour.

>>520281329 (OP)
Thank god. I only have enough steak and lobster tails to last until Sunday. Now I can stock up for tomorrow.

>>520292300
It pulls the bandaid off of this problem. 40M people should not be on foodstamps. This shit has been getting gamed by women since I was a kid in the 90s. They pop out a bunch of kids and claim them for food and government bennies and don't work and don't pay taxes. This massive scam that takes from people that work needs to stop, and the best way to make people aware of this problem is to rip off the bandage and let people see the rotten infected wound underneath.

>>520288283
>illegals are not eligible for SNAP
illegal immigrants and noncitizens who abused the amnesty laws during the Biden admin... we are talking about the same thing and yes, the noncitizens are eligible for SNAP

>>520292300
I don't think either side wants to see the country burn down right now.
As I wrote before, the democrats want to take away trump's funding for his tax cuts, and trump doesn't want to allow that.
It's a case of who blinks first.

>>520292616
It's not really addressing the problem of SNAP though? As far as I'm aware the BBB doesn't actually addressing the funding of the program, just the requirements to get on it which you have to be working certain hours to recieve it and since most people already do work to get SNAP it doesn't change anything. The loss of funding is a consequence of the BBB not being passed.

>>520292701
It's definitely a high stakes game of chicken here and it's a shit situation for anyone who earns less than 60k a year. For them it's either no food or no health insurance.

>>520281329 (OP)
>United States Food Stamp Usage
>41.9 million people used SNAP benefits in April 2023.
>This is 12.5% of the entire US population.
>The program covers all 50 states, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands, with a separate program for Puerto Rico and other territories.

>Belgium Food Aid Usage
>Over 600,000 people in Belgium depended on regular food aid in 2025.
>This figure includes those getting assistance through government and charity programs.
>Belgium’s population is around 11.7 million, so about 5% of the population relies on food aid.

wait I thought americans earned a ton more than yuro countries thanks to less taxes, why do so many of you rely on food stamps?

>>520281431
its a political ploy to blame the right for a shutdown the left caused

>>520292965
>why do so many of you rely on food stamps?
They don't need it, that's the point. It's just piss-easy to scam the EBT system so lots of people do it.

>>520288426
>I read an article that said there is like 5billion in the emergency fund.
>32million snappers.
>Like $165 each?
The fund can only sustain SNAP for 2–3 weeks at normal spending levels.

>>520292965
Rely is the wrong word to describe people who don't need it but find a way to become eligible. At that point it's free money.

Also, they give SNAP to the people who mass immigrated and falsely claimed asylum. Those people are technically not illegal immigrants and just noncitizens. There are over 20,000,000 of them.

>>520293204
People need it more in your country than in europe because your social welfare systems are quite weak.
In europe, food programs aren't really necessary since everyone receives enough social assistance to feed themselves.
But the welfare mafia runs them anyway, for obvious reasons.

>>520281329 (OP)
or what?

>>520293561
SNAP is social welfare.

>>520293482
>Rely is the wrong word to describe people who don't need it but find a way to become eligible. At that point it's free money
how widespread is that ? any official numbers / studies I can check ? there are always people who scam systems, here in belgium included, and also illegal immigrants, but there are also always politicians who will be quick to make exagerated claims

>>520293561
>In europe, food programs aren't really necessary since everyone receives enough social assistance to feed themselves.
How's that working out for the working class in Europe? OH! Yeah, just like us, they aren't having kids and the boomer welfare has to get paid but their too few young people so you get imported workers from parts of the world that get smoked by their populations.

Okay, let me get this straight.
>the government is retarded and decides to fund itself for a year or so
>time passes, they reach the point specified
>filibuster says they require 60 votes to pass new funding
>democrats just don't feel like it
>this somehow creates an emergency and the president is forced to use emergency powers to funnel emergency funding into paying for gibs
Explain to me why he can't just use emergency powers to arrest the people causing the emergency

>>520293738
>SNAP is social welfare.
I got that.
I just meant that a direct comparison isn't possible because social assistance in europe is paid out in cash.

>>520284186
they need to be removed, let them go to court to get their position back, and remove those judges too, judges who ignore the law are not immune to it.

>>520293873
Such welfare also exists in the US through SSI or TANF, there is also "General Relief" to cover up any other shortfalls of the other programs.

>>520293842
>Explain to me why he can't just use emergency powers to arrest the people causing the emergency
Because they can just choose to vote on ending the fillibuster and have everything to come down to a simple majority vote in the future. Although everyone (except Trump) seems to be aware that'd be a really bad fucking idea. This whole shitshow is only happening because he's so insistant on doing everything his way or the highway and forgot the other half of the equation entirely, negotiating.

>>520285396
Women and gays are in control. Never underestimate a woman's ability to fuck up everything, not accomplish a goal, then blame everyone else.

>>520293775
You burgers are quite fragile.
I wrote that without judgment.

>>520293770
found this picture, 12,2% foreign born, doesn't seem to be that bad

>>520294106
Aren't these programs limited to a total of 5 years of life, and presumably food isn't included in the payments because of snap?

>>520294211
You do realize that the republicans have tried to pass a clean CR for like 14 times at this point and the democrats voted against it because they would lose leverage. They are literally using the government and now social security systems like SNAP as leverage. If their only reason why they won't fund the fucking government is because it would weaken their position in further negotiations then they do it to ram through their political ambitions. Just fucking lock them up.

>government cuts off snap
>sister gets into horrible car accident now she can’t give me money
>going to starve for the next month
Thanks Miggers

>>520281329 (OP)
OP is a British retard who doesn't know district judges are often appealed because of how retarded they are

>>520288283
The standard mechanism for verifying legal status is answering "no" to "are you an eligible us resident" with zero verification.

Illegals get the majority of gibs.

>>520294428
How do you think politics works? It's always a horse-trading game.

>>520294251
no but 61.6% not employed in any month, is

>>520294372
SSI has no time limit
I may be mistaken but I don't think it matters what you spend the money on, SNAP is just one more additional program and I don't think it disqualifies any other form of welfare

>>520281431
>I don't understand how a judge can order money to be spent that isn't earmarked.
They can't. They're doing this so publicly the ball is now in Trumps hands
>We TRIED to help grant you poor people free gibs, but the evil orange man and his far-right supreme court said no :(
If there's ever a time to nip judicial power, it's now. They have zero fucking say about this but are interjecting anyway. It's so fucking blatant how corrupt and partisan it is.

>>520294428
You can lock them up but the fillibuster still exists. You literally wouldn't have enough votes to pass it through anyway and then you'd be giving your opponents free PR on top of things too. The democrats have already been pretty clear on what they want. They want to extend the tax credits for health insurance, if the GOP refuses to negotiate around that while knowing that they're on a slim majority then that's on them for failing to understand how their own senate works. I don't know what to tell you other than that's politics, it's always a game of give and take.

>>520294238
These social welfare programs are not sustainable, and never have been. Human beings didn't evolve and develop civilization in regards to systems like this.
At most, there were temporary releases of coin and grain in various kingdoms and empires, just to get over the hard times. They were never meant for continuous long-term use.

>>520294571
>no but 61.6% not employed in any month, is
what do you mean

>>520282289
The majority are neither poor, nor hungry. They're fat and very, very, very lazy.

>>520294838
They aren't seeking employment.

>>520283221
>aren't you tired of winning yet?
LMAO not even close. You still have over three years of this, fag. Keep seething.

>>520289108
but tariffing penguin island was?

>>520294571
>SSI is for people who are aged 65 or older, blind, or disabled
>TANF provides cash assistance to low-income families with children. There is a lifetime limit of 60 months (five years) for receiving benefits
This excludes a lot of poor people from the social welfare system.

>>520283221
>lost our party
You mean Bush-era cuckservatism? You're new here.

>>520294891
lots of people can't find a job it's not weird at all, for many reasons. Why would someone want to hire an old person at 60 when he can get two illegals for half the cost and who will work at 120%. Moderate unemployement levels are the ideal state of a capitalist society, that's a known fact

>>520294791
I don't think it's that simple.
As long as the state doesn't provide every citizen with enough land to lead a self-sufficient life, I believe it has a certain duty of care.

>>520289169
People having to provide for themselves for once in their lives is not an emergency anon. The reason the Dems are so desperate to find any way to get SNAP and EBT back is because even normies are starting to realize what a gigantic scam it has become, and black people won't stop getting on TikTok and announcing their scamming and criminal behavior to the world. This is absolutely devastating for the Dems.

>>520295057
40 million Americans are on food stamps. There's an obvious economic emergency in the homeland.

>>520295097
Correct, that is where "General Relief/Assistance" would make up that shortfall, but it varies from state to state.

>>520295160
Not going to deny that not everyone who seeks work will automatically be employed, there are lots of businesses that are failing to find enough staff right now though.

reminder: trump could have used the contingency funds "at his discretion" but chose to let people starve.

>>520294891
disabled people and elderly typically don't work

>>520289108
If the government not being able to feed 40 million people isn't a big deal, then I never want to hear you retards cry about how many people starved under Communism ever again.

>>520295284
And what happens when the money crashes, and collapse occurs? Because these things happen, very often relative to time.
2008 was only 17 years ago. Before that it was the 70s gas crunch, and before that the great depression.

>>520295487
Not everyone who uses SNAP is disabled or elderly. Only 11.5% are older than 65.

>>520295284
>I don't think it's that simple.
>As long as the state doesn't provide every citizen with enough land to lead a self-sufficient life, I believe it has a certain duty of care.
Holy shit where IS MY LAND WTF

>>520295424
They're not gonna starve. They didn't starve in the 1920s and they won't now. Nobody's starving in the US, not from this. They can loot the store, go to jail, and get three hots and a cot.

>>520295686
Pretty sure even in the feudal era we got plots of dirt to "farm", are we worse off than peasants of olden time?

>>520295607
don't forget people who are full time caregivers to elderly and disabied

>>520295736
my bad. they weren't going to starve, they were just going to suffer malnutrition and extreme hunger. which is totally fine.

>>520295607
I am disabled I have MS my spine is dissolving itself so quickly that I’ll be in a wheelchair in 3 years. Please just give me gibs. You retards gave niggers money for decades the absolute least you can do is take care of one White sick neet. It’s not too much to ask for. Why did you give niggers billions but try a second I get sick and need help you want me to starve to death? I paid into the system nigger I’m entitled to the benefits I paid for

>>520295799
And? The elderly qualify for multiple sources of welfare already and the household can exploit that while having a lower cost of living from sharing a household.
What point are you trying to make anon?

>>520295596
Even then, the state's duty of care doesn't end.
In its early days, america was known as a workers' paradise, giving every worker enough land to support themselves and their family, and requiring them to take up wage labor only for the sake of luxury.
This infuriates capitalists so much that they do everything they can to abolish this system and make workers dependent again.
But this dependency can't be one-sided; if they want dependent workers, then they must also take care of them, especially in difficult times.
At least that's how I see it.

>>520295904
You already qualify for SSI and even SSDI if you worked then you retarded double nigger.

>>520295924
The point: Not everyone who gets SNAP and isn't looking for work is lazy and doesn't want to work.

>>520296051
Ok? But there are a portion of those on SNAP who are.

>>520295904
That sucks anon, hopefully you'll get what you need, why starve in a land of plenty?
Plenty of resources at a moment notice for war, but it's pulling teeth to do anything wholesome for some.

>>520296109
why punish the majority who isn't at fault ? they're not the one misuing the funds or misattributing the funds

>>520281329 (OP)
>"...will cause irreparable harm.."
he isn't wrong. he just wants to morally pretend its because muh poors will starve. he knows niggers and beaners will have a real "good" excuse to commit mass violence like theyve been waiting to have for decades.
i was (again) foolishly hoping to see the fire rise but alas, nothing ever truly happens.

>>520296109
Just apply to 200 jobs this week, and get rejected 200 times and also not have money to eat, there is a lack of jobs/opportunities... If there were ample jobs then the able bodied arguments would hold water

>>520282773
The national emergencies act of 1976 is pretty clear that the responsibility to declare a national emergency is on the president, with the president providing specific reasons for and ennumerated powers raised to take care of said emergency, and with the ability for congress to override it.

>>520295793
>are we worse off than peasants of olden time?
Probably not. But definitely worse than the members of ancient germanic societies.
>I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. "Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal.
>t. Hitler

>>520296212
This isn't about punishing the poor, it's about our asshole politicians sitting in congress squabbling and not setting a budget. And like always, the poor suffer from the decisions of politicians.

>>520296109
Ok? But there are plenty of people, particularly children, elderly, and disabled, who rely on SNAP. Should we let grandma starve because jerome doesn't want to work?

>>520294791
Dude, even back in Rome as the city became too overcrowded, the elites started to offer dole to the plebs. It was a given amount of grain to sustain them.

Rome pretty much ended as one of the world's biggest cities when the Vandals conquered North Africa which was the basis of cereal production of Rome, meaning that the dole could not be offered to the plebs anymore and a mass abandonment of Rome occured.
Some people even say that feudalism started here as the plebs of Rome went to work the fields of the lords for food.

Also during the fall of the Roman Republic 500 years before some general whose name I cannot recall right now - I think it was Pompey but not the great, or was a family member of Pompey the great...
Anyway this general took over Scicily and North Africa, basically cutting the transfer of cereal from those areas to Rome and effectively making the Romans unable to feed their plebs.

My point is for a long time people in power have been offer "food stamps" to domesticate the plebs who can't feed themselves and to put them under these elite's total control.

>>520296026
I’m suing the government to give me benefits because apparently being crippled to the point where you hobble around on a cane are in constant pain with something they nickname suicide disease and too fatigued to do anything can’t see can’t move your legs or arms in any competent way can’t do any of the hobbies you loved means they can deny you the gibs that you paid your entire life for. I got a nice Jewish women lawyer tho I like her a lot she is even gonna drive me to a food bank while the case goes through. She is very sweet and not so bad for a jew. As it turns out you want someone like that in your corner when things are fucked

>>520295900
No, they'll get what they need. Someone will help the ones that don't make the dumbest mistake of their lives(looting/shoplifting) because that's how it works.
Most of them are fat as fuck and can survive on cabbage stew for a few months. They're narcissistic entitled gluttons, not victims. The victims are taxpayers that have been getting scammed to pay for Karen and Shaniqua to shit out babied for child support and EBT gibs. The EBT tribes need a hard awakening. They can go back to their boyfriends/husbands that work.

>>520295948
>This infuriates capitalists so much that they do everything they can to abolish this system and make workers dependent again.
That's because they can. EU does that too, which is why so much European industry has been relocated to Asia. It's not just an America problem, we're just so loud about shit that it makes the problem seem like it's only ours. Social media amplifies it.

>>520281329 (OP)
>lol, no!
>Sincerely, Donald J Trump
>P.S. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

>>520296271
Where are you trying to apply to, don't name every business, just general type of job.
Do you have priors on your record?
If you do, consider going into trades. Most places won't hire felons but blue collar jobs will not give a fuck. They literally just want people with a pulse and people who show up.

>>520296317
true

>>520296337
>>520296026
This is actually really common when it comes to SS benefits. To qualify for benefits, you have to prove that you cannot work a job. Being crippled doesn't mean you can't work a job.
Paralyzed from the waist down, but you can still move your fingers? You can work an office job.

>>520296319
read my post right above yours

>>520296123
I’ll be alright I have a good corner on my side so I’m not totally fucked but I’m getting real close

>>520296330
Rome had created the plebs itself by taking away their jobs in the countryside and literally replacing them with slaves.
They fed them because otherwise the plebs would have burned rome to the ground.

>>520281329 (OP)
>Judicial branch orders executive and legislative branch on economic and budgetary matters decided by the executive and legislative branch exclusively

>>520296448
I suffer from not working in a long time / gaps in resume / too smart to work for shit job so they think I'll quit as soon as I find something better / overqualified / under / no car / no washer or drier, so as you can imagine, not much fits the bill

say it with me folx

NOTHIGN

>>520288582
Trump declares a new national emergency about once a month.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States

EVER

HAPPENS!!!!

>>520296862
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States
>Wilson appointed the first Jew and the first Roman Catholic to the faculty, and helped liberate the board from domination by conservative Presbyterians
The list shows a clear pattern. The more a president is under jewish influence, the more emergencies he seems to declare.

>>520296464
It gets worse so one of my doctors apparently 15 years ago he wrote himself prescriptions for xannax and got a felony for it so social security used that as an excuse to deny me saying they can’t get information from him even tho there is ample proof I can’t work that they acknowledge. So on a technicality they denied me and my lawyer is eating this up because it’s an easy payday. But that is fucked you can’t just deny someone because the only doctor that treats them in 150 miles is a scumbag. It doesn’t work like that so I’m looking good for my case. The problem is I need food until then fuck orange kike I just need another year or 2 I can’t do this hunger shit

>>520296723
I think a lot of the people who do the hire for larger companies can be some of the most petty assholes you ever met.
Consider going outside of your comfort zone and apply for jobs you wouldn't normally go for, might suck, but you also might find something you like. Or maybe just something that gets you by in the meantime while you search in the background.
I haven't really had to apply in a long time, but it took my gf 7 months to find a job she finally settled on. But she also rejected a few just due to difficult hours or long commute times. I get it though, demand for bodies is rapidly falling due to AI and outsourcing. You may have specialized for a world that no longer exists, that's the hard truth, and it may be time for you to adapt to the new paradigm, I really don't know your specific case though, I don't know anything about you and can only speculate.
Best of luck to you anon, all the same.

>>520296862
That's 3.25 per year so far on record, maybe 40 million going without food security *might* make the list with any jingle of hope here

>>520295329
Those 40 millions can die the next day and nothing will happen. So no it is not an emergency.

>>520295424
Should've used that money to kill people like you

>>520282041
Did you fail civics class?

>>520282481
There's a reason we call it "King Hawaii Judge". The No Kings protest had the wrong target.

>>520297217
If Trump was smart, he'd declare a national emergency tomorrow and immediately force the senate to pass the CR or he'll declare martial law and suspend habeas corpus on the entire congress and judiciary. YES he can actually do that under certain emergencies.

>>520281329 (OP)
>chuds unironically thought the U.S. government would suddenly let millions starve for no reason

>>520281431
>>520281329 (OP)
this is honestly good. The government’s checking account will get drained immediately by welfare spending (half the US budget) and other government functions like CIA glowniggers, foreign wars, etc. will start feeling the squeeze sooner.

>>520282481
literally has already happened.

>>520297497
You can fantasize all you want, trump will not seize power.
The ancient greeks described it, and history has proven them right.
Every tyrant creates a private army loyal only to him, financed by the state, before he seizes power.
No private army/guard, no power grab.

>>520281329 (OP)
Told ya.
You mutts will not do a god damn thing to the kikes mutts. Pay up your taxes to feed black single moms tim tim.

>>520297138
yeah something similar happened to me, around 10 years ago or so i had surgery on my knee and they prescribed me 1 month's worth of vicodin. fast forward a few years and i go to get an x-ray for something unrelated and it shows on my record that i've been receiving vicodin every month. i wasn't penalized or anything though and i have no idea what happened with the doctor that prescribed it, they just had it removed from my medical record or whatever

>>520297830
The modern version is a diffuser private army of think-tanks, influences, lobbying groups, special interests, policy setters, corpos, random rich people, and aligned nation states. The sanitized and modernized version... For your convenience.

>>520297830
He already has all the power. This whole situation is going to come to a very violent end, and the majority of fighting-age males that are US citizens in the US are more right-leaning than Trump is.
The situation here in the US is a powder keg.

>>520288157
>Thread is about their actions
>Pretends it's about something else
It's fascinating how the left is completely given up in every single regard. It's all just threats, insults, lies or violence

>>520297832

Kys fecaloid

>>520289169
>Why does the idea of paying niggers to exist bother you?
You're less than an animal.

>>520298080
I think you're coping anon.
Even among whites, most young men are some sort of onions boy faggot.
And young whites are a minority.

>>520281329 (OP)
>Trump administration fights tooth and nail to stop the poors from getting food so they can push through more billionaire tax cuts
>Only stopped by a Trump appointed judge ordering them to use the emergency funds set aside for SNAP

This administration will go down as the most openly corrupt and evil administration to date.

>>520288267
The aim is to generate unrest, why do you think Stephen Miller has relocated to a military base?

>>520298544
It's not like that over here at all these days.

>>520297830
Trump tried to do this his first term, told no. This time around he got ICE funded for tens of billions and has changed their leadership to his loyalists from Border Patrol. Top aides live on military bases. He keeps declaring national emergencies. He has every intention of unleashing his armed loyalists with live fire against Americans.

>>520283118
>Reminder than the Republicans shut down the government because they don't want to release the Epstein list.
Passing a continuing resolution to extend funding so the government can reopen requires 60 votes in the Senate. There are currently 53 Republican Senators.
The Senate has voted on a new CR numerous times.
All of the GOP Senators (except Rand Paul) have voted to pass a new CR.
All Democrat Senators, except for Fettertardman, Angus King, and one or two others, keep voting against a new CR.
The Republicans are the ones who keep voting in favor of a CR to reopen the government. The reason it hasn't passed is because 53 GOP Senators minus 1 lolbert plus 3 basedtard Dems, is still less than 60.
When Democrats say that Republicans are refusing to negotiate or compromise, or that Republicans are why the government is shut down, that is complete bullshit intended to confuse low information democrats. There is nothing to negotiate. All it takes is a few more Dems voting yes on the CR and the government would reopen immediately, SNAP payments would go out, etc.
What the Democrats are really trying to do is force the GOP to agree to extending Obamacare health insurance handouts to illegals and poorfags. That is a completely separate issue which has nothing directly to do with the government shutdown or a new CR.
The Dems are refusing to pass a new CR because they are trying to force the GOP to agree to extend the ACA handouts to illegals as a compromise, in exchange for the Dems agreeing to pass a new CR.
The Democrats don't seem to understand that most Republicans really don't give a shit about the non-essential (ie the worthless parts that shouldn't exist in the first place) government being shut down or niggers not getting they food stamps.

>>520297616
>starve
You people spam this like your lives depend on it when you're 300 lbs and live up the street from a food pantry.

>>520282289
I am totally okay with poor people giving politicians of any stripe the Luigi treatment straight to the Hell Warp Zone

>>520298824
I hope you realize this is one of those situations where they pretend to be completely confused so you have to type more before they pretend they won because you're typing too much. The retard knows he's wrong and retarded, it's on purpose.

>>520298722
Nevertheless, he is surrounded daily by the secret service, who have sworn allegiance to the system, not to him.
Only when he entrusts his personal safety to loyalists will the whole thing become realistic.

>>520281329 (OP)
federal judges don't make the rules. they only did this to try to put the responsibility for hungry fat diabeetus niggers on the republicans.

>>520283221
>you've lost your own party in the process
Actually, no, just the opposite.
We used Trump as an instrument to seize control of the party from the worthless neocon elitist shitbag RINOs and used it to replace Clintonian third way neoliberalism with our own White Nationalist Christofascism as the predominant political ideology in the United States.
We voted for all of this, we won, we are in charge now and for the foreseeable future, and things are going even better and happening even faster than we expected.
>aren't you tired of winning yet?
No, of course not.
>We have to keep winning. We have to win more. We're gonna win more. We're gonna win so much.

>>520298670
Again, I think you're coping.
It's more like that in America than in any other place, really.
With the possible but unlikely exception being Canada.

>>520282289
Poor people are slim because they work the hard tedious menial jobs and can't afford to eat all the time.
Welfare niggers are fat and lazy and should absolutely be forced to chimp out so they can get caught by law enforcement and put in federal work camps.

>>520292965
Most of those on food stamps straight up do not work. The entire program should realistically be dissolved and remade from the ground up, it's just there to subsidize people that don't want to work.