Thread 520483721

BELGIVM
the HEVRT of EVROPA

>>520483721 (OP)
that just doesn't look right

>>520483721 (OP)
Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.

>>520483794
Open your eyelids then

>>520483794
Europeans have a much looser term for castle (chateau can mean house/palace)

FEUDALISM IS SAVAGERY
ADMINISTRATIVE OR BUST

>>520483794
Uhm it's a map posted by an anonymous shill on 4chan, better check your truthiness privilege, goy!

>>520483841
>>520483873
It's a map of Europe.

What's the problem?

>>520483721 (OP)
Nice fake image. Americans and 3rd worlders will believe it tho. I mean, Europe has a lot of castles tho so I dunno what the point of this is.

>>520483721 (OP)
Interesting that Poland is divided almost like a line wonder what's the reason

those French and German castles 90% of them are just mansions
it's like if we called our "dworek" castles

>>520484175
Nothing interesting, just yids stealing from slavs

>>520483794

its not.way more castles in england

>>520483721 (OP)
western eurogoons call every giant niggerhut made out of stone a "castle"

>>520484626
not even castle, mcmansions of brick are called castles

Ok, but do you have a jew castle?

>>520484473
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as slavs, are in fact, ruthenians/eastern germanic descendants of kievan rus, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, east nordids.

Slavs are not a race unto itself, but rather another component of the ethnogenesis of the scandinavian norse germanic people from the migration of the peoples and onward, made historically relevant by the kievan rus settlements in Gardariki by the norsemen who traveled down the Volga and founded both Russia and Ukraine before being christianized by the byzantine empire.

Many eastern germanics speak the artifical glagolithic church language invented by the greek monk Cyrill, which is where the term cyrillics stems from. Before that, they spoke old norse and revered pagan germanic gods.

All the so-called "slavs" are really descendants of eastern germanics. There is objectively no argument to be made against this historical fact.

Thanks for reading, and please refer to them as "eastern germanics" next time you make a "slav" post.

We literally only have 3 castles in the entire country and a few more ruins

>>520484883
Also, what is a castle?

>>520483721 (OP)
Unfortunately none of those countries are what they used to be, we are all mutted

>>520483721 (OP)
didn't Germany have more than France?

>>520484175
west polish = german
east polish = jews

>>520483721 (OP)
You'll notice most castles are in places of conflict.
It's only natural that the middle of the land has more castles whereas island nations have less. Note that there's a bunch of castles around the scotland-England border, for example, or another belt of castles between Wales and England.

>>520483721 (OP)
How many of them are Folly Castles or fancy Manor Houses that they call castles but aren't?

For me a castle is built for fortification first.

this is a map of non-fortress castles

>>520485233
fortresses are missing from the map, it's all manors

>>520484948
Brother, yids have nothing to do with slavs, muh germanic larp needs to stop, you are nothing more than kikels desperately trying to be something you are not.
You are not nordic, you not slavic, nor are you "germanic"
All encompassing "Germanic race" does not exists, its a delusional larp manifested by dysgenic yids from nazi germany, this larp of "oh everyone in evrop is actually germanic" is delusional and counter productive.
Btw kievan rus never existed, it was always just rus or specifically rusland. Ruthenia is another larp made by yids btw, no such thing ever existed and only came into existence as a failed proto hyhyl attempt

The fact that you are sperging out about this, is proof of my words

also

>>520484968
How do you think we feel? We don’t have ANY castles. Okay, well, we do. They’re aristocrat manor houses like you see in France and England, where they convert and old castle into a house, but the castles of Europe were actually used for war or preventing war. Here the aristocracy just did jt because the Southern tradition came from English Norman Cavalier Dandies.

I will say, though, the US has some very cool historic forts, cathedrals, and manors/mansions. Which a castle is sort of a combination of. So that’s that.

Anyways, for anyone who hasn’t heard, Carmelite Catholic Monks are building a YUGE, BEAUTIFUL Monastery in Wyoming. See picrel

>>520483721 (OP)
Fake. Wales have the most castles per mile on earth

>>520484175
Medieval Poles built thousands of castle on the front line with Germany to defend the slavic world

>>520485271
Fortresses are cool as fuck, but once built for defence against cannons and garrisoned mainly by military, I don't consider Castles.

Although there's can be somthing said about towns and cities fortified in that way.
I wonder if there is more definition on this I don't know about.

>>520483862
This rusnigger looks just like my neighbor!

>>520485346
Injuns built some cool things as well.
But we're on the same continent as these French and germans with their 100 000 castles and we have barely any. You never had the chance for castles, we were here all this time and we have almost nothing to show for it.

>>520485015
>Also, what is a castle?
a woman could be a castle

>>520485271
>Fortresses are missing from the map, it’s all manors
Oh I take back my statement about all of America’s aristocrat castles being fake then, we do have real castles

>>520483721 (OP)
>belgium has the most castles
>but you have to go to belgium to see them

>>520483865
we say "chateau fort" for the OG medieval castles

>>520485546
Yeah Cahokia was really interesting, I wish it had survived to this day. I forgot why it collapsed but it was before Europeans came around. It had influence far away.

Anyways, don’t blame yourself for not having castles, honestly it’s not like a bunch of war between aristocrats and nobles happened in Finland like it did France for 1000 years, you can’t blame yourself. I’m sure there are some forts on the coast of Finland because you know Sweden and Russia

Does it only count surviving castles?

I've also remembered that the UK lost a lot of castles back in the old days, they all got blown up.

>>520485516
The best I tracked is that this data comes from OpenStreetMap with a tag "castle"
And I quote
>The scope of the tag currently also includes non-fortified residences like palaces
In the data, you have included
>[W] Stately homes ([W] châteaux) and [W] manor houses: Unfortified residences of a lord, a noble or a gentry.

You also have actual castles in the data, it's just not a map of castles.

>>520485546
Also, I just looked into it, you guys actually do have a significant number of castles, especially if we’re going by the standards of others in the thread

reminder
for all the evil that islamic invasions caused, those attacks did spur the scientific revolution in Europe which saved it.

all those castles exist because Muslims caused 'dark ages' of strife and violence.

>>520485844

I'm going to spend a bit of time trying to find the real number of castles in Europe at some point.

>>520485961
Here's a castle built by moors

>>520483721 (OP)
>white
More like central europe, see it does not include anything further east than hungary

>>520485919
>>520485720
there's 3 actual standing castles. a few partial ruins, a few more full ruins. then some modern forts. Of course there's plenty of ancient hill forts but only a few of them have have anything you can actually see. But yeah if we add manors into the mix there's quite a few. Then some castles in Karelia are on the wrong side of the border but ho well. Pic related is ancient hill forts. They were mostly to protect people and cattle during raids. They would go there and hide whilst the men went out and repelled the attack. Not really meant for sieging like a castle.

>>520483794
>poolish kike spawn mad
KEK

>>520486478
We have castle raveska8v0

There's too many slavs in this thread

>>520485336
"Also"

>>520486595
I love how the poolakikes got triggered by this post KEK

>>520483721 (OP)
Scotland is the whitest, and the most Jewish.

>>520483721 (OP)
>you can see the front line of the hundred years' war
That's cool.

>>520486103
Looking around the data a bit more,
I'm also fairly sure they just filtered with "historic=castle" and not "building=castle"
That poses a problem, because you'd ideally want things like sites, buildings or ruins.
Which means, the is basically just fucking anything vaguely related to castles. It might just be a map of old moats. It lines up very well with the data, so I'm fairly certain I'm right on the money there.

Just to emphasize why this is a problem, it didn't take long to find this little shitty islet at 44°44'33.3"N 0°41'36.4"E
This thing is a fucking castle according to that logic.

>>520485346
The South were also using medieval weapons near the end of the Civil War when they ran out of bullets. Though I went to a real 1800's fort near the Canadian border. They had 2 jail cells that looks like a county jail. But before that, they had a hole for a dungeon. They kept it for storage and in case they ran out of jail space.

>>520483794
It's pretty much a population map around trade routes, bottlenecks and beautiful places.

>>520485091
Most of them are in places where Muslims rarely attacked and in the most technological places in Europe before cannons were invented. Could also be castles still standing on this map.

>>520483721 (OP)
France and Belgium calls any mid-sized mansion a "castle"
This is more of a "who's the most pompous faggot" map

>>520487328
>The South were also using medieval weapons
Pikes? Some were used in our civil war in 1918 lol. Also Brits made 200 000 pikes in 1940-41 and intended to use them if the germans invaded, the japs did much the same in 1945

>>520484473
we have tons of early medieval castles that are just built in bumfucked places (remote hills etc.) and are mostly left to time unless near/in cities

>>520483721 (OP)
Anon, they built castles where the natives were uppity.

>>520483721 (OP)
Scania mentioned.

>>520483721 (OP)
First I thought that's not many castles in England but then I remembered it's not a white country. Everything seems to be in order. We are properly castlemaxxed and I know this to be true because my parents made me visit them all when I was a kid.

>>520483794
same, probably a meme map

>>520485321
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure that the Russian school system, especially history, is somewhat biased, to put it mildly.

Russians say: you're talking crap, we learned it right. Grandpa wrote the textbooks himself, lol.

>>520483794
it's this >>520483865
from the looks of it, it includes every two bit noble's manor house, places like this or even smaller ones

>>520489536
FANCY HOUSES ARE NOT FUCKING CASTLES

Slavic tears itt
Delicious

>>520489118
>>520489536
I tried to replicate the methodology I thought they used and came up with pic related.

This map includes all kinds of bullshit that's not even buildings.
As an example all the bullshit like this >>520487172 is included. Compare to the map in the OP, I didn't go all out with diligence, I might have missed a difference.
In addition, there's shit like bunkers made in 2009 in this map. The reason I limited the area so much is that these queries aren't exactly instant.

I'm going to query for things that are actual buildings and have a meaningful classification as a defensive castle, fortification, or palace.

>>520483721 (OP)
poor spain

>>520489884
here's the result if I filter down to defensive castles, palaces and fortresses

>>520487172
>>520489884

Nice work anon.

>>520486535
you have the most kikes in europe

>>520483721 (OP)
everything is a chateau to the french

>>520483721 (OP)
>castles
The majority of these buildings are just residencies of rich people not actual defensive castles.

>>520484948
cope more

>>520490047
CRY MORE KIKE SPAWN. YOU WILL NEVER WHITE NOR EUROPEAN

Cry more Slavrats.

I'm from Catalonia. One theory suggests that the name comes from castlà, which means "the ruler of a castle"

In the distance I can see an unfinished 13th century castle from my window

>>520490272
>catalonia is named like Castille

Gothialania sounds cooler. But I like this one better.

>>520490272
>unfinished 13th century castle

lazy bastards, how long you need to build one?

>>520483721 (OP)
you're lucky it doesn't show finland

>>520489979
Based imaginary anon effort posting for us

>>520483721 (OP)
France consideres chateaus as castles. In reality most are just cylindrical houses or towers.

>>520489979
Well its Only showing Loviisa and what I presume is the fort at Taavetti for us. Both "modern" forts not castles. There is probably error in the data on how they are classified.

>>520484473
Truth always prevails

>>520483721 (OP)

only fieldcucks need castles to imitate the natural defenses of the mountains

>>520489979
I only see one dot in my department, but we have at least 6 mediaeval castles

>>520493027
Its Slavic copetism.

>>520489739
in german there are a number of terms specifically describing the kind of noble residence.

schloss
burg
festung
herrenhaus
gutshaus etc.

these include the 'two bit' places. keep in mind, that each of them came with land ownership and tax rights. 'castle' refers to a regional king's or lord's place and usually they had several, dedicated ones. city, hunt, summer, party, shtf retreat, and so on.

>>520483721 (OP)
Plot twist: instead every dot represents a homo

>>520492349
>>520493027
People label the data in all sorts of ways. While the pic in the OP had a silly filter, mine's not that much better. I included things specifically labelled as buildings. A lot of castles aren't buildings. A lot of castles have inconsistent "castle typing" in the data. I specifically excluded manors, which also excludes a lot of French castles that people would call castles. I advise to use your brain a little. I write a lot and haphazardly, but there's a reason I tell how I'm filtering the data.

The problem is that it's always going to both miss some sites and include sites that shouldn't be included. We can get really creative and just include medieval castles and manors that have the kind of data that's hard to spoof. This way, it's unlikely that some random moat is included.

We can kind of use logic to try and work around it. This is labelled historical castles that have era data associated with them. People are unlikely guess at that. Again, there's likely notable castles missing this way, and there's likely some random ass ex-hillfort (read: just a hill now) in the data.

>>520484968
Surprises me, don’t you guys have lots of stone or is it all hard to work granite?

The density of that map almost correlates with the presence of sandstone and limestone. With the areas with basalt having less stonework.

I wouldn’t want to cut granite without modern tools desu. It doesn’t like to split and is almost as hard as steel so it eats tools

>>520492706
XD

>>520494849
I'd like to note that fucking Seikkailupuisto (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seikkailupuisto) is listed as a historical castle in this map. Just to emphasize that all approaches are only as good as the labelled data.

>>520485251
Aren’t castles by definition fortresses with a civilian living space? They acted more like a local police garrison and town office than a pure military installation honestly.

>>520495101
That's the same as saying the map is incorrect, really.

>>520483721 (OP)
>places where Big Jew was resisted most fiercely, so that massive fortifications were needed to shield the soft, dysgenic bodies of Christian-cattle from the righteous fury of the Northman

>>520495195
Yes, you are right. I was just saying some of the mansions if militarized would count as castles. Think of the grand hall that the Rohan had in the movie. That’s a castle. It’s just a mansion with a palisade and dry moat around it but it effectively works as a castle.

>>520494971
Half of all of our rock is granite yes.
But it's mostly due to
1. low population
2. Sweden didn't properly develop feudalism
3. being mostly part of Sweden for 700 years, a lot of those places in germany/france were small semi-autonomous small nobles who constantly fought each other and collected their own taxes etc.
>>520495097
KEK!!
yeah thats what I meant with my original reply to you. good job anyway

>>520483721 (OP)
That's largely fake for France. 90% of their "château" aren't castles but palaces and mansions, i.e. Nothing fortified.

>>520495498
I think the biggest confusion here is both ontological and linguistic. A villa isn't really a castle in English. A city isn't a castle in English. A fort is a castle in English. What is considered a castle is inconsistent between languages.

>>520485015
This counts?

>>520484175
Almost as if russia didnt exist back then

>>520483721 (OP)
And the biggest castle in the world... is in Poland.

>>520483794
I'm not sure about proper definition but most of the "castles" are just bigger mansions build in some period by people of specific status, that's all.

>>520492760
Isn't your country littered with hundreds of thousands bunkers?

>>520493027
those are offensive castles

>>520496719
almost as if historically there never was a threat from the east

>>520496784
jfc, that was built by Germans.

White societies are objectively superior
all non-Whites are desperate to live among Whites in a White centered cultural world and to cleanse their inferior genes with the superior genes of the White woman

this will never change
only Whites have souls, only Whites are people

>>520483721 (OP)
I love how Belgium is seen as a fake country with no history while having the most castles per km while the recently polderized country of the Netherlands that look like a made up lego country is seen as le heckin ancient real country

>>520489979
Looks accurate I think, you'd think there'd be at least one definition of a castle in the glamorgan area though

>>520489979
that's lowballing it

our castles were dismantled by turks so we would have harder time rebeling and killing them, every bigger town in medieval Serbia has/had castle/fort too

>>520483794
This isn't a map of castles. It's a map of which countries have national heritage societies that autistically map out all their castles.
Unless you assume whoever made this map surveyed every acre in Europe on his own.

This means it's still a whiteness map, just in a different way from what you assumed.