Thread 520498542

>>520498542 (OP)
Kenosha OSHA

>>520498542 (OP)
Shouldn't this be done at the state level?

>>520498542 (OP)
Based basic bill. Two sentences. I can get behind that. You want to import the third world? Let’s give them the working conditions they are used to

>>520498756
county

>>520498808
Seems a little local but it definitely shouldn't be done at the federal level. Imagine sending federal level inspectors into a fucking housing worksite lmfao.

>>520498542 (OP)
This highlights the power of ONE. The power of TWO. The power of MAAANYY!

>>520498542 (OP)
I think this is a bad idea. Work safety regulations is a rare good thing that socialism has achieved

>>520498542 (OP)
Always was

>>520499155
thanks for your opinion mongoloid hybrid

I would expect nothing less from a republicuck. Now get cancer and die for the GDP wage slaves. MAGA awoooooo

>>520499539
You're welcome. This is the only place where you can obtain them for free

>>520498542 (OP)
>Well, was it just a virtue signal after all?
OSHA is already not enforced on the federal level. Electrical live work is supposed to be done with an engineered solution to minimize risk. Cowboying up isn't an engineered solution, it's the opposite. Reporting employers for requiring unpermitted hot work results in no action.

OSHA only shows up when people die and that's only to make a report which just says "whoops".

>>520498756
>Shouldn't this be done at the state level?
No, of course not, OSHA is a federal agency you stupid fucking shitskin.

Have fun getting crippled on the job miggers. No you won’t get healthcare when that happens just suck it up or die parasites

according to osha, powerstrips are basically a nuclear bomb and you shohldnt use them in a shop. only dealing i ever had with them. it was fucking pointless.
BYE BITCH

>>520498542 (OP)
Say goodbye to all the young people signing up for trades. When people start dying 3 people to a job like in the 70s no zoomer is going to risk his life for fucking peanuts

>>520499155
>work at a place with a dock
>used to have a nice easy chain going across when not in use
>safety regulations say that is too unsafe
>now its two huge cross bars that you have to lift over your head every time you want to ship something
>safety
Fuck off, at this point these people are sitting in an office looking for shit to change for changes sake

>>520498771
>You want to import the third world? Let’s give them the working conditions they are used to
jeets get all of the office jobs
whites will be sent into the mines to mine silica without respirators

how retarded do you have to be to not realize by now that literally every single thing this administration has done, has ended up fucking up white peoples' lives while leaving brownoids totally unaffected?

>>520500894
But what about ICE and the deportations? No, you can't see the numbers and we're NOT hiding them because we're embarrassed.

>it's just two lines!
>it needs to be a 4800 page epic with a hidden section pledging ten billion to Israel and kid fucking

>>520499155
It's not saying "work safety is abolished". It's saying "we in the federal government are not supposed to dictate this shit".
The sole purpose of the federal government is to protect, uphold, and guarantee the constitutional, God given rights of the citizens. That is it. Anything beyond that is not their problem.
States can have their own workplace safety departments. They regulate themselves. It is not the job of the federal government to tell you to wear a hard hat.

>>520501121
>But what about ICE and the deportations?
they could vaporize every single mexican overnight and it wouldn't hold a candle to the absolutely absurd amount of jeets and other third-world trash getting dumped into this country
whatever he's doing with ICE is the equivalent of trying to save the titanic by drinking the seawater coming into your stateroom.

>>520498808
You're not wrong, but imagine nigger/spic counties running something that complex? I mean for white people it just means keeping up standards, but for niggers/spics it's a herculean task that might as well be rocket surgery. Add in the coming waves of jeet corruption on top of that... If you thought those Chinese lathes were well fed...

>>520498542 (OP)
Another Russo Israeli plant dead set on pillaging our country.

>>520500446
Do you have shit for brains? My point was occupational health and safety should be something the states are responsible for, not the fucking feds.

>>520500894
>how retarded do you have to be to not realize by now that literally every single thing this administration has done, has ended up fucking up white peoples' lives while leaving brownoids totally unaffected?
Because that hasn't happened at all and all the jeets were imported by biden.

Leftists are a special kind of psycho that will shit on the carpet and then claim you shat on the carpet and demand you pay them reparations for it.

>>520501442
>My point was occupational health and safety should be something the states are responsible for
Feds still have disability SSI
When states don't give a shit and workers end up disabled, feds pay. It's a federal interest.

>>520501552
>Because that hasn't happened at all and all the jeets were imported by biden.
jeets were getting imported under trump 1, then got imported under biden, now they're getting imported under trump 2
trump is still sucking modi's dick and allowing GATI to arbitrage labor in the US with jeets

trump is as much, if not more of a corpo establishment shill than biden was
biden was a retarded mental patient, trump is just fucking white people hardcore 24/7 and sucking israel's dick while doing it

>>520501577
There should be a separate disability account funded by the states for their own workplace accidents. (This is literally what happens in Canada). The US federal government has its hands in too many pies.

>>520498542 (OP)

I have nothing against OSHA personally, but I think it's bullshit that I have to sit through a thirty minute OSHA video as part of the on-board training.
I get that this exists because a sizeable portion of the work force lacks basic brain power to operate safely in a work environment, but it is unfair that I should be lumped in with the insensate, merely out of legal obligation.

>>520498542 (OP)
OSHA should be abolished because it doesn’t do anything you fucking zoomoid retards. The government at large does nothing besides stick a gun in your face and force you to support its electorate. The state serves itself and its own power perpetuation.

>>520501924
>There should be a separate disability account funded by the states for their own workplace accidents
>states making businesses pay according to risk causes businesses to flee to states that don't
>state not charging according to risk runs short of cash
Guess who comes in to rescue states when they become insolvent?
Protip- it isn't the businesses.
Here is a hint- it's the feds.
Which makes worker safety a federal interest.

>>520501953
>30 minutes of my life!!!! Gone!
What a fucking crybaby.

>>520501953
>a sizeable portion of the work force lacks basic brain power
This is the simple reason I am done participating or contributing, so OSHA can dissolve for all I care. I like it in theory, it's just that the whole culture is too fucked and retarded to care about. You're just working to support fat tattooed single mother whores and feed babboon niggers' niglets and help streetshitters to replace you anyway.

>>520502245
When was the last time a state went bankrupt? The responsibility is on the states to correctly balance receipts for their disability accounts. State voters need to hold their legislatures and executives accountable for state level responsibility. Maybe the feds should have regulations on the accounting, and that's about it.

If the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire happened today, lolberts would be cheering on the business owners for basically murdering 146 people (which includes children). Then also cheer the insurence companies for making it so the business owners made a profit off killing 146 people.
Lolberts then wonder why their party is extremely unpopular

>>520502382
>When was the last time a state went bankrupt?
You mean insolvent? California has money issues because of covid hotel rooms for homeless people staying in fancy hotels for years instead of weeks. California can't afford the bill.
Guess who the California governor is suing for federal money to cover that expense?
Hint- the feds

>>520502561
Have they won that retarded lawsuit? And are they actually insolvent or just running a retarded deficit?

>>520498542 (OP)
this kills the engineer

>>520498542 (OP)
I work in industry. This is retarded.

OSHA is a double edged sword.
There's good things like
>HEY GET THAT FUCKING METAL LADDER OFF MY JOB SITE YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT BEFORE SOMEONE ELECTROCUTES THEMSELVES
Then there's stuff like
>HEY YOU CAN'T LIFT MORE THAN 50 POUNDS BY YOURSELF

>>520502630
>And are they actually insolvent or just running a retarded deficit?
insolvent /ĭn-sŏl′vənt/
Not solvent; not having sufficient estate to pay one's debts; unable to pay one's debts as they fall due, in the ordinary course of trade and business.

So yes, they have a "retarded deficit". Because they are insolvent.

>Have they won that retarded lawsuit?
If they don't get it in the first round, second round will be re filed when the president isn't republican.

>>520502820
You know you can do things without being obligated by federal law to do so, right

>>520501552
Trump didn't end H1b. In fact, he hasn't done much for legal immigration, legal or otherwise. ICE isn't border patrol and tends to arrest US citizens in addition to immigrants. They're pretty useless, actually.

>>520501312
>It's saying "we in the federal government are not supposed to dictate this shit".
In reality it's because the kiked politicians are completely beholden to jewish and corporate interests, and those groups want more workplace injuries and illnesses since the big pharma kikes get more money, and corporate kikes are allowed to skimp out even more which allows them to save money as well.

>>520502864
>You know you can do things without being obligated by federal law to do so, right
You know when you're working you get fired for not doing what you're told. The only reason you can currently say no to lethal tasks is because they are currently illegal. Currently. Getting rid of occupational safety and health administration and it's accompanying enforcement changes the legality of firing people for turning down dangerous tasks.

You don't magically have a choice to work safer when it is more expensive to do so. It takes a law to compel employers to choose expensive safety policies.

>>520498771
You can get behind it because large corporations told you to.

>>520502845
Insolvent and running a deficit aren't the same thing. Speaking of insolvent, I also have doubts the Democrat party exists by the next presidential election.

>>520499084
Kek

>>520501312
Cause every single time a company said trust us, we can self regulate. They did and it worked fine.

How do you fall for it Everytime lol.
I worked as a butcher and when Tyson self regulated I started cutting Mexican hair and tumors out of your food.

>>520503239
>Cause every single time a company said trust us, we can self regulate. They did and it worked fine
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA
Good one anon.

>>520503198
>Insolvent and running a deficit aren't the same thing.
I included a definition for you to attempt to read.
Maybe you tried? Anyways, you may have tried your best and it really wasn't good enough.

>>520498542 (OP)
Insurance companies set safety standards, OSHA is no longer needed. Why pay a bunch of bureaucrats to fine people for minor infractions just to make it look like they still serve a purpose.

The Insurance companies now rule the world.

>>520503352
I'll go by GAAP. Insolvent and running a deficit aren't the same thing. Before declaring bankruptcy there's lot of non-legal obligations California can and would cut as they have more revenue than shit they don't have to pay for. That's them being retarded and hurting their credit rating, not actual insolvency.

>>520502864
>you can do things without being obligated by federal law to do so

You know you can die because of what some other moron does regardless of how cautious you are yourself right?

>>520498542 (OP)
OSHA is one of the few things that should stay. It shouldn't be a bloated bureaucratic nightmare, but it should stay.

Every single OSHA reg is written in blood.

>>520503144
Large corporations told me to embrace diversity and the democrat agenda

>>520503517
>Insolvent and running a deficit aren't the same thing. Before declaring bankruptcy there's lot of non-legal obligations California can and would cut as they have more revenue than shit they don't have to pay for. That's them being retarded and hurting their credit rating, not actual insolvency.
I see the issue. You seem to think "bankrupt" is the only definition for insolvent. That's why I included a definition for you to read. Have you attempted to read the definition yet or are you content to pretend there is only one definition for a word and all other entries in a dictionary are Illuminati conspiracies?

>>520501312
Feds are also supposed to deal with states rights and interstate commerce. States rights are not equivalent to civilians rights btw

>>520503321
The only joke here is us calling ourselves a country instead of a corporation.

>>520500894
Democrats have been in power the vast majority of my life and yet the rich have never been taxed and the country keeps getting browner. Imagine that

>>520499155
What >>520501312 said. If work conditions are unsafe and shitty go work somewhere else they aren’t. Workers getting injured slows down production anyways.

If it’s 3rd world shitskins getting hurt and that don’t care about safety standards, who cares, it’s not like they were following OSHA already.

>>520503500
>OSHA is no longer needACK!!!

>>520503719
Sorry I do business accounting, using the dictionary definition which has a completely separate implication when you're discussing actual corporate accounting is retarded. Amazon wasn't insolvent when it was running a loss for a decade.

>>520503239
> and when Tyson self regulated I started cutting Mexican hair and tumors out of your food
Isn’t that a food standard/quality issue not workplace safety? You should complain about the FDA or USDA

>>520500446
>calls someone else stupid
>is retarded himself
He’s saying regulate it at the state level dumbass. Not the federal level

>>520503822
>Sorry I do business accounting, using the dictionary definition which has a completely separate implication when you're discussing actual corporate accounting is retarded.
I operate heavy machinery now and your use of the word retarded is wrong. You are an idiot to think there is a retarder being used and that is the only definition of the word I'll accept because of my employment.
That's how stupid your argument is to me.

>>520503988
You're using insolvent as it has a stronger meaning in retard parlance when incorrectly applied to running a deficit. Don't play coy.

>>520500894
> literally every single thing this administration has done, has ended up fucking up white peoples' lives while leaving brownoids totally unaffected?
Explain to me how Biden bringing in 15 million browns and Trump causing 2.2 million to leave in 2025 plays into your dumb statement.

>>520503631
>Large corporations told me to embrace diversity
so they can import millions of low wage workers

can you not see how importing low wage workers, and then getting rid of any and all safety standards (which usually cost money to adhere to) is in a corporations interest?

>>520498756
With no Federal Law States could develop their own standards and regs . Just like with abortion. Fedgov was intended to have a minimal role with most decisions left to the states. Fuck FDR

>>520503805
The insurance companies are the driving force behind most safety regulations, accidents cost money.

If your company does not have a good safety record your insurance premiums go up.

If (You) have a bad driving record your insurance premiums go up.

When OSHA was established before the insurance companies controlled every aspect of our lives.

Used to be you didn't have to have insurance to drive your car, now you do...

>>520503874
Yes. The take away you were suppose to understand is that when companies self regulate the low quality we already have gets lower
My example was with the USDA letting companies self regulate. It was bad.
We learned nothing and now we are talking about letting them self regulate safety. So I explained my example so maybe you all could better understand why it's a bad idea. I lived it and I know of real world examples where it has led to a worse situation for you.

I hope this better clarifies the comparative situations so you may better understand why your a faggot and dumbass if you think this is a good idea.

But the anti pedophile people also are pro pedophile now so I'm not hopeful.

>>520504283
I could see the feds mandating some framework to accept federal funds for certain things, but having them crawl up into everyone's ass with federal agents is fucking ridiculous. We have the same problem with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency fucking around with the food supply here. If that was state (provincial) level, none of that shit would be happening.

>>520503988
(And for the record, I used to run heavy equipment, drove skidders, log loaders, excavators, all kinds of shit).

>>520504329
>The insurance companies are the driving force behind most safety regulations, accidents cost money.
but when you get rid of the protections, they dont. Workers get injured or die and it costs nothing. Are you seriously this retarded?

>>520504283
>With no Federal Law States could develop their own standards and regs . Just like with abortion.
Fuck yeah anon, let the states decide whether baby murder is okay or not!

You've seen how much a shitshow state legislated abortion is and now you want to extend it to fucking labor safety standards, really?

sweet this means we could get hidef work injury gore videos instead of the potato quality stuff from china and india

>>520504058
>You're using insolvent as it has a stronger meaning
I am correctly using insolvent as per one of the definitions of insolvent. Did you know that? Words are neat.

>>520504726
You argue like a jew. You know damn well why you used insolvent and you pretend to be retarded. You don't need to argue like a jew to say California is a fucking financial basket case full of thieving retards and snakes.

>>520504726
Dunning kruger tard in full swing

>>520504795
>You know damn well why you used insolvent
Because running a deficit doesn't always mean bills are past due. And if I said running a deficit, you'd just argue that insolvent would have been the correct choice.

>>520504968
No I wouldn't have argued that. In arrears isn't insolvent either.

>>520504452
Do you know anything about Insurance?

Workers' compensation insurance is mandatory in most states, although the rules vary from state to state regarding how many people a business can employ before it is required. In some states, such as California and New Jersey, workers' compensation coverage is also mandated for independent contractors in certain industries. 235
Not having workers' compensation insurance where it's mandated can be a criminal offense, and the penalties can be severe. Fines can reach thousands of dollars per day for non-compliance and any loss of revenue due to business closure until coverage is in place. 3
In the United States, workers' compensation is mandated in every state except for Texas. 4

Then there's greedy little jews who love to sue you into oblivion and many large corporations will just pay out because it's cheaper in the long run.

Under this framework OSHA is superfluous and no longer needed.

Not saying it's right it's just the way it is.

Workers Comp is just one of the many insurances required to do business.

>>520502820
>in industry
What industry you retard? There’s wildly different regulations if you’re in a warehouse vs mining vs manufacturing vs being a dockworker

>>520505030
>No I wouldn't have argued that. In arrears isn't insolvent either.
While in arrears does mean in debt, in arrears can mean the debt isn't past due. A more specific word works better even if you are unhappy with it's correct use.

>>520498756
Yeah making workplace safety a competition between states to attract corner-cutting factory owners seems like a great idea

>>520505556
Yeah you've definitely spent too much time around jews. Gross.

>>520505588
Yeah some federal framework for the states to abide by would be a good idea but having it literally run by the feds is retarded.

>>520504462
>noh! don't let anyone freedom, nooooooh!!!!!!1!!11
you pathetic brown parasite

>>520505663
No it isn't. A decision to move a plant should not be made based on "I can get away with worse shit in Oklahoma than I can in New Mexico" or something along those lines.

>>520505609
>Yeah you've definitely spent too much time around jews. Gross.
I assume you're an expert when it comes to hanging around jews

>>520505717
Then the people of Oklahoma should bitch about that. As is you have a one stop shop for regulatory capture, the feds.

>>520505704
>noh! don't let anyone freedom, nooooooh!!!!!!1!!11
>the freedom to murder babies and kill your workers in preventative deaths

Ah yes anon, because everyone knows that third worldist brownies love NOT killing babies and having excellent safety protocols
Oh wait, they don't.

See how fucking stupid you sound?

>>520498542 (OP)
This did nothing to protect people in lines of work that didn’t already have unions to enforce it. I used to work for one of the big box stores and overhead the higher ups talking about how all they need to do to pay off a grieving family was make 3 million in a weekend and that was nothing to them. So they were like break every rule to make us money we don’t give a shit about a human life.

>>520505905
Enforcing anti-trust law would go a long way in ending this kind of abuse. Too many massive corporations have far too much power. The state granted limited liability to these monstrosities is criminal. I'm not sure where the current admin is on that. The first term they were pretty gung ho on it to the point cases ran right through the autopen presidency.

>>520499084
Why Jayden gots worms on his head?

>>520498542 (OP)
>it just a virtue signal after all?
WOOHOO!

>>520498542 (OP)
I voted for this

We need to dismantle OSHA so manufacturing can return!

>>520498542 (OP)
Now do the ATF and the EPA.

>>520503144
If it's good enough for Trump, it's good for the nation. Let's not forget that Trump knows of the struggles of the working class, I saw a picture on /ptg/ of Trump working in a McDonald's FOR FREE! He's also president of the US for free.

We need to teach our boys that working for free builds character, and sets you up to become a GENETICALLY SUPERIOR billionaire!

>>520505704
>You don’t want workplaces, who prioritize profits over everything else, to decide how safe their workplace is? (they are going to decide to use -20% of their budget on safety)
>WELL YOU JUST HATE FREEDOM THEN!!!
Post stock portfolio.

>>520498542 (OP)
This is great news, america can finally start producing its own liveleak work accident gore videos instead of importing them from china.

>>520508270
>Now do the ATF and the EPA.
Finalizing the removal of chevron deference will do wonders for both, but with current supreme court decisions the ATF should be the AT.

Good. We need to reduce all this bloat. Too many bullshit rules and regulations that are there just to fine people working.

>>520498542 (OP)
Maybe this is a 200 IQ play to deal with illegals on jobs sites by no longer having the jobs sites be safe.

>>520504175
Men literally write songs, make art, wage wars, and build civilizations for this

>>520500406
They generate evidence for the plaintiff’s bar to do the work.

t. Defense attorney that agrees with workplace safety standards.

>>520498542 (OP)
awesome, i can't wait to die in a workplace accident like those chinese liveleak videos.

>>520504283
If each state has their own safety regs working across borders is a giant pain in the ass. There's a reason the feds do it.

>>520498542 (OP)
Fuck these jews, OSHA is the one government agency that's worthy of my tax money.

>>520511452
>government rules are the only thing stopping me from being retarded and sticking my limbs into operational machinery
Shop class as a freshman in high school told me to not wear loose clothes around a lathe. If your job or your common sense can’t figure that out then that’s on you.

>>520498771
Cutting off your nose to spite your face, but hey it's your country muttbro, do as you please

>>520498542 (OP)
as someone who had to deal with OSHA in a business with chemical waste... OSHA is a good thing for the most part. Does it need reform? yes

>>520511630
Common sense or not, if there's nobody to tattle to (OSHA), every employer is going to be like "stick your hand in there or you're fired". And with the economic precarity we're under, a lot of people are going to take chances they otherwise wouldn't.

>Corporations and boomers are evil, greedy, and will cut and skip regulations as much as they can to save a single dollar
>Same corporations will self regulate to ensure safety standards are followed. Even spending the extra dollar to protect employees
Yeah okay. If you ever worked a trade you know which one holds true.

>>520511962
I voted for this, you kamala trannies need to learn to be adults now that Trump is president. No more OSHA safe spaces!

>>520511909
Don't care, I want manufacturing back.

If you're too pussy to work, maybe go to India.

>>520511590
Manufacturing back is more important than communist programs like OSHA. I want America to be great again, I want to destroy OSHA. When we anglos killed the natives and stole their land, we didn't need OSHA.

It is sad I have to share the same oxygen as retarded republicans

>>520502315
is Gen Z boss the ultimate hatefuck?

>>520498771
yesa massa

>>520512952
you want goyim to maim and abuse, kike

go back to tel aviv

>>520513596
Why do liberals like you oppose factories returning and OSHA getting killed?

>>520498542 (OP)
Based fuck OSHA, I used to stand on top of the ladders in the Air Force.

>>520501312
Your overlords already positioned their strategic work safety kikes in advantageous positions to control all the money to spend in those new departments and contracts. It was a hard sell to replace the largely unkiked OSHA with rabbis, so they just crush it and they jew the fallout away.

>>520513730
You're presenting a false choice between the two, like they're mutually exclusive. Factories and OSHA can both exist. We shouldn't have to compete with chinese slave factory working conditions. Isn't that the whole point of Trump's tariffs?

I'm sure OSHA needs a ton of reform, and that should absolutely be done. But doing away with it entirely to help kikes' bottom line and put workers in danger is peak judaic shysterism.

>>520511909
>every employer is going to be like "stick your hand in there or you're fired".
No they won’t. Why the fuck would employers WANT injured employees? That means fewer people making them money and machine downtime. No OSHA doesn’t shield them entirely from lawsuits either.

OSHA was established in 1971. Were companies telling employees to purposely hurt themselves during our manufacturing heyday of the prior 30 years? Of course not.

>>520514714
>I'm sure OSHA needs a ton of reform
It’s easier to gut it and start from scratch than it is to sift through 50 years of bureaucracy and determine what’s good and what isn’t. It’s extremely easy to add one little rule here and one little rule there. It’s very hard to pull any of those back. If you’ve ever dealt with regulatory hassle you’ll know what I mean. “Good enough” doesn’t exist to them because then it means they’d be out of a job.

>>520504283
>Fuck FDR
This all started with that fag Hamilton, got worse with Lincoln, and the final nail in the coffin was FDR.

>>520514714
>Isn't that the whole point of Trump's tariffs?
No, read the Art of the Deal

>>520515775
>That means fewer people making them money and machine downtime.
Happens all the time in the US, despite OSHA.

>>520516129
>Art of the Deal
people still believe that slop? taco trump can't make deals and everyone sees it now kek

>>520498542 (OP)
BACK TO THE MINES CHILDREN

>>520516435
I voted for this

Trump's father became rich by working in the mines, he was just like you and me!

>>520501552
It's still happening at companies across the board, including my employer, and getting worse every day

OSHA is used to undermine and destroy business that are not jewish owned businesses..

It's no longer a benign government agency to protect workers, it's being used by jews to undermine and destroy America..

>>520517475
How about a bill to end jewish owned businesses?

Seems like you're intentionally misplacing the blame here.

>>520518946
Yea, I'm sure congress will get right on that.

>>520520429
>well, we can't go after the actual problem. Best I can do is advocate for making every other company just as jewish
cool. great plan.