Thread 520506434

What political measure was taken so Russians are convinced they're the successor of Rome in any way or measure?

>>520506434 (OP)
>"Big land like Rome hahaha it doesn't matter if we shit outside"

>>520506434 (OP)
Russians are the heirs of the golden horde after they became Mongols themself.

>>520506771
Not even mongols would prepare sweet spaghetti with milk

>>520506434 (OP)
The heir of the Seljuk sultanate of Rum.

>>520506434 (OP)
Moscow being the third Rome and Russia being the successor to the Roman Empire dates back to the 15th century
It has more legitimacy than your entire country

>>520506771
Those monkeys are cute as fuck.

>>520506434 (OP)
Their ruler used to be the "Tsar" which comes from Caesar. Byzantine also Christianized the region aswell, so you could consider the Russian Empire as the successor to the Eastern Roman Empire

>>520509228
Wrong.

>>520509228
lol the third rome
imagine if the romans got their asses kicked trying to take Lutecia and lost 200k men trying to conquer Massilia
hahahahahhahahahahha
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHA
HAHAHAHAGAHAHAH
>NYOOOO BOOSHKI BOOSHKA STOP MAKING FUNINSKI OF MAZA ROSSIYA NYOOOOO YOU BLYAT BLOTKA
oooh and what a beautiful ROMANce language the third rome speaks!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA

AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
HHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAAH

>>520509228
we wuz Rome an shieeeet

I too, am the living incarnation of legendary Rome. Now bow to me slaves.

>>520509228
>uh okay so in like 1200 Yaroslav the Wise married Papadopoula Palaiologos so uh, basically we wuz Roam and shit now

>>520506434 (OP)
Center of ortodox church was in Russia for some time.
We say catolic church is rome 2.0 legacy of romans. Same can be said about eastern empire and ortodoxy.

>>520506434 (OP)
probably the same hubris that makes an Ottoman rape baby think his blood line has any; connection to Rome and therefore he thinks his duty to protect the legacy while his current country is full of Africans lmao

>>520506434 (OP)
Also whats his problem. I would rather be jakut and hunt deer in siberia with no care in my mind than try to create a new rome with jewtins oligarchs.

>>520509494
It's the other way around, the first Russian tsar came after this idea and expression originated.
>>520509624
>>520509661
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>>520509803
This is literally mainstream history.

>>520509494
>uses the word for emperor for what is actually a king
It has nothing to do, it's just cosplay

>>520510194
Mainstream history in Russia, leave Russia and most people don't even consider Constantinople a "second Rome". It's purely Russian fanfic.

>>520510529
Yes, this is Russia's business and Russia is big.
>most people don't even consider Constantinople a "second Rome"
Because you are cuckholics and other shit that has nothing to do with Christianity at all

>>520506434 (OP)
This is the True haei. Literally called Romania.
THe guy in pic is just some delulu. Could have at least larped is the Cyrodiil's blades or smth. Though not theaticaly appropriate either given the them being a slave nation
>>520510194
You stole the romaboo idea from Bulgars and Austrians. Tsar era logo and flag literally just austrian with extra white stripe

>>520510879
>includes Siberian shamans, muslims and empty space
Ah yes very Christian

>>520510961
>You stole
Depending on the sources you look at they were the ones who proposed Moscow's status as the third Rome, but it is highly questionable.
Either way neither Austrians or Bulgarians have even close to as much connection to Orthodox Christianity and the Byzantine Empire as Russia, so calling them successors is simply silly.
>>520511093
I'm not even telling you anything that has political or emotional connotations. “Moscow is the Third Rome” is a concept that has existed longer than your entire country. This is an objective fact. If you want, you can try to convince the monks from the 15th-16th centuries otherwise.

>>520510194
>Roam wuz defined by it's commitment to tha ortadox rite
>derefor we wuz Roam
Are you serious?

>>520506434 (OP)

we wuz empororz n shiet

>>520511348
>Either way neither Austrians or Bulgarians have even close to as much connection to Orthodox Christianity and the Byzantine Empire as Russia
нeгpyшa, what? You can read and praise god thanks to us. Your tsars are self-proclaimed, we received the imperial title from the emperor. It is absolutely true we aren't their successors and we have never claimed so, Rome (eastern) was our rival

>>520509228
>/POL/'s law, every time a Russian Gopnik faggot first replies to a thread, it will be the most laughably retarded take/person you'll read today.

>>520506771
Well the Ukrainian campaign is shaping to be their Đại Việt.

>>520506434 (OP)
chink cope. jesus

>>520506771
someone post the trump wrong gif please

>>520510194
Every time I feel like I'm retarded I just come here to find some delusional rusposter and I'm back on my feet

>>520509228
It will be the most hilarious video of the century when Moscow burns and Monke plays the violin.

>>520510194
we wuz romans n shiet

holy shit you snow niggers can't kill each other fast enough

>>520510194
The third Rome refers to the tsardom of Russia, not the Russian federation.
Rome as an empire/culture doesn't exist anymore.

>>520506918
Dont you eat polenta with milk

>>520513896
Hes augustus not nero

>>520506434 (OP)
More like the mongol empire

>>520511093
>third rome
>never owned rome
>never owned even Constatinople
>islamo mongol shithole
Yep it's obvious that puccia is the chosen one.. lmao

>>520511726
You would be Turks today if not for Russia.

>>520515079
I haven't denied that. It's quite long after the events we're discussing though, and has no bearing on whether they can call themselves 3rd Rome or tsars.

>>520506434 (OP)
Nihao we wuz Romanz

>>520514390
That's probably italo-american

>>520506434 (OP)
Since Rome fell, every single empire in Europe after it LARPed as the heir of Rome.
Barbarians seethe at us because they can't be us.

>>520509228
Ackhually, WE wuz Third Rome.
>>520515764
>Italian monkey thinks he Roman. Kek.

>>520509228
If only we hadn't conspired against Russia taking back Constantinople. Our prime minister then was dIsraeli...

>>520515971
If I don't care about the seething of Germans and Angols you can imagine how much I care about the seething of a Slavic-speaking Turko-Gypsy mutt that send his sisters to prostitute in Italy.

>>520506771
>saying that as if it is a bad thing
the golden horde and the mongols are far coller then the homosexual romans

>>520516412
You're a nation of gypsies. The gypsy subhumans feel right at home in the Italian peninsula. You can barely tell each other apart.

>>520506434 (OP)
Learn history. The last Eastern Roman princess married a Russian Tzar and thus Moscow has become the legitimate successor. Cope and seethe.

>>520516573
>You're a nation of gypsies
t. balkanoid
LOL! This low level of IQ makes me think that you aren't even a Bulgarian but some shitskin who crosse the Turkish border and is using a public WiFi from a clandestine immigrants center somewhere in the southern Bulgarian countryside.

>>520516884
>Eastern Roman princes
No such thing, Magomed. Rome ended when the city of Rome fell. The "East Roman Empire" was Greeks larping as Romans, the first wewuz of a long list.

>All legitimacy was carried over to Eastern Rome
>Orthodoxy is Eastern Rome, all Orthodox nations are Byzantine and Eastern Roman nation culturally (some more than others)
>Venetian jews destroy Constantinople irreversibly and the center of Orthodoxy moves away from there
>Muscovites marry some random Byzantine princess and being the only Orthodox power left since all the other Orthodox nations in the balkans were fighting for their lives between both muslims and catholic (((brothers)))
While any trace of Byzantine Russia died during communism, where they exterminated the priests and the orthodox noble aristocracy, The Holy Spirit works and will slowly turn more youth to its side, it's only natural
pic related biggest Orthodox Cathedral in the world just finished in Romania, atheists, jews and redditors will eternally rot in hell
Westoids always sought to bury Byzantine history and everything Orthodox so that people didn't learn that they are not Roman and have nothing in common with Romanity, only the delusions of the homosexuals popes, which you can all see where it ended up with pagan idols and faggots in the church
>>520515764 Calm down lombard/sicilian arab, the Spanish have the best claim to being romans out of all the westoids

>>520517050
“Byzantines” (EASTERN ROMANS) were Romans. You can’t deny this. Caracalla extended Citzenship to all free peoples in 212 AD. Eastern Rome WAS Rome.

>>520516964
You're off your estrogen pills, Pietro.

>>520517050
Romans were larping as Greeks in the first place. Cope.

>>520517070
Christianity is not Roman, it was one of the main cause of its end, the biggest Jewish trick in history. Your country still tries to LARP even with its name but no one ever considered you.
>sicilian arab
Another Gypsy like him >>520517411 talking shit about better peoples... still you come here in millions.

>>520517466
Romans never LARPed as Greeks, they were just influenced by them , it's not the same.
Amd the Eastern Empire was not Roman... I mean, it not even included Rome in its territory! If there isn't Rome in your land you can't claim to be a Roman land, just a former one.

>>520516573
Based Bullgarian knowing, all Italians i have ever seen are literally darker than the subhuman gypsies we have here in pseudo slavery, trully all the Romans left for HISPANIA or the East

>>520517643
>>520517844
More Roman than you ;)

>>520517850
New copes for old seethings. Pathetic.
At least you didn't claim they left for Roma-nia.

>>520506434 (OP)
That AI pic is weird but this isn't a new thing. See >>520509228

>>520517844
The foundation myth of Rome literally says they wuz Troyanz an shiet who escaped the fall of Troy.

>>520517643
The Eastern Roman "weaklings" only had an empire for 1100 years after Constantine and Theodosius btfo'd italian shitskins, Orthodoxy was the glue that held all together until the last emperor converted to catholicism , only then the city fell lmao
I'm sure you miss your lgbtq chad pagan emperors like elegabulus or whatever the fuck his name was, the ones with tranny wifes, making you wonder the romans converted willingly after Christ granted the believers Strength

>>520517885
>a pic that shows normal White people with dark beards and a Jeeta being ironic in the comments.
This is the best the leftists can do.
And don't force me to start cherrypicking photos of Bulgarians and Romanians because you can't win even if you post Di Maio.

>>520506434 (OP)
Based Roman Yakut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KOCkjEjFhw

>>520518091
That as later mythology. The Romans descend from Italic tribes and it was very well known among them... they called the Magna Grecia Greeks they found in Italy "graeculi" in a dispregiative way, not exactly they wouldn't have larped as them.
>>520518139
>Jew-worshipper
Typical.
Their empire could have lasted even 4000 years but still it wasn't Roman.
And Eliogabalus was a Middle Eastern monotheist like your rabbi Yoshua.

>>520518423
the Roman elites spoke Greek as a status symbol, you rat

>>520518769
they spoke greek to learn clasicla plays and knowledge, greekification happend after justinian I after him it turned from eastern roman empire to the byzantine he whas the first roman emperor to wear a crown

>>520518423
Sorry to inform you, but Justinian made the law so that trannies and pedophiles were castrated and dragged by chariot around the city
Christ and Orthodoxy is the antithesies of talmudic judaism, jews still await for their messiash to come with a sword in had to deliver this world to them (the antiChrist) , Christ eternally condemned jews to hell since they reject Him, jews were not allowed in Byzantines cities, they only entered them when muslims took them over but since your only notion of history is poltard CIA parables, not much can be done to educate you
Constantine and Theodosius won, your pagan tranny emperors lost, the last pagan with true Virtue was Aurelian(a thracian)

>>520518769
Not true, my nomadic jeetoid. The truth is that even the ones who conquered Italy after Rome (Goths, Longobards, Normans, Franks etc) immediately replaced their original languages with Latin and in very few generations they were assimilated to Latins and not the opposite like it usually happens (just look at Britain where the Germanics replaces the language and the culture of the Celts they conquered).
That's why my country still carries the names of the Italics and your country carries the name of a Turkic horde.

>>520519222
Pagan emperors exterminated millions of Kikes, destroyed Israel and expelled the few survivors from it. No Christian king went close to this, not even by far.
Christ was a Kike and it's written right in the Bible, it's not the conspiracy theory of an anon on 4chan.

>>520519222
justinian fucked over the empire by making it rely on strong emperors, so if there whas a weak emperor the empire whas fucked

>>520519401
zeno did alot to jews and samaritans in palestine, he killed so kany that christians became the majority

>>520519401
Those pagan emperors did the Will of God as was foretold ironically, they only destroyed Israel and killed kikes because of pragmatic and political reasons since they rose up against them, never ideological ones, they only had the resources to do this while others didn't
Even so, like i told you, jews were NEVER allowed in Byzantines cities, look how the kikes celebrated when the Persians took over Jerusalem during the wars with Heraclius, only to be genocided by Heraclius after
Plenty of Orthodox kings pogromed kikes to the point that there to many to name
Meanwhile your model emperor Julian literally wanted to rebuild the third temple for jews but was denied by God when fire started at the construction site
You are a literal retard with 0 understanding of history or Christianity

>>520515471
nice hat

>>520519229
if you weren't illiterate you would know the same happened to language here. You were born where Italics were once born, you have as much in common with the Roman empire as I have with Bulgars in Crimea

>>520517885
>bocchi
:-(

>>520506434 (OP)
It's happening again.

>>520509357
Careful, they'll bite your dick off. Don't ask me how I know.

>>520506434 (OP)
Ok that's cool and all, but the USA is 4th Rome as you can see by our Roman-style Senate and Consul government. We did rename the Consul to President since it is easier to say in American. We even have a little vassal swarm all around Europe like 1st Rome did.

>>520519728
Copes, copes... and bad ones I add.
Christian rulers always just expelled Jews or executed a little bunch of them for some crime they committed. The Pagan emperors did the will of their Gods, the only true European gods.
Kikes hate Christians and Muslims, this is true, but still they created their religions and use them as their weapons: you won't drink the poison you made, no? But still you like it when you use it against your enemies.
>>520519831
Not exactly, Turkic hordes conquered your land and gave it their name that it stull carries today, even if you speak Slavic (that wasn't the original language of the land anyways) while Italic inhabitated Italy since the beginning and never left. I mostly descend from the Italics, you (hopefully) don't descend from the Asian Bulgars.

>>520515642
Italian Americans don't know what polenta is.

>>520517070
Stfu christcuck, kill yourself to join your kike god faster

>>520520503
You are the successor to Republican Rome, at least that is what your founders tried, you currently awaiting you Sulla to come in and cleanse the swamp, which will be some disgruntled glowie or general probably
Even Caesar was on good terms with the kikes, Pompey and the Senate being against them at the time, so who knows how the mutts will chimp out against their current kike overlords

>>520509228
Then you killed everyone and every thing that connected you to it, had a multi-decade chimpout that made anything resembling "maybe we should care about our people instead of the bank accounts of Jewish bankers" instantly impossible to discuss, and then threw that government in the trash to become a kleptocracy subservient to Jewish oligarchs to such a sickening degree that even Americans blush.

>>520520663
Christ and the Bible states clearly, several times, that kikes are going to hell and they are satan's people, while the only way to Heaven is through Christ, which is what jews and atheists reject, jews saying in their talmud that Christ rots in hell and Mary is a whore, if i created a new religion for the goyim, i wouldn't be so obvious about hating their God, logically right, retard?
The Pagan emperors did whatever the fuck they wanted, it would be like Trump turning on Israel and killing them because they mistreated Ivanka or some shit, pragmatic reason, not ideological(you know , like the reason why jews were treated as demons until the goyim lost faith in God, at least in the west)
Even Evola, the only recent pagan philosopher with a brain, loved Romanian Orthodox fascism, your sicilian blood is making your iq too low to understand history and its trajectory
>>520520764
found the redditor from r/rrromania, how many tears have you shed this week, especially with all the Legionnary fascist songs in the monastery?

>>520521150
I would unironically make it into a strip bar instead of being a church all christcuck deserve to be gassed

>>520521150
>Christ and the Bible states clearly...
Muh Jewish fairytales book said...
>that kikes are going to hell and they are satan's people
"salvation is from the Jews"
t. Jesus (John 4:22)
>pragmatic reason, not ideological
Romans always despised the Jews for what they were, just read some description of them they made
>loved Romanian Orthodox fascism
Because it was Fascism, not because they worshipped a nailed rabbi
>your sicilian blood
Nothing bad in Sicilians (normal South Europeans) but Im not from that island, I'm from the central Appennine mountains in a region that doesn't have a Jewish community (but a lot of Romanians that was at least now tamed).

>>520521150
Gypsy from Romania
>>520521350
Ethnic White Romanian

Learn the difference anons, it could save your life (and wallet).

>>520520764
someone's mad! Christ is the Lord

>>520514506
Don't compare the best emperor with that kikeoid

>>520521798
You are the same italian retard that comes up in every thread about anything remotely Byzantine, we crossed paths before and seeing as you are retarded it's pointless to go on politically so i will go a different route
How much can you bench, can you physically fight and can you survive hiking in the mountains , sleeping in the cold peaks? Surely a pagan roman could handle these, genuinely curious

>>520522342
Of the jews yes

>>520506771
>Russians are the heirs of the golden horde
And that's why after overthrowing mongol yoke, Ivan the Great married last Byzantine emperor's niece, took the title Tsar and even adopted Byzantine name for Rus'. Let alone preserving Orthodox Church. Because wanted to be heir to the Horde...
And btw, where's Mongol or Tatar for that matter Y-DNA? It would be imprinted. But instead it's typical eastern Euro haplos, aside from some N from Uralics.

>>520506434 (OP)
they're orthodox christians like byzantium

>>520522406
I'm not who you say, it's just a common idea among Italians, even more among anti-
christian ones, there are multiple Italians on Pol that think the same as me about Byzantines.
A Pagan is not forced to live in extreme situations but because I like nature and survival I can do someof these things too.

>>520506434 (OP)
>India-tier delusions
Russia is a giant whorehouse owned by the Rotenberg brothers and chabad lubavitch.

>>520522946
They took all the names and denominations, but they still have our old customs and our traditional feudal style of government. It's just hilarious to see westoids thinking they're indeed not larping. And yes you're a westoid to me.

>>520506434 (OP)
IVAN THE GREAT married Sophia (Zoe) Palaiologina (l. c. 1449-1503), the niece of the last Byzantine emperor, Constantine XI (r. 1449-1453). Their wedding in 1472 was a lavish affair that was said to have rivalled the grand weddings of the Byzantine Empire.
The Russian people viewed the wedding of Ivan III and Sophia Palaiologina as a sign that the Russian Orthodox Church was the successor of the Greek Orthodox Church. His new wife inspired Ivan III to make changes that would impact Russia for hundreds of years. Ivan III would use the double-headed eagle, originally seen in the Byzantine Empire, as Russia's coat of arms. He also implemented Byzantine ceremonial traditions in his own court.

>>520517050
you are retarded now

>>520506434 (OP)
It was through Byzantium and the Eastern Orthodox church. Russia tries to we-wuz Third Rome n'sheeit through that somehow.

Why is NAFO shitting their pants over shit everyone with even a basic interest in history already knew about?

>>520514724
Wut is this?

>>520506434 (OP)
>What political measure was taken
it's called russian moonshine (contaminated with methanol)

but in all seriousness footwraps love to larp as an empire and try to find any connection with ancient ones. This laughable (for anyone with common sense) "russia is a third Rome!!!1!111!!one!!" is a common myth there as they desperately try to hide the fact that they are just a bunch of Mongol rape babies and that Kyiv is the older and more important city than Moscow (for both history of russian speaking countries and their orthodox christianity). I'd say there's only one bigger, more pushed lie there: that they single-handedly saved everyone from fascism during WWII lol

>>520526939
>kyiv
It's kieieiiieiieieieeiiejieeieieiev

>>520509228
the normies will never understand how impressive it is for a country like Russia to exist in the 21st century. C HAMИ БOГ!!!!

>>520525281
You will never be a Roman, Alaudin Churkinov.

>>520527764
>s nami bog!
>mostly gets uninhabitable tundra

>>520506434 (OP)
Remember that brief period under Emperor Trajan where the portion between the Black sea and Caspian sea where under Roman control, and then Russian control like 1800 years later?
Moscow the center of the "northern" Roman empire confirmed

>>520506434 (OP)
Russia is a copy of Byzantine/Rome.
Literally copy.

Chengis khan over here we wuzzing Rome

After Byzantine Empire fell to t*rks, Russia assumed its' former position as the last relevant Orthodox country. Greeks tacitly went along with the claim as long as it meant they keep getting those sweet Imperial gibs.