Thread 520791543

Can /pol/ rationalize why they think Sam Harris is "bad" without just referring to his ethnic background?

I just had this clip pop up in my recommendations and agreed with pretty much everything he said here:
https://youtu.be/y4iShNoJJLc

>>520791543 (OP)
why are jews promoting Christianity so fervently?

>>520791543 (OP)
>without just referring to his ethnic background?

No. I'd rather not.

>>520791601
Watch the clip. He's very much not.

>>520791601
He realized that without Christians, both he and his subversive Jewish DNA will be violently thrown out of America for being the enemy of all humankind.

He is what the Bible warns about never letting them get any power, and says to move them into barns and set fire to their homes.

You didn't do that, and so now you get to realize why this directive isn't a trifle, it's to protect you from them.

He is literally telling white people to go back to church and believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah and the Trinity.

>sam harris
babbys first pseudo-intellectual

>>520791543 (OP)
idk who this homo is?

>>520791601
because they want the men of the cloth to keep preaching a false version of Christiany so people aren't Christians but Zionist cultists.

>>520791753
>He is literally telling white people to go back to church and believe in Jesus Christ as Messiah and the Trinity.
He literally bashes all of the Abrahamic religions in that clip, you fucking liar.

>>520791772
I'm not claiming he's the end all, be all.

>>520791823
It really doesn't matter what homos say.

>>520791543 (OP)
>invading
you invited them in faggot
stop lying

>>520791902
He's not gay either. Why the fuck is this board like this?

>>520791920
Sam Harris the individual human being personally invited those millions of Muslims in? Are you high?

>>520791930
the core of his argument is based on a false premise
and a denial of reality
you can fuck off now
he probably takes dick in the ass too

>>520791543 (OP)
His entire argument is how enjoying privilege should allow him to destroy anyone who bothers him.

The question is why do we even know his name? compared to all the white thinkers on X, for example. Why is Sam Harris known by his name? Why do Jewish "intellectuals" always become household names? meanwhile White intellectuals get shadowbanned and terminated

>>520791983
sam harris belongs to a group, and that group invited them and made it possible

>>520791991
>the core of his argument is based on a false premise
>and a denial of reality
Elaborate

>religion is superstition, just meditate and believe in The Science™
I mean ok sure but that's not exactly a profound or novel take

>>520792018
i already supplied more than enough info
in my posts considering the context of the video
that you can deduce my meaning, considering that you are high iq

>>520792015
So you believe in collective guilt now? So nonwhites are right to hate you for the sins of your ancestors?

*aaah jooo* *aaah jooo*
Sorry. Must be allergic to something.

>>520792081
i believe in collective responsibility
not fiction

Stopped giving a h*ck about him after he got consumed by and lost his mind over politics. He isn't for it, and never was. Stick to neuroscience and surface-level meditation. A shame politics robs so many otherwise decent people, complete fucking waste of time when you're that deep and have already established something else.

>>520792065
All you alluded to was that Jews are responsible for Muslim immigration, which is irrelevant to anything he said even if it's true
>>520792013
All the "white thinkers" on X are just edgelord teenagers whining about minorities
>>520792155
you're a coping hypocritical loser

>>520792240
>loser
category error
guess i was wrong about your iq

As an Atheist
( i hate what the movement turned into )

Religion is a vehicle that carries culture. It turns out that if we destroy (de-constructing and re-constructing) this vehicle it lets loose a lot of horrible stuff that we might just call evil.

for better and worse (i'm from finland) christianity was the vessel that carried forward most of our traditions into the modern times. look, even "christmas" isn't even christmas here. it's just joulu. we don't give a shit about jebus, it's about giving back to the community during the darkest and coldest of all times, because we don't want to find out that the neighbor just died because of exposure.

also i barely ever post here and the captcha is why this fucking site dies

>>520792065
spirits [read: ghosts] and talking snakes aren't real, idiot

>>520792401
do you wish to supply an argument?

>>520791543 (OP)

He is a faggot, and his word are a salad. And since he is a kike, we can't believe anything he says. So might be true, some might be a lie. Some might be subversive. Either way, won't listen or give heed to anything coming out of a mouth that sucks assjuiced cocks.

>>520791543 (OP)
He's a jew
>nooo thats against the thread rules
dont care, TKD

>>520792341
>It turns out that if we destroy (de-constructing and re-constructing) this vehicle
White people have been naturally turning away from Christianity for hundreds of years despite what any copers on here will say. It's actually the opposite happening where people are trying to meme an unnatural Christian revival into existence and lots of people are just pretending to believe in it for political reasons

>>520792341
(also completely oblivious to the insane amount of Evil said religions also cause)

>>520792496
>He is a faggot
He's married to a woman and has 2 kids. Why do you retards think he's gay? Are you mixing him up with Douglas Murray?
>and his word are a salad
He seems to speak directly and concisely. He's not doing the Ben Shapiro 1000 words a minute thing.

>>520792098
hehe, it's the Jews!

>>520792463
I don't have to, I'm not the one making the claim.
justified and verifiable true beliefs about reality need evidence - provide it.
otherwise, I could ask you to provide an argument to counter my similarly baseless claim:
>the antithesis to all of your positions and the thing that proves your a big fuckong moron retard forever lies just beyond the edge of our solar system and it's invisible to anyone who I don't like
lmao

>>520793088
what?

>>520791543 (OP)
He thinks israel is ok even though its a religious-based supremacist state and he claims to be an "Atheist rationalist", he is a fraud.

>>520792797
There are plenty of things about sam that aren't perfect, and there are plenty of reasons to disagree with him, but you almost certainly won't be able to have an intelligent discussion about him or his views on 4chan - this place is infested with redneck idiots and kids these days.

4chan has literally been niggerfied, like the majority of the USA, and the younger generations fr yo finna

See, just look at this absolute burgerbrain spoon-licker:
>>520793256

>>520793384
he is a tribalist, like everyone else
now lets abolish all pretense so we can advance as a race

>>520793414
nigger i am not reading your screed of impotent screeching

>>520793483
Yeah you don't read at all.

I used to be a big fan of Sam Harris, read most of his books, did the meditation app etc, but during COVID he did a podcast where he was advocating for the vaccine and essentially calling anyone who didnt take it a shameful retard, and it was at that point that I dropped him.

I shudder to imagine how he rationalizes what Israel is doing but I know that Sam Harris is not an atheist - he is a jew.

>>520793384
He thinks it's okay for the Jews to defend their existence against barbarians who want to genocide them. He ostensible seems to be okay with Europe also taking steps to keep Islam out, so I don't see how he's being hypocritical there.

>>520793414
The posters on this board used to believe in things. Honor. Respect!

>>520793508
you aren't even the person im responding to, fuck off orbiter faggot

>>520793821
Welcome to 4chan, newfaggot.

>>520792747

religion is also community (ergo what you say)
community causes evil.
fuckers in the primarily secularist atheist community went forward with the idea that "de-constructing" christianity will bring forward a better society. it did not do that.

you cannot destroy your roots and maintain social cohesion. you can look at communist societies and make the comparisons. you need religion, even if you are an atheist, because the society at large needs stupid stuff to cling onto. they don't need to make sense. christmas, for example, is a fucking stupid holiday for no other culture than northerners.

WHY? because its about giving away during the coldest and darkest times, so that when spring comes your neighbor won't be DEAD.

>>520794001
>you cannot destroy your roots and maintain social cohesion.
That's literally what Christians did in the first place though

>>520793594
Thats not whats happening. Israel is murdering children en masse and Sam “Moral Accountability” Harris is over here implying that the events of October 7th somehow warrant turning tens of thousands of children into hamburger and tens of thousands more into amputees, and Sam’s more worried about how Israel will recover from its heinous acts on the global stage, which of course they will because theyre doing then intentionally, thumbing their nose to the world in the process. Absolutely sick.

What bothers me is how much I used to like Sam Harris, and I still do feel like I gained something of value in my life from his meditation stuff, but man was I idealistic regarding how actually “fair and unbiased” he really was.

>>520793663
No they didn't, this place is and always has been a crucible for forging ideas - pitting them against each other to see where the leaks are (no idea is perfect).

Unfortunately, normies now have access to the internet and the feds followed closely - these days we have to deal with an almost overwhelming level of "noise" on this channel.

>>520793821
ayo bruh
muh dick etc.
fuggawf oudda here boii

>>520794072
Youre on /pol/. You know that right? This is the shittiest board on the site behind /r9k/ and /b/

>>520791543 (OP)
He's a kike farthead.
Sam gobbles Zio-Sploooge & swallows.
Sam eats corn on the cob the long way
Sam is a hungry ass faggotass yid who cosplays as an intellectual.
Sam sucks a variety of things

>>520794219
I'm sure this quote didn't have any other context whatsoever

>>520794203
Go back COCK BREATH

>>520791543 (OP)
He's a hollywood nepo baby. His mom created "Golden Girls" and other degenerate tv shows in the 80's and 90's. He's only relevant because of his mother's connections.

>>520794064

but they failed
and they co-opted stuff like "joulu" and made it "christmas"

like i can tell you how we have two big things here in the north. the summer solstice and winter solstice and both are pretty much the same thing. "pagan" celebrations and christi anity could just not get rid of them.

>>520794359
Ive been on 4chan since before /pol/ existed faggot

>>520794379
/Thread

>>520791543 (OP)
sam harris is the og chad intellectual. so much respect fr

>>520791543 (OP)
jewish

>>520794203
hehe, this place is horrible!
hehe, why are we even here!
hehe, le everything and everyone sucks meme!

Your skin is turning the colour of normgroid, saar.

>>520794417
Alright, what's stopping us from just co-opting what they co-opted? (Re-opting? Re-co-opting? Ri-co-laaaaa?)

>>520794421
I've been alive forever
And I wrote the very first song

>>520791543 (OP)
I used to listen to his podcast and he said child sex dolls for pedos would help lower pedo child abuse rates. PragerU said something similar. You can make anything "logical" or an "intellectual" conversation if you want. Doesnt make it right. Jews are truly deranged.

He uses a lot of hypotheticals, which means he cant be honest. Brings up "dead children" in these hypotheticals. More than once lol
once on the trigger show and the 2nd time when he doubled down on covid.


He was much like Lex. Just out of nowhere gets popular for what? Being an atheist who did shrooms and went on Rogan?


His take on Jan.6 like was hilarious
"cops were being STABED IN THE FACE by flag polls"

No

>>520794421
Prove it splooge guzzler
Ofc you have ....
Old look anons... A fake oldfag...
fuck off back to stinky plebbit
Fake old faggotass .
top kek

>>520793594
but if europe defended themselves against the kikes bringing in the mudslimes and niggers he’d kvetch antisemitism. for someone that claims to be intelligent he should be able to sort the blatant lies of the holohoax, yet he stomps his foot like a faggot kike and screeches hitler holocaust all the time. he’s jewish, end of story

>>520791543 (OP)
He's jewish. That's enough reason to think he is bad

>>520791930
Sam Harris loves gay people. As in people who love penis in their asshole and mouth. Sam Harris loves the company of Yuval Harrari, Destiny, And that Murray guy which is why he interviews with them a lot. I wouldn't be surprised

>>520794560
Kek, you're so fucking lost bro
I even spelt everything wrong like you [read: a fatfuck] would, and it still worked perfectly lmao

>>520791543 (OP)
Um he's a fag and his shits all retarded

Really every argument he makes is so retarded its amazing
He just dismissed literally anything that does not mesh with his kike narrative

>>520794753
He said it like they were killed and wounded dumb nigger. Hes a dishonest kike

>>520794498
You can kiss my white ass, and believe you me that thing is white, but this board is objectively a shithole and youre whining about how you cant effectively navigate it. You cant discuss Sam Harris here anymore because he is passé at this point. No one cares about him and his veneer of credibility has worn so thin as to be basically nonexistent. Threads about him used to be more common but the few holdouts he once had here are now entirely gone. Grow up!

>>520794628
>the blatant lies of the holohoax
The holocaust denial narrative is dependent on a literal country-sized settlement of at least 3 million deported Jews being set up in Eastern Europe somewhere and then vanishing into thin air overnight, leaving no trace whatsoever. This alone is so ridiculously damning that multiple high-profile Holocaust deniers have given up denying it when forced to grapple with that lack of evidence.

>>520794823
you're a super faggot,
your shit is so retarded it makes newborn babies cry,
that's literally why they cry.
you're literally wrong about every single thing.

it's amazing you don't just be better for once and consneed.
you'll probably prove my point here by disagreeing with me or some other super faggot exercise.

Hehe, fucking idiot.

>>520795128
wow, you’re retarded. tell me about treblinka, this should be funny. you’re actually a jew, now it’s obvious. faggot kike

>>520791601
Christianity is the only thing that motivates tolerance of the jews. Without their faggoty skydad bullshit everyone will expel them from the country.

>>520794893
>it's everyone else's fault I have a knee-jerk reaction to misinterpret everything!
>it definitely doesn't have anything to do with my preconsneeded notions and low intelligence!
heh

>>520795255
>D E F L E C T I O N

>>520791543 (OP)
It is a jew, end of story.

>>520794932
thank you for your attention to this matter, magapedes!
signing off for now!
#tinyhandscheetoman

>>520794421
were you brown back then too?

>>520791543 (OP)
He’s an ultra liberal jew. He’s for white replacement explicitly

>>520791543 (OP)
He is a utilitarian and he refuses to grapple with the fact most people are retarded and half the smart ones are incurably not rationality driven and he is anti philosophy which just means ceding territory to critical theoruly and he punches right.

Haackian classical pragmatism is obviously correct and morality is obviously a mix of deontological and virtue ethics with periodic reassessments based on revealed consequences over time.

Utilitarianism is a denial of basic biology.

>>520795319
Show me the pics of the police with stab wounds from flag poles nigger

>>520795329
let’s talk about the holohoax, treblinka specifically you faggot kike. let’s hear the story

>>520794312
i wish youd posted this thread while i was at my computer. (im currently phone-posting.) i keep a document that reminds me why i dont like certain people, and theres a sam harris entry. it wouldn't really justify it to just try to summarize the points off the top of my head. ill give you a few things though:
he went full retard on trump. his bias is shocking for someone of his intellect. and there really is no other context that exonerates that dead children laptop quote. what do you think he meant by it? its quite clear--he thinks even if biden were a serial murderer of children, sam would still prefer biden to trump. thats insane. he views trump as this staggering evil, but ive listened to tens of hours of his views on trump and he has never given a tangible example thats especially compelling, let alone so compelling that it would place trump below the level of a serial child murderer. so any topic that relates to trump (ICE enforcement, tariffs, you name it) sam's brain goes into biased idiot mode and he says obviously wrong things. he does this to a lesser degree with jew and israel topics. he speaks reasonably about the state of racism (blacks arent oppressed victims), but cant for antisemitism. something like 40% of his guests are jews, and he loves to dwell on their catastrophizing views on antisemitism--in a country where jews are the wealthiest ethnic group and overrepresented 10x in all positions of power and influence.

>>520791601
you know exactly why

I mean he's so out of fashion. most people mock his philosophical takes about meta ethics, where he pretty much ignored 2000 years of knowledge and decided to state a well known problem wasn't really a problem, making a fool out of himself.

then there's the neuroscience LARP, some people exposed him as fake

then there's the annoying centrism, he's too liberal for conservatives, he's too rational and a chud for leftists (he dared to criticize islam, for example, not realizing the atheism larp is just an excuse for jews to attack christianity)

theres a really funny interview about race with him and some black comedian tho

>>520791543 (OP)

zoolander was alright but outside of that he's not been very funny

>>520796653
>I mean he's so out of fashion
you heard it here first, folx
some things just aren't, like, bussin'

>>520791543 (OP)
Sam is without God
Sam is without Soul
Yeah he’s bad.

>>520795132
Blonde is obviously a cutter that hides behind the tattoo

>>520796311
couple more points: notice how many of his guests write for the atlantic. another huge percentage write for the new york times. hes very siloed with his perspective and he should figure out that this keeps him from seeing the truth on countless issues, but he refuses to interact with people he doesnt like or who may bring a compelling case for a view he doesnt want to be valid. if he does have someone on whos right-leaning or muslim, its always some ultra-liberal adulterated version--like maajid nawaz or douglas murray. it smacks of having an agenda besides simply the truth to deny his platform to people who might sway his audience to some icky truth like fewer than a million jews died in the holocaust or a significant percentage of israelis exult in the deaths of palestinians. so he makes sure his non-jewish guests are shabbos goyim.
and one thing that really bothered me was at one of his live speaking events like ten years ago, a woman asked a question during the q&a portion and he gave a kind of shockingly flippant and disrespectful response, essentially telling her that he didnt want to answer the question. and so i went back to the VOD of the livestream the next day because i wanted to show this instance to my friend, and it had been edited out of the video. my view of him being an admirably ethical person changed after that.