Thread 520852751

And I'm tired of pretending they are.
Each family history goes back no farther than a few centuries (if they're important). We don't know who they are.

Stop calling them Jews. Stop worshiping mud people. The Talmud was invented over 300 years after Judea was purged and the Judeans died off in Persia by Magi as a challenge to a newly Christianized Rome. It was a psy-oop COLD WAR.
Now these mud people just committed a genocide with their mud vaccine and people are still arguing over their holy status.
Fuck you Adam Green. Fuck you Nick Feuntes. They are not Jews.

And to the "Jews" reading this, I'm doing you a huge favor. You don't need this drama. It's a generational mind virus that you can't escape even when you become atheist or buddhist or whatever. Heal yourself!

Were pharisees jews?

WHITE PEOPLE CAME FROM ISRAEL
AND JEWS FROM UKRAINE

>>520852751 (OP)
>The Talmud was invented over 300 years after Judea was purged and the Judeans died off in Persia by Magi as a challenge to a newly Christianized Rome. It was a psy-oop COLD WAR.
CORRECTION: The Talmud was invented by Magi in Persia after the Judeans died off.

Same thing with Islam most likely, a Mithriac Mago psy-op against Christian-Rome.

>>520852885
No, they were the sons of Cain-an, they were SEMITES

>>520852885
>Were pharisees jews?
They were at lest Judean citizens. But they died off too!

>>520852885
Idk, but another question would be how different were they really from any other legal body of that era. Rome had a senate. Greek city states had various kinds of legislative and judicial systems. The Pharisees were essentially the legislative branch — that's my understanding at least. So, do legislative branches have power? Of course. Do they have as much power as judicial (Sadducee, I think)? Not typically.

JUDEANS BECAME CHRISTIAN AND DIED OFF.

MAGI FROM PERSIA CREATED THE TALMUD WRITINGS. IT'S THAT OLD BLACK MAGICK!!!

>>520853249
>>520852978
>>520852885
Pharisees were teachers for the poor. They targeted the illiterate. Basically like preachers in the Wild West. But over time they developed a different tradition and began to challenge the actual religious BLOOD-LINE authority, the Levitt priesthood.

This is major reason for the conflict with Jesus as he was doing the same thing in a sense. Sadducees were rich Jews in bed with Rome, and closer to the royal family.

>>520852933
no

>>520852751 (OP)
Ashkenazi are european converts, every genetic test since the 1970s has confirmed this. Closest things to biblical descendants of judah are Samaritans and Palestinians who are a mix of israelites and syrians or arabs.

>>520852751 (OP)
Yes they are. Stop with the cope. The real jews are the slimy heebs destroying the west and living in israel. Jews are not actually germans or greeks or khazars any other bullshit.

>>520854104
The problem is there is no closest thing. The Judeans were slaughtered and scattered on purpose. The rest converted. By 130's AD they were gone.

Christianity didn't become popular for another 200 years. In the 200s an EL cult of a black rock took over Rome under the Severus Dynasty until was killed by the Roman Gaurds. So there was not a smooth transition. EL cults are older than the Bible.

>>520852751 (OP)
This line of argument doesn't get at the problem of legitimacy. If you claim they weren't judean, ok, you can go the racial line, but it always gets bogged down, like the jew in the first reply, with the pilpul about the english word jew, and wewuzzery, and so on. Have you considered something along the following lines:
>jews lost their covenent with God as a consequence of murdering Jesus.
>jews are not special, except as an especially cursed sinful people
>no one should listen to or ally with jews, because they are by nature against everyone

The hair splitting over pedigree may be valid, but it gives too much a dodge to jewish guilt by seeking to remove their status on the wrong grounds. The jews didn't lose the covenent and damn themselves merely because of being ugly, dishonest, or even race mixed niggers.

The jews are damned because they murdered Jesus Christ.

I hope you continue repudiating jewish sanctimony. God bless

>>520854274
>Yes they are. Stop with the cope.
The study you posted just means modern people have Middle Eastern ancestry.

In the Torah if you race mix your put to death and the children are not part of the tribe. The new Jews came out of Persia Babylon.

>>520854104
>every genetic test since the 1970s has confirmed this.
No genetic tests says that and even common sense would tell you that no one was converting to judism in christian europe.

>>520854274
A full acceptance and endorsement of the jew claims to racial lineage.

Here we go. Let's argue it out.

So the modern jew is the same as the ancient jew?

Therefore what?

>>520854402
>If you claim they weren't judean, ok, you can go the racial line, but it always gets bogged down, like the jew in the first reply, with the pilpul about the english word jew
But the bogging is always about if they still posses the covenant not if they are Jews or not. These people are Gypsies.
They're as Jewish as anyone in the Mediterranean can claim to be.


AND
NOBODY
TALKS
ABOUT
THIS

NO ONE! Not even the critics of Jews.

>>520854493
The study says their genetic linage is unbroken back to the time of abraham and of that region. Today's jews are the same jews as those of the bronze age. Hilariously most palestinians are just descendants of jews that converted to islam.

>>520852978
Canaanites are from Ham, actually. And ashkenazis are from Japheth, assuming you accept the bible account.

>>520852751 (OP)
TKD means every single one, every offshoot, all the types, all of their allies, all of their families.
No Esau Gambit bullshit. Total kike death.

>>520854740
Nigger Picard kinda looks like a skinny Mike Tyson kek

>>520854736
>Therefore what?
Therefor OPs is full of shit. You want to know why nu/pol/ is such trash now? Its because the majority of threads are just shilling head canon not backed up by and often directly contradicted any actual evidence and outright lies now. Time wasting cope about how the real hebrews are the irish or whatever serves what purpose exactly? This larp shit belongs on /x/. The worst thing that ever happened to antisemitism on /pol/ was letting mudshit brown animals in. Because they just turn legit criticism of jew in the here and now into a low iq farce.

the talmud is just bible study for jews

>>520852937
Elaborate

>>520854605
>no one was converting to judism in christian europe.
kek, catholicism didn't exist back then. This was probably after the bar kokhba revolt when the exiled "monarchs" (can they really be a monarch if their kingdom only lasted until the roman legions marched there?) sought help to retake the land. Obviously they went to war with everyone around them, expanding their borders, so they had to travel all the way north to the undefeated germanic tribes.

>>520855244
>Therefor OPs is full of shit. You want to know why nu/pol/ is such trash now? Its because the majority of threads are just shilling head canon not backed up by and often directly contradicted any actual evidence
The evidence is clear. They can't count their family history more than a couple of generations. We have no idea who these people are.

Saying they have middle eastern DNA doesn't mean shit. And this is old/pol/, because it's about history not Feuntes or BBC or Ukraine.

>>520855430
>catholicism didn't exist back then
Do you even know who let jews into germany to become the ashkenazis?
>>520855532
Yes the evidence is clear. You're wrong. DNA destroyed all these bizzaro 1800s theories. Just like it destroyed the idea that niggers are equal to humans.

>>520852751 (OP)
There's no such thing as a "Judean."
Semites are semites, jewish, arab or otherwise. DNA testing which proves that IQ is genetic and races are real also proves that the ancient jews were semites too. Stop trying to spread more lies, kike.

>>520855771
Judea existed as a roman province. Judean is a citizen of Judea. They're usually jews, the decadence of judah, david, etc that came back after slavery.

>>520855424
The author or the Koran was a boy that wrote down Mohammad's words because Mohammad was illiterate. Before the boy was his scribe, he was educated by the Magi (Parthian Mithraic Magi I think)... If Persia built the kingdom of Judea (Books of Ezra), and Magi created the cult of Sol Invictus in Rome and Roman Mirthraism, then maybe Persian Magi did black magick psy-ops (like Russia vs. America) by creating an anti-Roman cult "the Talmud" to rival the new Monotheism of Constantine...
After all in the Judean culture, Rabbis (teachers) did not have the authority to make laws or interpretations which is a really important point. Only the Priesthood could do that (Levi). It would be like the professors of a Catholic college in the 1400s AD taking over and kicking out the Vatican.

Black magic = ignorance spreading or darkening the mind with propaganda.

>>520855752
>Yes the evidence is clear. You're wrong. DNA destroyed all these bizzaro 1800s theories.
How? Because an Askenazi is related to some random woman in the middle east that is related to modern day Palestinians? How does this make you not gypsies?

You can find Italians or Turks with the same DNA.

>>520855771
>>520855926
>There's no such thing as a "Judean."
>Semites are semites,
There is no such thing as "Semite". These are the children of a guy name Shem on a magic boat tour. Prove to me Shem isn't a Jeet.

Also Judean is a Jew. I don't know where Steven Spielbergs blood line traces back to and neither does he.

>>520852751 (OP)
You're a judeo-parisian and it shows

>>520854740
The question of a covenant is a question of the bible's authority.

Jesus Christ states that the jews are about to lose their covenant in
>the parable of the Vinyard owner Mt 21:33-44, Mk 12:1-11, Lk 20:9-18.
>the parable of the Talents Mt 25:14-30, Lk 19:19-27
>the parable of the dishonest manager Lk 16:1-9
>the parable of the wedding feast Mt 22:1-14, Lk 14:16-24
>the parable of the new wineskins Mt 9:17, Mk 2:22, Lk 5:37-38

I'm not saying that you're wrong about pedigree. It just doesn't matter as much as that the jews today are imposters larping as an ancient people who were in league with satan.

In any case, the only people likely to care about pedigree are
>1 jews who will lie and bluster no matter what you say
>2 politically motivated church people who will lie and bluster bo matter what you say
>3 ignorant laymen who take the word of jews and church politicians who will dismiss and bluster no matter what you say

If you want to speak against the jews, and pursuade a regular person, or your parents, focusing on their crimes and, assuming the target audience professes Jesus Christ, striking a dichotomy between jewish sin, and Jesus clear injunction against jewish behavior. Pointing out the obvious that Jesus would not gun down palestinian kids goes a lot further than trying to hold down a boomer on why one race is better than another.

Just saying.

>>520856587
Show me your family history going back 2000 years right now!

Europeans family names are ancient and so is their blood. Same for East Asians, some Indians, and even Native Americans have family tribes that are hundreds of years old. Where is your proof gypsy that you're a Judean?

>>520856742
>The question of a covenant is a question of the bible's authority.
Yeah we get. We can watch Feuntes argue with Gavin McCinnes or any morons argue about this subject but that's not the thread subject.

Prove these people are not just gypsies! MIXED MULTITUDES.

>>520855244
So arguing race and pedigree is a waste of time and a rabbit hole.

Ok

The jews now are the same entity as the jews who lived in Jesus Christ's day.

Ok

Let's avoid the we wuz opiate.

Ok to that as well.

Now what?

>>520855752
>Do you even know who let jews into germany to become the ashkenazis?
Not sure if they were let in, but what do you think?
Because it went bar kokhba to ???? to modern jews in the 1600s.

>>520852751 (OP)
I just asked several AI and they all said that the Talmud is THE central tenet of Judaism. Kikes lie.

>>520852751 (OP)
>they're different subversive baby torturers
Okay and?

Rabbi Yeshua was a jew, admit it already

>>520857128
And they're worshiped for their pedigree. You understand that right?

Even people who hate them act like they're ancient and magic but they're fucking gypsies, mud mutts with not lineage. Mutts >>520856971

>>520855532
Even if the jews could trace back 1000 years, no one can trace back before bar kokba, because all the geneological records were burned. But aside from the affrontery of being lectured on the bible the devil worshipping imposters of revelation 2: and 3:9, what's the point of leading with the ethnic background argument? It isn't wrong, mind you, but what's the angle?

Only, it seems that most people are innoculated against questions of ancestery.

WHY DOES NOBODY MENTION THE FOLLOWING, OR EVER REPLY WHEN I MENTION:

THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL was 92% <<<NOT>>>> jews.

in other words.

Jews were only ONE of the 13 TRIBES OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL*

>TRIBE OF JUDAH
TRIBE OF JUDAH
>TRIBE OF JUDAH
TRIBE OF JUDAH
>TRIBE OF JUDAH
TRIBE OF JUDAH

The others became other nations*

This is not to say modern day jews are even related to the tribe of Judah

*According to the bible/old testament. Not that I believe it, but this fact destroys all of their claims, ESPECIALLY THE JEWISH ZIONISM PART.

>>520856883
They are gypsies. Now what do you do with the knowledge?

>>520857087
ask them about the central tenet of Yahwism. Lets see if it brings up baal.

>>520857526
>what do?
>onions smirk
destroy their claims to the holy land. done.

>>520857507
You're mistaking the zionist belief for one of historicity. People align with zionism because they are foolish, not because it makes sense.

>>520857330
Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.

Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution

Christianity has always been a racist religion:
>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]"
>"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"
- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusade

The racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.
The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkreuzbanner

Here's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult
Feel free to reply to this post with others.

Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:
- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/
israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:
- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U
- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A
The "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:
- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videos
Boycott israeli products:
- https://bdsmovement.net

Common glownigger talking points:
>"jesus is a kike"
The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
>"off topic"
Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.

>>520857330
>Rabbi Yeshua was a jew, admit it already
He was a priest, not a rabbi. There was a whole thing about that since jews can't be priest because that's the whatever of the other tribe and jesus was of royal king david blood by mary and heir by her cousin, and husband joesph. It was one of "laws" he broke that got him crucified.

>>520857418
>>520857526
>what's the point of leading with the ethnic background argument? It isn't wrong, mind you, but what's the angle?
Would you call someone from China an "anglo bastard!"? Would you consider the authority of a Romanian gypsy if they claimed to be the direct descendants of King Author and the Knights of the Round Table?

Is Kabbalah even Jewish? Who are these people? And why should Christian Zionists worship them like Nick Fuentes or Tucker or Putin?

Also >>520857589
>destroy their claims to the holy land. done.
See liberal Jews are now safe. Fuck you Ben Shapiro!

>>520857507
based, modern jews are not israelites they are imposters

>>520857839
>>520857507
>>520857690

>This is not to say modern day jews are even related to the tribe of Judah
That's EXACTLY what we're saying!

>>520857589
Ok. But the people who support them, and have power, i.e. the wealthy, politicians, they don't care about the truth.

Besides which, even if they did, the covenent with the jews has been over since Jesus went to the cross. So the discounting of the jews right to chase zionism based on pedigree alone would only leave the door open to some other band of larpers, and they would pick up where these jews left off. In fact, it would serve the ends of the Noahides to do so, since everyone would finally know they had the 'real israelites' in charge, and that it was ok to worship them.

Do you see the trajectory problem there?

>>520852751 (OP)
based. that wall they pray at is not their temple either. its the old roman fort. their temple was razed to the ground, no stop atop another. yet somehow they pray at a retaining wall bigger than the entire original temple complex. funny part is jews admitted this and it was well known among them until quite recently, then all of a sudden it became their holy temple site overnight mainly pushed by a bunch of atheists. thats another hilarious part, these kikes are atheists. netanyahoo doesnt even believe in god yet somehow can insist that god gave him the right to that land.

>>520858014
>If we don't worship modern lying mutts as the real Jews
>then some other BAD ACTORS will take over
>And they will enslave you to Noahide laws
>better keep the status quo
STFU Talmud. You're no more Jewish than an Eskimo.

>>520855424
rome adopted a greek universal single god religion and gave it trappings of judaism to help get the militant jews to convert to this docile religion and quite being such a pain in the roman ass. would have been better off just going with the greek gnosticism and burning all the jew writings and exterminating them like the romans did to the druids.

>>520857507
This is the trick here, they named the religion they practiced in the entire region as judaism. At the time of christ they called it "second temple judaism" Which doesn't make sense, because the different tribes practiced different stuff. So there is Jew be religion in the new testament, which large portion, even most of the pharasie, wasnt israelites, while jew means descendant of judah in the old testament.

>>520857816
You don't like the nomenclature, ok fine. The jews are all frauds, i agree.

>is the kabnalah jewish
Yes, but that doesn't make it right. The murder of Jesus Christ was jewish too.

>Who are they?
A bunch of imposters who use their assumed pedigree to trick gullible people

>why should christian zionists

That's your problem, your question assumes that christian zionists are anything but a cult. Christian zionism should be condemned as a heresy from the pulpit. That's the only way you will create a bulwark against jew worship.

>>520858200
You're getting rather impatient to see someone align with everything you say.

You will replace one Noahide trajectory with THE SAME THING, if you deal with the jewish issue incorrectly. It qon't be other people taking up the mantle, just new front men for the same ones doing it now, except you will have convinced the normies and idiots that it's ok to worship jews this time, and it isnt.

Only Jesus Christ has any right to recieve worship, not jews, not mary, not saints, not races.

>>520858406
>would have been better off just going with the greek gnosticism
Gnosticism was Alexandrian Judeans, another reason why they mixed out of existence. Also it was for the gays ;^) as a feminist goddess.

>>520858815
>You don't like the nomenclature, ok fine.
It's a fucking heriditary herald of social dominace in our society. It's not some nomenclature. They're the "CHOSEN PEOPLE".
Kabbalah appears in the Southern (ISLAMIC) Spain in the 13-1400s. It is not from Judeans. Gnosticism was though.


>Lets just keep the Jews we have OK?
No
>They're just be replaced
Maybe is 200 years... but not right away. Let's have a golden age first. I'm sick and I'm broke and I'm tired! We need a break

The NPCs do not know how to deal with this thread. They immidieantly fell back on what they k now:

>Was Jesus a Jew
>Was Catholics the real Jews
>Who gets the magic covenant
>Jewish DNA has Middle Eastern blood, that proves it!
>Was Israelites a Jew
Completely distracted and overwhelmed by the OP's subject.

>>520859200
>chosen people
Not anymore. And if you can't confront their status larp it won't make any difference how much you try to combat the racial one. No one that cares about the chosen meme will give a shit about their race, so who is your audience?

I didn't tell you to keep anybody.

And it won't take 200 years for the backers of the noahides to set up some new people to pretend to be jews, in fact their scam almost depends on it, as it gived them the pretext to save and empower jews.

But one thing that does confront them is preaching against judaism, jews, zionism, noahidism. Every scheme of the jews, and everything they are involved in are opposed to Jesus Christ, so the only thing that can oppose them back is Jesus Christ himself.

>>520853623
That makes sense. Was their tradition chosen to be a blueprint for the Talmud simply out of convenience then? My understanding is that (Talmudic) Judaism emerged at the same time Rome rewrote Christianity so that the territories east of Rome didn't become beholden to Roman propaganda, essentially. Baba Rabba spearheaded this. It's basically Middle Eastern Protestantism.

>>520857557
Yahweh has only got one Baal

>>520860027
>if you can't confront their status larp it won't make any difference how much you try to combat the racial one. No one that cares about the chosen meme will give a shit about their race, so who is your audience?
If Christians and Muslims realize they are fighting imposters their influence dies over night. Arguing about who the real Jews are dies over night. What is left who has the right's to the religion which I guess, you as a Christian, can easily make the claim without Christian Zionists and Muslims laughing in your face.

>And it won't take 200 years for the backers of the noahides to set up some new people to pretend to be jews
It will because you have to breed this psychosis for generations and then convince billions of people. It can't just be redone with a PR campaign from some Indians who are the new jews.

>We need to confront the Jews on the teachings of Jesus Christ!
We can't. They're not Jews so... They're free to convert now if they wish. No hard feelings

>>520852751 (OP)
they just listen to rabis who read talmud
(btw rabis are prohibited from reading talmut untill they are 40 y old)

>>520861036
They are talMUDS

>>520852751 (OP)
I denounce the Talmud and use it as toilet paper.

>>520860346
>That makes sense. Was their tradition chosen to be a blueprint for the Talmud simply out of convenience then?
They were not related. They had no authority because they were not Levitts. They were random dudes. So they had to put the authority into the Rabbi's hands. The Talmud means "teaching" so the teachers took over the religion. Because the religion was Christianity and Gnosticism now. They original Judeans saw Jupiter defeat El Yahwey and had to adjust.

>>520860875
Arguing against jews on the basis of the bible and what Jesus Christ taught, and being successful at it, of course, means putting jews and muslims back into the same corner where they were in the 700s. Which they already are, but it would bring nominalsists out of their camp, which means setting the stage for an altercation between christians and everyone else. This is inevitable, and the less traitors the christians have in their midst the better.

The form of christianity that muslims and jews hate is the only sort that is likely to be true, and the only means by which the White people will have any chance of stopping the racial onslaught. The White atheists/pagans will remain allied with the jews rather than affirm Jesus Christ, so their considerations are out. Sadly for them.

If the opposition to jews is made successful over racial disputes, you'll have scores of insecure White people pretending to be 'the real israel', and every other cringe larp angle you can imagine. In fact that happened in the 1800s over here with the Mormons, the Jehova's witnesses, and the 7th day adventists. All 3 took on israelist aspects to sell themselves to the rubes. The search for significance causes plenty of people to embrace judaism, who would otherwise have to deal with themselves honestly. No, it probably won't be the indians, that would be too close to the truth of the jewish origin, but it might, sadly, be White people who would declare themaelves 'the lost tribes', if it meant being special and above the law.

Again, i didn't say to confront jews with the bible. They would care the least of anyone, unless someone is strictly evangelizing them, in which case it would work very well, on a person by person basis.

The preaching against the jews would be aimed at christians, ultimately, but that's still roughly 2 billion people. Others might listen, but qithout the familiarity with the bible, and belief in it, i wouldn't expect much traction.

>>520862354
Well that might well in Africa but the majority of the world is not Christian warriors or even Christian. And the ones who are Christian are for convinance sake.

There is no reason to have ANOTHER complex biblical argument with Talmuds. It's like arguing with Chinese people about the origins of the US Constitution. Who cares what they think and they're always lying and they have no skin in the game. Same with Talmuds. They're just mix multitudes from a Magi psy-op.

THE TALMUDS STOLE THE JEWISH FAITH!


THE TALMUDS ARE GOLLUM OF THE MAGI!

>>520862607
I did not suggest arguing with jews. I suggested preaching to Chriwtians that under no circumstances can a Christian ever trust a jew, that they should never ally with a jew, and that they can never give cover or aid to a jew, and then deluge the listeners with reasons and argumwnts from the bible of why the jews are guilty of murdering Jesus Christ and.why therefore we cannot, and should not attempt to be friends. In the end it would isolate Christians from jewish influence, and help them to focus on rebuilding what ecuminical blindness and masonic subversion have seen go to rack and ruin.

>>520862995
You go ahead brother. Preach it in the synogogs. Meanwhile we're going to teach history and not call random gypy talmuds "Jews" or "Chosen" or "use be chosen".


Random muds have no right to other people's history.

>>520861881
Do you agree that they are still second class even today? The real power and wealth resides in sovereigns and former sovereigns who simply took their wealth to the private sector. Merovingians, Black Nobility, House of Marlborough, Club of Rome, Skull and Bones... these types.

>>520857945
i fucking know, dweeb. **MY** point is that even **if** it were true that they were related, the old JUDAH jews weren't even israel.

It would be like 2000 years from now, someone falsely claiming to be decedents of nanci pelosi claiming they have the right to ethnically cleanse the entire north american continent, simply because california was once part of the "HOUSE OF AMERICA"

Yawn
Jewish mitosis
Next thread

>>520863534
>Black Nobility
The Talmuds used their media to create a mythology around the BLACK FAMILY who swore to be protectors of the Pope himself, a family guard like the Swiss but more personal. They have no power. It's all black magic trickery from the Talmuds.
>Club of Rome
Talmuds offering Fabian Socialism to the rich and Communism to the poor, and Neo-Liberalism (Critical Theory Marxism) to the middle class.
>Illuminati (skull & bones included) were Talmuds infiltrating Freemasonry (Deism in America and Gnosticism in Europe/Islam).

I could go on but you're just mentioning famous families. This is boomer trash that even Alex Jones the Talmud slave have to give up on because people have grown wise. Nice try though.

>>520863872
IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER! NPC! They're not of anything. They're random fucking mutts who joined a religion from Persian Magi!

>>520863971
>Jewish mitosis
Not Jewish.... sorry. Talmuds are just mixed multitudes. wake up

Talmuds can't handle the truth.

>>520852751 (OP)
judeans left centuries ago

Is this the most controversial subject ever on /pol/? Anons are afraid to touch it and can barely comprehend.


>>520865566
1950 years ago the last Judeans were killed off by Rome in Carthage and Alexandria for one last revolt. The rest became Christian leadership and Gnostics.

>>520864087
Do you think the Talmuds are actually religious? Because from my understanding, the Talmud is more like an instruction manual. It would be like if a bunch of Chinese elite today traced their power back to having sole copies of Art of War or something. If their identity is fake, then why cling to the identity? What do they actually see as their identity?

>>520866455
>Do you think the Talmuds are actually religious? Because from my understanding, the Talmud is more like an instruction manual.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!

A Persian instruction manual to overthrow a newly Christian Rome. The entire this was a psy-op that just lasted too long.

>>520866763
Are these Persians the same Persians of 500 BC, more or less? Because Persians weren't Semitic, from my understanding. Actually, the entire category of "Semitic" seems made up. I just don't know what to replace it with in my head.

Also, please outline the basics of HOW the instruction manual works. My difficulty with fully swallowing this conspiracy theory is that the criticism tends to just turn personal instead of rigorous and methodical.

>>520852751 (OP)
>not the same race
>not the same practiced religion (rabbinical judaism is new)
>not the same language (spoken hebrew only as recently as 200 years ago as a LARP)
Post status: TRVKE

"Judaism" is a social construct.

>>520866122
The kikes and their jeetbots fear this and want to bury it. Its time to deconstruct "Judaism."

>>520867044
A Semite = child of Shem the son of Noah. So yeah it's made up. Persians were Scythians that mixed race with Babylonians and Amorites. But the high Persians were the normal caste system you see everyone in history
>white girls pretty and I marry them because I rich and important
= 1000 years later all the rich and important are bleached while the poor are brown.

>Also, please outline the basics of HOW the instruction manual works.
The entire Talmud is a reaction to the fall of the Judean peoples and religions they created. It's a critical theory that targets Christianity and Europe (Islam didn't exist yet).
The rest is mind control where the Professors (rabbis) dominate your daily life with a hundreds of laws about how to wipe your ass or mount your horse. It's actually very cruel to do to your children but it's generational abuse.
It's a lot like Communist writings
>control the workers and rule bureaucratically with an iron fist
=
HIVE MIND

>>520852751 (OP)
My 1 concern with this argument is that it will be used like,
>"Listen goy those evil PISSRAELIS were just greedy white people that needed to be put down or (at worst case) all need to move to the United States and Europe! The jews like rabbi Shmuley and Adam Sandler are our friends and they are the REAL jews!"
It feels like the jews or certainly the ones living outside of israel feel that their project in Palestine is over and want to pivot as things shift to the left after Trump's antics are over.
We need to be doing things like infiltrating the DSA and ensure that this pivot to the left winds up becoming a no guilt full on National Socialism movement and it could even start as a multiracial ally thing since the beaners know what's up anyway. Segregated National Socialism would actually work (I don't mean living side by side with niggers with Jim Crow bathrooms and water fountains, I mean total racial separation at the Nation level where we aren't required to subsidize the other races in any way shape or form. We may just trade with each other. Whites would come out HUGE in that arrangement. Only ones that wouldn't be allowed are kikes, and at this point we would be able to actually convince other races of that. My plan is TOO EZ and we need to do it.

>>520867142
>"Judaism" is a social construct.
That's actually correct.

>>520852751 (OP)
>Stop calling them Jews
No I don't think I will.

>>520867767
Now you're thinking

>>520867767
Well the "they're white people" argument is totally a Western Democrat narrative. Persians and Turks and even Iraqis I've met have no problem with being called white or white people in any inherited sense.

The Jews living outside of Israel can't even leave the fucking cult because of guys like pic. They keep them trapped with fear. So does Ben Shapiro by hiring anti-semites. It's a trap! As anon said >>520867252
>The kikes and their jeetbots fear this and want to bury it. Its time to deconstruct "Judaism."


NO ONE IS CHOSEN! EVERYONE IS A CHILD OF GOD!

>>520867965
>Israelites are modern Jews and that's why they're bad
> tee hee chad meme
>I'm an Adam Green fan
Yeah we know... But they're still Gypsy mud people and I'm still not obeying shills like Adam who say Matthew North killed himself or that the Israeli vax is safe and effective.

>>520852751 (OP)
Judaism is a religion that is only a race when it's convenient for them to be one, and we're in a period where the latter is an uncomfortable truth. The important thing is that the modern Jews follow the religion of the tribe of Judea, while the Palestinians who are genetically closest to historical Jews do not, therefore they do not get Jewland.

>>520867965
Your meme you kikes made leaves out the actual chad IQ position: none of the historical groups or people in the Bible, such as the Israelites and Jesus, were jews
You kikes fear that position so much you pretend it doesn't even exist kek

It's the one and only side kikes never play

>>520867750
I think I'm starting to get it.

Talmud: the basis for a culture that specializes in word magic. Makes great lawyers, salesmen, and such. However, at an even more fundamental level, the weaponized dialectic has the power to make people NOT believe things as much as it makes them believe. If you can make people not believe things, then you can take away their motivation, their tradition, their glue. Also, banks are really just skilled contract writers, so banking is like lawyering directed directly at customers as opposed to judges.

Middle Ages: economy dominated by land holdings and profitability of land. Land is easily confiscated and controlled by nobility, and it's won through war. There is space for the lawyer, the salesman, etc, but he exists on the fringe and is always vulnerable to physical force. Surely the Talmuds hired muscle by this point (maybe you can fill me in on this) and probably hid their wealth away in places (I assume Venice was Talmudic?).

Start of the 1600s: The corporation and joint stock company was the key innovation for everything that came after. This was privatized sovereignty. I used to think that this was just when sovereign wealth went private, but now I'm thinking what actually happened is that private wealth for the first time had the capacity to act in a more sovereign like manner. This was because it could grow much faster by attracting investment, and then these investors were effectively "in on the conspiracy" at least to the extent that they were willing to do what the company told them to do. Suddenly, you have salesmen pulling the old elite around by the nose, telling them war in x country is good because then they can sell product y to them, and then do arbitrage with it back at home. It's a bad deal for everyone but the company, but the greed of the initial investors fueled the fire.

This is all capitalism is, by the way. It's got nothing to do with "private ownership". It's joint stock companies and markets.

>>520868423
You must disagree because you rape kids like your precious israelites from your sacred torah.

>>520868789
See >>520868900

>>520868696
>The important thing is that the modern Jews follow the religion of the tribe of Judea
NO they follow the Talmud and have no relatives from Judea because we don't know who they are.

>>520868900
TalMUD man mad? You don't have to be a hateful pervert you know? It's not your history or legacy. You have no history or legacy. You're fresh and new.

>>520869135
>It's not your history or legacy
Thanks for the compliment. I denounce the talmud, torah, and tanakh. Can you?

>>520864219
do you not even know how debate works? the thing i'm pointing out completely invalidates all (((their))) arguments, moral or otherwise. of fucking course i know what they really are. why are you being so fucking dumb, klaus

>>520852751 (OP)
i'm a simple goy, if you rape kids in tunnels, i dont like you

>>520867750
Another observation:

One of the groups that I first got interested in with conspiracy theories was the LaRouche organization. There is definitely some good stuff that they produced, but I've realized how sterile their ideology actually is. They're obsessed with "creativity", and they criticized the Frankfurt School for comparing intellectual creativity with sexual energy. This was Marcuse who said the erotic instinct was the fundamental cause of creativity, not play.

I bought this at the time, but I've now come to appreciate what I think you'd call tantra — various ways of working with energy, including sexual pathways. Now, I actually think Marcuse was kind of right, and the idea of purely naive play is sterile. It actually reminds me of something from Rome.

That's the overall pattern: the idea of sterility vs virility in philosophy. Sterile ideas can sound good, but only virile ones really win.

Ironically again, it seems as though the Talmuds are only capable of virility when it comes to their specialties because they don't have the physicality that warrior cultures have. The Talmuds seem very stale on the surface, which might lead some people to underestimate them.

I'd like a deeper understanding of their machiavellian philosophy and how they control minds.

>>520868883
>Talmud: the basis for a culture that specializes in word magic. Makes great lawyers, salesmen, and such
>makes great pipull masters of argument and legality that criticize beliefs and demoralize laws, institutions, and cultures.

>dominates land through evil sales techniques and banking scams

>unites greedy and criminal minds through join investments, selling the ways of the Talmud and their black magick of "KILL ROME -- WAR IS PROFIT -- BLACK IS WHITE!"

I dumbed it down but yes this is correct! History unfolds once you realize it's not a magical continuous "UNSTOPPABLE" people but a Magi gollum horde with a virus.

>>520868789
Nu-christians get weirdly defensive about ancient jews. Why does it trigger you so badly when people say jews have been genociding goyim and raping kids for thousands of years?
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE A LYING KIKE, JEWS HAVE ONLY BEEN DOING THAT FOR 1500 YEARS
Nothing more jewish than trying to jew us down on how long jews have been bad kek.

>>520868930
>>520868900
>the kike that randomly accuses everyone else of its child rape crimes has arrived
Haven't seen this kike rat in a while kek
>>520869201
> I denounce the talmud,
You're lying
Kikes always start to randomly denounce (lie) when they have not been challenged once goyim start to notice they're kikes
It's part of the tel aviv handbook at this point

>>520869526
So you do rape kids like the israelites (ancient jews). Thanks for the admission.

>>520852751 (OP)
Our story begins in the 6th century B.C., after the Babylonian conquest of Judah in 586 B.C.. Following the destruction of Jerusalem, the Edomites were displaced from their homeland by the Nabataeans and took advantage of the depopulation of Judah’s southern lands. They migrated north into these former Judean territories, where they established the region of Idumea.

Over the following centuries, Idumea developed as a distinct territory centered on Hebron and Mareshah, inhabited by a mixed population of Edomites, Arabs, and Judeans. Cultural and linguistic exchange deepened the ties between Idumea and Judah, even as the political boundary between them grew increasingly fluid.

By the 2nd century B.C., this proximity turned to conflict during the Maccabean Revolt, when Idumea’s fortified cities posed a threat to Judea’s southern frontier. In 163 B.C., Judas Maccabeus invaded Idumea, captured Hebron, and subdued the region, marking the first major step toward Idumea’s integration into the expanding Hasmonean Jewish state.

By 125 B.C., under the rule of John Hyrcanus I, the Idumeans were fully integrated into Judah through conquest and conversion, becoming an inseparable part of the Jewish nation.

>Why does any of this matter?

The rise & prominence of the Pharisees is directly tied to the Idumeans and their influence on the Judeans.

"The Pharisees said to Jesus, "We are Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man" (John 8:33). Yet, Israelites, who are Abraham's seed, had a long history of bondage in Egypt, Assyria and Babylon. Therefore, the Pharisees were the other branch of Abraham's seed in Palestine at the time -- EDOMITES. Christ called the Pharisees and Saduccees "a wicked and adulterous generation.""

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>>520869401
>Ironically again, it seems as though the Talmuds are only capable of virility when it comes to their specialties because they don't have the physicality that warrior cultures have. The Talmuds seem very stale on the surface, which might lead some people to underestimate them.
Forgot to add...
Their ideology is very virile when it comes to obtaining power in a system of legal protections, but they are sterile not just in a physical context but even in any other dimension of self-improvement. They seem to largely lack the tantra, except the revival of kabbalah has tried to correct this. But because they didn't do it for the right reasons, even the kabbalistic Talmuds are tainted.

>>520869633
>>520852751 (OP)
>Okay who are the Edomite Pharisees? How does this all affect us today?

They are the Phoenician Canaanites. Their religion (which HEAVILY influenced Greco-Roman Paganism) is itself a direct descendant of the Bronze Age Mesopotamian religion.

The Phoenician religion is a direct heir to the Bronze Age Near Eastern religious system.

The Vedic and Norse systems are collateral relatives, they didn’t borrow from the Phoenicians, but from the same ancient source that also gave rise to the Canaanite world.

The Greco-Roman religions are hybrid descendants, Indo-European in structure, but Phoenician-Levantine in iconography and mythic tone.

tl;dr - In essence, all religion is rooted IN THE SAME REBELLION against our God, Yahweh. Part of this rebellion infiltrated and became part of the Israelite religion, of which Jesus Christ condemned. Every non-Christian is essentially of the Devil until being rescued by Jesus Christ.

There is no difference between ANY of these Pagan religions, as they all have the same origin of spiritual rebellion against the One, True, Triune Living God, Yahweh.

tl;dr for the non-Christian - your pagan/atheist religions are the same as the Edomite Canaanite religions.

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>>520869524
They're fake anti-semites pushing the biggest controlled opposition psyops ever concocted. Almost every last faggot here shilling christianity also seethes if you don't vote republican.

>>520869303
>the thing i'm pointing out completely invalidates all (((their))) arguments, moral or otherwise.
You're argument has already been done and it excludes Christians. It's not worth it because it's too complex anyways. Israelites may or may not even existed. Atheists wont get down with that shit.

It doesn't even matter. They're not related to the bible people. They're Talmuds.

>>520869633
>>520869674
>Our story begins in the 6th century B.C
NO in 400AD because that's when the mixed peoples of the Talmuds appeared out of Babylon Persia and move West. The rest you mentioned are just a different people and religion lost to history. Sorry. Not the subject matter here today.


Talmuds have no heritage.

>>520852751 (OP)
>Oy vey it was actually horseniggers from the steppe that raped your kids not us wholesome Semites despite the fact that every Semitic religion includes child sacrifice as a rite, even the temporally and spatially "sequestered" Carthaginians
I don't give a shit, they're Jews, and the "real" Jews were still up to the usual Semitic tricks even by their own accounts. The hair-splitting and petty in-group squabbling is ultimately irrelevant.

>>520852933
The old /pol/ CI classic

>>520869972
>don't give a shit, they're Jews
No Jews are gone. They're Talmuds of mixed race.

>>520869524
>ancient jews
>>520869616
>(ancient jews).

>>520869524
>raping kids for thousands of years?
>>520869616
>do rape kids like

Above is the same kike it always posts under at least 2 samefag IDs in these threads to pad its consensus cracking failures
She'll reset her router or some other kike trickery and reply with a 3rd ID
Watch...

>israelites (ancient jews).
Nope

>>520869733
>fake anti-semites
I wouldn't even call them that since they insist jews aren't semites. If anything they're pro-semite
>>520870055
>triggering intensifies
Get a bigger dilator, freak.

>>520854104
Cope harder, Moishe

>>520868423
>Israelites are modern Jews and that's why they're bad
Yes, doing the same shit the "ancient Israelites" did is why Jews are bad. Even if you're right that they're an unrelated people they behave the same which is what matters

>>520869908
Incorrect, here is the chatGPT response:

The Pharisees were one of several Jewish sects in the late Second Temple period (alongside the Sadducees, Essenes, and others).

They emphasized the Oral Law (the Torah she-beʿal peh) as a divinely inspired complement to the Written Torah (the Tanakh).

They developed detailed interpretations of biblical commandments—ritual, ethical, and legal—that guided daily life.

They maintained study circles (ḥavurot) that preserved and debated these traditions.

After the Temple’s destruction in 70 CE, the Pharisaic scholars who survived—notably those associated with Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai and the Yavne (Jamnia) academy—reconstituted Jewish learning. Their approach became what we now call Rabbinic Judaism.

2. From Pharisaic Tradition to the Mishnah

The Mishnah (ca. 200 CE, compiled by Rabbi Judah ha-Nasi) was essentially a systematic codification of Pharisaic teachings:

Many of its laws, ethical maxims, and interpretive methods directly continue Pharisaic thought.

Terminologically and methodologically, it reflects Pharisaic oral jurisprudence—for example, concepts like tahor/tamei (ritual purity) and hefker (ownerless property).

The Sadducean and other sectarian positions largely disappear from the Mishnah, which reflects the Pharisaic consensus that survived.

So: the Mishnah is the crystallization of Pharisaic tradition

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>>520869908
>>520870212
3. The Babylonian Talmud’s Relationship to the Pharisees

The Babylonian Talmud (Bavli) (200–500 CE) builds upon that Mishnah.
Its compilers—the Amoraim—inherited:

The legal framework and interpretive principles of the Pharisees.

The moral-ethical worldview of the Pharisees: emphasis on intention (kavvanah), compassion, and the study of Torah.

The hermeneutic methods (middot) that the Pharisees pioneered for deriving law from scripture.

However, the Talmud also represents major evolution:

It introduces new debates, dialectical reasoning, and logical structures (pilpul) that go beyond anything in the original Pharisaic corpus.

It reflects Babylonian conditions—diaspora life, Persian influence, local legal realities—so it is not a mere preservation of Pharisaic thought but an expansion and transformation of it.

4. How Much Came from the Pharisees?

Scholars generally estimate that:

The Mishnah’s core legal and ethical content (which the Talmud is built around) is almost entirely Pharisaic.

The Gemara (the Talmudic discussions surrounding the Mishnah) is post-Pharisaic, but conceptually continuous with it.

In that sense, the Babylonian Talmud is the intellectual and spiritual heir of the Pharisees—their methods, assumptions, and theology pervade it.

So while the Pharisees did not write the Talmud, they supplied its foundation. Every rabbinic discussion assumes the legitimacy of the Pharisaic Oral Law.

>>520870055
>consensus cracking
The consensus on /pol/ is that jews have always been gross pedos, stop trying to rehabilitate their image here.
>N-n-nope
Yep.

>>520869401
>>520869635
I feel like virility is transferred over to the woman with the Talmuds. Because they're mixed race they need to see the baby come out of the vagina. Unlike Judeans who the father's line made you apart of the tribe (although you couldn't be mixed!).

This is why Kabbalah was introduced and so successful because it's a female dominate mind set. It's not warrior culture, it sexualizes even the Monad and makes use of orgie and the feminine divine. God fucked up and everything shattered sounds like something a woman or homosexual would preach.

>>520869908
>>520870231
So as we can clearly see, the Talmudists do have a heritage, their heritage is the Amalekites, descendants of Esau, our sworn enemies who we we were commanded to genocide but did not.

Now they oppress us to this day.

>>520870231
>he Babylonian Talmud (Bavli) (200–500 CE) builds upon that Mishnah.
False

>The legal framework and interpretive principles of the Pharisees.
False... They had to reinvent everything. The Pharisees would stone a Talmud Rabbi to death.

You see your AI is listing opinions of a Talmud dominated society given to us by Talmud Rabbis who have no right to claim this heritage. They claim it because they KNOW that the legendary Pharisees were known for only ONE THING, challenging Christ and thus Rome (as Persian Magi created the Talmuds as a psy-op).

>>520870110
>>520870242
>The consensus on /pol/ is that jews have always been gross pedos
You sure are. That's why you reflexively accuse everyone of being pedos instead of refuting what we say
Guilty mind etc.
>stop trying to rehabilitate our image here
I'm not. I'm just pointing out the fact the historical Israelites were not jews
It drives you kikes insane

You'll never be a real man, troonette pedo

>>520870375
>So as we can clearly see
Dude you use AI. Stop it. As I said >>520870488
Pharisees would MURDER Talmuds for blasphemy and say, 'WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE!?!?!?!??!"


>their heritage is the Edom
false = pic

>>520870488
>>520870642
1. The Babylonian Talmud does build on the Mishnah

This is not just “tradition” — it’s a historical and textual fact.
Every single page of the Babylonian Talmud (Bavli) is structured around the Mishnah.

The Talmud literally quotes a Mishnah passage, then follows with Gemara—rabbinic analysis and discussion of that text.

If the Mishnah were removed, the Talmud would collapse structurally; it’s commentary, argument, and expansion on the Mishnah.

The early Amoraim (the rabbis of the Talmud) often discuss “our Mishnah says…” (matnitin de’amran), and debate its meaning line by line.

So it’s simply false to say the Talmud doesn’t build on the Mishnah — it’s built around it.

2. Pharisaic heritage was not “reinvented”

The idea that the rabbis of the Talmud “reinvented everything” ignores how rabbinic Judaism directly evolved out of Pharisaic schools:

The Mishnah, compiled around 200 CE by Rabbi Judah ha-Nasi, explicitly preserves teachings of Pharisaic sages like Hillel, Shammai, and Gamaliel.

These names are historically attested as Pharisaic teachers from the 1st century BCE–1st century CE, well before the Talmudic period.

Their methods of legal reasoning (middot shehatorah nidreshet bahen) are continued in the Talmud.

Far from reinventing, the rabbis systematized and expanded Pharisaic oral traditions that had already existed for generations.

>>520870642
>>520870488

3. Pharisees vs. Rabbis — Same lineage, new context

The Pharisees of the Second Temple period were not a “different religion.”
When the Temple was destroyed in 70 CE, the Sadducees (the Temple elite) and Essenes (the separatists) disappeared.
Only the Pharisaic scholars survived — those who believed Torah could be practiced through law, study, and community without the Temple.
Those survivors (like Yohanan ben Zakkai and Rabban Gamaliel II) founded the Yavne academy, which led directly to the rabbinic movement.

So the rabbis of the Talmud are the successors of the Pharisees, not their enemies.

I dunno, so far this AI slop is providing sources debunking you both.

1. The Babylonian Talmud is built on the Mishnah
Primary Sources

Every tractate of the Babylonian Talmud begins with a Mishnah passage. Example:

Berakhot 2a — opens with “מאימתי קורין את שמע בערבין” (“From when does one recite the Shema in the evening?”) — that’s the Mishnah; the Gemara then follows immediately with “מאי טעמא…”.

References within the Talmud itself:

Pesachim 3b, Bava Metzia 33a, Sanhedrin 7b, etc., use phrases like “מתניתין דלא כרבי פלוני” (“our Mishnah does not follow Rabbi X”), proving that the Mishnah text is the foundation of discussion.

Secondary / Scholarly Sources

Jacob Neusner, Introduction to the Talmud and Midrash (1987), ch. 3:

“The Mishnah serves as the organizing principle and the point of departure for the entire Talmudic corpus.”

Shaye J.D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah (2nd ed., 2006), pp. 207–210.

David Kraemer, The Mind of the Talmud: An Intellectual History of the Bavli (1990).

The Talmudic page structure (Vilna edition) itself visually demonstrates this — Mishnah at center, Gemara commentary surrounding it.

>>520870037
Yes, Jews

>>520870722

2. Pharisaic heritage of the rabbis
Primary Sources

Mishnah Avot 1:1–16: Chains of transmission listing figures like Hillel, Shammai, and Gamaliel — all historically Pharisaic sages.

Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 13.10.6 and 18.1.3: describes the Pharisees as emphasizing oral interpretation and lay scholarship, traits identical to later rabbinic methods.

The Mishnah preserves their teachings (e.g., Hillel’s seven rules of interpretation middot).

Secondary / Scholarly Sources

E.P. Sanders, Judaism: Practice and Belief, 63 BCE–66 CE (1992), pp. 406–420.

Shaye J.D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah, pp. 147–163.

Jacob Neusner, The Pharisees and the Rabbis: Two Studies in the Sociology of Judaism (1973).

Lee I. Levine, The Rabbinic Class of Roman Palestine in Late Antiquity (1989), pp. 28–34.

Martin Goodman, The Ruling Class of Judaea (1987), and Judaism in the Roman World (2007).

These works argue that the Pharisaic movement provided the ideological and social base from which the rabbinic class emerged.

3. Continuity: Pharisees Rabbis after 70 CE
Primary Sources

Avot de-Rabbi Natan (version A, ch. 4): story of Rabban Yohanan ben Zakkai escaping Jerusalem and establishing Yavne after the destruction.

Tosefta Sotah 15:11–15: describes the transfer of leadership to Yavne and later to Usha — the institutional continuity.

Mishnah Rosh Hashanah 4:1 mentions Rabban Gamaliel II of Yavne setting calendar rules — direct post-Pharisaic leadership.

Secondary / Scholarly Sources

Seth Schwartz, Imperialism and Jewish Society: 200 BCE to 640 CE (2001), pp. 80–100.

Shaye J.D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah, pp. 217–223.

Lee I. Levine, Rabbinic Class of Roman Palestine, ch. 1–2.

Jacob Neusner, The Formation of Rabbinic Judaism (1994).

Catherine Hezser, The Social Structure of the Rabbinic Movement in Roman Palestine (1997).

>>520870552
>instead of refuting what we say
What did you say, transjewish bitch? >>520868789
>NO I AM LE CHAD
Ok, you're not, you're a beta. Refuted.
This you? Posting a source where you brag about a jew saying judeans weren't jews? Lmao. You said no jew would ever claim the people in the bible weren't jews. You lied.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/520060805/#q520087697

>>520870132
>Even if you're right
But you wont allow that right? You don't want things to change right? You want to keep their larp going for them because they're magical ancient 'bad guys' you can fight right? Right He-Man? You're a warrior against an ancient snake peoples right He-man?

Grow up.. Jews died long ago. These are mutts of mixed race posing as a famous peoples. TalMUDS

IN SUMMARY, ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO THIS:

Rabbinic Judaism is the historical continuation of the Pharisaic movement, reorganized after the destruction of the Second Temple, with the Mishnah as its foundational codification and the Talmud as its elaboration.

Any attempt at refutation is merely deceptive kvetching

>>520852751 (OP)
100%

They're larping as an extinct people.

>>520870676
>Mishnah
>he Mishnah or the Mishna is the first written collection of the Jewish oral traditions that are known as the Oral Torah. Having been collected in the 3rd century CE

STFU Mud man! >>520870722
>>520870769
muh AI grab of Talmud "scholars" giving us a history of their claims to be an ancient dead peoples. LOL

>>520852885
>Were pharisees jews?
They were Edomites like Herod the king who tried to have Jesus killed as a baby.

>>520870676
>Mishnah

>>520870919
To be clear: The Mishnah is Talmuds claiming secret notes on the Torah they "collected" at the time they were invented in Persian Babylon. They then go on to say, because we collected these secret writings we are the Jews. But they're not. That's not their culture. It was "notes" created by Magi doing a psy-op

>>520852937
10 tribes of Israel were scattered around the world. They are the Lost Tribes. It's possible that they were blond and blue eyed. Probable with light skin.

>>520870676
>>520870919
>the christjews have started infighting about roots of jewish folklore
You fags always say anti-christians stoke infighting then call each other jews over your interpretations of judeo-sandnigger history lol.

>>520870306
>This is why Kabbalah was introduced and so successful because it's a female dominate mind set. It's not warrior culture, it sexualizes even the Monad and makes use of orgie and the feminine divine. God fucked up and everything shattered sounds like something a woman or homosexual would preach.

If you use it as metaphysics, it sounds mega-fucked.
If you actually face the dark night of the soul and spend enough time trying to find reasons to live, to the point that you're desperate enough to explore all parts of your mind, eventually you'll notice the patterns. They are just talking about the mind.
But the point isn't just "aha! I figured out how the mind works!" That's like being an obese football fan on the couch saying you know football because you watched Tom Brady do it.
The glory goes to the man in the arena, with his face marred by sweat, mud, and blood. Tantra (energy manipulation in the mind and body) is real. You can obscure this knowledge in myth, but there is zero utility in then using that myth to form philosophy.
Actually, what fucks the Talmuds over is actually how much they believe their own shit. They actually believe there is anything spiritually significant at all in that text.

I think you're somewhat right about the women thing, but I see the cause differently. This metaphysics has the effect of weakening the man, and what do women do around weakened men? They walk all over them. The Talmud and the ancient lawyer/banker class simply created proto-feminism. It is somewhat of a wonder that the Talmuds have actually survived this long in spite of it — no other culture alive today has been able to survive more than 100 years of feminism.

I think maybe this is where the jew/goy stuff really comes in handy. They use their religion on their women to keep them loyal enough to overcome the feminism. In other words, atheist jews will be the Talmudic downfall.

I'd also like to hear your take on the original intent of Christianity.

>>520854104
>Closest things to biblical descendants of judah are Samaritans and Palestinians who are a mix of israelites and syrians or arabs.
Correct. At least in the Middle East.

The theories about the Welsh, Celts, and Germans being lost tribes of Israel have some interesting proof.

>>520871124
Dont matter. Not the subject. The subject is mixed race mud peoples claiming another dead people's identity with a foreign book they made up 300 years after these ancient peoples died off, ONLY because they became famous with Rome turning Christian.
Why?
To claim higher status.
To infiltrate Rome.
To feel chosen.
To feel in charge?

>>520870728
NPC overload?

>>520852751 (OP)
whites are not Anglo

>>520852751 (OP)
The palestinians are the real jews.

>>520870919
All you can do is ad hominem me as you have no refutation. I have already shown that Idumeans (Edomites) -> Pharisees -> Talmudists.

It is your problem to grapple with the Truth, not mine.

Once again, I will repeat in case you did not read:

"The Pharisees said to Jesus, "We are Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man" (John 8:33). Yet, Israelites, who are Abraham's seed, had a long history of bondage in Egypt, Assyria and Babylon. Therefore, the Pharisees were the other branch of Abraham's seed in Palestine at the time -- EDOMITES. Christ called the Pharisees and Saduccees "a wicked and adulterous generation.""

>>520871253
>atheist jews will be the Talmudic downfall.
There are no atheist jews. Once you're an atheist you're not a jew because Jews died out long ago and these are mixed race Talmuds.

>>520871425
Are you still AI posting Talmud Rabbis claiming to be Jews? You're not a Jew. You can leave now.

>>520870774
>transjewish
Why do you jews always make up words when you're angry? I have no idea what you mean and have to move on...
>You said no jew would ever claim the people in the bible weren't jews
And I'm correct
>This you?
>Posting a source . . . about a jew saying judeans weren't jews?
ROFL. You kikes just cannot stop lying
Don't need to click on that I already know what you're kvetching about...
Your fellow jew wasn't saying Jesus was not jewish, he was saying the word Judean does not mean jew (which is correct)
Literally hundreds of you kikes have said my argument/fact that "Judean does not mean jew" is "irrelevant" and don't admit it means historical Jesus was not a jew. You've probably said that hahahaha!!
"Claiming it" doesn't mean accepting the conclusion, thus no jew takes the side that Jesus was not a jew
>You lied.
Nope.
You did.
See above

If I remember correctly the last thread closed before I had a chance to explain away this kikery of yours.
Glad I triggered you so hard you brought it back up!!


You'll never be a real man, troonette pedo

>>520871392
You'd get shot if you said that to someone from al-Qassam brigades.

>>520855244
>Time wasting cope about how the real hebrews are the irish or whatever serves what purpose exactly?
Why does this make you so angry? It's an interesting theory that may be true.

What is absolutely true is that the political entity created in 1948 that calls itself 'Israel' is not biblical Israel.

The people who call themselves 'Jews' are not biblically or genetically Hebrew or Israelites.

God's chosen people would be good and kind, building a prosperous world for all. Working hard to create strong communities where everyone is safe and cared for; neighbor helping neighbor.

God's chosen people would be morally upstanding, loyal, and righteous in their behavior, honest and forthright. All other races would aspire to live in their nations and strive to join their communities.

God's chosen people would return their shopping carts and care for animals. They would not view other humans as cattle and advocate for rape of prisoners. Or starve children.

>"Churches suffered from Jews who killed both the Lord Jesus and the Prophets and also persecuted us. They displease God and have become enemies of the entire human race"
1 Thessalonians 2: 14-15

>"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."
Revelation 3: 9

Which racial groups are genetically altruistic and rule following?

Which racial groups are genetically sociopathic narcissistic scammers?

>>520852751 (OP)

real jews are left overs from the Cro-magnon/Neanderthal wars that decimated the occultic Neanderthals who were busy raping babies and drinking blood. most of them come from what is now Western Europe; they eventually made it to the Levant long after the original Vedics & Aryans migrated over.

There's enough written history that hasn't been savaged by faggot kikes that shows the term 'jew' is older than the Levant, and it is used to describe clear Neanderthal behavior, i.e. being loud, stupid, arrogant, and violent, and having a weird obsession with idolatry and blood rituals.

>>520852937
>Islam is Mithraism
Pierre, you are retarded. Go put another baguette up your ass.

>>520857330
>Rabbi Yeshua was a jew, admit it already
Kike shills always claim this. He wasn't a Talmudic kike.

>>520871642
>you jews
Meant for >>520870552
>You kikes just cannot stop lying
Meant for >>520870552
>Nope.
>You did.
Meant for >>520870552
>this kikery of yours.
Meant for >>520870552
>You'll never be a real man, troonette pedo
Meant for >>520870552

>>520852751 (OP)
I don't care if they're jews or not, they all need to die. I've listened start to finish to the entire audio version of the Tanakh, and there's nothing redeeming in it. These were bad people. I've browsed parts of the Talmud, I've listened to an audiobook about Avodah Zarah, the portion of the Talmud that supposedly governs jewish relations with gentiles. These are also not good people by any metric. I don't need to make a choice between bad people and other bad people.
They're all kikes. Gas with extreme prejudice. The differences between them are nothing to concern ourselves with.
There has never been a time when "jew" meant good person in any context.

>>520871920
>I've listened start to finish to the entire audio version of the Tanakh, and there's nothing redeeming in it. These were bad people.
E-christians will call you jews for claiming this btw. They have tanakh derangement syndrome.

>>520871811
They created the Psy-Op to attack Rome you fucking imbecile.

>>520871253
Also note that Talmuds believe if there are not more muds to read the Talmud the Universe collapses. It's insane but pure collective egotism.

>>520871920
>I DON'T CARE!
You don't have to be fake Jewish, you know? You're a mixed race person so just accept it, Talmud.

>>520852751 (OP)
The ancient judeans were vile desert sand rats and they're all burning in hell.

>>520871698
>>520871668
>>520870769

REMINDER

Pharisees would of stoned Talmuds to death for being foreign posers larping as their culture and countrymen.

>>520872080
>You're a mixed race person so just accept it, Talmud.
I am mixed Swedish and German, primarily. There's other Eurostock to some degree, but I don't do dna tests, so I guess the admixture can just remain guesswork.
I denounce the Talmud and all Abrahamic faiths. Abraham should have been strangled at birth, the world would have been better for it.
Nothing good comes from Judaism. Neither Christianity nor Islam merit admiration or acceptance. Monotheism was a mistake.

>>520857418
>what's the point of leading with the ethnic background argument? It isn't wrong, mind you, but what's the angle?
Kikes claim Israelite ancestry because they want to be the Chosen People™ that their rabbis claim will become rulers of the earth and enslave the goyim. It's also the fact that they use to convince the Christians to support them.

If Christians were to all come to believe that the people calling themselves Jews are actually Canaanite/Edomites and the political entity calling itself Israel is actually the Synagogue of Satan then their support would end.

It's clear to see from kike behavior that they are not God's chosen people.

God's chosen people would be good and kind, building a prosperous world for all. Working hard to create strong communities where everyone is safe and cared for; neighbor helping neighbor.

God's chosen people would be morally upstanding, loyal, and righteous in their behavior, honest and forthright. All other races would aspire to live in their nations and strive to join their communities.

God's chosen people would return their shopping carts and care for animals. They would not view other humans as cattle and advocate for rape of prisoners. Or starve children.

>"Churches suffered from Jews who killed both the Lord Jesus and the Prophets and also persecuted us. They displease God and have become enemies of the entire human race"
1 Thessalonians 2: 14-15

>"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."
Revelation 3: 9

Which racial groups are genetically altruistic and rule following?

Which racial groups are genetically sociopathic narcissistic scammers?

>>520852751 (OP)
Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the Tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESNI-FvFyQ

>>520871856
>STOP CALLING US JEWISH YOU STUPID GOY WHITE MALE !!!!!
lol I caused another mental breakdown in her

Watch her do it again...

Imagine if he started saying this.

>>520852751 (OP)
What's a real jew? Even the word is fake.

>>520872645
Interesting assertion. I might watch the video in a little while, but I do seem to recall Jeremiah saying Jews had broken the covenant and a new covenant was needed inclusive of all the nations. This would seem to perhaps be an inspiration for Jesus' theology, and I'm fairly certain that as a religiously educated person he would have been familiar with Jeremiah and other rabbinical works. It was like foreshadowing of Jesus' teachings, in a sense, perhaps.

>>520852751 (OP)
It's afraid

>>520872880
That's a question jews refuse to answer and perform every form of mental gymnastics to avoid because it leads to accountability. In a sense, the term "jew" means something you can't define but does limitless harm to everything around it.

>>520872645
>This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah
interesting. They admit their muds.


>>520872880
I think everyone just assumes they're the bible people right? But they're Talmuds.

>>520871920
If you do not love the Tanakh, that is because you are still spiritually dead in your sins, you are not (yet) spiritually alive in Christ.

>>520872662
>STOP CALLING ME JEWISH
No I don't think I will, tanakh humper.

>>520873157
Yes you "Jews" hate to be called chosen and Jewish right? LOL... Nice try Mud

>>520872247
Pharisaism is the seed, Talmudism is the fully grown tree.

Do remember that Pharisaism geographically originates in South Judea/Idumea. Pharisaism was the reinterpretation of Judaism that arose in a newly expanded Judea where Idumeans and other non-priestly groups had recently joined the covenant community.

>>520873221
Your ID is Tay because you're a schizophrenic kike with tay sachs.

>>520852751 (OP)
There are kind of Jews recognized in Quran, and obviously it's not (((that))) Jews.

>>520852751 (OP)
NYET. We will call those pesky handrubbing bloodlibeling childfucking moneylaundering fags (((jews))) and we will annihilate (((them))). Time have come.

>>520852751 (OP)
Correct
"The Pharisees, the most zealous, the most numerous and progressive sect of Israel, are accused by the Gospel writers of traversing wide seas and lands to make a convert. Sill later, in the ninth century, A.D., a rabbi converted the royal family of the Khazars, the whole nobility, and a large part of the common people to his religion. Proselytes were always held n high esteem by the Israelites."
Yahvism, and Other Discourses
-Adolf Moses 1903

Adolf wanted to stop calling the religion 'judaism' and to call it yahwism. He said there was no jewish 'race'.

>>520873157
I'm definitely not a kike
Kikes/muds/leftists like you can't meme
I can
I made pic related just now

You can't make memes because you're both jewish and a woman

>>520873141
I go beyond not loving the Tanakh, I go so far as to say the Tanakh is retarded and gay.
Some of it is tolerable to listen to as a falsified historical novel. But what is with the morons who can't even manage basic reading comprehension and insist every story is evidence of holiness? Yes, Sodom and Gomorrah were full of buttfucking faggots. But the very same story was told about Gibeon when it was under Benjaminite control, a story that set off a jewish civil war that almost exterminated the Benjaminites, and nobody seems to remember that. The Tanakh repeatedly states that the jews exceeded the nations for depravity and vexed their own god.
What is there to admire?
An unrepentant people who despise their own god's laws and a god unwilling to enforce them and who simps for a people who do nothing but disrespect him because his laws are retarded?
The Tanakh is utter bullshit. Jewish law is absurdity which turned to organized crime to preserve its people because it had no respect for anyone who had mercy upon them.
Jews are vermin, undeserving of respect, and the jewish belief system is a plague on earth that makes life worse for everyone but the pyramid schemers it naturally produces.

WHO WUZ?
>WE WUZ
WHO WUZ?
>WE WUZ

>>520873582
>You can't make memes because you're both jewish and a woman
>makes a meme about an agent used to delouse clothes
Meant for >>520873582

>>520852751 (OP)
G-d chosen people shalll not be mocked!

>>520858406
The Romans didnt have to convert for the sake of some small and mostly irrelevant province.

>>520852751 (OP)
They are Carthaginians

>>520852751 (OP)
Ah yes, the infant penis mutilating schizophrenics of the torah who exhibited and invented all the customs and behaviors that make modern jews today abhorrent actually have nothing to do with modern jews. They are actually Europe's ancestors. Europeans used to be exactly like modern jews only a few thousand years ago, modern jews just stole our based infant penis mutilating yahwist culture and religion (which is now evil and satanic).

WE WUZ JEWS AN SHIEEET

>>520873627
Yes, they were, and still are, a stiff-necked people. The Tanakh is brutally honest about Israel’s failures; the prophets constantly condemn their disobedience. But rather than disproving God’s power or wisdom, this reveals His patience and purpose.

Yahweh chose Israel not because they were perfect or obedient, but precisely to demonstrate His covenant faithfulness, mercy, and sovereignty through a flawed people. As Deuteronomy 7:7–8 declares:

“The Lord did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples. But it was because the Lord loved you and kept the oath he swore to your ancestors that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt.”

Unlike all of humanity, God actually keeps His oaths and promises. Is that not good?

Then consider Hosea 3:1:

“And the Lord said to me, ‘Go again, love a woman who is loved by another man and is an adulteress, even as the Lord loves the children of Israel, though they turn to other gods and love cakes of raisins.’”

Hosea’s life becomes a living parable of divine love toward an unfaithful people. It illustrates how Yahweh remains faithful while His people run after other gods, how He redeems even those who betray Him.

The heart of the Tanakh is this: a divine love that refuses to abandon what it has promised, even when the beloved is undeserving. Hosea shows that Yahweh’s faithfulness is not weakness, it is strength expressed through mercy.

>>520873661
>she says a post saying I'm not a kike is meant for me
I officially buck broke her again haha

>>520874891
>buck broke
>her
Little troonette, do I need to give you the birds and bees talk?

>>520874154
>Israel’s failures; the prophets constantly condemn their disobedience
The Tanakh is not even honest about the attitudes of God and his prophets.
>Unlike all of humanity, God actually keeps His oaths and promises. Is that not good?
He constantly lies, has a legion of spirits of lies and madness that he constantly uses to coerce mortals into doing whatever he wants.
>>The entire exodus and the prophets are fake. The constant references to peoples and nations that did not exist at that time, the total absence of names such as Moses until the Maccabean revolt, the impossibility of the exodus (Canaan was originally Egyptian territory, making a flight to Egypt absurd), and, of course, the succession of unfulfilled prophecies in the Torah (not even the New Testament... literal prophecies of the Torah that are false).
>Both Jeremiah and Ezekiel predicted the arrival of the Messiah between 40 and 70 years ago, and it never happened. Judaism = falsehood.
>Daniel claimed that Yahweh revealed to him that the Messianic era would begin 70 years from his time (Ezekiel says 40) and that Jerusalem would never be conquered... All lies, first Ptolemy, then Pompey, the same kind of mental gymnastics that keeps Christianity alive and used by Paul is used by Judaism, fake prophecies reinterpreted over and over again when they are not fulfilled.
>And in Daniel's failed prophecy, he states that the written law will no longer be necessary because God will inscribe the law in the hearts of his people. The prophecy is reinterpreted and the cycle continues. Daniel said 70 years, it did not happen. One of the most curious things is that Daniel justifies himself by saying that Yahweh lies, and that when a prophet speaks but the prophecy is not fulfilled, it is because Yahweh has lied.
>Furthermore, no Jewish messianic prophecy can be fulfilled... because they never received messianic prophecies; it is something they borrowed from the Mazdeist religion.

>>520852751 (OP)
>This other group of semites are the REAL Jews.

Who cares? All levantine semites are garbage.

>>520874951
>troonette
She's back to copying the insults I type again...
Rent free
>her
>birds and bees talk
Huh??
The kike is confused and thinks that euphemism is about biological sex instead of "intercourse sex"
It just proved it's not a native English speaker

It couldn't be more obvious 8SxDCNc7 is a tel aviv jew

What a retard

Since the babylonian exile the religion has been about more than just the running of the temple and its sacrifices.
Modern judaism is closer to the judaism of jesus' time than that judaism was to a sadducees only view. The reason we even have ideas like 'tiers of angels' or 'an afterlife' in christianity is because thats what the non sadducees believed in.

After the end of the second temple the sadducees fell entirely out of power because their entire function was to run the temple. At this point it was the mystics and the apocalyptic ideas of the time that became the main religion. Its not correct to say its the pharisees from then on out, the pharisees were one sect of many similar groups. The essenes where we get the dead sea scrolls from were another, but in general everyone who was not an aristocrat had varying degrees of alignment with an emerging common set of ideas and practices. Christianity itself started out as just one of these groups.

After the second period judaism evolved in stages based mainly on where the center of religious study was located. During this time different rabbis and other types refined and debated. Certain prominent figures wrote important treatises, etc. There is a lot of commentary. Judaism evolved essentially as 'commentary on the tanakh' and then 'commentary on the commentary', and then 'legal rulings', and then 'commentary on legal rulings' etc. The talmud is a written record of the debates that occurred in the babylon school and the jerusalem school. They cover slightly different time spans so you can even find the same subject addressed in both of them with a different ruling between them showing how the religion evolved in time.
All religions do this and most just say new things are revealed over time. Exegesis is how Judaism obtains revelation.

The religion is a legitimate unbroken line from the original judaism. Its changed over time as all religions do. As is christianity, as its just an apocalyptic messianic jewish sect

>>520876240
>gets caught affirming the holohoax and trans ideology
>writes another troonpost

>It couldn't be more obvious 8SxDCNc7 is a tel aviv jew
Meant for pqwvRD7H

>>520875208
1. “God lies and manipulates.”
That’s a misread of prophetic imagery. In passages like 1 Kings 22 and Ezekiel 14:9, God doesn’t deceive the innocent — He permits deceivers to deceive those who already reject truth. It’s moral judgment, not divine dishonesty. The Hebrew idiom attributes what God allows to His sovereignty. The Tanakh’s God judges through truth, not lies.

2. “The Exodus and prophets are fake.”
Absence of direct Egyptian records ≠ evidence of fabrication. Egyptians never recorded defeats. Meanwhile, archaeology and linguistics show Semitic peoples living in Egypt and entering Canaan around the right time (see the Merneptah Stele, c. 1208 BCE, which names Israel). The customs, names, and law codes in the Pentateuch fit the Bronze Age, not the Hellenistic period.
Also, the Septuagint — a Greek translation of the Torah made in the 3rd century BCE — proves Moses was revered long before the Maccabees.

3. “Prophecies failed.”
Prophecy isn’t fortune-telling; it’s moral conditionality expressed in poetry. Jeremiah’s “seventy years” (Jer 25:11–12; 29:10) referred to Babylon’s rule — which ended exactly when Cyrus conquered Babylon in 539 BCE and freed the exiles (Ezra 1:1–3).
Daniel’s “seventy weeks” is symbolic numerology, not literal decades. It covers the whole arc from exile to restoration — fulfilled historically and then re-read messianically. No failure there, just layered fulfillment.

4. “Messianism was borrowed from Zoroastrianism.”
The Hebrew mashiach (“anointed one”) predates Persian contact. David is called God’s anointed (2 Sam 7; Ps 2; Isa 11). Persia may have broadened Jewish eschatology, but the core messianic hope — a righteous Davidic ruler restoring justice — is indigenous to Israel’s faith, centuries earlier.

>>520876442
>you were supposed to say DOE BROKE because I'm a woman!!
>you can't mock me and my holocaust lies via telling us jews to die from zyklon b because my jewish grandparents weren't ACKSHULLY killed with zyklon b!!
her copes get worse every single day
watch her screech "meant for" like a woman again

She can't help it

>>520876832
Too troony, didn't read.

>>520852751 (OP)
You have been mindbroken by jews, you’re such a golem that you do their bidding for them. They don’t even have to claim to be (((fellow whites))) or apply Esau’s gambit, you’re happy to do it on their behalf. Shabbos goy.

judaism is not a race... faggot

>>520852751 (OP)
>You're not a Judean you are a Talmudian!
Why are christkikes so obsessed with who qualifies as a Jew?

>>520877122
Because once they admit the israelites were jews their whole online persona falls apart.

>>520876733
>God doesn’t deceive the innocent — He permits deceivers to deceive those who already reject truth. It’s moral judgment, not divine dishonesty.
So in other words your god gets other people to fuck with his critics in order to reinforce his message and stroke his ego, a truly lovely deity. Man you're laying on the pilpul pretty fucking thick.

>>520876965
>mental breakdown intensifies
watch her "n-n-n-no U" because I called her a jewish troon first

She can't help it

>>520877350
Too jewish didn't read

>>520877122
>so obsessed with who qualifies as a Jew?
every single last anti-Christ and jew on /pol/ has a face-clawing meltdown trying to (falsely) qualify Jesus as a jew

It's their biggest obsession by far

>>520877388
>watch her "n-n-n-no U" because I called her a jewish

>Too Jewish
She did it!!

She can't help herself

>>520877735
Too jewtroon didn't read

>>520852885
>>520852751 (OP)
Pharisee = Jew = Canaanite = Edomite = Danite

Actual Israelites tribes had already scattered before Jesus Christ was born. He came from the sole remaining branch in the middle east that would later become the Palestinians of today after millennia of admixture. It's why he had to go out of his way to revoke special privileges of Israelites(since gone) and update things according to his followers, reminding everyone that the REAL Israelites had scattered and the Fake Israelites were the Synagogue of Satan.

>>520877977
>Pharisee = Jew = Canaanite = Edomite = Danite
OFF TOPIC

= HISTORY not modern Talmuds

>>520873759
She was the best
Daddy's good girl

>>520877248
See? You're literally deceiving yourself right now (which is what God allows) lol.

Thanks for confirming the Bible's validity, once again.

>>520877977
>Pharisee = Jew
Not quite. Paul said he was a pharisee and of the Israelite tribe of Benjamin, so your equation would imply an Israelite was a jew, which is false. That's the only example in history of a pharisee ever being called an Israelite.

Pharisees could acquire proselytes though and that's how jews ended up stealing the religion of the Israelites. Jesus said pharisee proselytes were more deserving of hell. If you closely follow the literal language Jesus actually says the pharisees "have sat themselves" on the throne of Moses. He did not say they inherited it via lineage or imply anything of that sort. That's a very important distinction most people miss.

>>520878574
Paul aka Saul the Pharisee was the false apostle as warned about by Jesus Christ that persecuted, tortured, murdered, and hunted down all his legit followers to replace their sincere teachings with his corrupted version all because Jesus Christ specifically banned organized religion and he realized he couldn't kill all his followers so he decided to subvert them instead via Church institutions.

Technically Jews never stole the religion because theirs was invented 300 years AFTER Christianity was founded and absorbed/updated the Old Testament. They just lied and insisted theirs was the OG and hated Jesus Christ and his followers.

In terms of ethnicity, they are depraved degenerate inbred outbred Canaanite gene stealers.

Oh boy, more christjew infighting is flaring up lmao

>>520854740
Captain Jean-Luc Niggard, USS Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiit

>>520878862
In Acts 9, after Paul’s conversion, he was initially distrusted by believers because of his past. However:

Barnabas vouched for him before the apostles (Acts 9:27).

In Galatians 2:7–9, Paul records that Peter, James, and John extended “the right hand of fellowship” to him, affirming his ministry to the Gentiles.

Paul’s message was recognized as consistent with theirs (Galatians 2:6–9).

If Paul were a “false apostle,” the Jerusalem leadership would have denounced him — but they publicly endorsed him.

The New Testament itself (especially Acts and the letters of Peter) affirms Paul as legitimate.

For example, 2 Peter 3:15–16 calls Paul’s writings “Scripture” and acknowledges him as a “beloved brother.”

4. Paul’s Past as a Persecutor

Yes — Paul did persecute early Christians:

“I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it.” — Galatians 1:13

But that was before his conversion on the road to Damascus (Acts 9).
Afterward, he became Christianity’s most persecuted missionary — beaten, imprisoned, and ultimately executed for spreading Jesus’ message (2 Corinthians 11:24–27).

That transformation is one of the strongest historical evidences for the sincerity of Paul’s faith, not against it.

5. Did Paul Invent “Organized Religion”?

No.
Paul never founded an institutional “church” like the later Roman or Orthodox hierarchies. The Greek word ekklesia (ἐκκλησία) means assembly or community, not “institution.”

Paul’s teachings emphasized:

Spiritual unity in Christ (1 Corinthians 12)

Humility and service, not hierarchy (Philippians 2:3–5)

Freedom from legalism (Galatians 5:1)

If anything, Paul opposed rigid organization and authoritarian control.
Later centuries (after Constantine) developed institutional Christianity — long after Paul’s lifetime.

>> 520878116
>She was the best
>Daddy's good girl
This anti-Christ memeflag vile scum rat is literally somehow referencing CSAM that was deleted over an hour ago and mocking the victim in it.... it has to be part of the group that posted it since it's deleted yet it knows what was in that sick image...
They are literally jewish pedo bots ITT spreading illegal images while attacking Christianity and saying Israelites were the same as jews

This should be the ultimate redpill for anyone having doubts about who/what is behind this anti-Christ shill brigade: a network of Christ-hating pedophiles

Who are the biggest Christ hating pedophiles on earth?

jews

>>520878862
>Paul . . .was the false apostle
rofl ok kike
you're not gonna slip your well-poisoning in that easily

>>watch her "n-n-n-no U" because I called her a jewish

>>520877915
>Too jewtroon
She did it!!

She can't help herself

>>520879232
STOP FUCKING SPAMMING TULMUTT

>>520879290
Weren't you and McStein in a thread about while back kvetching about the AOC being too high and downplaying the issue of pedophilia since your ancestors fucked kids?

>>520879232
Paul subverted the Way and destroyed the teachings of Jesus by abolishing the law, circumcision and making pork ok to eat. That's why everyone wanted his head on a platter. He was most likely a Roman spy which is why he was being protected. Also Paul wrote acts and Galatians without any external verification. Why should anyone trust what that kike had to say?

Yaakov McStein spent a whole thread justifying having sex with minors and this anon >>520879290 was on his side

>>520867812
>American soldiers liberate the so called jews from Germany
>as a thank you they do everything they can to murder their descendants and genocide them from existence
A fair response to your rescuers all things considered. Why when the fire department saved my life I swore eternal enmity against their seed for not doing it fast enough. Who wouldn't?

>> 520868900
>you rape kids
>> 520869616
>rape kids like
>> 520869524
>raping kids
>> 520879747
>sex with minors
>>520879570
>ancestors fucked kids?

>OH VEY HE CAUGHT US
>SWITCH VPNS, CALL HIM A PEDO TO DEFLECT, AND SHUT IT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You deserve to be skinned alive, kike

All the above posts are the same VPN pedophile kike

Instead of calling out the illegal image that was posted that jewish rat tries to use it against Christians

They are such pure scum

>>520879859
LOL

tUL MUDS ARE CRAZY BRO

>>520868159
>NO ONE IS CHOSEN! EVERYONE IS A CHILD OF GOD!
I treat everyone as an individual but they treat everyone like a group out to kill them. Its psychotic behavior.

A pattern I noticed:
>jew lives in America
>he wants to kill Americans
>jew lives in Europe
>he wants to kill Europeans
>jew lives in the Middle East
>he wants to kill Middle Easterners
>jew lives in Africa
>the diamond mine deaths and cobalt collapses are pure coincidence
Now if a jew lives in America he will fund Mamdani. But if he lives in Palestine he will fund Azov but no matter where he is those closest to his home are the one's at the top of the hitlist. If a jew is your friend its because you're further down the priority list but your day will come if he has his way.

>>520852751 (OP)
I genuinely can't tell if you're a christkike coping or just a schizo who thinks this matters for some reason.

>>520880175
>A pattern I noticed:
>>jew lives in America
>>he wants to kill Americans
>>jew lives in Europe
>>he wants to kill Europeans
>>jew lives in the Middle East
>>he wants to kill Middle Easterners
>>jew lives in Africa
BECAUSE IT'S A PERSIAN MAGI ATTACK MECHANISM.

It was designed to infiltrate and attack Christian Rome.

>>520880130
>SWITCH VPNS
Uh huh. Brandon Alexander Clark, put the meth pipe down and tell us why you said this.
>He's right to claim your viewpoint establishes a very large fraction of your ancestors would be "pedophiles" by your definitions.
1206 Fallon Ave SE. Go ahead, tell us why you were downplaying pedophilia with your name and address behind it.

>>520880199
>I genuinely can't tell if you're a christkike coping or just a schizo who thinks this matters for some reason.
Allow me to explain what we do here before the demoralization. You see we create. While others destroy. We make things. While others copy us. We meme. While others NPC.

Understand? Talmud is the new name for kike or Jew because they are not Jew. they're not even Pharaseeees

>>520880199
most likely a schizo, keeps referencing "persian magis" as a boogyman etc.

>>520879681
And yet you are a follower of the false prophet Muhammad instead of a follower of Christ, the Son of God.

Muslims do quite like pointing the finger at Paul, yet all of you are fine with how Uthman burned all the Qur'ans and codified his own version to rule over you.

>>520880277
I don't think a man with young children should be downplaying pedophilia like that. Keep in mind though that Brandon also defends circumcision because he had his son circumcised, which is itself a form of sexual violence.

>>520870982
>>520877977
>>520852885

pic related was a pharisee is who you got your religion from and he wuz an edomite canaanite larper, according to you. it's crazy how iliterate christcunts are about their own religion. just stop breathing you useless idiot

>> 520880277
>> 520880427
>jewish rat filth is having a meltdown trying to shut me up because it realized it didn't condemn the literal child abuse material that its fellow kike posted and now it's obvious it's a pedophile kike
You deserve to be skinned alive, kike

Go ahead and cry to jannies like you did last time I said this

>>520880709
>pussy refuses to defend his former pro-pedophilia stance while staking his name and address
Too bad you can't change the fact that you condoned sexual violence against your infant son, pussy boy.

NPC FREAK OUT

This thread is too pure and old/pol/..... Talmud is the new name so get use to it.

>> 520880872
>pedophile got caught so it immediately screeches NO U!!!!! and blatantly lies
You deserve to be skinned alive, kike
That kike gets really triggered every time I say that because it knows how guilty it is, so it reports me. But it needs to be said. My posts will soon be gone...oh well.
It wants to shut me up so badly it will ban its VPN to do so by posting what it thinks is "doxx" info again

It's scared...

>>520881247
>still waiting on this pussy to reiterate that it's not opposed to sex with minors
>what it thinks is "doxx" info
If it wasn't you would simply defend your previous stance, but you won't do that behind your real name.

>>520852751 (OP)

Real Jews are reanimated corpses inhabited by demons. Only God can stop them coming here.

>>520881247
>>520881336
Can you mixed race Talmuds with no history stop arguing over sex and evil shit?

>>520853623
Bullshit! Sadducees followed the teachings of the old testament,I'm a Karaite we come from the zadokites and are some of the only not Talmudic Jews.
Pharisees=Sanhedrin=learned protocols of elder Zion the Pharisees had Jesus crucified the Sadducees saw him as the righteous teacher and mashioc Ben Joseph.

>>520881336
>>VPN pedophile got caught so it immediately screeches NO U!!!!! and blatantly lies about stances I never held
You deserve to be skinned alive, kike

That kike gets really triggered every time I say that because it knows how guilty it is

>>520881925
Oh look, pedopussy is backtracking now.

It's scares.

>>520881799
>Bullshit! Sadducees followed the teachings of the old testament,I'm a Karaite we come from the zadokites and are some of the only not Talmudic Jews.
Sweat heart. It clearly says that Pharasees and Saducees were STONE fake ass Talmuds to death for being posers that appear 300 years later with their "notes'


If anything you agree. They're mixed race foreigners trying to usurp bible peoples that are GONE

Christcucks endlessly arguing over Jewish folklore.

>>520882207
WRONG AGAIN NPC

It's not that. GTFO if you can't handle /pol/. Jews are gone baby gone. 1,800 years ago. These are muds pretending

>>520882269
You guys are just as bad as the Jews. All their power comes from you believing in their myths and playing along with their act.

>>520882439
Jews? They died off long ago. Do you mean Talmuds?

>>520882032
>kike has to lie that I implied/said/agreed sex with minors is "ok" because it's a verified pedo that ignored CSAM ITT and needs to deflect by screeching NO U!!!!!!

You deserve to be skinned alive, kike
See >>520881925

>>520882561
>ignored CSAM
I never saw that, but you seemed to have gotten a very good look at it. Explain to everyone how you knew you were looking at CP.

>>520882675
Man just call it child porn or CP
These absolute faggots that have to say C spam or Sam or just got awful academics with non-disclosure agreements signed out their butt hole

>>520882675
>>520882733
You see something weird is happening. These two Talmuds are tying to push pedo stuff because that's what they do when they don't like when we goy talk this way.

Why don't give up on sexual deviance and realized that "Judah-ism" is child abuse and you don't have to live this way.

We created this thread for the purpose of monitoring and exposing this behavior. You wont get away with anything sicko sex pest freaks. We are legion.

Thread will be archived and saved for legal proceedings. You fake Jews will not be allowed to continue this illegal sexual demon behavior. You will be exposed.

>>520882194
Retard Sadducees reject all oral tradition you have never even read the tanak!
Fuck you kikeboy you are a liar.

>>520883145
It doesn't matter they're dead long ago.

>>520882675
>>ignored CSAM
>I never saw that
Your lie isn't an excuse. Jannies deleted it and your memeflag kike pal paradoxically knew and said it was a girl an hour after it was deleted, I called him out, and you immediately attacked me trying to shut me up instead of attacking that anti-Christ pedo freak like I did (after you switched VPNS of course). You have no excuse. You sided with that pedophile, because you are one.
You ignored all these facts because you're a pedophile kike scum rat jew and that's why you're obsessed with child rape 24/7 and mention it in every thread

>Explain to everyone how you knew you were looking at CP.
You mock child abuse by pretending everyone can't recognize it instantly

You deserve to be skinned alive, kike

>>520883352
>>520882675
>>520882733
By the way I'm posting your fake fight to Three social media account with a time stamp. You're pedo-game wont work! You wont stop us from exploring historical truth about the bible and our culture!

>>520852885
>>520852751 (OP)
It's a bit more complicated than that.
Pharisees were one elite sect of jews that arose from the Babylon returnees, but there were others. These sects were the guys who first pushed for monolatricism in earnest, that Yahweh is the one true god of Israel (although other gods are real too) and wrote/rewrote the books to that effect, essentially inventing the religion of Jesus' time around 300BC, to improve their control over polytheist society, partially in reaction to increasing Greek cultural domination - and to set themselves apart from all the other groups inhabiting the region, of which there were five or so.
They suffered a couple of setbacks during that, including multiple civil wars, getting rekt by Rome and the rise of Christianity, which led to the formation of Rabbinic Judaism and explains some of the extremism in the Talmud.
Monotheism wasn't invented until 350AD or so - when the pagan faiths stopped being mainstream - because before then telling people their gods are fake was a death sentence.
Christianity became increasingly violent during those times, as the doctrine was nailed down, while jews operated more in the shadows, being a group of widely dispersed merchants.

>>520883352
>Jannies deleted it
Oh that's good, but not before you saved it of course.
>admits he's an expert on identifying CP
Wew lad. Anyway what did you mean here?
He's right to claim your viewpoint establishes a very large fraction of your ancestors would be "pedophiles" by your definitions.
Why is pedophile in scare quotes?

lsraeIis set fire to this young boy.

They. Set. Fire. To. A. Child.

https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1986897008087744571

>>520883395
Be sure to point out that Brandon Alexander Clark who lives at 1206 Fallon Ave SE, Roanoke, VA has previously defended sex with minors.

>>520883512
WTF haha are you feds mad at this thread? Are you trying to frame you boyfriend?

MODS!

>>520852751 (OP)
TKD
Da juice will always squeeze

>>520883413
Alexander the great was a monotheist that is why he sacked everyones temples except the jewish temple.
Alexander is one of the most common jewish names today because instead of paying tax to Alexander every jew named their first born sons Alexander on the Jubilee year.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU TAMLUDS ARE SO MAD??????

We're trying to help (you) escape the fucking cult. It's fucked up and you don't have to live this way, worshiping Persian Professors (Rabbi) who took the place of Levi and Moses!!!!!

>>520852751 (OP)
The khazarians didnt kill Jesus, in fact they had nothing to do with that part of history at all. They were given a fake identity. The real Jews homeland is on an island not far from here, Ive been there, its pretty boring.

“We spent years in school learning about the jewish holocaust. So, imagine my surprise once I got out of school and I learned there was an even bigger Christian holocaust going on in Russia at the same we were locking arms with Stalin.”

https://x.com/henri_fjord/status/1986748587095761160

>>520884091
Dude can't you people ever update you fucking programming. This is a new idea. It's not about Russia or Ukraine.

It's just correcting history.

>>520883445
>attacked the person who attacked a confirmed pedophile
You sided with that pedophile above when you attacked me instead of him...because you are a pedophile. You deserve to be skinned alive, kike

Last post. You'll post again, under that VPN or another one, because you're a pedophile and can't help it.

>>520883558
That's not a fed that's a well known insane pedophile kike that talks about and accuses everyone of child rape in every thread every time it loses an argument, even the non Christian threads. You can find it in the sign tapping threads and everyone there calls it a kike too. It doesn't care if it posts "doxx" info and gets banned because tel aviv has infinite VPNS. It's been banned before for posting that and it came right back in 5 minutes. So it doesn't even matter if you report it, unless you want to temporarily piss it off

Hilariously, it has absolutely no idea if that person it posted is me btw. Its jewish network has been trying to make me confirm or deny it for the past 6 months