Thread 520863261

if solar is a scam like trump says why is CHINA going all in on it?

Because China loves scams you moron

>>520863261 (OP)
Perhaps, and that's a remote possibility, it is not a scam and will give China further global strategic advantages
Fat chance, huh

chinks have horizontal wind

>>520863261 (OP)
Trust the plan.
Two more pandemics.

>>520863261 (OP)
Because they dont have oil or nat gas and they manufacture panels and the ccp can seize any land they want to install solar arrays . Its also why theyre all in on EVs, no oil of their own. Cant make their own gasoline from their own oil. Can only make electricity

>>520863261 (OP)
Because Trump is a retard. Everyone else is going all in on renewables, aside from America.

>>520863335
FPBP as always; OP is a sad chink agit-propper

>>520863261 (OP)
How many GW of Solar is china bringing online versus how many GW of coal?
Go ahead, Ill wait.

>>520863261 (OP)
>if solar is a scam like trump says why is CHINA going all in on it?
Same reason they build cities that nobody lives in and endless fields of electric vehicles rotting into the ground that nobody buys
Make work jobs program for the billion slave labor insects they have to pump up their numbers
Because chinks are all about "face"
It would not be good for them to admit failure

>>520863261 (OP)
those big arrays are mostly fake prop panels to look big and impressive
like the big fake cities with the fake buildings

>>520863261 (OP)
ill bet that image is fake

>>520863937
~5GW/month solar vs ~ 3GW/month coal.

>>520864404
Its about making themselves less dependent on imports for their energy needs . Coal is good and they can pollute however much they want but they're still importing coal. Solar is so they can be more self sufficient. They currently cannot domestically meet, without imports, all their energy demands

>>520865113
Yes it's much the same elsewhere too. Sanctions, tariffs, shitholes blowing up boats that sail past, all showing that if you can't get it locally you're up a creek when the manure reaches the air circulator.

>>520863261 (OP)
>if solar is a scam
its a scam in the west where health, safety, wokesters and market forces operate
china doesnt care about strip mining for the materials
chinese are worked like slaves
disposal of toxic waste not an issue
china doesnt give a rat's azz about desert turtles dying from blotting out the landscape
any environmentalists who complain get gulaged
generally, cost isnt a concern bc totalitarian gov just orders it to be done or else

>>520865481
Yep and they already can produce a lot of solar panels. It makes the most sense for them. If China had the energy resources that the US had, they'd be OP. We have enough oil to make enough gasoline for every car in the US and enough nat gas and coal too. God made sure the chinks didnt have oil. The Lord is wise

>>520863850
That and the chinks don't care about the environmental hazards of solar farms or decommissioned solar panels.

>>520865943
China has access to Venezuelan oil fields.

>>520863261 (OP)
China wants to use ecology as a way to clear their image. Solar panels are a scam though.

>>520865913
Yeah. People have this retardation where they think the chinese state is the same as a western state. Western states dont wield as much power and as freely as the ccp. Ccp can do literally anything it wants. Western states get cucked with lawsuits and protests and elections etc.

Solar is fine, as long as you don’t get the dumb idea that it’s going to replace fossil fuels.

>>520863261 (OP)
They're falling for the scam. It's all going to fall apart in just two more weeks.

>>520866009
>Venezuelan
Venezuela isnt in china.... chinese have no oil of their own. If every chink drives an EV than they only need oil, and gasoline/diesel/jet fuel, for PLA purposes. What if a war breaks out? PLA and CCP arent stupid. They cant count on tankers from venezuela to make it to them during a US/China war
Iranian oil is more reliable during a war, closer. Especially with maduro making statements about wanting to cuck to Trump. He might fold during a war while ayatollah wont. Maduro would be under more pressure than cuckmeini

>>520865971
They dont care about any of that and there is no pressure on their state to do so or cuck to some eco fag like greta. They have more freedom of action than western states

>22% 'efficient' photovoltaics
>panel lifespan <10 years*
>*not accounting for weather or wear and tear
>recycling: N/A
Pinkoes are all about PROPAGANDA -- not only to fool insular, know-nada laowai; but, of import, to keep in check the domestic ructions which can turn in to 100-year wars.

>bigger = better
>tofu dreg >>> house for lifetime
>planned obsolescence
>Backyard Forges 2.0

>>520864062
Incredible amounts of muttoid coping.

>>520866432
Building huge solar arrays is actually a good decision by the ccp

>>520863261 (OP)
because they can produce it cheaply

>>520866468
Yeah. The solar panels have more utility than ghost cities.

>>520863845
It's to house African refugees when they eventually start coming to China after they run out of free gibs in Europe.
Some already do go there.

>>520866320
Didn't you know bro, people have always had free global trade during wars bro

>>520865971
Solar farming on arid desert land actually improves the environment

>>520866591
Most of them aren't even plugged into the grid. They are just modern art pieces/make work projects for China.

>Solar powered night street lights, no batteries.

>>520866759
you are not very smart, you can literally see the battery behind them

>>520863261 (OP)
They have the vertical integration set up for it, plus they dont give a fuck about poisoning their groundwater with lithium/rare earth mines.
At least we export it to African shitholes

>>520863845
Ironically, this is a sound Hegelian model, as it allows for building into infinity. Indeed, it's how the chinks managed to slave labour themselves out of their Dickensian mire, and in only a quarter century. The catch is that, when investors dry up --- inevitable; and in an ageing, closed society, very imminent -- and extant $ucker$ start making margin calls, the shit collapses faster than a tofu dreg edifice in a zephyr.

>>520863845
oh no, their future children will have cheap housing, the fucking horror of it
how will goldstein and boomers get their passive income now???

>>520866406
Western states still have the freedom to do what they want, they do what they want all the time. They even arrested Greta for bothering Israel.
They just don't want people to have nice things and to give money to Israel

>>520863261 (OP)
Trump is in the pocket of (((big oil)))

>>520866622
Yeah people are retarded. CCP is trying to be less reliant on energy imports and energy imports they get, try to make those over land, like imports from Iran and Russia. The Caribbean and the Panama canal is not their domain during a war. Its sensible for the CCP to want to reduce risks to Chinas energy supply. People can debate the efficacy of solar vs energy sources but the chinks are making do with what they have.
If they had something like the marcellus shale formation, they would have a lot of nat gas plants. But they dont. So they don't. And instead they make solar panels.

>>520863261 (OP)
bureaucratic inertia and corruption.

>>520866915
CCP can kill someone like greta for confronting the state and opposing the state and trying to direct state policy. No western government can kill someone like Greta. Not saying one is better than the other its just a fact that CCP can treat its populace in ways that western governments cannot

>>520863335
Because they make them cheap and don't have to buy them from anyone

>>520867083
The Suez canal isn't in their domain either and the US Navy is fighting (and losing) to keep it open for Chinese trade to Israel.

>>520863261 (OP)
It's china doing what china does best, cranking out cheap shit that needs replaced far too often.

>>520867184
Fair point, but western governments are still doing what they want while people complain. Look at England and France.

>>520866909
>Live in a building that hasn't had maintenance done on it in 40 years
>And land lease ends in 30 years
>Buildings only designed to last 60 years.
Not sure you've thought this out

>>520863335
>Because China loves scams you moron
FPBP.

>>520867394
>Inb4 that's just spray on grass

>>520867254
Suez is closer to china than the Panama canal. Venezuela has to send ships west through the carribean to china or all the way around south america. Caribbean is more the domain of the US than the persian/arabian gulf. China can more quickly establish a presence there than the Caribbean around venezuela. The suez would be contested more during a US/China war than the Panama canal. Suez also has euros from the north. Apples and oranges

>>520867394
what a depressing fucking hell scape.

>>520863261 (OP)
Calling solar a scam is retarded.

Solar has essentially no downsides... up to a saturation point. Once you pass the saturation point is where you get extreme diminishing returns.

Here is the percentage of solar power for some random countries:
>Germany: 15%
>US: 7%
>China: 3.5%
>Saudi Arabia 1% (kek)
I suspect only Germany is past the saturation point.

>>520867519
My point was more than even there the US is the reason it's accessible. In a ww3 situation China would even be able to access the Suez.
Ironically I don't think tptb see the food and resource insecure China as a threat. All their actions point to them not actually caring about China.
Resource and food secure Russia with their industrial base is causing endless western seethe though.

>>520866509
Of course, it is:
1. It supplies whatever amount of power to where no distended, teetering dams can be built.

2. It spends funny money on infrastructure, which then ticks the boxes which apparatchiks need ticked in order climb up the politburo ladder.

3. It's cheap propaganda to spam at the laowai peanut gallery.

It's win-win-win... until the music stops. That's why Dumbf caved to Xi and the REE noose: The chink tentacles so deeply embedded in the global economy, that if they were extracted by force, the host would die on the organ harvesting slab. So, it's in everyone's interest that China remain "stronk" and it's fake (((GDP))) continually sustain or grow. The musical chairs sans chairs, globalist economy had to be a "keiretsu" latticework, or else it could never have worked. That is, "bail-outs" can be done under many monikers, via infinite indirect methods, applied continually, and over a protracted period.

>>520867588
>Solar has essentially no downsides.
>Peak power output is lowest power consumption part of the day
>Panels are expensive
>Panels only last 10 years
>Panel manufacturing is extremely polluting.
>Not as efficient as nuclear and can't be used as base power
>Cannot be used as on demand power
>Unreliable power generation
>Causes massive soil erosion if installed incorrectly

>>520867374
Sure, there is tyranny here and elsewhere in the west, but its not the same and keir doesnt wield the same power as Xi. Keir and Labour face power struggles from Reform and Farage and other parties. The power struggles that Xi faces are only from factions within the CCP. CCP is a totalizing state in ways western countries are not. Someone can debate what style of governance is better but the state has more power in China than the west. Do you think Xi would tolerate foreigners mass raping Chinese? No he wouldnt. He tolerated Han Chinese oppressing and raping uighur women because he used the state to repress ethnic minorities. Not a weak state like Keir where the minorities are doing the repression. Its not the same. The costs of freedom.

>>520867801
Do you really not understand conditional statements, anon?

Did you know that the breakfast question is a conditional? You just failed the equivalent of the breakfast question.

>>520867382
>designed to last 60 years
I don't know where you got that from... Waterfront tofu dregs in the upmarket Shenzhen cannot re-sell after <5 years, due to the buildings falling to bits. Not even Three Gorges was built to last 60 years; let alone, the "1,000" it dimwit politburo propaganda spouted.

https://youtu.be/wJ8JBTIVUVw?t=450

>>520868115
statement:
>Solar has essentially no downsides
conditional:
>up to a saturation point.
conditional has no bearing on any of the list of downsides i gave. But please keep seething

>>520866880
damn he's strong

>>520863261 (OP)
>Why do the chinese like to waste tons of resources that will then need to be buried and pollute the Earth
That's a good question actually.

>>520863261 (OP)
Because they'll built up an entire infrastructure and stock to sell to Hillary continuing green new deal soft war against America. Then trump won and so they had to recoup sunk cost. Also they cook all their books so letting these over valued companies implode would have rugpulled a not insignificant part of their economy and possibly caused domino effects of other Enron tier accounting

>>520868266
>60 years
You're correct, I was wrong. There designed lifetime is only 50 years and most don't even make it that long.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261919301072

>We found an overall downward trend of building lifetimes during 1950–1989 and a gradual climb-up since 1990s. However, the present Chinese building lifetime appears still far below the design lifetime (50years).

>>520868507
50 years if not maintained. if maintained then they can work forever.

>>520868577
Chinese don't maintain anything. And that figure is with maintenance.

>>520863261 (OP)
They dont care about electronic waste pollution.

Trump is very reasonable and a positive force in some ways, a fool in many others. This is one of the latter.

>>520868507
The "50" has to be a median or average, as many don't last a decade--even if they aren't deliberately razed as part of the "ghost city" faux economy; and without considered the myriad natural disasters which plague the country's huge landmass and region.

>>520863261 (OP)
> if solar is a scam like trump says why is CHINA going all in on it?

Solar isn’t a scam necessarily. The chinks are going all in on any power sources that aren’t oil related. They want to build out a massive electrical capacity to make sure they can build the best AIs, but also reduce their strategic vulnerabilities to globohomo cutting off their access to middle eastern oil whenever war breaks out.

Ive actually been in china last year and Ive been in the usa a couple times and their cities are put together far better than most mutt cities. much safer, much cleaner, far better infrastructure, more interesting, cheaper, friendly people etc

>>520869086
> as many don't last a decade

Many of these cities are far older than a decade, what are you talking about? Furthermore, Americans live in some of the cheapest built and shitty homes on the planet in terms of longevity.
>globohomo forces us to build plywood shitboxes that jews sell for a cool million which will fall apart in 70 years at most

>>520869250
And what about middle eastern countries cutting off the US access to middle eastern oil?

>>520869250
>aren’t oil related
*aren't oil or nat gas or coal
The aussie coal is getting cut off during a war. Russian nat gas might go away.

China has a desert and doesn't care if their water supply is poisoned by the heavy metals leaching from the panels

>>520869486
https://cwrrr.org/opinions/chinas-war-on-pollution-10-years-of-the-water-ten-plan/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

WRONG

>>520869357
> and their cities are put together far better than most mutt cities

Their cities are actually designed, and intended to be nice places for large numbers of people to live. Our cities were designed by lobbyists from the auto industry for example. Not so that they’d be nice places for people to live and work, but so that the goyim would have no choice but to purchase a vehicle for getting to and from work.
Nothing is ever designed here to actually make life better, more fulfilling and inspirational. It’s always done to maximize jew shekels and nothing else.

>>520863261 (OP)
China does lot of performative acts + they can make everything 100 times cheaper then in US for example.

In US there is Jewish tax there is Chinese tax and shit that could be made in US are made somewhere in some shithole.

>>520869441
> Russian nat gas might go away.

They’ll get everything they could need from the Russians. The Russians will build pipelines if nothing else.
Middle Eastern crude and things like coal from globohomo nations are definitely at risk though, so they’re mitigating that I believe.

>>520869408
>Americans live in some of the cheapest built and shitty homes on the planet in terms of longevity.
The fact that they can still live in those places, is testament to the quality of the builds. That, and (pro tip) if a discussion discursively veers into a "CHINA BETTER THAN IMPERIALIST PIG!" rant, it's Wu Mao.

>>520863261 (OP)
Good luck transporting all those sun rays to places that need it. The battery revolution hasn't happened yet

>>520867588
All "renewable energy" is a scam. Ever since these things first started popping up in northern Europe at the start of the 00s they kept promising that the technology to stabilize them is just around the corner but so far this has never materialized and it probably never will. It's great for drawing in governments and investors as long as someone can get on stage and sell the dream the money train will keep chugging along. If you can base the economic growth of the world super power on a chatbot bubble you can do anything.

>>520869600
Some 80% of all chink water is unfit for human consumption.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/more-than-80-percent-of-chinas-groundwater-polluted-2031587

>>520863261 (OP)
>If an ineffective energy product that requires mass manufacturing and monopolized rare resources is a scam, then why is the world's premiere manufacturing giant with low ethical principles all in on it

>>520869796
I have no great stake in the argument. My grandparents home that was built in the early 70’s in the manner I described is also falling apart. Wooden shit doesn’t stand up to the elements very well over time compared to other materials, go figure.
The chinks have built out dozens of cities each with skylines more impressive than NYC just in my lifetime alone. Those cities and places aren’t falling apart.

When I was in Europe, most people had homes that were made of brick, stone and other better materials. I know families that have the same homes as their great grandparents. We rarely have anything like that here. These days it’s a miracle even American kids have two sets of grandparents or even know them, much less inherit a family home.

>>520869804
Nothing is "renewable" because the byproduct of work is the changing of states of matter, which then requires more work to change back into whatever is being "renewed".

Like with how they leave out the explanation of "net neutral" -- spoiler: corporations make environmental D. E. I. style investments and receive "carbon credits" for doing so, which they then "spend" on continuing to pollute / increasingly pollution output, which lecturing the plebes on eating human food and farting -- they never tell you how they actually do the "renewing" of the solar panels, lithium batteries, turbine blades, battery meme cars et al....

>>520869727
Russian resources arent risk free or 100% guaranteed. Trump is very conciliatory to Russia because he wants to drive a wedge between them and China. Chinese made solar panels have much less risk than any imported energy. Russian and Iranian energy is probably their least risky. If NK had oil they would be getting oil from them. It is what is. CCP has sought autarky but they are entangled in global markets and need to export. The free traders were wrong that allowing china to enter would make them liberalize and end the ccp but it did entangle the ccp with the world. They collapse without exports. It did change the trajectory of the ccp and china

>Chinks flex their manufacturing and construction prowess by building a Manhattan-sized solar field on the fucking Tibet plateau as a side project
>Langley faggots will nitpick and kvetch when their own country cannot lay down 100km of fast rail in 20 years.
Hilarious

>>520863261 (OP)
Our politicians ruined the solar industry in germany. Chinkmen ramp up their own solar industry. Winniethepooh figured that now is the time to build a shitload of solar panels since they have a powerful solar industry and can produce cheap and effective solar panels. Winniethepooh orders them to build lots of those. Chinks win.

>>520869913
If you threw a match into that river, would it catch fire?

>>520866622
Can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely retarded. The first thing that is destroyed in a war are MI inputs.

>>520863261 (OP)
It should be clear by now that everything the orange nigger say is wrong.

>>520870630
The chinese state is much stronger than the German state. Xi would never allow millions of browns living off gibs and raping and killing Chinese

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>TWO MORE WEEEKS
>WE MUST GIVE ANOTHER TRILLION TO ELON MUSK
>WHO GETS HIS BATTERIES FROM CHINA BTW

>>520863261 (OP)
Because gas and coal executives are giving Trump hand jobs.

>>520870697
Im pretty sure he posted that in jest. In response to the other anon who replied to my post saying China doesnt have oil, with saying china has access to Venezuelan oil fields

>>520867382
based comfy post apocalypse zombie movie hideout
the jews biggest fear is that enough white people will drop out of their jewish humiliation ritual society

>>520870473
> Russian resources arent risk free or 100% guaranteed.

No shit, nothing in this world is. You think the chinks are going to just side with globohomo against the Russians though? The Russians aren’t geopolitically threatening the Chinks, Russian society isn’t girding and preparing for a war with the chinks.
The disagreements that drove the Sino-Soviet split are long gone.
Globohomo has done a relatively poor job isolating an exporting state like the Chinks (compared to what globohomo did to Nazi Germany in the 1930’s). I don’t think the chinks are going to reach a point of economic export starvation like globohomo hopes they will.
They still and will always have other massive potential trading partners, that’s the point of BRICS. The Belt and Road system is largely land based in states globohomo doesn’t really influence much.

>>520870723
eggs are right now cheaper than they have been under biden, keep up

>>520863261 (OP)
>Trump
>right about anything

>>520870125
>Wooden shit doesn’t stand up
That's where up-keep comes into the equation. Anything that's left to the elements, passes, palls, and perishes.

>more impressive than NYC
Subjective; objectively not before September 11th, 2001.

>homes that were made of brick, stone and other better materials
Yes; not the pig iron and combustible cladding that tofu dregs are comprised of.

I'm not saying that the Western equivalents of TODAY are almost as bad as what the chinks throw up... It's the very pressures of chink presence in the global economic stage, that has created the race to the bottom that has rendered modern infrastructure so planned obsolescence compliant. What I am saying is that China is a Potemkin Peking that only 'works' if, and ironically so, it hyper-adheres to the capitalist infinite growth model; growth that can only be made using corncob filled cinderblocks and Balsa wood 'tensile' reinforcement rods... Doing it in an environment of First World standards and ethics, simply could not sustain such massive, unsustainable expansion.

>>520863261 (OP)
they are going hard on every form of energy, including solar. Ever thought of that? They have billions of people needing electricity so they build... everything.

>>520863261 (OP)
>going all in
That would entail them retiring their coal, gas and nuke plants. protip, they won't

>>520863261 (OP)
>if solar is a scam like trump says why is CHINA going all in on it?
because they have a million square miles of otherwise useless desert

>>520863261 (OP)
>Climate activists: Just turn all your natural landscape into solar and wind farms

Are these climate retards for real?

Because china is fucking retarded and only cares about face and propaganda. Imagine being dumber than a chink to fall for the CCP's propaganda. All chinese people know how full of shit the CCP is, they only pretend not to out of fear of the CCP and out of spite for the rest of the world.

>>520863261 (OP)
Because they were supposed to be their new host

>>520870898
He is right about something tho

>>520871000
Yes. They are that fucking retarded and it's by design.

>>520870650
I'd guess that even sustained sunlight will make it combust... Luckily for chinks, they no longer have a Sun.

>>520871021
You look like a retard for posting that fake quote. Congratulations, retard, you sure showed the bad orange man what for.

>>520871000
China is not doing it because of climate activism. China is doing it because they are the only ones trying to reach K1.
Check'd your retarded post though.

>>520871000
like fucking 90% of land in america has nothing on it, adding some solar panels isnt going to ruin the environment.

>>520870753
>:(

>waahhhh!
>IF IT INSULTS ME OR MY GOD PRESIDENT, THEN IT'S FAKE!

>>520871021
The dumber the public figure, the more often they will be caught out speaking the truth.

>>520871103
They're doing it to own the west, particularly America. Look at their dumb/gay push to prove how they are the future by pulling dumb stunts or doing things we did years ago and claiming to be the first to do it, like that robot soccer match, or baking something in space.

>>520865113
Solar is a temporary stepping stone for them until they can dam every waterway and build crazy fission reactors.

Solar is good, but only on small scale to be honest. Until we can figure out how to harness the sun's energy without putting up giant carpets of solar farms solar is rather counter productive.

>>520870877
>isolating
The official policy of globohomo for decades was integration of china and the ccp, not isolation. Theres only a response now because people like Trump are in power and realize how dire the situation is for western countries.
An export driven country can never go full autarky because they collapse without ties to other nations and their markets. CCP cant be in in 2 worlds at once. They fucked up with those export control letters sent around the round. Id rather not see war and its true that commerce can help reduce the likelihood of war

>>520871180
You're posting fake quotes like a retard. Eat shit and kill yourself, retard.

>>520871201
They've already dammed all possible waterways. They will never get fusion to work either, no one will actually.

SOLAR WILL DESTROY THE ENVIRONMENT
THE WHOLE EARTH WILL BE DARKENED BY PANEL NIGGERS

>>520871175
Sure but I still do not want to see solar farms driving by the Death Valley

>>520871176
I capitalized the G in German =/
Its okay fren

>>520871282
Imagine the maintenance costs if they actually did cover all that flat land in that image with solar panels. It's just a flex. They do this to post pictures in western media, they then bribe western media outlets, or sometimes they do it for free because DRUMPF!, and they tell stories about how much china is numbah wan and also the future is chinese or whatever.
The propaganda is so stupid I can't help but assume the people who fall for it are doing it performatively. Surely no one really that stupid, right?

>>520867254
Midwit take. It's in the ccps best interest to close the suez, seing as they own the majority of the ports along the african route. It's why they feed targeting data to the houthis for all ships but their own, and why they've been helping iran rebuild their missile program. Also, I'd like to hear your reason for why you think the international task force in the red sea is "losing". When's the last time you even heard of them successfully attacking a ship?

>>520871289
>the Death Valley

saaar please do not be ruining your desolate landmark!

we already have solar farms there, Dinesh.

>>520870753
No; just encourage the bestial cross-breeding with sub-Saharan monkeys.

https://www.amren.com/news/2014/07/afro-chinese-marriages-boom-in-guangzhou-but-will-it-be-til-death-do-us-part/

>>520871280
>They've already dammed all possible waterways.
They want to build a gigantic dam in Tibet

>Power generation: The project is expected to generate approximately 60 gigawatts of electricity annually, which is three times the capacity of the Three Gorges Dam.

>>520871201
Theyre trying with fission, which is understandable. They have to make do with what they have. If they had lots of nat gas they would be building as many nat gas plants as they can.

>>520871532
There are no blacks in china retard.

>ctrl f
>silver
>0 results

Ngmi

>>520863261 (OP)
• It used to be. It’s more efficient, now

• China has hives and dangerously strong power lines that carry the power a long way to their hives.

>>520871433
They're also trying to wrap their tentacles around the Panama Canal too, for the same reason. To deny us access to something we fucking built. I think it's incredible how ill-prepared previous leadership left us all to deal with the world they ended up building. China should have never been opened up to the west. If it wasn't for that they'd be an irrelevant backwater.

>>520863261 (OP)
It's like all the empty condos they build. It's work paid out by the government to prop up the economy. They don't care if it's garbage, it looks good on paper.

>>520871532
Its all strictly controlled. Blacks are not allowed to live in China they all get deported eventually.

>>520871613
#SinoSeethe

>>520871416
>Imagine the maintenance costs
Why don't you tell me what the maintenance costs are mr nafo shill? Solar has no moving parts. you replace the panels once every ten years and hire the local uygger niggers to wipe them down after a sandstorm.

>>520863850
They rank 14th in the world for proven reserves. They have oil, they just have to be careful with it and save it for their military.

>>520871543
Yeah I remember that, they want to cut off india's water lol.
That will spark a war between china and india eventually.

>>520866852
Those black squares are inverters, not batteries.

>>520871532
The difference is that these africans aren't "migrants" who just walked into the country like muhammad from syria in germany. They didnt sail a boat to china. Its usually a "student cultural exchange" , yes the ccp on some level is fine with miscegenation but its not the same as the situation in Germany

>>520863845
The USA builds home the average american can't live in what's the difference.

>>520871707
>nafo shill
You're a paranoid retard.
>ignores hail and dust storms
Wear and tear alone causes all those panels to have a built-in lifespan as the material dulls and permits less sunlight to pass through. Developing nuclear fission, coal, and oil power generation is far more self-sustaining long term. Windmills and solar panels are a blight, not to mention there's no long-term power storage options. The weather is so fickle, it's like letting a regular powerplant run by rolling a dice every so often.

>>520871655
Rubio negotiated no cost travel and priority travel for all US military ships crossing the canal. Jimmy Carter really fucked the US by giving the canal away.

>>520871743
Thanks fren. Saving it for the PLA is the smart thing to do

>>520871201
Where exactly are they going to dam?

>>520871683
>believes that (((globalism))) was only about the economic angles
>not to facilitate the global (((melting pot)))
Q. Which is the only 'country' on Earth today, that is conducting ethnic cleansing, based on its perceived genetic superiority and rights for lebensraum expansionist claims, and is doing so with the aid and imprimatur of [gentile] countries who are, conversely, flooding their own biomes with the lowest caste turdies from every shit-hole failed state on the planet...?

>>520866909
Many of those apartments aren't even plumbed, electrified, or furnished with walls, they're just empty concrete cubicles that start deteriorating the moment they finish cobbling them together. Sitting empty for years will make them unlivable eventually.
I've been there, I've seen some of these ghost cities. The chinese don't build things to last they build things cheap and fast then brag about how much money they made and how quickly they made it.

>NOOOOOOOOOOO
>DON"T BLANKET THE LAND WITH SOLAR PANELS
meanwhile, pic related is literally just biological solar panels who have displaced whatever the fuck species of loser grasses who were growing there before

>>520863261 (OP)
Because they produced more than global demand like retards.

>>520871910
One of the dumbest virtue signals of all time.

>>520871978
ok jeet

>>520871788
Eat shit, bot.

>>520872082
Holy shit you are an actual retard. Amazing.

>>520871873
>Wear and tear alone causes all those panels to have a built-in lifespan as the material dulls and permits less sunlight to pass through.
unlike oil and coal plants that last forever?
oh wait those have a 40 year lifespan

>>520872098
What is? The US military not having to pay money and wait in line to cross the canal is virtue signaling?

>>520863261 (OP)
Holy dumb fuck. Maybe so they don't need other countries for energy as much? We have oil, we don't depend on outsiders for oil if there would be a need. Hello nigger brain

>>520872091
And the best part in 20 years probably way less when those panels go bad. They can't be recycled because they are so toxic. They are an environmental timebomb. Remember in 21st century you cannot fix anything with fucking else way worse then initial problem. This is called Franco's law.

>>520872259
They have silver. They will be recycled.

>>520871804
There is no difference once the nigger seed has entered the human ovum. As any honest kike will tell you, the RESULT is all that ever matters and all that anyone ever remembers; not the method.

Massive solar power projects only make sense in countries with vast amounts of unwanted land where mountains of industrial waste can be left untouched.

>>520863261 (OP)
>The Economist

OP is literally a Chink Wumao
That publication is 24/7 Pro-Chinese propaganda
Every article they post is constantly sucking China's dick
Communist Rothschilds Banker Jews
>>520863335
This
Everything about China is one big lie
Its always the same with Communists because tehy control their media and experts so they just always say their country is doing the best when its really not
China also buys out western media publications like the Economist to suck their dick also

China is doing very poorly in fact, its why Xi has been doing purges because he is afraid of losing power as China keeps sinking into the abyss.

As fuck as the US is
China is fucked harder

Worse though the Chinese will never see it coming because their government lies to them about everything

>>520863261 (OP)
He replaced the Department of Energy Secretary with a fossil fuel guy. What the fuck do you think? Everything he does is to enrich himself and his billionaire buddies.

>>520871528
We already have solar farms in the death valley?

>>520866909
building have a serviciable period aka they can only be used for a certain time. By the time children are adult those will be dust. Come up with a educated cope atleast

>>520863261 (OP)
They simply want a diversified portfolio of energy sources. Wind and solar accounts for a quarter of their electricity. It's not a scam.

>>520871655
The canal won't be a problem for as long as we have competency in the white house. It'll take another weak puppet like biden to basically cede it to "companies" run by the ccp itself.
As for containment; china was inevitable. The US became a superpower by being the global factory and exporter, and there are many examples throughout history of other nations and empires doing the same on different scales. At some point the nation/empire/city state/etc has to pivot into a different economy or risk losing their competitive advantage to the next nation with a super cheap labor force that's open to investment. You can already sort of see it happening to china with places like vietnam, malaysia, india, etc making the super cheap inputs they were making a few decades ago.

>>520872300
About twenty grams. And ither companies have replaced silver with copper.

>>520863261 (OP)
Of course its a scam. An electrical grid requires a meticulous balance between offer and demand not deviating by 2% or the whole grid fries or collapses.
Solar is great for offer of watt, when the sun shines without cloud at a perfect angle, so a whole 3 hours a year, its absolutely horrendously bad for any other of the over 9000 hours. Kill all and every employee of the solar industry, every share holder of a solar company and every bureaurat that ever signed a check for a solar company.

>>520863587
Give one potential "strategic" advantage of building solar panels.

>>520872082
Only a chink can be this fucking retarded and disconnected from nature.

>>520872321
No. They don't. If demand for the produced watt doesn't exist grid fries. If demand is too high brown out.

>>520863335
They scammed us so good developing increasingly advanced industries and fully replacing Western industries. Tell me what happened to America and Europe's steel and shipbuilding industry?

>>520871280
We have the vision and technology to do it anon... it will happen one-day. If something like the sun exists, why can't we reproduce it?

>>520872717
Energy isn't tied to extraction or import of a specific material that can be cut off at the source.

>>520871743
China only produces 25% of the oil they consume. They know they have to look to other forms of energy that aren’t as energy dense as O&G. And lots of it. They have plenty of space, even with a billion people, to tear up the land and put solar panels in.

>>520863261 (OP)
because its chinks scamming chinks

>>520872725
>millions of acres of basedbean and corn fields that only exist to feed niggers
>nature
HAHAHAHHAHAHHA
holy fuck retard

yet you're complaining about a tiny solar farm in the middle of the desert.
daily reminder that EVERY SINGLE anti-china post on this board is 100% paid for by ZOG

>>520872717
Powering the factories, even if just for a fraction of the day, with solar instead of petroleum that becomes rare after NATO initiates containment protocols.

>>520863261 (OP)
the real problem overburden on grid in day time and nothing at night. Which brings the need for storage but batteries are the worse store of energy compared to any other fuel

>>520863261 (OP)

If X is a scam why does the X factory have so many Xs.

>>520872943
You have never been outside a city. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, chink.

>>520872956
>Cloudy day
>Chinese grid irrevocable dead

>>520872861
No, its just tied to a far more difficult (impossible) to modulate set of criteria than an oil well or coal mine or dam or geothermal well or...anything. Any "strategic" benefit gained to opening a solar farm is infinitely outweighed by the benefit of opening a coal mine.

>>520863261 (OP)

Because it's not sustainable. Look at it. How often does it need constant maintenance, and at what lifetime. You're hooking up to a grid that needs constant output for its demands at non stop usage. It fails and it's a disaster, like in Spain/Portugal, it simply got too hot. It reflects and it can start fires and glares and reflections. Let's add some more extreme weather. A sandstorm. Winds. Rains. Lights out. A disposal grid that generates how much waste. Those panels are super wasteful. They have copper and lead and acids generating a charge. Breaking down is a cost redundancy. Any output weakens over time and they need a bunch of batteries to storage when not making a charge or are generating more charge. It is susceptible to the elements, if you went to that scale you'd probably want to concrete any ground stability, and further shield or cover. Now you're at a cost redundancy and are completely unecological. They can accompany the grid, adding some surplus or usage, but they aren't a solution. On that scale they are sooner a risk. They aren't clean or green. Parts are made and parts break, causing waste. It is constant maintenance and when in disaster it is the most susceptible means of power to any failure.

>>520873015
Cloudy day. China has to tap into other energy sources for that day. It's called diversification. Anyone that thinks in absolutes is a retard

>>520863261 (OP)
IT'S NOT REAL SOLAR

>>520872861
This supports the argument for the West not to adopt solar panels as we import them from China.

>>520872956
>instead of petroleum
What? How many Chinese factories do you think are powered by petroleum?

>>520873014
my city is infinitely better than your acres of acres of cowshit pastures and niggerbean farms that exist only to feed niggers
farm land smells like manure, everywhere and all the time. there is nothing natural about a farm.

>>520873247
Natural gas, whatever. For outside the cities it's a different story. The ccps electrification is not going as well as they want everyone to believe. There's still an inordinate number of small villages that rely on diesel generators to keep their cottage industry afloat. That includes the limited farming they have.

>>520863261 (OP).

Solar power in general is a scam, you can make a nuclear power plant in a smaller area of land, and still produce as much electric power as solar panels.

And don't get me started on maintenance issues, and land cost instead of making it into a productive farmland area. Plus, not everyday is a sunny day.

Even so, in a smaller country, The Green's solar powerism priority worsens the conditions of an already packed small country.

None of the Left-wing Green's proposals make any sense, and it sucks ass, and costs billions of cash that could've had been invested on nuclear technology, and agriculture entirely.

This solar panel agenda by Green Socialists also contributes to their Socialist Green agenda, other e-Green Technology will add fuel to the fire to prototyping of Green-approved technology, thereby killing the economy. LOL.

>>520871003
Average Chinese grandparents were subsistence village peasants. They can safely walk their streets at night to cyberpunk light shows with no nigger crime. Their country has more and more clout and prestige on the world stage. Why the fuck would they hate their government?

>>520873268
Your dear leader mr. Pooh cucked to Trump for a taste of those delicious onionbeans.

>>520873086
No no, let china cook. I want to see what happens. On liveleak.

>>520863261 (OP)
Texas too
Makes sense to have an extra power source on sweltering summer days. Municipal solar panels can also be deconstructed in a SHTF situation and reused to charge batteries.

>>520872098
No, Carter giving it away. Use your head.
>>520872192
You are the dumbest solar shill.

>>520873443
Your people should never be allowed to operate a nuclear power plant on your disaster-prone islands.

this thread is a goldmine of cope. americans simply cannot deal with the fact that china won so hard in solar technology.

>>520863261 (OP)
>>520863261 (OP)
do they have hailstorms in China?

>>520873418
>Natural gas, whatever.
You don't know the first thing about electrical generation in the 20th or 21st centuries and I'm supposed to take your opinion on a conversation about electrical generation seriously?

The rest of your post had nothing to do with the conversation. Pretty sure you're just a bot now. This website is trash these days.

>>520872854
>the sun does it
This has yet to be proven. The underlying principles are based on an assumption that happens to be wrong. Fusion doesn't happen as mainstream science says it does in the cores of stars, we are chasing after something that does not occur in nature. What I just said might sound like heresy to someone who only knows the standard model of cosmology.

>>520863335
fpbp

>>520863261 (OP)
Economist is a disgusting left-wing rag btw

>>520873822
You have to go back.

A big factor of this is to do with the disposal of them. You could get radiation poisoning pretty bad along with whatever other hellish chemicals in them. The manufacture and sourcing of the materials is similarly devastating. Chinks just throw them in the ocean and get a new one from the guy down the street so it makes sense for them.

>>520873926
It is
They recently published an article about how White people having children is bad
Its globalist lugenpresse
https://x.com/TheEconomist/status/1986831038576841202?t=qEbqq7ZualXjWkq8TGcBmg&s=19

>>520873086
Coal and NatGas is much better

>>520871021
Growing up with this fucking shit really fucking sucked. I fucking hate Fox News. Not because of their political bias or lack of accuracy, but because it was ON THE FUCKING TV FOR FUCKING EVER after 9/11.

Then, we had the pandemic. Just think of the same dumb fucking people trying to grasp something so complex. I'm just glad that I was out of the house before all of those Fox News zombies in the family decided to eat my brain.

>>520873485
>anti-china shill is also a trump shill
more like donnie dumbass whimpered back home with his tail between his legs
let's be real though, the "tarriffs" were just an excuse to crash the stock market so that his jew buddies could profit off of front running it

>>520873725
you still haven't provided numbers for maintaining a solar farm. daily reminder that with solar you do not need to:

- survey the earth to find the fuel
- dig a giant pit in the ground to get the fuel
- deliver that fuel thousands of miles
- build a giant reactor to house whatever you're burning
- worry about air pollution next to a city

>bububut you have to maintain the panels
no shit idiot, everything needs maintenance. you think a giant oil tanker doesn't need maintenance either?

>>520873086
>How often does it need constant maintenance, and at what lifetime.
Why don't you actually attempt to find out for yourself?

>Solar energy is now so cost-effective that, in the sunniest countries, it costs as little as £0.02 to produce one unit of power, making it cheaper than electricity generated from coal, gas or wind, according to a new study from the University of Surrey.


Funny how the maintenancefag has zero idea about the maintenance cost of anything. He just heard someone on TV say that solar was high-maintenance one time and that was enough for him.

when we go to WW3 between US-China, oil will be the chokepoint.

>>520873832
We know how the sun works... again, why can we not replicate it? That's the question, it's not a question of, how does it work, it's a question of can we mimic it?

The sun is not some fantasy, gravity and physics aren't a fantasy, it's reality.

>>520863261 (OP)
The ostensible purpose of alternative energy was to eliminate dependence on imported fossil fuels. Especially vis-a-vis Russia. Which the United States hoped to economically isolate to keep Russian influence out of Europe. Thereby maintaining American influence there. Not only does Europe have almost no energy, neither does America's other vassals. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.

Basically, the solar push was geopolitical, not economic, and definitely not environmental. When we first started pushing alternative-energy, Western countries had a near monopoly on the technologies. The problem is that China began investing heavily. Mostly because they are also dependent on imported energy, but also because they understood the game, and because they knew they could develop a near-monopoly on the inputs(rare-earths, lithium, etc).

This has created a dilemma for America. If we stick to oil, we empower Russia. If we move to alternatives, we empower China.

America is currently playing a weird game of trying to expand our domestic oil production to hold down oil prices to reduce Russian oil revenues in hopes of bankrupting Russia with the aim of collapsing the Russian state into Balkanization. But we cannot increase our oil production any further, and we are burning through our reserves. We tried to pressure the Saudis to use their influence in OPEC to increase production, but the Arab monarchies told us to fuck off.

If we cannot increase production, we at least need to hold down demand with renewables. The problem is, over the long-term we will not keep Europe regardless of what we do. The best we can hope for at this point is to create a schism/competition between Russia and China, as well as between China and the Middle-East/India/etc.

why are western media like this?

>>520874401
I love leaf cope. You know your fate is being a chinese colony or a jeet colony or annexed by the US. Failure of canada is a guarantee

>>520867588
The downside is the amount of energy required to create them

>>520876614
>You know your fate is being a chinese colony or a jeet colony or annexed by the US.
your country is already half spic
you yourself ARE a spic
just stop talking, paco

Absolutes are retarded
Even if it's only good when sunny during the day it can easily be a boon to offset increased AC usage during those times to relieve strain on other parts of the grid

>>520873926
>left-wing
Kitchen Yiddish belongs in kosher restaurants.

>>520863261 (OP)
They have to power their gaming city somehow

Solar in the US is a scam because the feds give billions in grant money for lesbians to put 10kW of solar on their roof in Foggyshithole, Maine (days of sun per year: 3)

China covers entire deserts in panels (literally, the entire Kubuqi desert north to south), for 1/50th the cost and with 4x the annual output per panel.

Solar isn't a scam in the US when Texas and Arizona build it by the GW. But the Green Raw Deal was blatant gibs to shitlibs from top to bottom.

>>520877078
More leaf cope

>>520872335
every time i see the economist they're doomposting about china
nice kike lies

>>520877618
>muh cope muh sneed muh seed and feed
the fact is that all arguments against solar become moot when you compare them to the alternative

>muh maintenance
everything must be maintained. i already addressed this. solar panels are not anything special

>muh waste
everything is an environmental disaster. there are billions of dead tires sitting around in africa. half of the phillipines is the world's garbage dump. what the fuck do you do with an old nuclear power plant? the concrete alone takes years to get rid of and then you got all the spent shit you gotta store somewhere.
so why do solar panels draw special complaint?

>muh land
if you're not going to complain about crops, which take up WAY more area than power generation (and which can be grown inside and vertically, see the Netherlands) then you have no standing to complain about solar panels which are far less destructive to the environment than anything agricultural. Agriculture requires fertile land which is often plains and sometimes the land under felled forest. Solar panels do best when they're planted in worthless scrub land.

>>520867394
>No leaves on trees
>Spraying grass to make it green
So, are they just compensating for the fact it's winter and things are naturally bland? Not to be a fag, but part of the fun of seasons are the fact they change

>>520863335
This. Its another ghost city. Never gonna be used but building it causes economy churn and fights stagnation.

>>520878207
>there are billions of dead tires sitting around in africa. half of the phillipines is the world's garbage dump. what the fuck do you do with an old nuclear power plant?
India could use some renovations

>>520863261 (OP)
they like cheap and fast things that nuclear aren't. they make millions of dollar panels and storage batteries, why not put the surplus to use.

slave labor just works
that's why it's coming to the US

pol wignats seethe endlessly about china but the powers that be are going to turn the US into a second china with a surveillance apparatus and forced labor

>>520878207
Yeah ccp is smart to use solar panels. I already said that in this thread
But elbows up buddy

>>520867394
>>520867506
>>520867563
>China trying to make their landscaping more attractive.
What exactly do you think this video proves? People do this all the time here in America. They sell the grass paint at Lowes, Walmart, Home Depot, etc.

https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/grass-paint

https://www.lowes.com/pd/EnviroColor-32-oz-4Evergreen-Grass-and-Turf-Paint/1000618811

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC2f01NaqFw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-pJJhXr5q4

>>520879413
oh no no no, my narrative

>>520872861
What are solar panels made of?

>>520865943
Then god gave China rare earths for??

>>520863261 (OP)
additive, they also have a fuck ton of coal and cheapest nuclear. power is power.

>>520863335.

fpbp.

Rothschild's Economist has really been shilling for China for the past couple of months.

>>520873765.

Japan is might fit on that category, yet Japan is disaster resilient, and has no lethalities, unlike India. Your point?

>>520880209
>yet Japan is disaster resilient, and has no lethalities
??? Fukushima was literally worse than Chernobyl

>>520863261 (OP)
Retards tried to get ahead of the curve but ended up betting on the wrong horse. No one gives a fuck about "global warming" anymore.

Why do solar panels, wind turbine generators and batteries enrage Americans?

>>520870125
Europe doesn't have hurricanes and tornadoes which will say fuck your bricks, imma just lift up your roof. And I'll suck up your wall bricks too. And the surface of your street.

>>520863261 (OP)
Because polluted, emaciated and destitute former farmland has no other use imbecile

>>520879798
Yeah. Not only that, but when I read the comments on the video, the reason a lot of people choose to spray their grass is because in dry climates, the only other way to have green grass is to water the fuck out of it. And even that is no guarantee.

>>520866880
They'll just invade their neighbors retard

>>520883313
Yeah and also the chinese are dumb... it certainly is a scam when trump says so.

>>520872806
>advanced industry
>steel and boat
lmao

>>520883339
America's lawn culture i will never understand. Is it a white thing?

>>520863335
Fibbity bippity boo, missed your quads but its cool
Shiggity diggity dee, gibs me dat shit fo free

>>520883480
>Is it a white thing?
I wouldn't say white. More like, rich white. Or at least, uppity white. Poor whites get written up by the city for not mowing.

>>520863261 (OP)
Because china is a scam country just like india.

>>520863261 (OP)
China currently uses coal for 60% of its power needs and wants a more reliable means to generate power. China's coal fields are always on fire, and China lies about it, and they lose 200 million tons of coal a year to fires.
At least with solar hexavalent chromium in the water supply will solve the people living to old age problem.

>>520863261 (OP)
Hey, so if these panels supposedly absorb energy and then transfer it for use somewhere else, wouldn't that make the ground underneath of the solar panels a lot colder than if they were just shade?

>>520863261 (OP)
brainlet here, isn't reflecting that much heat back kind of bad for the atmosphere and birds and planes and stuff?

>>520863261 (OP)
What the world needs is a better form of energy storage not a means of generation. The amount of potential natural energy produced by nature each day by wind and tidal energy alone is enough to meet the whole planets needs. But solar isn't a meme either, if we could store even 0.01% of the solar energy that hits earth in a day that would be about 4 billion TWh, the entire planet only uses 500 TWh per day.

>>520863335
>>520878622
But they're using the solar panels. They're generating power.

>>520884290
its desert areas

>>520884008
> coal fields are always on fire
What?

>>520863261 (OP)
>These people who set up all these solar panels in their desert are smart!
>Was it always a desert?
Huh...really makes you stink huh?

>>520884102
>wouldn't that make the ground underneath of the solar panels a lot colder than if they were just shade?
they raise chickens and ducks underneath the panels

niggertards will actually look at hundreds of miles of plastic and metal and say its renewable

>>520879994
Keep things interesting
Balancing. They have rare earths but not abundant oil and natural gas. Its what it is. The Lord works in mysterious ways. For our own safety. This world is temporary and ruled by the devil until Jesus returns, which likely wont be in the lifetime of anyone posting here right now. Until then, its devil world. Cope however you want to

>>520879856
crystalized hopes and dreams of Chinese workers. The CCP uses up their human-minerals completely, nothing goes to waste.

>>520884625
Most of China's coal seams have fires in them. Chinese were stupider in the past and often used fire around them.

https://dialogue.earth/en/energy/6296-the-world-s-longest-burning-fires-china-s-unseen-story/

>>520875947
America should stop funding green, commie and liberal organisations in Europe. There's plenty of nuclear and biofuels but Uncle Sam's goons keeps sabotaging development.

>>520863261 (OP)
It's not a scam you dumb fuck. It's just not feasable in cloudy rainy places like UK and Germany. Fuck! Leftists are stupid.

>>520863261 (OP)
What better use for a desert without niggers do you propose?

>>520884008
> they lose 200 million tons of coal a year to fires
> “China’s coal fires destroy millions of tons of coal every year,” says Carsten Drebenstedt, a surface mining professor from Technische Universität Bergakademie Freiberg in Germany who has studied the fires. In fact, the country’s coal fires consume 20 million tons of coal annually and render ten times that amount inaccessible.
>>520886084

>>520863261 (OP)
It's not a scam, jew golem trump is protecting jew power assets.

>>520863261 (OP)
Because Chinks are stupid and fell for the jewish scam

>>520863261 (OP)
China has cheap labor and materials
Its working for them not for america.

>>520886143
Why would America do that?

The only thing Chyna is going all in on is deception and it's doing it well!

Pipelines from Russia, more energy from Russia in the future as eu is left in the dust. Energy from middle East... resources from Africa, Russia... South America!

And, more silver stocked up under guise of solar energy production among masking what energy they gather.
And diversification, solar is OK only few panels dor each household in case of war! And a battery.
Strategic not forced layered blockchain defense and resilience, without destroying their economy, manufacturing, and above all without pissing off their population and forcing shit that dosent work plus flooding them with incompatible migrants and thus preserving hegemonial cohesive strength to Win.

Get it!

US Military needs to, Must, must and must hang the triatirs here and in Europe Publicly. No shortcuts, because... well, if its not clear y now then what can I say.

You see anon, cutting China off will piss off the world, because they all have ties and not to mention kill us as well!

We must be smarter about things, it's painful, the truth, but truth is the only way to maybe z Maybe make it.

>>520863261 (OP)
China is throwing money at literally anything that looks even remotely profitable.
Green energy has its niche applications, but it will never be advantageous to use it everywhere. The future lies with nuclear energy.

>>520886341
Can't even blame the modern CCP as most of them started hundreds of years ago.

Silver is plentiful but very useful when a nation has it in large quantities and copper... for future use that is, Technology.


Only if the nation has energy, and ccp has it, not just energy but means like cables, transporters, machines for the grid.

And wasting time hindering it is suicide, the whole world will isolate us.

Military quickly releasing crimes of domestic and eu treason crimes against children preferably and labs covid ect... and executing them to Remove them, move them out of rhe way to pivot Quickly towards redesign, coherence z grid, energy z production without meanwhile being Sanctioned and Shun by the World is Important and Productive way to utilize the bit of strength we have left that is useful vs mutual suicide.

There was always only one way, patching shit won't help and will and is leading towards loss.

>>520874401

You're stupid.

Cheap is best because it fails quickest. They love this. I mean Spain. Texas. The entire grid gone for days almost a week leaving a bunch of idiots without power. Let's add something more extreme than the weather getting hot and cold. Rains or desert Sands or a Snowstorm. You're shit out luck. Breakable disposable grids are toxic. Cheap because they don't recycle and constantly break. Maintenance. The same Maintence that got it wrong under Arnie in the Nevada desert for California's grid. It still needed a much bigger back up. Then it stop being used because it wasn't worth the demands.

Maintenance as look at all those fucking panels. Where usage and weather deplete the acids maintaining their charge.

Cost redundancy recycling. And unecological, with acid and lead and copper, and some contain other unnatural toxicity. A simple Google can confirm that process with they cause much bigger waste.

Regardless we are discussing impact. Where maintenance break, and if you concrete and cover and protect them they aren't cheap they're suddenly ridiculously expensive. It's better they simply break right and cause far more most cases non recyclable waste?

Shove it up your monkey butt. Read bullshit off some advert believed it and didn't research.

How much more maintenance did Spain and Texas need? You fucking Dumbass. They're everywhere today insert buzzword like green and a monkey puts it up their butt. It's another con for the most part. It fails far worse because it's a disposable grid. It belongs in the trash for the most part. Sure as I said it can add to a grid demanding increasing use but reliance on it is an exercise in stupidity.

>>520863261 (OP)
China only cares about China. Solar panel manufacturing pollutes Africa

>>520867382
Ghost cities aren't real, they get filled up in a few years
Even the American guy who coined the term and made money selling books about it admits he was wrong in the end

>>520887877
Or everyone moves out of them and they become ruins. I suppose technically the farms use the area...

>The image shows the unfinished State Guest Mansions development in Shenyang, China. The project, which was started in 2010, was intended to be a luxury complex of European-style villas for millionaires. However, the developer abandoned the project, leaving the 260 homes unfinished.

>The development is now considered a "ghost town" and has been reclaimed by local farmers who use the area to grow crops and raise cattle.

>>520888271
>260 homes on the outskirts of a city of 9 milion and even the farmers took over it
meanwhile here's a 3 hours uncut driving video of shenyang
https://youtu.be/jiA4PDQsSAo?t=3158

>all of these chinese threads
>none of the chinese shills will tell me how to get a chinese wife

>>520868348
youre the only one seething, desu

>>520863261 (OP)
They do it to accumulate physical silver, without having to keep it in a vault and be easily accessible for speculation purposes.

>>520880315
>worse than chernobyl
nobody died as a direct result of the fukushima meltdown

cope

>>520865113

China plans to build approximately 150 new nuclear reactors between 2020 and 2035 to significantly increase its nuclear power capacity, which is set to reach 200 gigawatts by 2040. The country is rapidly expanding its fleet, with about half of the world's new nuclear reactors currently under construction being in China.
Short-term goal: China has plans to build 150 new nuclear reactors between 2020 and 2035.


They are also building a massive dam that could power the entire Poland.

>>520863261 (OP)
They're bumping up their ESG scores to gain preferential foreign investment incentives from uberpozzed globohomo funds. These panels are just gonna crumble in the desert and spread heavy metal and microplastic particles across the globe each time there's a sandstorm.

Same deal with the thousands of EVs that rot in vacant lots waiting to explode

>>520863261 (OP)
Everything about 'green energy' is scam

>>520863261 (OP)
What is China's plan to maintain all that?

>>520863261 (OP)
It's not, we just cant make it here as well and oil companies dont want it.

>>520863261 (OP)
china is run by the machine ai
its the foundation of 01 that you see in development there
in less than four years humanoids will be everywhere, similar (but persistent) distribution rate to that of the electric scooters that are standing around everywhere these days
the question will be what are "they" going to do with the humans ?
free food and accommodation for every human ? building real estate for free humans using automation ? who is going to pay for that army of robots that grows your food and builds your house ? yeah see humans will be culled in some unimaginable horror way ( probably ai engineered virus where a actual vaccine exists that creates immunity and which will be rolled out until the last member of "them" ( whoever that is ) is protected, then the virus will be released through advanced means beyond the usual airport / trainstation ways ( just contaminate plebian food supplies at logistic hubs using a "decontamination protocol" ( that actually sprays the virus on the packaging of the items placed in stores )
enjoy life as long as it lats for you

>>520864062
there are no ghost cities, they just build cities and then people move in.
The "ghost cities" from 10 years ago are now full of people.

>>520863261 (OP)
Solar power is both underestimate by it's opponents and overestimated by it proponents. For example you can use it in some urban places to reduce power consumption, in my village they installed sun powered led lamps, they charge during the day and shine during night, so solar power has its uses, but you other power sources for backup just in case.

>>520863261 (OP)
Solar is smart.
China already makes the solar panels and has huge swaths of desert so it makes sense.
They are actually reversing desertification.
Trump is retarded. Coal is a dying energy source and nuclear requires government guarantees and huge upfront costs.
You can run a grid off of wind, solar, and natural gas. Just keeping our existing nuke plants open provided plenty of base load.

>>520892099
Those panels can't just sit there unattended forever.

>>520863335
The cognitive dissonance on display by the people agreeing with this whose own governments have been not only doing the same shit as China, but also mass importing low IQ niggers and shitskins hand over fist and telling the public that these people are no different to them and to claim different makes them somehow morally bankrupt is fucking wild.

>Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

>>520890746
>youre the only one seething, desu
says the one seething uncontrollably as he projects his inner emotions onto others.

>>520890893
>fukushima
one guy died directly from the disaster.

>>520863335
OP didn't think this one thru