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Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520906099 [Report] >>520906477 >>520906538 >>520906559 >>520906699 >>520906940 >>520907891 >>520908060 >>520908160 >>520908257 >>520908282 >>520908324 >>520908486 >>520909029 >>520909074 >>520909515 >>520911478 >>520911580 >>520912570 >>520914275 >>520914441
China officially joined the catapult club
Anonymous (ID: g18NGuAY) Australia No.520906364 [Report] >>520906432 >>520907038 >>520907078 >>520908342 >>520908981 >>520909000 >>520911394 >>520912386 >>520912425 >>520913761 >>520914551
what's wrong with a ramp
Anonymous (ID: 0THV4k+8) Brazil No.520906366 [Report] >>520906432 >>520906459 >>520908645 >>520908657 >>520909903 >>520909934
why are chinks wasting money on varriers when hypersonic missiles are a thing what the heck i thought they were smart
Anonymous (ID: 4GQKOi7n) United States No.520906432 [Report] >>520907444 >>520912435
>>520906364
>>520906366
Lmao shut up you irrelevant aircraft carrier-less countries
Anonymous (ID: nMeTbQuV) United Kingdom No.520906459 [Report]
>>520906366
I am sending them tons of money for cool new PCs and 2d png waifus
Anonymous (ID: 5uoZ89IQ) United States No.520906477 [Report] >>520908689 >>520911452 >>520915715
>>520906099 (OP)
Why is a bout leaking water?
You can't make it make sense.
Anonymous (ID: aaUpLII2) Canada No.520906538 [Report] >>520906606 >>520911284
>>520906099 (OP)
Based chinamen protecting their people from ZOG
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520906559 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
Barely. After france, lol.
The layout of that deck is dog shit.
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520906606 [Report] >>520906821
>>520906538
Lol, thanks for that muhammed.
Anonymous (ID: nVIxIXrO) United States No.520906699 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
Something about the background reminds me of Cities: Skylines kek. Not a bad thing, just looks odd.
Anonymous (ID: aaUpLII2) Canada No.520906821 [Report] >>520906932
>>520906606
Eat shit, anti-White well poisoning kike
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520906932 [Report] >>520907684
>>520906821
Lol, so if i dont care for muslims because of their violent hate filled nature i have to be a jew?
Thanks for proving my point you goat raping barbarian.
Anonymous (ID: D5Etnt7R) Australia No.520906940 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
Took them long enough. We sold them our last aircraft carrier 40 years ago for "scrap" with the catapults intact (very dodgy circumstances)
Anonymous (ID: WEBlpp65) United States No.520906977 [Report]
Trump polled sailors and we're sticking with steam power and hydraulics. Chinks will fall for meme magnets and lose to superior steam power
Anonymous (ID: wjj6OCTn) United States No.520907038 [Report] >>520907143 >>520911394 >>520915715
>>520906364
>what's wrong with a ramp
stress on aircraft. landing gear failures are a common way to destroy an aircraft over a small failure.
Anonymous (ID: PW6Fg4cA) United States No.520907078 [Report] >>520907265
>>520906364
>whats wrong with sucking dick
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520907143 [Report] >>520907617 >>520908534
>>520907038
Naval aircraft already have heavily reinforced frames and landing gear to account for the harsh realities of naval aviation.
Anonymous (ID: nVIxIXrO) United States No.520907265 [Report]
>>520907078
Anonymous (ID: KkXRNvDA) Australia No.520907444 [Report] >>520907509
>>520906432
>carrier-less
you wot m8
Anonymous (ID: KkXRNvDA) Australia No.520907509 [Report] >>520907560 >>520907804 >>520909646
>>520907444
better image
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520907560 [Report]
>>520907509
Aww, how cute.
Look at the little baby carrier wannabe.
Anonymous (ID: n1a65aSu) United States No.520907617 [Report]
>>520907143
Yeah, you don't need to exacerbate it with a fucking ramp.
Same shit with auto start/stop engines. Yeah you CAN do it, it makes no fucking sense to
Anonymous (ID: aaUpLII2) Canada No.520907684 [Report] >>520907929
>>520906932
You're calling me a Muslim because I don't like ZOG.
You brought up Muslims. Nobody else did.
You are jew
Anonymous (ID: PW6Fg4cA) United States No.520907804 [Report]
>>520907509
>a rmap
OH NAUR NAUR NAUR NAURRRRRR XDDD KEEEKKKKK
Anonymous (ID: NFdEIMPn) Australia No.520907891 [Report] >>520907968 >>520908376 >>520908931 >>520909847
>>520906099 (OP)
hey, that's just great. now about that nuclear submarine...
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520907929 [Report] >>520908142
>>520907684
>you have to be a jew i just know it.
You have brown hands and black hair dont you?
Anonymous (ID: +8WWb3IL) United States No.520907968 [Report]
>>520907891
Lolz that's like the jeets leaving the door open on their sub.
Anonymous (ID: uG04YP4T) Poland No.520908060 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
China took the lead in the catapult club you mean. They are not using, wait for it, STEAM to launch their planes kek.
Anonymous (ID: aaUpLII2) Canada No.520908142 [Report]
>>520907929
You're the one supporting an anti-White system and immediately reacted to anti Jewish rhetoric, saar.
Anonymous (ID: bIkwL4Fy) Canada No.520908160 [Report] >>520908301
>>520906099 (OP)
Navies have been a floating joke since WW2 and with modern missiles the only thing they can do is bully shitty countries that can't fight back. If they're preparing for WW3 what's the point of a giant sitting duck that will get blown up instantly
Anonymous (ID: 0SDfEZ1O) Sweden No.520908257 [Report] >>520909065
>>520906099 (OP)
>Gets rekt by 100 fpv drones.
Anonymous (ID: RrGmoxd8) United States No.520908282 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
can we see it in action? not in CGI..
Anonymous (ID: 5+VeAuzW) United States No.520908301 [Report]
>>520908160
lower your tone jeet
herbs (ID: wVmA9CvL) Czech Republic No.520908324 [Report] >>520908643 >>520909122
>>520906099 (OP)
Military parades and showcases are so fucking pathetic lmao imagine being one of those cattleretards participating. You are jumping so some nigger can wack off of the power he has over you. Dumb slaves lol
Anonymous (ID: lZszHAtM) United States No.520908342 [Report]
>>520906364
humiliation ritual
Anonymous (ID: 4GQKOi7n) United States No.520908376 [Report]
>>520907891
They have more than you lmaooo
Anonymous (ID: YAVTNCr8) India No.520908486 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
LOL only mutts would use something primitive or crude like catapult to start and stop airplanes from a ship. LOL

https://youtu.be/PdZw3zqEEhk
Anonymous (ID: wjj6OCTn) United States No.520908534 [Report]
>>520907143
>have heavily reinforced frames and landing gear
landing gear failure is all over aviation history regardless of design. that's my take idk anything more.
Anonymous (ID: VRDYzFby) United States No.520908643 [Report]
>>520908324
Baste.
Anonymous (ID: j9ndrVsJ) United States No.520908645 [Report]
>>520906366
Exactly. Because the hypersonic missile threat is a meme.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520908657 [Report]
>>520906366
Presumably, for use against countries that don't have hypersonic missiles
Anonymous (ID: j9ndrVsJ) United States No.520908689 [Report] >>520909430
>>520906477
Don’t be a retard
Anonymous (ID: TD9oPa5u) United Kingdom No.520908887 [Report] >>520909118
Virgin flat carriers vs Chad bulge carrier. ( Allows the planes to take off with more weight (weapons or fuel).
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520908931 [Report]
>>520907891
I don't see any submarine

Jokes aside, that looks like it might just as well just have been a dredging operation to clear the silt that builds up over time. That sinking nuclear submarine story never made sense, because that yard has no history of building nuclear submarines, China has a ban on nuclear reactors upstream of major population centers, and it wouldn't make sense to build a submarine that can never return to the shipyard that built it once it's been fueled.
Anonymous (ID: ypOSgyVC) Poland No.520908981 [Report]
>>520906364
nothing, it's cheaper and simpler
Anonymous (ID: 3kbdTWgk) No.520909000 [Report]
>>520906364
China can't afford ramps
Anonymous (ID: nPv9S9MR) Canada No.520909029 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
A FUCKING RA....
wait no ramp? oh shit this is a serious aircraft carrier. bongs, take notes
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520909065 [Report]
>>520908257
Small drones can only reach the carrier if the carrier ventures close to a drone launching point, but it doesn't need to, because Chinese carrier aircraft have a 1000km+ combat radius
Anonymous (ID: R2yLeHdW) United States No.520909074 [Report] >>520909173 >>520909278
>>520906099 (OP)
Why does everything China develops look like something someone already made?
Anonymous (ID: nPv9S9MR) Canada No.520909118 [Report]
>>520908887
no, the catapult allows planes to takeoff with more weapons and fuel. you have to burn a lot of fuel and leave weapons behind just to get up that ramp.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520909122 [Report] >>520909823
>>520908324
Survival requires collective defense. Collective defense requires organization. Organization requires hierarchy.
Anonymous (ID: ypOSgyVC) Poland No.520909173 [Report]
>>520909074
>mutt
>copes
many such cases
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520909278 [Report] >>520911396
>>520909074
They've mostly been trying to catch up. Expect more originality as they start pulling ahead.
Anonymous (ID: 5uoZ89IQ) United States No.520909430 [Report]
>>520908689
As a proud boat owner mine doesn't pee water all over.
Anonymous (ID: 6c4b0cIo) Austria No.520909515 [Report] >>520910367
>>520906099 (OP)
why is their ship leaking ?
Anonymous (ID: 3kbdTWgk) No.520909646 [Report]
>>520907509
>Lol is written on the ship
herbs (ID: wVmA9CvL) Czech Republic No.520909823 [Report] >>520910089
>>520909122
Good go work for NK television
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520909847 [Report]
>>520907891
Also, it seems the Yangtze river is quite shallow around Wuhan. Even a relatively small non-nuclear 039A submarine is like 8.4m in diameter, and then on top of that is the sail. With a draft of over 6m, it can just barely navigate the river. It seems a bit unlikely that a shoreside location would have the 14m+ depth needed to swallow a whole submarine without any surface trace
Anonymous (ID: B83Adasc) United States No.520909903 [Report] >>520910571 >>520910746
>>520906366
Because hypersonic missiles are a meme solution. Compare the range of a hypersonic missile to the combat range of an F-35 plus an air to surface missile. That's also ignoring that tracking and hitting something moving from a distance of 1000+ km is a challenge with satellites and impossible once you start losing satellites.
Anonymous (ID: /Samb910) United States No.520909934 [Report]
>>520906366
they aren't interested in invading the US.
plenty of easier targets.

this is mostly to shit on africa if they feel like nationalizing any of the infrastructure they built
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520910089 [Report] >>520910636
>>520909823
There are degrees to how hierarchical a society can be. NK is quite extreme in terms of how of top-down it is. Although, they've been facing an extremely high threat level, so I guess it makes sense
Anonymous (ID: aaUpLII2) Canada No.520910367 [Report]
>>520909515
Actually serious answer:
Ballast tanks for compensating for the ebb and flow of tides and balance concerns. All carriers have that
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520910571 [Report] >>520910683 >>520910746
>>520909903
The ranges I get are

Zircon: 1,000km
DF-21D: 1,500km
DF-17: 1,600km
DF-100: 2,000km
DF-26D: >5,000km
DF-27: >5,000km
although I'm not sure if all of these are capable of hitting moving targets

According to the US Space Force, China has 510+ reconnaissance satellites, a number that is rapidly increasing, and it seems like it will be quite a challenge to shoot them all down. China is also said to have been littering the western Pacific with hydrophones.
herbs (ID: wVmA9CvL) Czech Republic No.520910636 [Report] >>520910872
>>520910089
Yeah it makes so much sense. It's the good hierarchy keeping them running and not the 3 generational punishment. Lmao go back to plebbit you dumb commie child. No need to respond I'm not gonna be here to read it.
Anonymous (ID: S0cKmUeK) United States No.520910638 [Report] >>520911106
How many aircraft carriers will China have? They already have 9 total Helicopter carriers planned (type 75 and 76). I assume the two ramp carriers will be phased out eventually. Their next carrier is under construction. Minimum they'll settle on 3 supercarriers, but most likely 6 so they always have two on patrol. Maybe 3 conventional and 3 nuclear. So they have one close to home and the other past the island chains.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520910683 [Report]
>>520910571
A similar situation is true the other way around, although I don't think the US has hypersonic anti-ship missiles yet
Anonymous (ID: S0cKmUeK) United States No.520910746 [Report] >>520911008 >>520912472
>>520910571
>>520909903
Most ships are just sitting in port and will be obliterated in the first hour of an actual war.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520910872 [Report]
>>520910636
It seems to me that harsh punishments are an obvious tool with which to enforce a strict hierarchy, especially when the enemy has near-infinite money with which to bribe people
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520911008 [Report]
>>520910746
That assumes the war comes as a surprise. If war is expected, then every ship that can move should move. Even if it can't move under its own power, it may still be towed. The only ships that are truly stuck are those that are in drydock and not in a condition to be floated.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520911106 [Report] >>520911645
>>520910638
Why would the ramp carriers be phased out anytime soon? They are relatively new, and their acquisition costs are already paid for
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520911284 [Report]
>>520906538
You don't need carriers for national self-defense. Carriers are for gunboat diplomacy. Of course, a more expansive definition of national self-defense might include the defense of maritime routes, far-flung allies and overseas commercial assets.
Anonymous (ID: Syyyew/9) No.520911394 [Report]
>>520907038
Stress on your ass.

>>520906364
More difficult to build the ship.
Also a.bit.more difficult to change the top plates on it with new ones.
The deck top air strip suffice must be replaced after some time.
Anonymous (ID: nPv9S9MR) Canada No.520911396 [Report] >>520911535 >>520912561
>>520909278
they're not going to pull ahead until they ditch the thousands of fucking pictograms they have to memorize and get a real written language
Anonymous (ID: Syyyew/9) No.520911452 [Report]
>>520906477
They are flushing the toilet tanks
Anonymous (ID: dh5gvDjj) United States No.520911478 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
I like the CCP Ching Chong. Looks cool.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520911535 [Report]
>>520911396
There's apparently 1.4 billion Chinese who manage to learn it and learn it well enough at a quite early age
Anonymous (ID: Ow7XCLec) United States No.520911580 [Report] >>520912856
>>520906099 (OP)
I give it 6 months tops.
Anonymous (ID: S0cKmUeK) United States No.520911645 [Report] >>520912232
>>520911106
China classified both of their ramp carriers as training carriers. Their main function is to build carrier culture (although they are capable ships). It takes many years to build carriers (although China does it quicker than others). The Leoning is already 15 years old. By the time they are building their 4th and 5th supercarrier, both ramp carriers will be pushing 30 years old.

Also remember the Laoning's main hull was built in the Soviet Union. So the ship isn't that new. I can see them selling the Shandong to one of their buddies. Like Thailand, Pakistan, or even Russia.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520912232 [Report]
>>520911645
>China classified both of their ramp carriers as training carriers
I've never heard of this as being made an official designation. The main priority right now is of course to train crew and pilots, so they are mainly being used for this purpose, but the carriers are still fully combat capable weapon systems

>Leoning is already 15 years old. By the time they are building their 4th and 5th supercarrier, both ramp carriers will be pushing 30 years old.
Liaoning is 12 years since commissioning, Shandong is 6 years. A modern warship usually has a lifespan of about 40 years. A US carrier has a lifespan of 50 years.

How long it takes China to start construction on its 4th and 5th supercarrier depends. It is rumored that they will now have the Jiangnan and Dalian yards both build carriers simultaneously, and if so, it's likely that the modules of the 2nd and 3rd catapult carriers are already under construction, and the 4th and 5th should start construction around 2030. If you don't count the Fujian class as "supercarrier", then the 4th and 5th would start construction around 2035. By that time, Liaoning will be 22 years old and Shandong will be 16 years old, not even old enough for a mid-life refit.

>Also remember the Laoning's main hull was built in the Soviet Union.
So where the Chinese Sovremenny destroyers, and the Chinese still keep them around. They gave them an equipment refit not long ago, indicating they plan to keep them around a lot longer.
Anonymous (ID: INClSfJf) United States No.520912386 [Report]
>>520906364
Along with stress on the aircraft, it limits the capacity for those planes to carry bombs and other ordinance. In all honesty, ramps are "light carrier" status. They aren't blue water carriers.

China's new carrier is still fundamentally a training ship, but with future deep water ops in mind. By the time China has a trained Navy, they'll likely be obsolete. I'd predict a mostly submarine navy standard by the year 2050. They would likely only surface to launch and recover drones. Actual manned aircraft are already being designed to function with drone wingmen. I expect that they'll keep on evolving into a flying control tower that flies far behind the combatants.
Anonymous (ID: g4Vt8zl7) United States No.520912425 [Report]
>>520906364
>cope slope
sage (ID: w8RZdFYB) Poland No.520912435 [Report] >>520914657
>>520906432
It takes 1 supersonic messile to sink american supercarier with catapults
it takes 2 supersonic messiles to sink 2 chinese small carriers that cost less than half of the super carrier and have half the capacity
Anonymous (ID: B83Adasc) United States No.520912472 [Report]
>>520910746
>China will 360 noscope the USN across the globe before any forces can react
sage (ID: w8RZdFYB) Poland No.520912561 [Report]
>>520911396
yes chinese are smarter than americans on avarage
because diversity is your """strenght"""
Anonymous (ID: 40i1m+Z2) United States No.520912570 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
waste of money, dead end technologically. obsolete shit. it will get missile struck and droned to the bottom of the pacific the second it leaves port.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520912856 [Report] >>520912885 >>520913115
>>520911580
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520912885 [Report] >>520912925
>>520912856
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520912925 [Report]
>>520912885
Anonymous (ID: 40i1m+Z2) United States No.520913115 [Report] >>520913418
>>520912856
some faggot on twitter said it, it must be true. we all know the chink government is desperate to save face.
Anonymous (ID: +w1f+zHt) No.520913418 [Report]
>>520913115
You'd imagine someone would've seen the wreckage by now

For reference, picrel is what an actual amphibious warfare ship burning down looks like. This is not a mere damage control drill.
Anonymous (ID: /HHPqFSU) United States No.520913761 [Report]
>>520906364
>A fucking ramp
1950's called, they want their technology back
Anonymous (ID: /4BZwki0) United Kingdom No.520913883 [Report] >>520914839
With the amount of stuff I buy from China I basically paid for this ship and can take credit.
Anonymous (ID: +rCda/og) Germany No.520914275 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
Smooth ass breaking.

EMALS truly are a miracle of the universe.
Anonymous (ID: VWNqgk7R) United States No.520914441 [Report]
>>520906099 (OP)
America is cooked and it deserves it. GenZ here are fucking fried. China should win cause fuck man, the future is bleak in this country lol. Good thing the wealthy can just relocate.
Anonymous (ID: JrHL9U2O) United States No.520914551 [Report]
>>520906364
I see they copied the 8 degree short landing strip. Do these guys ever innovate anything on their own that the west adopts?
Anonymous (ID: 4GQKOi7n) United States No.520914657 [Report]
>>520912435
Except the West doesn't have any carrier killing missiles lmfao
Anonymous (ID: +rCda/og) Germany No.520914839 [Report]
>>520913883
Chinese smokers did.

It's an open secret that China's tobacco taxes are directly funding the military.
Anonymous (ID: XoRGQ8KL) United States No.520915715 [Report]
>>520906477
I am sorry your mind cannot comprehend cooling systems>>520907038
Anonymous (ID: +7IjTUXZ) No.520916330 [Report]
Battleships and aircraft carriers are obsolete, the future of naval warfare will be very small vessels armed with drones.