Thread 520915727

Do you notice something strange about this architecture?

>>520915727 (OP)
Probably the squareness of the columns near the left middle side of the photo. Pretty sure that didn’t exist. t. I took one class on the ancient world last semester. We never studied square columns like that ever. also t. retard

>>520915727 (OP)
Looks more Babylonian than Egyptian? Columns look Greek? No arches in the doors which you'd expect from a pre-Roman building anyway? I give up.

>>520915727 (OP)
its a mix.

>>520916062
That’s what I thought but the structure seems out of place

>>520915727 (OP)
yes, its a drawing from the 18/19th century from a building 3000 years ago.

>>520915727 (OP)
imperial eagle
Columns
palm trees meaning warmer than the Mediterranean, probably North Africa

>>520915727 (OP)
kinda gives vibes of those weird fire worshipping pre islamic zoro something buildings

>>520915727 (OP)
Looks American.

This is a reconstruction of the Apadana (Audience Hall) at the Palace of Darius in Susa, an ancient city in Iran
The palace complex was built during the reign of Darius I of the Achaemenid Empire.
The Apadana was a grand audience hall with 72 towering columns.
The capitals of the columns were intricately carved with depictions of bulls and lions.
The palace was used as a ceremonial space to receive dignitaries and showcase the empire's wealth and power.

This image is a drawing of the
restored Apadana (Audience Hall) of the Palace of Darius in Susa
, an ancient Achaemenid capital located in modern-day Iran. The drawing was created by the artist Édouard Boudier based on the restoration work by French archaeologist Marcel Dieulafoy in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
Key Information

Structure: The Apadana was a large hypostyle hall (meaning its roof was supported by columns) that served as a major ceremonial building for the Achaemenid kings, particularly for receiving guests and tribute.
Architecture: The central hall originally featured thirty-six columns that stood 20 meters (about 65 feet) tall, topped with distinctive twin-headed bull capitals. The building was constructed on a large artificial platform of mudbrick, a construction method typical of the Mesopotamian plains tradition.
Historical Context: Construction began under Darius I between 521 and 515 BCE and was completed by subsequent kings. The palace was later destroyed by a fire during the reign of Artaxerxes I.
Current Location of Artifacts: Most of the significant relics and architectural elements discovered during excavations were moved to the Louvre Museum in Paris, France. Very little of the original structure remains in situ today.

>>520916062
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>>520916203
Yeah, spot on. You passed the intelligence test.

>>520916203
>HMMM SWEATY... CULTURES NEVER MIX LIKE EVER EVER!!

The image depicts the
restored Apadana (Audience Hall) of the Palace of Darius in Susa
, which served as the Achaemenid Empire's winter capital. The drawing is an interpretation by artist Édouard Boudier based on the late 19th-century excavations of French archaeologist Marcel Dieulafoy.
Detailed Architectural and Historical Analysis
Architecture & Layout
The Susa Apadana was a monumental hypostyle (columned) hall, built on a vast, artificial platform of mudbricks to elevate it above the surrounding marshy ground, a common practice in the Mesopotamian plains. The structure measured 109 meters on each side and included a central hall of 58 meters per side, flanked by three porticoes (on the north, east, and west).

Columns: The central hall featured thirty-six columns that stood approximately 20 meters (65 feet) high. The capitals were composite, famously designed with twin-headed bulls, lions, or eagles, symbolizing royal power. The shafts in the central hall were stone, while columns in other areas might have been painted wood.
Walls & Decoration: Unlike the stone palaces at Persepolis, the walls at Susa were primarily made of massive mudbricks, some over 5 meters wide. The inner walls were covered with elaborate polychrome glazed bricks depicting the "Immortals" (the royal guard), winged lions, and lotus flowers, many of which are now housed in the Louvre Museum.
Function: The hall was the epicenter of royal power, used for grand receptions, ceremonies, and as the venue for receiving tribute from the diverse subject nations of the empire.

Construction & Destruction Timeline

Darius I (c. 521–515 BCE): Construction began under Darius the Great on the site of earlier Elamite monuments.
Artaxerxes I (465–424 BCE): The palace suffered a significant fire that destroyed important parts of the structure.
Artaxerxes II (404–358 BCE): The palace was partially restored by Artaxerxes II, who left inscriptions documenting his reconstruction efforts.
Alexander the Great (330 BCE): The palace was eventually captured, plundered, and completely destroyed during Alexander's invasion of the Persian Empire.

Archaeological Legacy
The Susa site was extensively excavated by French archaeologists, particularly the mission led by Marcel-Auguste Dieulafoy and his wife Jane in the 1880s. They were responsible for identifying many of the key structures and shipping numerous artifacts, including column capitals and the famous "Frieze of Archers," back to France, where they formed the core of the Achaemenid collection at the Louvre

>>520916007
No I think those make sense they would be linteled at the top instead of arched and are really just a vertical elongation of the traditional design...

>>520916776
Sooo what was your point. State it clearly if you aren't a grifting faggot.

>>520917454
History is a lie, the architecture tells a different story. Herodotus and the lot were lying cunts.

>>520916776
>Yeah, spot on.
Wrong, actually. Columns in OP don't look Greek or Egyptian.

>>520917871
>>520916776
Genuinely confused to your point. Are you implying Greek columns weren't Greek because of the OP? Because those don't look like Greek columns unless you are blind. And elaborate decorative columns obviously predate Greek works and civ lol.

>>520917630
Kek ohhh your nigger tier retarded. Sorry I thought you were trying to say something

I was going to shit on the OP but it looks like this thread died already. Remember kids, do your homework before shaming yourself on 4chins.

>>520918185
Its a composite of different styles.

>>520918210
Seems youve missed the point retard.

>>520918738
I didn't. Your argument is progression. Yes you are nigger tier retarded. Feel free to explain why you aren't.

>>520918648
So?

>>520918648
Which styles is it a composite of, as per your view? Because it doesn't look like elements from Greek or Egyptian columns. Just state your premise you tard, no one can understand the gibberish you're writing here.

>>520919008
No he is literally retarded. He noticed vaguely similar shaped ornamentation and made a retard tier assumption discounting the fact that basically every single aspect of the column is different other than the rounded ornaments. It's fucking square

>>520918947
>>520918970
You failed the quiz, you should read more instead of playing with lego and pokemon cards.

>>520919690
Naw being vague doesn't make you smart or correct. You are fucking stupid. It is not a composite. Explain the progression in this image >>520917630
And then tell me what was combined to create this>>520918210
I'm waiting

>>520919008
Babylonian, Egyptian and Greco-Roman

>>520917195
It's a mix of designs from around the Persian empire. It's almost like the heraldry of the Red Ensign.

>>520919818
Im being vague to gauge general levels of pattern recognition

>>520919844
Ok, so which exact components and parts? Those don't really look like Egyptian or Greco-Roman columns to me? Distinct decorative bulls, flower instead of spiral, square design. None of it looks similar aside from the rounded "scrolls"!?

>>520918992
Schizos don't seem to be aware of the the few pyramids built before the great pyramid where you can clearly see the progress in design. Zero grifter videos will bring those up.

>>520915727 (OP)
It looks like a car battery

>>520920076
So you can't answer any questions got it. Were done here. Yes they look exactly like persepolis. Show more pictures that prove you are retarded.

>>520915727 (OP)
It's a drawn reconstruction of picrel. We have no idea what it actually looked like.
>>520919690
I really hope you're not Tartaria'ing. That's a nasty red herring spread by propagandists like David Icke.

>>520920176
I get that theyre big but i never understood the "humans could never have built that" when we have supercities today. Again i get it was thousands of years ago but its retarded take

>>520915727 (OP)
Yes goofy people moved in and declare 'we did it'
https://youtu.be/wIs7S40lrR0
Temple generates free Energy

>>520920473
There's a fundamental misunderstanding of the capabilities of mass labour, time, and individual mastery of a craft. Also there's a lot of brown people on the internet now.

>>520920471
No his argument is about the ornamentation at the tops of the columns which we know exactly what they looked like because we have them. He then tried to argue it was about progression by using another cultures architecture... But then he posted this which clearly shows the Persian progression.>>520920076
So he's literally just actually retarded or a bored faggot trying to waste your time now that he realizes his assumption was stupid and false. I would guess he found out about Archimedean architecture right now when he Google the picture I posted. Point being he is either retarded or just trolling now

>>520920532
True alot of smoothbrains who cant stretch their thinking that far, if it was an isolated case then itd be something but moving big ass rocks was a thing that many ancient civs did, Ireland has Newgrange, England has Stonehenge, Peru has its mountain villages ect.

>>520920862
I will say in Mesoamerica there's something very strange going on with those fitted stones that still have the bosses for ropes on them for some reason. Like they were made by someone else and put together like Ikea furniture and they couldn't smooth the bosses off.

This Cuban underwater formation is 100% not natural as well. Not saying there's *never* anything weird going on, just that mostly these megalithic works were entirely possible without magic technology.

>>520915727 (OP)
I get an odd feeling of deja vu, like I was around this shit in a past existence. I get that a lot, especially whenever I travel. Not always, but some places, there's an innate sense of familiarity, even comfort.

>>520921183
Well from what i had read protohumans were strong as fuck, which i dont think gets accounted for, you might be using a 100 men but they might have closer to ape streght than human, or at least thats one of my laypersons ideas

It's scary how we basically know fuck all of what happened before the 1600s.

We don't even know what fucking year it is.

>>520921616
Nah they were beaten and broken grain eaters for the most part. The bones found around the unfinished obelisk quarry (where we find smashing stones they used to quarry it), the bodies all have extreme damage from the labour. Destroyed joints, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfinished_obelisk

>>520921651
While true, there's a level of humor in us raw-dogging it on a whim and riff throughout the centuries, and into the future.

>>520921651
>It's scary how we basically know fuck all of what happened before the 1600s.
Everything in your image regarding architecture is pretty well documented. Why do you choose ignorance over simple research? Your inability and unwillingness to learn =/= conspiracy.

>>520920133
Other anons picked it up immediately. You clearly know nothing about this subject.

>>520915727 (OP)
Whites (not christians) made it

>>520921785
Do you believe there to be evidence of rational cutting in the Egyptian world?

>>520921936
Cool, so why don't you show off your knowledge and explain it to the plebians then? Which exact parts of those columns resemble Greco-Roman or Egyptian elements? So far you have dodged this question over 4x times while being clowned on by multiple people.

>>520921936
No. He's correct. The other anons literally just said something looked weird which you agreed with and refused to elaborate. You are fucking dumb unless you can explain yourself. Which you won't because it would prove said fact. You have said nothing so nothing you assert should be believed

>>520922100
If you're referring to quarrying...yes? There's quarries all over Egypt. They picked the best stone for the job. They also used ropes and embedded posts to get quarried stone around corners and to use leverage.

>>520915727 (OP)
like in a bollywood movie

>>520915727 (OP)
reminds me of epstein island

>>520920236
You started seething immediately because you couldnt see the pattern
>>520920471
Historical revision is a broad and nuanced subject. Viewing Tartaria in isolation is a red herring. All the "mud flood" buildings are Greco-Roman.

>>520922301
I was just wondering. I've noticed a lot of zahi's dumb bullshit around here since he was on Rogan.

>>520922505
Zahi is a thief and a fraud.

>>520922448
Maybe I'm the retard then. I'll happily admit it if you can prove me wrong... One of us is fucking retarded. Prove it's me smart boy.

>>520921785
Oh ok so it was more of a just throw labour at it till its done, fair i can also see that working

>>520922559
Yes his filling in the wear mark on the great step blew my fucking mind. What an absolute hack.

>>520922663
Yep he's a corrupt bureaucrat larping as Auguste Mariette.

>>520915727 (OP)
>Do you notice something strange about this architecture?

It's a cartoon

>>520922104
>>520922597
I already explained it, its Babylonian, Egyptian, and Greco-Roman. If you cant tell which part is which you need to increase your general knowledge.

>>520923231
Kek no you didn't. You haven't actually stated anything other than that other people are wrong. I said prove it. You have proven nothing. Guess I wasn't the fucking retard after all. Everyone can read our interaction. You look pathetic. Confident correct people don't jewishly worm around refusing to give concrete assertions. That is the makeup of a liar.

>>520923231
>uh... uhh... you guys just don't get it... explain? nope! increase your general knowledge
What kind of cope is this? So you refuse to elaborate or state your view clearly? No one understands what you are talking about. They share no similarity aside from being columns. You can see clearly distinct elements. Given that you "know" it, you should be able to clearly explain your rational view on this.

But notice you have dodged it for the FIFTH time.

This is your chance faggot... You posted the picture asserting something was strange and that that fact was interesting. Clearly explain to everyone what is interesting and why or be forever proven to be the dumb nigger we all assume you are... Waiting. Any other response is you admitting you and your assumptions are retarded.

>>520916545
Actually the solar bird and oxen but nice try.

>>520916545
Are you guys idiots it's Persepolis.

>>520921183
The Cuban things were a couple sonar blips and this image is just Mexico but shoop'd

>>520924210
It's just a depth extrapolation from the sidescan sonar data. Basically zero artistic license.

>>520924277
Lol, no it's not.

Looks babylonian at it's core.

>>520924329
Source that isn't reddit?

>>520924342
NOW HES DOUBLE POSTING!!!! FUCKING KEK! YOU ARE PATHETIC. POST NON BRITISH ACTUAL FLAG IF IM WRONG! TOO FUNNY

>>520924540
You provided the fucking image and made a claim about it what's your fucking source dipshit?

>>520924540
Kek anon I think he's correct I can find zero data on the method of visualization used... And all of the language around the sonar data makes it appear those who have seen it don't believe it. If that was what the data showed I find it hard to believe they would not have shown more interest

>>520924990
I said it was an extrapolation from the sidescan sonar data, you said it wasn't. Where did you find it wasn't?

>>520925264
I've found the 2d sonar image but sidescan also includes depth data. This looks exactly like if the depth was added and made it 3d. The weird image artifacts and the fact it's old make it look exactly like an extrapolated 3d image.

>>520925723
So post the link to the 2d sonar...

>>520925820
https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-americas/sunken-city-cuba-0021231

>>520925627
Where did you find it was? Is there literally any source other than you insisting.

>>520925928
That's gonna be a no for me dawg... You gave him shit for a reddit reference he didn't make and this is your image from ancient origins... Bruh

>>520922368
I hate india so much its unreal

>>520925928
>>520925820
So it's two blips on sonar which could just as easily be a rock shelf, which some jackass modeled as a Mexican city in photoshop.

>>520926053
That's the actual sonar image. Couldn't find another one, the source is shit but that image isn't.

Those 2d images have depth data, it looks exactly like that image was turned 3d. Making it look like ass like that 20 years ago would have actually been difficult. It's not complicated.

>>520926141
That's a partial image from what I'm guessing is the full sonar plot. Would be nice to have the original data file.

>>520926141
I'll admit it's interesting but saying that image took zero artistic license is clearly not true

>>520926056
What's amazing is how they start with a touch of Aryan swagger, but then make it weirdly homosexually communal, then it goes full retarded and uncool.
It's literally their mixed genes clashing with each other.
The Juggernaut thing has to be in their DNA, the kind of melting away of heroic ego into a faggy cesspool submissive ego-death.

>>520926181
Your source says none of that. So no

>>520926259
On the geometric data, not the texturing.

>>520926368
Which you didn't say... And again no. It doesn't say that either. Find something that says any of this or it's all your headcannon

>>520926306
They truly are the filth of this earth. Nurgle made into a lovecraftian warped human form.

>>520926502
Sidescan sonar has depth data, there's noise in there that corresponds to echoes and other shit that would have been extremely time consuming (and require a very high degree of relevant knowledge) to fake believably over 20 years ago in a graphics design program. It's deduction, it doesn't look like it was *just* some artists rendering but its derived from actual sonar data.

>>520919690
What would you recommend to read?

>>520926763
Anon you came into a thread about the importance of evidence... Made a bunch of wild claims... And then used a conspiracy theory website that substantiates none of them to prove it. Ya. Not buying it.

>>520927009
Eh whatever, if you think some third rate graphics designer put that together in the early 2000s that's up to you. I'm not *conclusive* on it either, but the data points line up.

>>520916062
That's Persian circa 500bc.

>>520917871
/pol/ is too braindead to discuss complex topics like this OP.
feel free to post it on /x/ when this dies, it's an interesting detail that I haven't seen before.

>>520927107
I couldn't care less about bumps on the bottom of the sea. The only thing I think is you have not provided evidence that would give me the level of confidence in your statement you have.

>>520915727 (OP)
Tricky to see at first, but this architecture directly influenced Americas most popular restaurant design.

>>520927642
I know a lot about graphic design, enough to push me into preponderance of evidence territory that the source of that image geometry in that era is raw data. There's no way for me to get you there without you having that background knowledge or someone with credentials repeating what I said.

>>520927544
Notice, brainlets like this never actually go into depth about their amazing conspiratorial "finds". Never, is there an explanation of what they "discovered" or what "unique knowledge" they bring to the table. Yes, everyone with a brain knows there is visible similarity between the depiction of the Colossus of Rhodes and the Statue of Liberty. What now? Many people from the Enlightenment era, freemasons, and western upper classes were fans of ancient Greco-Roman culture, wisdom, history, and knowledge. This is not a hidden secret, it's quite literally the basis around which -Western Civilization- is built on.

Why do you bitches pretend you are in some special esoteric knowledge.

>>520927909
It's curious the Tartaria posting has slid off a bit. They shut the fuck up about missing time when you mention the complete history of the Byzantine Empire as well.

>>520927864
Kek you fucked up now... I'm literally graphic designer... Explain away

>>520927909
>Yes everyone knows
Just say you don't care and be honest with everyone, including yourself

>>520928176
The fact a graphic designer isn't going to know enough about sonar data to correctly model echoes and noise manually with early 2000s tools.

>>520927965
Ah yes, Tartaria - the mysterious world empire centered around a lifeless tundra region of Russian where nothing interesting exists or remains (lol). They chose to ignore all the actual Western, Mediterranean, and European architecture and design in favor of wow-its-fucking-nothing.
It's like a total inversion of reality, quite impressive for an internet psyops.

>>520928176
>graphic designer
>using photoshop
nah. illustrator and indesign.
you're clearly an amateur who's never worked in the biz.

>>520928241
Oh nm you are retarded. Prove that data is an extrusion of the sidescan elevation data and not just an artists rendering.

>>520927864
>>520928176
Lmao like leafs are capable of designing anything.

>>520928485
I see you're autistic and a piece of human shit, good day.

>>520928237
Don't care about what!? Why are you fucks always so ambiguous and vague? And again, it's not a secret that Enlightenment-era France/USA had significant historical drive for Greco-Roman roots. Why are you pretending like this is some new knowledge you just uncovered?

>>520928439
What file type is being opened... The extension is visible in bridge you fucking retard

>>520928549
Kek right so you can't. You are literally as bad as op. Just making shit up with zero evidence to back it up.

>>520915727 (OP)
the level of ornamentation of that corner is strangely high