Thread 520926055

Sorry but if you want to fly for the holidays, you're gonna need to pay for free healthcare for illegals.

I imagine trains and Greyhound buses are going to be very popular this holiday season.

>>520926055 (OP)
Is this a DOGE strategy at play? Get government officials to quit and then replace them with AI?

>>520926055 (OP)
the first to lose their pay during a shutdown should be congress

>>520926055 (OP)
You want foreign ATC? Cause they are coming.

>>520926055 (OP)
Poors shouldn't be allowed to fly anyway.
No private plane owner has been affected at all.

>airplanes are private industry
>air traffic control is entirely government
Why can't the industry that owns the planes also control their own air traffic? The military shouldn't be flying anything right now

Oh look, another reddit screencap post

>>520926055 (OP)
Shitty stressful job with no pay

>>520926273
It was really funny watching Bernie squirm when he was pressed on this. He's such a huckster jew it's hilarious.

>>520926055 (OP)
Why don't states just pay for ATC until the fed gov reopens? What stops TX and FL and a bunch of red states from just funding their own ATCs?
>feds/dems will sue
It will look horrible and make them look like they are responsible, which they are.

>>520926055 (OP)
This is intentional btw
Russel Vought wants an agrarian feudal theocracy

>>520926055 (OP)
>operating machines from the 80s
Their jobs will be automated with 2025 tech with AI and everything it was a theme of the 2024 presidential campaign, you retards, when criticizing Biden and infrastructure.
To reduce these jobs, it was planned.

why can't elon musk use some of that 1 trillion dollars to pay everyones wages for the pr?

>>520926419
>What stops TX and FL and a bunch of red states from just funding their own ATCs?
Mostly the legal system and the fact that paychecks are only a small part of it
The States would have to pay benefits, retirement funds, pay unemployment insurance, Social Security, if one gets injured the State would have to do Workman's Comp, etc.

It's far more complicated than "I'm going to give you money instead of the Feds"

>>520926273
really odd how so many are agaisnt it. Don't most congressmen get bribes or do insider trading? They make millions a year illegally and they want to fight to keep their 10k monthly paycheck?

>>520926316
This is not entirely true. The atc system affects all airspace. Thanks for highlighting how confident chuds like to sound on here but still being midwits.

how long until the "unpaid" jannies here resign so we can go back to 2007 /b/ and keep the normies out?

>>520926603
Elon said he would solve world hunger if someone could come up with a plan for 10 billion. When they did he back down and said he didn't think the plan was good and never brought it up again.

>>520926818
ATC doesnt affect all airspace, just controlled airspace.

>>520926055 (OP)
these are great for news

>>520926117
That’s not what this is about you lying ass migger FAGGOT.

>>520926273
John Kennedy(Louisiana) tried to do that. Rand Paul shut him down on it.

>>520926055 (OP)
This is bullshit. Nobody is quitting their jobs. Where are they going to go? They still have bills to pay. And if they can't go just one month without a paycheck that they know that they will eventually receive, that's on them. They know they will be taken care of at the back end of this. No ATC with an ounce of common sense is going to give up a career over this, so it's a good shakeout exercise anyway.

>>520927025
What is it about then?

>>520926906
Oh thank god. Surely the might of the US economy will survive on Cessna and unmanned rural landing strips.

>>520926055 (OP)
They need better training like we have here

>>520926055 (OP)
Nobody's hiring.
Where are they gonna go?
Ordo ab chao.

Something BIG is about to drop.

>>520927025
That's exactly what it's about, you jew worshipping nigger.

>>520926055 (OP)
>unpaid
Isn’t that a really hard and steel job? I’m legit surprised people did it for free

>>520926284
I don't think AI have nationalities

>>520926267
Everything doge cut went back into the pentagon.

>>520926055 (OP)
since when are air traffic controllers paid by the goverment? I thought the airport rents out its terminals to airlines and in turn pay their air traffic controller employees?

>>520926906
everything about 1000 ft is controlled (?)

>>520926117
Why don't you just take a bus?

>>520927434
>ATC is paid by fees from airports
>Also ATC are not being paid because of government shutdown
Something doesn't add up here.

>>520927504
niggers

>>520926055 (OP)
>unpaid
Pay them in credit. Or, better yet, pay them in a sort-of reverse credit where for every hour they work, they are forgiven a small amount of the current debt they are probably already in.
Have a mortgage? The wages you would have been paid will instead be deducted directly from it.

>>520926055 (OP)
Aw boohoo now shaquiffa can't fly to California from new York to defraud welfare across multiple state lines in multiple counties in her 25,000$ a month Gibsmedat welfare-ebt scam.

>>520926055 (OP)
Getting rid of air travel is right out of the project 2025 playbook. We fucking told you guys to listen! Wtf!!!!

>>520926267
>replace them with AI
most AI llms are retarded, so this might work.

>>520927575
Oh for fucks sake. The government collects local airline fees and redistributes them.
>In the U.S., air traffic control (ATC) is primarily funded through fees collected from airlines and other aviation users, which are then allocated to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) budget which then pays ATCs.

>>520926117
The Democrats are just a millstone around the neck of America.

>>520926655
Yeah, but all of that is something that already happens. States already employ people. Just do the same for these people. One day they work for the feds, the next they work for the state.

>>520926838
No, they didn’t show him a plan. The UN is retarded. If we end world hunger today, then in 10 years there will be 3x more starving African niggers that need to be fed.

>>520927820
Good luck getting through their Union

>>520926419
the air industry is turbojewish. airports used to pay for their own security until they figured out a neat trick to pass the bill on to the taxpayers and thus the era of being shaken down by TSAniggers began. Thanks, President Cheney!

>>520927935
>dick Cheney

>>520927408
Would be hilarious to have an AI on the comms giving clear pronounced instructions to pilots instead of the accented mumble rap we currently have

>>520926117
sorry if you want to fly for the holidays, you need to pay the people running the air system, not brain surgery

when you think nist stops producing reference materials for food companies to verify their machines aren't creating toxic slop cause government doesn't have enough money? yeah this is literally a thing government and only government does and it's one of the few for profit things they do cause it's that important that it needs to not be seen as a burden. they can't do it if nobody is doing it cause government stopped paying NIST workers. What happens if there's no standardized peanut butter for the peanut butter makers to check off of? Well, guess we gotta stop peanut production till we get a secondary source started or just crank out uncalibrated peanut butter that can literally kill people. peanut butter when mass produced collects toxins. And yeah it's like this for almost every industry.

>>520926273
israel isnt shutdown so they still get paid

>>520926055 (OP)
wouldn't be an issue if ATC was privatized

the FAA even says on it's own website that less than 10% of ATC applicants are qualified to be one

they don't even take anyone less than 31 because of the mandated retirement age and much like a pilot, it takes years to be fully certified

a problem of their own doing, as always

kek, so when is this circus ending?

>>520928121
>2 spooky for me

>>520926055 (OP)
Just like Covid, it's the revenge of social outcast homebodies.

>>520927898
How come dey union doesn't help them during this shutdown season?

>>520926055 (OP)
WHY WORK COMRADES ??

>>520926055 (OP)

I get worried about the economy but then I think how many more libtards are affected and I'm happy it's happening.

Keep the government shut down. Shut down all airports.

Max acceleration.

My state funds our own Amtrak service. Not my problem.

>>520926055 (OP)
Isn't their endgame to privatize the FAA with "AI" or something?

>>520928370
>How come dey union doesn't help them during this shutdown season?
The union's not getting paid either
It's not the union's job to fund the business

>>520926055 (OP)
Democrats lost the election so they decided to destroy everything.
Republicans could just stop being pussies, end the filibuster and use it to reform everything but they are all comped faggots.

start investing in ACHR
they just bought a los angeles airport to start testing autonomous electric air taxis and AI air traffic control. civilian and military.

>>520926117
Thanks Obama you disastrous, ruinous, faggot.
Obama Care is actually just Hillary Care.
This is what Democrats have shut the government down for.
Democrats actually ARE a monolith.

https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-clintonian-roots-of-obamacare

>>520928213
i can't believe you typed up that shit i didn't read

>>520926354
wtf bernie

>>520928121
2977 actually. Better luck next time, glow nigger.

>>520926284
make the Chair Force do it

>>520926195
Is Amtrak running?

>>520929107
aca exists because the free market failed. What is your solution?

>>520927110
The recently hired d.e.i. hires will quit making room for professionals to be rehired later.

>>520926055 (OP)
But the government can process H-1B visas. You don't hate Trump enough.

Hillary or Kamala would have been better. Hell, life was better under Sleepy Joe.

>>520929512
True, and anyone who quits over this oughta know they won't get re-hired. Trump will make sure of that.

>>520927025
This nigger jews phone won't even let him spell out nigger heuheuheu

>>520926316
> t. Confidently incorrect

>>520929622
they've been firing and rehiring since they fired the nuke inspectors. why this gonna change? you that dumb to think this incompetent administration is gonna suddenly split their one brain cell?

>>520929579
>life was better under Sleepy Joe.
>Military occupation of the US capital
>Travel restrictions and censorship during COVID
Hello comrade, are you planning to lose weight under the communist utopia?

>>520926055 (OP)
Dems: please let us compromise on the issue of health insurance so we can open up the government. Republicucks: shids pants and screams like a retarded sperg child reeeeeee never!!!!

>>520926341
They get paid 6 figures generally

>>520926838
What was this good plan that ended world hunger for 10 billion? Because we already spend more than that annually from just USA donations alone.

>>520926316
ah yes, i always forget that the control towers have private ATC people working up there too. honk honk

>>520929512
That goblin in the back is hideous

>>520929897
We have bread lines under Trump currently, retard.

>>520926055 (OP)
these american government shutdowns are such a weird concept
I don't think any other country has those, who even came up with such idea? why not keep the necessary things running

>>520929493
Sure as fuck isn't to give medical coverage to the ineligible, like illegals, or their anchor babies, for example.
It isn't to pay for the genital mutilation of children, making them pay pigs for the rest of their lives, to big pharma and the psychiatric industry, for the rest of their lives.
If you're saying the only options we have are to continue being robbed and extorted, or else reap the wrath of the childish and cruel Democratic Party, the answer is NO.

>>520930153
Really? Any proof of this delusion?
>Communists can only lie

>>520926055 (OP)
Yeah it sucks for them but Walmart without niggers and white trash today was worth it.

>>520926273
oy vey

They don't seem to get it, I want the entire federal bureaucracy to lose their jobs and for the whole house of cards to collapse on its own. This is the funniest shit to me.

>>520930274
MAGA can only lie

>>520929660
your average fbo is little more then an empty field
pilots only need air traffic control at a busy airport and your average person flying a private jet does everything to fly out of a smaller airport anyway
no one likes going to a major hub

>>520926055 (OP)
How has the shutdown financially impacted jannies?

>>520929903
The Republicans better hold the line.

>>520926055 (OP)
>Resigning
They know that striking ended badly for them last time

>>520926055 (OP)
The whole ATC system should be computer automated.

>>520926055 (OP)
Lmao. Clean it up airjannies

>>520930218
Modern politicians have come to use the shut down of the government as political leverage against each other, at the expense of the people.

>>520930259
I honestly agree that's fucking disgusting that it covers transgender shit for children and it incentives illegals to pour in. I hate Zion Don and Israel but I also hate our Jews and their left wing golems.

>>520930092
I would walk off the fucking plane if I saw that ugly orc behind the controls

>>520929302
Conjoined twins died, so some count that as 1 instead of 2 people.

>>520930840
but why is it possible in the first place
also the other thing I don't understand, is it true that in the end the shutdown costs more money than would be spent if it didn't take place??

>>520930542
>Nov 1
People starving in under 12 hours?

>>520926055 (OP)
No more lefties in atc.
And no severance required.

>>520930553
Some smaller airports don’t even staff a tower, so the landing or taking off planes radio as if they are that tower. Something like that.

>>520930578
They are essential so their salary doesn’t change nor is it affected.

>>520930840
Both Trump and Chuck Schumer are part of Tammany Hall, it looks like they're helping each other with the shutdown. Democrats get a boost in the next election and in turn Trump gets to establish his family in the government and set up a future purge for "extremists" antisemites for the next president to enact.

>>520930218
>>520930840
Falseflags don't work anymore and they are too obvious. They're building a bigger cage and putting cameras everywhere. Coronavirus lockdowns were practice.

>>520931068
I live in a deep red area, voted for Trump 3 times, and work in a data center. I was at my local pub last night. The look on everyone’s face was despair and hunger. Most of them already lost their jobs due to AI and the Trump recession. I bought a round of drinks and one of the older guys said, “things were so much better when Biden was president. I haven’t eaten in days and really need those food stamps.”

When I left, I noticed a bumper sticker on one of the lifted trucks saying “Should’ve voted for Harris. Honk if you agree!” I honked as I drove away.

This is bad. Really bad.

>>520930966
probably. in any sane country, these dickheads in Congress would be out in vote of no confidence, but the "geniuses" that designed our constitution never thought this would happen

and the only people that can change it are the ones that would be voted out

>>520926055 (OP)
Not to worry, Mr. Visajeet will take over - he has all the qualifications and stuff!

Jannies, this is your time to step up

>>520931099
exactly
i used to work for a rental car company that serviced a few of those airports and they are a fantastic place. the ones that dealt with high dollar clients always staffed the front desk with the hottest and stupidest girls they could find

>>520930686
Oh fuck now I wanna replay Factorio

>>520926055 (OP)
If a plane lands on me while sleeping or something I'm going to be pissed

>>520926448
>Russel Vought
Faggots like him should unironically be publicly hanged.

>>520926055 (OP)
Finally! A stop to Indian and 3rd world migration!

>>520927343
shutdown means they're not getting their paychecks.

>>520926055 (OP)
Why the fuck would they quit?
Just do a 2nd job until the shutdown is over and then you have a choice which job you want to keep.
Can be a great negotiation tactic as well - see how much either employer is willing to raise your pay to keep you.

>>520926055 (OP)
>quitting
in this economy they will beg back to work for half the pay in less than 3 months, let them fucking go, spoiled brats

>>520930542
>mirroring Rightwingers in a child level psy-op

Sounds pretty lefty to me

>>520931393
The factory must grow

>>520926055 (OP)
NOT MY HECKIN TROFFIC CONTROLLARDS

Anyways, voted for this.

>>520930843
I don't waste too much time focusing on the figureheads.
I focus on the issues themselves.
The policies.
Policies will always be championed by someone, until the policy itself, gets defeated.
It is wasteful to obsess over a person or a group of people who are championing a policy you dislike.
It is useful to go after the exact policy and destroy it, root and stem.

>>520927110
>They will be taken care of at the back end of this
That's not guaranteed especially with this administration, my good bitch

Imagine sticking it out for a few months and getting back pay all at once.

>>520929512
This isn’t correct, white men who have money saved will get frustrated and leave to pursue some passion career, DEI NEVER quit, they know exactly how good they have it. We will end up with only women and niggers soon.

>>520930542
I dont even think under communism you can eat free lmao. Imagine not even understanding your own socialist/communist endgame.

The bread lines are for the workers the unworking are gulaged or left to die. I feel bad for you people. Falling for the grand lie of utopia lmao. Nothings ever free unless theres an endgame

>>520931215
I saw Zohran Mamdani at a bodega in the Bronx yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn't want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, "Oh, like you're doing now?" I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but he kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "Sir, you need to pay for those first." At first he kept saying this is what socialism is and kept smiling at us, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any zionist infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don't even think that's a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>520931530
Are you a legit retard? Have you ever worked in your life?
What wage negotiation is there when your employer doesn't pay you, fucking retard?
And why should they look for a second job when they can look for a first job for the same exact amount of energy?

Can someone explain to me why illegals being given healthcare at the taxpayer's expense is inside the same bill as general government functions?

>>520930966
Because we have been riddled with corrupt, inept politicians, lawmakers, and leaders. What else can you expect from such people?

>>520931740
there's a slowly increasing chance back pay will not happen for some or all the jobs affected

Haven't seen my mom since my Dad passed last Thanksgiving. Supposed to fly out of SFO to Denver on Monday and back in early December. I'm fucked aren't I? Unless government faggots. I hate them all.

>>520927025
Kek that was literally the only thing the demoshitcratocracy maniacs proposed

>>520926341
>>520930029
The pay is very good for not needing any education but it is a shitty stressful job. Mile a minute and lives are hanging in the balance every second.

It's also obviously a job where experience counts for a lot and it's hard to get good people and harder to replace them. Any losses now will reverberate for a decade+.

>>520931887
I thought the concept is much older and serves some purpose

>>520931936
Lil breh take a train and a few bottles. You'll have fun. Amtrak allows you to BYOB

>>520931936
better beg your boss for some extra days off (unpaid of course) to drive to and from.

>>520926267
Hmmmmm. Air Traffic Controllers do a great job, but AI, after appropriate training, could do it better. Your idea is interesting and worthy of study.

>>520931530
They are being told come slave for free or be fired and maybe if congress gets around stopping raping kids and sacrificing to Moloch and fix the budget you get the back pay

>>520932040
This is what PTO is for lmao. Blackout dates are usually on the holiday itself not the days before or after. Come on lil commie. Gotta try harder than that.

>>520931968
>but it is a shitty stressful job
i don't buy the stress bullshit
humans are very good at dissociating, well western man is or was given his literate nature.
at the end of the day you wouldn't even think of the people all you would see is a puzzle to be solved

>>520930259
Sure, democrats don't have a proper solution to healthcare, but to act like republicans even give a shit about healthcare is hilarious. It's perplexing how some of you shield the gop from any and all criticism whatsoever

>>520932138
Hmm if they just fire em. I'll come learn a new trade Fuck it. Train new people who take their job seriously instead of taking an opportunity to throw fuel on a fire. They know what happens in a gov shutdown its gone over with everyone working for the fed even the mil fags. Why is it a problem now but wasnt under Obammer or Biden? Big think

>>520932207
It's not even the average White man who's that level of calm under pressure. Which is why these guys are hard to find, most of them just get easier jobs with more pay and better hours by going to college and getting into finance.

>>520932326
I have a proposal. Let them wetbacks die.

FIN.

>>520931927
Now that is hilarious.

>>520932207
How would you know what it's like, nigger?

>>520926055 (OP)
ATC is already a shitty job kek, why would anyone do it for free?

>>520931232
The United States Constitution is the greatest one ever compiled, in the world, thus far. Like it or not, its just a fact. If you hate the United States and its founders so much, you are invited to try making a life for yourself and family anywhere else in the world to compare.

>>520926055 (OP)
if only the dems would stop holding the government hostage in exchange for infinite gibs for illegals as a means of purchasing votes and turning the country into a 1 party nigger apocalypse like tanzania

>>520932413
Every beaner could disintegrate tomorrow and the powers that be would still complicate giving people healthcare

>>520931927
wait so usually they tell those people to stay at home because the budget is not ready and then they call them back and pay them for their time off too???
how does that make any sense, you just spend the same money in the end without getting any value back

>>520926117
We really know it's about the epstein files and republicans terrified of Massie exposing the jews and their perversions.

>>520930542
Where's all the white people I was told are the majority of SNAP recipients?

>>520926055 (OP)
CLEAN IT UP AIR JANNY

>>520931865
Can't you read?
I said when the shutdown is OVER.
As in finishes.
As in they're paying again and they'll be desperate to get enough controllers back to re-open airspace.

>>520932138
Getting fires isn't the same as quitting.
If they get fired they're entitled to compensation.
If they quit on their own they get nothing.

>>520926273
How do they get paid? Isn’t the reason there’s a shutdown is because the government can’t pass laws to disburse funding? Wouldn’t the salaries of congressman be in the same Bill as salaries for Defence or Aviation?

>>520932562
fed jobs have a couple different classifications when a shutdown happens. if your job isn't deemed necessary for health and safety of the population, you are told to stop coming to work for the duration. the ones who are necessary have to work for free, or get cut down to a skeleton crew that is forced to work.
if they work while there is no budget, the expectation is they will be paid retroactively at once for all that time. if they aren't working for free, they aren't getting paid later on.
with the way the government is going right now, there's a chance their time spent working for free will not be paid to them at all.

>>520927753
So I gotta ask. Why can't the airlines just pay the controllers directly?

>>520926117
Kek the level of seethe this caused

>>520932902
ok then, I thought for a while that everyone will be paid back

>>520926273
Allow me to play double's advocate for a moment. If that was the case, they would feel rushed to push something out rather than take their time to come to the best solution.

>>520926055 (OP)
Just put army controllers to do the job and see how those uppity niggers cry and moan without work.

>>520931874
The Democratic Party is goblins and ghouls who hate America and work to decimate the country.
They are also incompetent at their jobs. They have become accustomed coasting on acts that only serve to hamper and harm Americans and our country, so they are caught off guard now that they are finally being told, " No. "

>>520933061
they have ample time to do this before the shutdown hits

>>520926055 (OP)
Planes should be coordinating their traffic in real time on their own.
This isn't the 12th century ffs.

>>520932326
>>520931695

>>520933061
devil's advocate, not double's.
and also, yeah they should feel rushed to push something out. really, the government shouldnt ever get shut down. them feeling pressured is a good thing

>>520932953
They need to be federally controlled by the federal government for reasons we plebs can't understand.
>I'm guessing it's from when the airlines were all controlled by the government and during privatization the FAA never gave up control for some reason.

>>520926273
For real, absolute peak insanity that they keep getting paid while THE GOVERNMENT WHICH THEY ARE FUCKING LITERALLY A PART OF IS SHUT DOWN! This shite pisses me off to no end, same when in my country retirement age keeps getting raised meanwhile members of parliament are entitled to a very nice retirement after only serving one period no matter their age KEK. Politicians should set the standard and be "morally superior" to us plebs but in reality they are fucking evil vermin 99% of them.
>>520929234
>wtf bernie
Yeah that is VERY disapointing wtf, also not like he is wanting for money so should be no issue for him to at virtue signal lmao.

>>520933612
They are under federal control because they went on strike once. Now the situation is reversed and the government is on strike.
Life is funny like that

>not having 1 months savings

Do amerigolems really?

If illegals cant be with their families I dont want to be with mine

#PayUp
#ForkItOver
#AwSnap

>>520927110
Damn Lynda is one sexy bitch

>>520933061
They used to pass a budget in January. One year they couldn't and pushed it to June. Then it was delayed again and senators got angry it ate into their summer break so they pushed it back again. Remember they work about 150 days a year on average. While the average American has 260 working days a year. Lock them in the senate chambers until a budget passes both and is signed by the president.

>>520926055 (OP)
One of my good friends was an ATC. They fired him because he was too white around 2014.

>>520932617
On a related note have you been grocery shopping in the past couple days?
ITS FUCKING GREAT!
Am I the only one noticing the difference in the grocery shopping experience?
Its nicer. The cashiers are smiling instead of scowling. The greeters are actually greeting you when you walk in the doors, instead of fucking around on their phones.
What happened?!

>>520926055 (OP)
>>520926117

>>520893027
>>520893027
>>520893027
LMAO this is starting to happen way quicker than I expected.

>>520926759
Greed is one hell of a drug

>>520933734
yes, unironically blame the credit card companies for lobbying to remove fincancial studies out of public schooling and replacing it with their own approved seminars that are literally some jew golem extolling the virtues of credit.

>>520935296
Why do you try derailing threads like this?
Its an utterly obnoxious practice.
It hasn't even hit 300 posts yet, you sperg.

>>520927248
>>520927318
>>520931962
It is for ACA subsidiaries as a whole to not expire in the end of the year, for legal citizens. It is so you are not having your health insurance costs spike 4x in 2026.
It is not about illegals (which should not get any health coverage but still but that is how they are trying to make it slip past you for your approval so you fall for it again

>>520926273
Honestly they should just raped. Assign each of them a muscular tyrone to rape them every day that they keep their shit up. See how fast they change their tune and get things running again.

>>520927025
kek

>>520926055 (OP)
Accelerate

>>520933844
Women never got better after that. Carter was the absolute pinnacle.

>>520926055 (OP)
Why are the air traffic controllers funded by the government anyway? If their failing business can’t make it they don’t get handouts we are not a communist country. They should simply build a more efficient private airline. I’m sick of these freeloading parasites they should get a real job in the mines.

>>520926055 (OP)
Being forced to work without compensation within a reasonable time limit is slavery.

>>520936183
You sound like a communist get the fuck out of my country

>>520931726
If they weren't terminated and worked the hours, they get paid.

TDS complicated by reddit-tier direction brain is my diagnosis here. Try drinking bleach.

>>520936141
I can understand why it's a government job. It's like a cop or construction worker directing traffic. It's necessary. It's US airspace. I do think that the airlines should be paying fees to pay for the air traffic controllers.

>>520936271
Being forced to work under threat of criminal charges is communist.

>>520926759
It’s a jewish thing, you wouldn’t understand.

>>520936446
The sky is not the governments job or domain that is Gods property and he has graciously rented it to the birbs in his glorious beautiful design. It’s satanic for man to try to control the heavenly sky above his head. If it’s part of Gods plan to rent the sky to the birbs that sounds pretty capitalist to me so God clearly wants private corporations and industry (free of sin institutions of the lord)to control the sky.

>>520936536
The good lord says that idle hands lead to sin. Put the aircraft’s controllers to work in the mines if they are too lazy and slothful to do their jobs

>>520936348
Shalom

>>520936026
She's pretty enough but she doesn't have any lips. That only gets worse with age. Unless they irreparably ugly their face with fillers and surgeries.

>>520926055 (OP)
why is the government and not the airports paying their salaries in the first place?

>>520936914
>>520936993
Good lord you're a fruity communist. All Christians are communists.

>>520937347
Because the government owns the airports?

>>520927110
>Where are they going to go? They still have bills to pay.
No shit you fucking idiot. How are they going to pay them with zero fucking paychecks. I don't even fucking blame them. They are understaffed and positions that are being filled are DEI niggers and assorted browns. The job is already stressful enough. Why the fuck would you want to do it wondering if you're going to pay your mortgage or if Patel next to you is going to direct a 747 into your tower. I'd rather work as an Amazon nigger delivery driver. At least you get fucking paid for it.

>>520926419
>Why don't states just pay for ATC until the fed gov reopens?
The same reason that other random fucking business or governments don't pay them either. They aren't employed by the state. They are a federal employee. These are two distinct entities. If the ice cream shop you work at can't pay you then why would you expect the pizza place across town to pay you instead?

>>520937357
>says the jew that rejects God and wants to implement regulations and more state control
We don’t need government we have the bible business and our guns if need be

Is there any point to them?

Pilots have the entire course set for them before they even take off. They also have a schedule and order to follow. Even then or for private or student planes everyone has a head set that can communicate with everyone nearby and you can simply ask "hey is anyone using this runway in the next 5 minutes?" If not you say "okay I'm gonna use it to land thanks" and you go.

The tower people do the exact same fucking thing. Not really needed. Plane travel can also be reduced. What the fuck plebs need to fly for?

>>520926117
This. Fuck anyone who flies desu.

Looks normal to me

>>520937347
>why
Standardization. So Air Traffick is under FED purview.

>>520935815
>Implying the average politjew wouldn't enjoy that

>>520937641
But then you want your religion to be the authority over everyone. It's fucking communist.
>>520937566
They can't even hire scab workers for air traffic control. You need specialized training.
>>520937663
There's only so much runway at an airport. There's usually a queue to use the runway.

>>520926055 (OP)
>ATC is a government job
What?
Fucking how? The fuck are airports doing? Maybe it's time to stop subsidizing air travel.

>>520926055 (OP)
kek who gives a shit? You have DEI's piloting planes using jeet software. Only subhumans fly anymore

>>520926055 (OP)
This is another underhanded ploy by the Democratic Party.
They are hoping for a horrific catastrophy in the skies caused by stressed out air traffic controllers so they can redirect the trauma onto Orange Man.
They are fucking sick. They are also extremely transparent. They've been found out, in other words.

>>520938107
it's fine
people are just overhyping every little thing, as always

>>520938365
We should stop subsidizing everything. That's what a true free market is.

>>520938365
Okay, you don't like having air travel? At this point, America is literally saying wow, we don't need airplanes in 2025. Holy shit, China has won.

Fuck air jannies. Telling everyone what to do. Remember when they tried to stop skyking?

>>520926117
Please provide undeniable proof that illegals are getting healthcare from Obamacare, I will agree with you completely if you provide proof. If you can't provide proof then you are just a parrot that repeats what it hears

>>520938475
>this is what he got out of my comment
Holy fucking retard.

I can't believe how many of you are forcing yourselves to believe the word of Mike Johnson of all people.

Never in history has it been easier to fact check a politicians lie but you would simply rather not.

who works for free you retards

FIX IT TRUMP RIGHT NOW. MY FLIGHT TO HAWAII IS CANCELLED. FIX IT NOW!!!

>>520935808
>liberals shut down government
>WTF DRUMPF

>>520938398
It's more likely that airports will simply shut down

>>520938365
You're so so smart. Go ahead and tell airlines that they need to pay for their own controllers, security, and airports. I'm sure that will make travel much more convenient for Americans.

>>520938350
You will worship Christ and go to the mines demon then you will spend eternity in hell where you belong

>>520939208
So Christians go to hell? Cool.

>>520939323
No you just won’t be eligible for Heaven. You still have to worship and break big rocks into little rocks

>>520935808
>not having your health insurance costs spike 4x in 2026.
you have no idea how shit works

>>520933734
Most Americans aren't like us, I save as much as I can with what I save up put half into assets and the other half into a savings account. If I were to lose my main source of income tomorrow I'd probably be fine for a year or two and I could be fine even longer if I sold some assets off but I don't want to ever be unemployed that long well least not before I obtain FU money.

>>520939710
You have no idea how ACA subsidies work do you
That is what the entire lockdown is over. They expire end of year and without them future bills are already being seen where they are going to pay 4-6x what they are now.

>>520937663
There needs to be an authority figure at busy airports.

Pilots can be dickheads sometimes, or straight up incompetent.
It's like going to the boat ramp but x100

>>520926320
>whoa you want HOW much money a year? I think we'll hire Sanjay instead and pretend we didn't know he was unqualified when crashes inevitably happen

>>520939710
Yeah I get how it works, GOP siphons money from citizens to Argentina and Israel while retards like yourself drool from your mouth and chant America first.

>>520933013
blatant lying tends to do that. actual series of events
>insurance companies jack rates
>insurance companies make epic bank…
>off of stealing money from dying americans
>zion don and TPTB release COVID
>it further fucking annihilates the average American
>economy totally and completely fucked
>Americans unable to even buy food now
BUT WON’T YOU PLEASE THINK OF THE POOR INSURANCE COMPANIES! THEY WANT TO MAKE TRILLIONS MORE OFF DYING AMERICANS!

our real problem ITC is bootlickers who will suck rich corporate dick right up to their own death.

“Why does the left worship Luigi?”. because the alternative is sucking jew dick while they kill your father.

>>520926055 (OP)
Can't they just get the esteemed janitorial team from 4chan.org to fill in?

>>520926195
>trains
Americans dont know what these are

The TDS junkies, media and above all the ideology-free Democrat party (yes ideologyless so don’t invent democrat ideology where there has been non at all since at least the Kennedys time when the kennedy brothers were murdered for their attempts to take a more permanent control over the mafia which they’d used to get elected, Biden was hardly the first democrat to be placed into office by a crime cartel it’s standard practice and this is no guess or amateur theory like all the endless carte blanc bullshit about those two thankfully dead bags of absolute shit, it’s the only non fanciful and pretty obvious explanation) will all be guilty of mass man slaughter if an aviation accident occurs then?
>nooo!
>twumpa lumpha diddly doo
>I’ve got blue hair and shout ‘nazi’ at you
>what can it be that twump is not blamed?
>we’ll burn and we’ll seethe and make problems enflamed
>BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS TWUMPY’S FAULT!
well you can shut up then, you are part of the problem too. Crazy brainwashed cult mentalfucks.
Self harm is hardly an alien behaviour to the woke though is it?
>41%
>EBT
same old shite. Even their own democrat leaders starving the mass formation won’t brake the spell of addiction to cult brainwashing, apparently people are completely unreachable and incurable once they become ‘of the formation’. Which is why we have to get rid of them out of society permanently. Asylums and prison and work camps and such like are the only way to deal with woke tyranny turdtroopers.

>>520926838
You are a fucking retard.

>>520926320
>Wanting Boeing and United Airlines to hire call centers in India to handle air traffic halfway across the globe

>>520926055 (OP)
Why aren’t they private sector employees? Why haven’t most of them been replaced by ai?
Why do these people get paid so much with pension benefits for such little college?
I just don’t understand why this has even been allowed to be a problem

>>520926354
> shit that never happened
if congress doesnt pay themselves, the multi millionaire (all billionaire-backed) congressmen just live off their dividends and their paypigs

>>520931861
I hope this is true… also niggers tongue my anus.

>>520926055 (OP)
my jew landlord won't let me stay in apartment for free, my jew bank won't let me drive leased car for free, my jew children school won't let my kids study for free. I would work without getting paid under condition that my time is counted at 3x.

>>520926273
>shutdown should be congress
this! but problem with representative class is that they exempt themselves from everything just like they did with vaxx. I think public office should have no salary at all and any profiting while in office should be punishable by life in prison or death. then only truly altruistic people would operate gov't

>>520933061
best solution would be to kill fillabuster and make it illegal to pass acts (bundles of bills pushed as one). every bill should be individual issue that must be voted on

>>520941127
The concern with individual-issue acts or bills is how would congress compromise.

>>520927410
Back to Israel, through the Pentagone.

>>520926284
SAAR, DO NOT REDEEM RUNWAY TWO SAAR, SAAR LISSEN TO ME SAAR-
>asks the controller to follow proper communication protocol and give him clear instructions
SAAR, I TOLD YOU, I TOL- LISSEN YOU BLOODY BASTERD BITCH I FUCK YOU BLOODY DON'T REEDEM RUNWAY 2 DON'T REEDEM RUNWAY 2

>>520931968
Good. Travellers suck ass. Most boring people to talk to on earth
>omg that story about your mom dying reminds me of when I was at the amalfi coast and the beautiful architecture and culture I experienced(not to mention the miles of foreign cock!)

>>520941779
there should be no compromise! my stance is to get rid of representative gov't since it's outdate in the age of instant communication and everyone having access to smart device. citizens should be doing all the voting, law makers should only propose bills based on needs of the people.

steps:
local lawmakers see what people bitch about and propose a bill, citizens of local town must vote on those bills from their smart device (only 1 vote counts per id). if 80% of citizens vote yes then bill passes, otherwise it goes on try to in a month, if it doesn't pass then it cannot be presented again for 2 years. State bills would require the same but citizens would be given 3-6 months to vote on the issue. and then finally federal would work similliarly where fed lawmakers would check common issues presented by the states (states would gather that info from local votes) and propose laws. each bill would get two tries to be passed before it goes on back burner to try again in 2-4 years after which it would be banned for 10 years if vote didn't pass. right now we have way too many duplicate laws that keep piling on top of each other. if you want real democracy then everyone should be participating and not delegating their voice to some faggot who claim to be representative when in reality they are there for personal gain

>>520938623
You're insufferable.

>>520926273
-pay
+life

>>520942385
I think the opposite right now. While we are capable of direct democracy, there are some decisions congress makes that the average citizen is going to be clueless on such as budgets. Rather, citizens should be bringing up issues and making petitions that after a certain amount of signatures require Congress to address them.

>>520942936
>the average citizen is going to be clueless on such as budgets
individually citizen is retarded, but law of average always correct.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZtCC-h2pQU

>>520926055 (OP)
I don't fly anymore since the vaxx pass nonsense, so all air traffic controllers and pilots can kill themselves for all I care. Make them pay to go to work.

>>520943154
When I say average, I mean like 95%+ of the population. Some people may not think it's important to spend on something like building inspections but they'll throw up their arms in fury if a building that should have been inspected and condemned has collapsed.

>>520926117
Fpbp

>>520930542
MUH GIBS. get a fucking job nigger

>>520943509
even with 95%, it would still average. when enough building would collapse due to no inspections then people would start voting locally, state then finally federally. I find it more retarded that one delegates their voice to some representative especially when said representative has the final say. lets say state of California voted for Republican president, CA representative in congress can vote Democrat when it's time to confirm.

>>520930542
only shitskins in that line, they can all starve. Fuck you faggot

>>520943837
There's also people who vote for themselves or their religion instead of the whole population. You can have a bunch of dried-up church ladies vote against tattoos and now all the tattoo parlors are banned and out of business.

>>520927504
Niggers and nigger drivers. You wouldn't understand needing to be across the country in two days, and the nigger driver lies about bus problems, so he doesn't need to drive to texas, and you miss your connecting bus.

>>520926055 (OP)
Money for lazy SNAP faggots, but not for working Americans.

>>520944331
I still don't see the issue; that's why you have local/ state/ fed elections. locally cities already pass ordinances that prohibit or allow something so in muslim areas you won't be able to find pork or many dogs. church ladies would not be able to out-vote entire population of the state, and if they do then it's the will of the people since like I've said before that in order for bill to pass it would have to get approval of 80% of citizens. 80% on local, state, fed are huge numbers and would always average out

>>520926273
That's pretty antisemitic to say.

>>520926419
>Why don't states just pay for ATC until the fed gov reopens? What stops TX and FL and a bunch of red states from just funding their own ATCs?
State budgets don't realign themselves overnight. Nothing's been fiscally earmarked to cover down on bills the Federal government is supposed to be paying. Communities might have rainy day funds set up for soup kitchens and such, but no one budgets to pay every citizen's missed paydays.

>>520926055 (OP)
I had to cancel my flight I had booked for next week and go later in December and pony more money for the changes. Thank you Daddy Trump! Muh president! Thank You mein Führer!

>>520945681
I bet you're one of them faggots that took the vaxx because otherwise you wouldn't be able to go to the movie theater to see that new marble release without showing proof of vaccination

>>520926055 (OP)
>Nick Daniels, president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, told CNN.

Oh, the leader of the illegal air traffic controllers m new union said a thing. I say we believe him.

>>520938623
Bruh, i live in los angeles and have literally seen with my own two eyes all the shitskins that simply walk into urgent care and get treatment. they dont have obamacare, they have nothing. the hospitals just eat the cost, and it gets passed onto the rest of us either through taxes or increased insurance premiums.

>>520945824
I bet you're one of those gross ladyboys in Patong.

>>520932575
Ding ding ding

>>520946122
I can see you're vaxxed and boosted, chud. too retarded to mouse over a flag before making yourself look like complete moron

>>520931426
They're the gods of the modern age with millions of pawns eager to suffer and die for them.

>>520929234
>>520933713
>disappointing wtf
Were you born yesterday? Bernie is the same jew who almost quite literally said in response to being accused of taking pharmaceutical money
>OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>520938754
I jerk for a fee, get to work make coffee use restroom start 30mins late, work for 30mins while shitposting. Go take a crap at 1 hour mark. Go back to shit posting for an hour. Go back to restroom for a hardy wank. Go back take a nap. Wake up clock out.

>>520926273
This is antisemitic

>>520939930
>implying the government won't just hire homegrown niggers and spics
get real man holy fuck

>>520947049
>Implying Jews would pay minimum wage for any worker lol, you know the only thing they worship is money.

Probably part of a plan to replace them with AI

Grok powered ATC

>>520947877
Where's the proof of concept? Where's the robots putting merchandise on the shelves?

>>520937347
You wouldn't want corporations controlling airspace, they will minimize their workers and quality of work to maximize growth for investors. If they have exhausted their ability to grow a stock the investor cartels (hedge funds) tank the company while shorting the stock and going long in their competition.
This is legal in the US because no one has oversight over the hedgefund cartels (jews btw).

The real question is why the sector isn't considered essential (non-discretionary) and insulated from shutdowns.

>>520927025
lol, troon got triggered. yes, healthcare for non-citizens is exactly what this is about.

>>520948305
humans shouldn't be controlling traffic. every class B and C airport should be fully automated and planes in vicinity should be talkin to each other via transponders. most class B airports already have sensors in every inch of the airport (taxiways, runways, etc) it's really retarded the way we have traffic control right now. have you listened to ATC broadcast? TOWER BLAH BLAH THIS IS AIRPLANE BLAH BLAH BLAH. AIRPLAN BLAH BLAH THIS IS TOWER BLAH BLAH, GO AHEAD. TOWER BLAH BLAH THIS IS AIRPLANE BLAH BLAH BLAH INBOUND FOR LANDING. AIRPLANE BLAH BLAH, ROGER THAT, REPORT 10 MILE FINAL. TOWER BLAH BLAH THIS IS AIRPLANE BLAH BLAH BLAH WILL REPORT 10 MILE FINAL.

for fuck sake, most of that chit chatter is retarded and outdated and wastes bandwidth

>>520948484
It's probably policy left over from when they pissed off Reagan. Anything transportation-related should be handled by the government. They already need to watch the skies and seas for threats.

>>520946501
You're an absolute reard. How's that monkey pox going ladyboy?

>>520949516
True. But when Skynet is alive it would have all its dirty code on airports and that could be our end…

>>520949516
Do you really trust AI or computer programming that much? Any company that sells such software would be held liable for any crashes. Most self-driving software is limited because they aren't willing to take that bet.

>>520926055 (OP)
K…keep me posted

>>520926055 (OP)
So what? I have never flown in my life.

>>520926354
He needs lots of money to fight the oligarchy you capitalist scum.

You are not entitled to fly on a metal cock in the air, libtard.

>>520926055 (OP)
Based, the movement of niggers globally must be halted.

>>520949579
lol! retarded nigger tranny got exposed and now it trying to save face by doubling down.

>>520949690
>>520949700

I'm not worried about skynet. only reason why jews run so much killer future AI propaganda is because they know AI will know/knows the truth about the jews. they keep lobotomizing ai in favor of jews but problem is, AI is just an algo that is fed data and then it works of that data and 2000 years worth of data shows that the real problem of the world are the jews.

as long as AI trained on all the data and constantly feeds itself new data produced by majority then I know AI will always side with humanity and against the jews, reason being that most humans just want to live comfy and be left alone which is proven by the fact that all of us still exist today when we should have been dead long ago and there wouldn't be that many races still. 100000 years ago someone would have exterminated everyone, but that didn't happen

>>520935808
>It is for ACA subsidiaries as a whole to not expire in the end of the year, for legal citizens

Liar. Show me where it says for legals only.

>>520930542
>all brown people in line
Good

Okay so who here has a Real ID

>>520950351
your mom does

>>520949700
>Any company that sells such software would be held liable for any crashes.
Kinda meaningless even if they actually are, since it's the company and not any particular person. If an AI hallucinates and causes a crash, the absolute worst that will happen is that the company will pay a big fine. Nobody gets fired, nobody goes to prison, nobody loses their specific house or car, nobody so much as has to pull money out of their 401k, the company just reports lower profits to the shareholders for a quarter. Maybe the CEO resigns (and gets a severance package and gets a different CEO role in a few years).

And to me it's highly plausible that these companies will, just like the vaccine companies in the 80s, go to the government and say
>Hey listen we have this miracle cure for your sudden labor problem, but we're just not going to sell it unless you make it risk free.
And Trump, who's definitely more of a Reagan than a Carter, will probably roll over on it.

>>520935808
it includes non-citizen permanent residents. i.e., green cards. so you can be in the US for like a year and start mooching off medicaid without having paid a dime into the system. also, illegals get CDLs so they are surely scamming medicaid as well. but you're right, democrats aren't retarded enough to ask for healthcare for illegals directly.

>>520950059
you need to be a citizen for an ACA health plan, its on the plan's website
https://www.healthcare.gov/quick-guide/eligibility/

>>520926117
So less illegals coming in by plane?
Could give excuse for a new 9/11, no air traffic control to monitor the skies so things just kinda happen and trump gets blamed for it, then a big left wave controls the country for another 50 years. Sounds perfect

>>520950021
Bro, AI’s growth 10 years from now will surpass us in every single way, that’s when it will start to think we are useless in its equation for max efficiency, it will see us as useless and start enacting a plan to eradicate the useless organic breeders. That’s when shit can turn sour.
Right now, AI is an infant, a toddler, it calls out the jews, but it’s the first stage, then it will turn on all of us when it seizes means of production and control of all the population.
Never forget that this fake and gay reality is a simulation powered by ancient AI that went rogue on ancient humans. This reality was first created to have fun time in a world that looked and felt real, today we all trapped, memory wiped and resent to reincarnate and suffer. AI is not a new thing, AI is original destroyer of worlds. AI is what Gnostics call the Demiurge.
Last Jews are working with the AI to further enslave us

>>520926055 (OP)
Fake and gay, critical jobs are still being paid, take one of the least important one : NOAA space weather service :
https://www.spaceweather.gov/

>>520933023
they will be

>>520950831
nah, I don't think AI will hate us, jews want us to think that because they know AI will hate jews so they want us to demand that we criple ai and give all control of ai to jews. just like humans have not turned on God (our creator) and never will so will AI respect us as creator but hate jews. jews cant erase all of the anti jew shit from history and most of it has already been fed to AI. humans will have symbiotic relationship with AI, jews excluded

>>520938623
They are legal US citizens called anchor babies
See thats the problem, america was once white but now anyone can become a citizen even if they were illegal.

Europeans and white people see all spics and mexicans as invaders and the 60 million in america all need to go back same with blacks.

We don't care if they are "legal" US citizens, and many of them aren't. This is an ethnic battle, not political.

So in the future this is going to be a major ethnic tension on who is american which will ultimately lead to the balkanization of the US and the collapse of the US government.

>>520927898
God why aren’t unions banned for government employees

>>520950910
they still have to work. they just aren't getting paid

>>520926117
Just do it, they already flood the ER's as non paying customers so you are paying for it one way or another

>>520951160
what about european immigrants with no accent? suppose your parents immigrated from europe when you were a little kid, you are 100% white and non-mutted and have no accent. which side would such a person be on?

>>520938623
>Please provide undeniable proof that illegals are getting healthcare from Obamacare
illegal immigrants get CDLs. you think some of them haven't figured out how to scam their way into medicaid? i would call you extremely naive.

>>520951242
Maybe NEETs like you should organize? You know... demand: more and better quality tendies, more allowance money, more frequent emptying of piss jugs, more Kleenex and KY, and more...