Thread 520953432

How would you solve the national debt crisis?

>>520953432 (OP)
refuse to pay, idiot.

create AI that can massively boost economic productivity. look at the UK's debt after defeating Napoleon. Everyone thought they were doomed. But then the industrial revolution really kicked in gear and it became their century.

ah geez dude

just dont pay it wtf are they gonna do?

>>520953432 (OP)
Add more to it
Max that shit out

>>520953432 (OP)
jail the banksters close the FED and call it a day?

>>520953432 (OP)
Raise taxes obviously. Also ideally claw back part of 40 years of tax cuts from the ultra wealthy

You have been cutting taxes for 40 years without cutting spending because Republicans invented a fake economics that could get them elected by the poors to cut taxes for the donors

install trump
so he can bankrupt it like all his other businesses

>>520953432 (OP)
Build more powerplants so energy is cheaper per capita and real jobs can actually be created.

>>520953432 (OP)
In some cases these are debts where person A ultimately owes person B and person B ultimately owes person A and the broker is just making money in between. These could be cancelled out.

>>520953432 (OP)
TND and TKD

after we stop spending money propping up a jewish state and a massive nigger population our costs will drop to almost nothing and we'll have a massive surplus to pay off our debts and improve our nation.
But as long as niggers and jews remain ungenocided we cannot move forward.

>>520953655
power generation isn the problem to economic mobility
wealth hording and for profit money printing, compounding interest and losing buying power is the problem

>>520953576
They'll stop buying bonds?
So then the government can't finance anything.

Everything comes down to energy production.
Kardashev (Russian cosmonaut) made a scale on how we need to harness energy to get to the new types of civilization.
By restricting energy consumption the u.s. government basically set the players in place and didn't allow any competition.
There's a reason why China is so dominant today.

When Trajan took the throne in Rome he gathered up all the promissory notes and burned them in a sacrifice. Today we can do the same thing, under the concept of international law known as odious debt.

Look it up it's easy.

>>520953432 (OP)
Increase taxes, cut boomer entitlements, decrease regulations.

>>520953526
>>520953526
The specific ai that needs to be made is the one from Westworld that maximizes the productivity gains from each person predicting exactly how useful they will be and the event of their life far into the future. Understanding what the future is based on the exact alignment of the quarks in the present. This will be the USA secret project of the decade. The TV show Devs predicts the type of technology.

>>520953724
Yes it is.
When you limit cheap energy, make regulation around new business, and use fiat debasement to patch the issues you get major stagnation.

As the leader of the free world? I would slowly and discreetly amass as much of the world’s gold reserves as I could get my hands on and then I would order the federal reserve to immediately print $40T and pay off the nations debts. I would then establish a new currency based on a gold standard and use the Department of War to enforce it as the new, mandatory global currency.

There would be violence and so much death but in the end it will have been worth it.

nuke goyslop land and their masters

>>520953724
kWh trended to 1 cent under the gold standard due to innovations.
Now it's 15-20 cents due to money debasement.

>>520954129
not when the whole system is made to funnel the wealth out of the hands of the population to begin with
energy cost and production is just a bottleneck for very large projects
the trickle down economy IS NOT WORKING
the infinite money printing devalued the currency
the fractional banking system IS OUT OF THEIR FUCKING MIND
someone got to take that fucking printer away holy fuck
compounding interest should be illegal in fact usury should be outlawed
now you would see the biggest economy ever
not a handful of doubag comparing their yacht like it's their dick
the economy is not working
the money isn worth shit and god only the fuck know how much of it is in circulation
it's fucking done
it's a house of card ready to fall so hard schlomo is going to lose his pants

>>520954453
You need shekel hoarders to gamble on futures to build an actual market, it's just a shame that they get bailed out when it doesn't work for them.
In a too big big to fail economy we'll continually get debased.

It's time for a new currency based on energy.

Boomer austerity, pogroms, etc.

>debt is denominated in USD
>print $40 trillion in USD and pay back all the debt
>simultaneously switch to a new currency and start using that one, while claiming the new currency is superior and worth more than the old USD
>offer a 100 to 1 swap, whereby the old USD can be converted to the new USD
>everyone uses the new USD and is happy

>>520953432 (OP)
The only solution at this point is just to not pay, cancel the debt and make lenders take the L.
In a sane world what they gonna do? They are literally just old fucks in suits. Yet they control the world, control the militaries, control the media, etc.

>>520953432 (OP)
Gas the kikes. It's more possible now than ever. Metadata could be used to identify every Jewish person in usa and where they live. ICE is doing a good warm-up on the illegals. Going after the kikes will be a little tougher because they're rich and can hire armies of good goys to defend them. Once the jews are gone we can write laws making jusaism illegal and issue a new currency based on oil or something.

>>520953997
what if shitposting is as useful as you can be?

>>520953432 (OP)
There is no actual solution besides moving to a new monetary system. For every dollar created out of nothing the FED charges interest. Therefore there simply aren't enough dollars in existence to "pay it all back". Hopefully we move to a saner system next time that focuses on sustainability and is controlled by the populous rather then the current open conspiracy that funnels our labor/goods into the hands of our captors.

>>520953432 (OP)
Threaten any country we owe debt to with total destruction unless they forgive the debt. Make an example out of one of the weaker countries to send a message/warning.

It's time to use some hardcore mafia tactics so we can get out of this mess.

>>520953997
Yeah leave this up to a jewish a.i. to decide your life what could go wrong?

>>520953432 (OP)
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>>520953432 (OP)
Most of our debt is to domestic lenders. Declare that lenders that got bailed out by the US government in 2008 and Covid will have a proportional amount of national debt annulled in increments over time.
You don't get to charge interest on the debt we made to keep you from going bankrupt.

>>520954881
This is literally what third-world countries do, lmao.
Doesn't work because the swap ratio is usually fair, so nothing changes.

>>520954881
How do you print 40 trillion USD without adding more debt?

>>520953432 (OP)

Nationalize oil, have it pay into a sovereign fund which invests in the country and global markets, put the profits of that towards interest costs of debt and to relieve income tax on those making under 500k a year.

>>520954932
75% of the national debt is to domestic lenders. Only 25% of our debt is in the hands of other countries.

>>520953432 (OP)
Start war with Saudis and take all their oil/gold.

>>520953432 (OP)
"it doesn't exist" and it is illegal to contradict that statement

>>520953550
>make sam hyde the new treasury sec
>when debt collectors call, he picks up and tells them a story
>he keeps talking for hours on end
>they eventually agree to settle for 25% of the total
>pay them in freshly printed trumpbucks

>>520954881
>This but short the bag holders

>>520954671
>It's time for a new currency based on energy.
that's not a bad idea but isn bitcoin the exact precise opposite of what you suggest interestingly
the biggest waste of energy and resources ever created
>You need shekel hoarders to gamble on futures to build an actual market
I agree, it's just sad the builders don't understand you don't build on a solide shaking foundation

>>520955115
>I agree, it's just sad the builders don't understand you don't build on a shaking foundation

>>520955045
Honestly there are a lot of industries in america that we could nationalize and save an absolute fuckton of money. Farming, residential construction, and healthcare would all be dramatically cheaper for the american consumer if nationalized, and could form a source of revenue for the government as an alternative to taxes.

Imagine if not only was your mortgage cheaper, but the interest on your mortgage payments funded the government instead of banks and kept the government running without taxing your income?

offer to repay the debt in the form of Bearista cups, which are currently going for $500 each.

>>520953866
>So then the government can't finance anything.
Wealth is not debt.
Wealth is resources.
Just don't pay the jews.
If they stop buying bonds then stop caring and just continue to operate as normal.
The bonds and federal reserve does nothing productive and is only a bureaucratic corporation that does nothing to help anyone in society.

Default on the currency, purge all Jews and niggers, and kickstart a new currency backed by American labor and productivity Nazi style

>>520955027
why would it add debt? it's all pretend jewish fiat to begin with, so if we pretend we solved the debt then it goes away.

>>520953432 (OP)
Amendment for balanced budget including funding for entitlements except under certain, very specific circumstances like invasion of us soil by a foreign military. Pandemics don’t cut it, depressions don’t cut it terror attacks don’t cut it collapsing birth rates or food insecurity doesn’t cover it. Deportation of anyone without 2 verifiable white parents regardless of nationality, tkd and tnd.

>>520953432 (OP)
"Im not paying lol" now what jew?

>>520954881
All sorts of latin american caudillos have tried these kinds of schemes. It never works.

>>520953517
Defaulting is the most American thing that can happen.

>>520953432 (OP)
The Jews say you’re supposed to forgive debt every seven years. If the USA was less anti-Semitic they wouldn’t have this insane debt. This is what happens when you’re country is 46% white with an average IQ of 56.

>>520954927
Also when moving to the new system set caps for currency transfer for individuals and businesses using a calculation based on revenue/expenditure.

Non-american holders are SOL. If/when the government takes back ownership of our own currency we can simultaneously take back printing power of the current currency and simply print our way out of "debt".

Also we need to shift our economy back to independence before doing so to prevent significant impact when we decide to do this. The rest of the world's economies will also implode since everyone is currently using the same form of fiat based on the dollar.

>>520953432 (OP)
You get rid of the meme money, it was a scam from the beginning and nobody is required to pay anything back to a scam and a financial hostage situation.

Realistically
>raise age of retirement to 70 (currently 67)
>audit military for frivolous spending
>increase taxes on those making $1 million dollars a year
>close tax loopholes
>shut down climate change sectors that find a million ways to complain without producing solutions (fuck NASA)
>increase spending on AI, energy, semiconductors, and data centers
>give massive tax credits to anyone looking to create data centers and factories

>>520955115
BTC is the put option on kWh the lowest sale price.
Nobody is "wasting kWh mining Bitcoin"
It's only profitable under 5 cents a kWh to mine.
Every other use case makes more sense before you decide to mine.

Mining being a put option also allows you to over build powerplants for the future.
Instead of needing inefficient peaker plants you can over build nuclear or stranded hydro or whatever and create an economy around it before it settles into actual more profitable economic usage.

The one problem with Bitcoin as a currency is that you can't really create debt instruments around it.
So I think a local currency backed by the powerplant based on kWh will allow a futures market, and savings/trade outside the region will be settled in BTC because nobody wants kWh futures currency from once place to spend in another.

>>520953724
you forgot consolidation.
the actual problem with our current system, same as it ever was.
Business need to be broken up and scattered to the winds, attempts to build up business "empires" need to be met with the country dealing with the idiot trying it.

>>520955268
I agree it'll be choppy but likely necessary.

>>520953671
Wrong. This is antisemitic.

Tax the wealthy.

>>520955268
America could not actually survive having to budget like a normal country in its current state.

>>520953432 (OP)
We're #1!
>We're #1!

>>520953432 (OP)
TND
TKD
Total system reset.

>>520953432 (OP)
there is no solution; only more debt, or collapse.

>>520955494
Henry Ford created this idea 100 years ago while camping with Edison they would argue about the potential energy of each river.
This was during their famous vagabond camping trips where 100 years ago they had cars, electricity, support trucks, etc., and traveled across America.

The 2nd part of the idea kind of piggy backs off the bancor idea replacing gold with BTC as the reserve.

>>520953432 (OP)
Print money and discreetly give it to Tether who will then use those freshly printed $ to purchase treasuries so they can issue more stablecoins to pump into bitshit. Pump bitshit, which US alphabet agencies created out of nothing, to an absurdly high price and try to claim he US gov is rich again and can easily pay our debts because the price of our bitshit is so high even though it’s absolutely nothing. Much of the world won’t buy the scam but most of he debt is held domestically and Americans are probably retarded enough to buy it.

Pretty much what it looks like the gov is trying to do rn.

>>520955494
By design BTC and crypto are net energy negative. You can't spend that much on energy or else the economy of a country will always be directly tied to it's capacity to mine cryptocurrency.
It's the direct opposite of a currency based on energy production output.
A new currency owned by the country itself tied to their energy capacity and participation to the global grid and a basked of rare metal value.
You outlaw usury and you destroy the fractional banking system taking away the right of private banks to create money out of thin air and giving it to their competitive dreidel spinning friends.
It's the only way anyway.

>>520953432 (OP)
Round up the homeless and sell their organs

>>520955718
>she thinks the wealthy keep their money in taxable accounts reachable by the US government

>>520953432 (OP)
Just print more money.

>>520955592
You're right but the population doesn understand what is happening.
Those monopolies were created by the DOD, DHS etc. to keep the US competitive on a global market against the heavy productive capacity of the eastern communists countries.
They're not born out of mistakes. They're all homegrown projects to create behemoths able to conquer the world market.
You can break amazon but then you're facing alibaba with your dick in your hand and nothing to compete with it.
You see the problem they had?

>>520953432 (OP)
TKD
fixing everything after that will be trivial once the demons are gone.

>>520953432 (OP)
You can't solve it because debt is money.
Once you start paying off the debt, you destroy the money supply.
But really you just create a new monetary system and write off the old one.

>>520953432 (OP)
Its just paper

The wealth is in our land. Just make a new currency

>>520956039
Think of it as a futures contract.
kWh can't be transported very far, local kWh currency is useless outside the host county, when there's a discrepancy in production vs usage you mine, when you want to prep for economic growth you mine until you get industry online, building industry and growth is more valuable than mining, but trading BTC is more valuable than local kWh futures on the international market.

Sure we could use gold too, but that would direct energy to the gold mines instead of prepping for industrial growth.
Also trusting ledgers and shipping it across oceans is a pain.

Yeah banking and usury needs to be corraled I agree it's all fake, why give them the power to create money and make your community indebted?
I think it should be tied to potential kWh creation productive usage.

Create a bank, dump all the US debt into it. Then force the bank into bankruptcy. Maybe sacrifice a large bank like jp Morgan.

blow up the banks
kill all ceo's
eat the fuckin rich

>>520955455
>>audit military for frivolous spending
This. From the way people in the service are talking, units are scrimping and saving, but the budget is increasing. There has to be something fishy there.

>>520956013
Kek, also use USD1 liquidity (Trump's stablecoin) as bribes for pardons (binance CEO cz)

just don't pay it back
>then nobody will lend you any
they will be forced to, or go to jail. multimillionaire? congrats on your obligatory bond purchase. will be paid back this time though, probably, or not whatever we'll see

>>520956626
Crime family Trump and his lackies are siphoning up billions maybe even trillions of USD. basically stealing from the public in public

>>520955063
>75% of the national debt is to domestic lenders
Even better. We can use the CIA for this.

>>520953432 (OP)
Simple, just zero out everyone's debt to each other at the same time.

These days, money is purely information, and debt exists only on paper. Consider a bank with a ledger stating A owes B $400, B owes C $600, and C owes A $1000. If A, B, and C are considered to be our economy, then the public debt is $2000.

Want to eliminate the public debt? Modify the bank ledger and write down that A, B, and C all owe $0 to anyone. You've now solved the debt crisis, which only became possible once the USD became decoupled from tangible money, such gold or silver.

Consider the implications. Nothing in the real world changes; property is kept, and assets are retained. Bank account values remain constant, but monetary outflows from the bank accounts immediately decrease.

I would start by donating large sums of money to Venezuela, Israel, and Ukraine cause that’s what Donald Trump did and I trust he knows what he is doing.

>>520956484
>kWh can't be transported very far
Well the petro dollar was a thing for a while but that's dying in real time.

It was pseudo energy currency when the U.S. could control the middle east but it also bankrupted the dollar with debt.

>>520956936
bankster don't want you to know this but there was 4 debt jubilee in the last 200 years

>>520953432 (OP)
That's jews' problem, it's their debt.

>>520956626
My friend was a soldier in the Obama years. He said they were told to use all surplus ammo in order to justify upcoming budgets. The military needs to get audited.

>>520953432 (OP)
>...

>>520953432 (OP)
Solutions?
>Hyperinflation:
Print money + pay debt with confetti paper + wages evaporate.
result:
Money printer goes Brrrr. People rush to spend money today, otherwise tomorrow is worth half, prices hike hourly, Savings evaporate overnight, creditors fucked, pension dust = elderly destitute, $100 trillion for an egg, need insulin? sell your kids or you are dead. Shadow Barter economies emerge, militias forms if it gets bad. likely less bad than the other option but just slightly and potentially never-ending.


>Austerity:
Slash spending 50% for *20 years straight* + withering depression, riots.
result:
Slash public spending by 30% immediately, Pensions reduced 25%, Schools/hospitals lose 50% funding, close rural facilities (or city ones, it depends), fire 40% of teachers/nurses, Infrastructure decay. Tax Explosion: VAT 30%, 15% income tax, unemployment soars to 25%. Later: Crime surges 300%, Currency devalues 50%, food price quadruples, brain drain. Later: Militia forms, State paramilitary police operate with impunity, Shadow economy half of the real of GDP. If the state survives is just a name.
>Debt Jubilee:
Wipe the slate clean
result:
global financial chaos as credit collapse. "who is next?" mentality, bank runs, likely fiat collapse, hyperinflation as well as state must print as it cannot borrow. Social chaos, pensions wiped out, elderly become destitute. Lifesaving imports cut (insulin, parts), preventable deaths skyrocket. Riots over food shortages, 100% guarantee militias forming. balkanization.

>>520956626
There should be a Stalinist purge of the US military, and all defense companies nationalized.

>>520957874
>invoke the Gold reserve act of 1934 to revalue gold reserves as mark to market.
>use said act to drain the Feds gold into the US Treasury.
>make the Treasury print new US dollar backed 100% by said gold reserves.
>central banks and all fiat currencies start dropping like flies.
>debt simply ceases to exist.

>>520958723
>George Soros asks to convert his net worth into gold
>run out of gold
>dollar instantly becomes worthless

>>520957874
I disagree with your characterization of the three outcomes.
>Hyperinflation
The actual result of Hyperinflation is what you state is the outcome of Debt Jubilee; see Weimar Germany and Zimbabwe for historical examples.
>Austerity
This actually works if you simultaneously destroy much of the circulating currency. If spending demand is reduced at the same time currency supply is reduced even more, the price of all goods will necessarily fall. Because all people are affected, the end result is a downward adjustment of all prices. If the destruction of circulating currency is designed to protect individual bank accounts, you've now made people significantly wealthier by making all goods cheaper.
>Debt Jubiliee
The only losers in the this scenario are transnational banks because their revenues have been nuked, but they created the current problem, so just desserts for them.

>>520953432 (OP)
Ban jews from positions of power.
Ban usury.
Ban pornography.

everyone killing a jew and living in their mansions off the infinite supply of gibs stipened onto the cards they had in their wallet until there are no more jews living in mansions to choose from, problem solved.

>>520953432 (OP)
>How would you solve the national debt crisis?
by releasing the epstein list. that's all we care about

>>520953432 (OP)
Deport all black, brown, and yellow people.

>>520960219
You Epstein List cultists are insufferable.

>>520953432 (OP)
Give 40 billion to Argentina. That's how we solve the debt crisis and lower housing costs

>>520960312
You pedo defenders are insufferable. Until Zion Don releases them fully unredacted, he's a child fucker.

sell commiefornia to china, i bet they'd pay the 40T for it

>>520953432 (OP)
Move to a country that isn't in debt.

>>520960443
take your meds

>>520960647
Stop defending jewish pedophiles

The french method

>>520953432 (OP)
Delete it all for everyone

>>520960697
stop shitting up the board fighting figments of your imagination

>>520953432 (OP)
50 year mortages so married couples can labor for 100 years of serfdom for a home of their own.
This is necessary to bail out the asset owners and landlords who can never be allowed to lose only the poor.

The GOP will have american streets drenched with blood, the congress burned down and the bankers put up the lampost if they continue to float this bullshit.

This is no longer policy this is getting the order of operations wrong.
First you take the guns, then you take the votes, then you enslave the people.

Rookie mistake.

>>520960829
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>>520953432 (OP)
Debt Jubilee

Let the jewish bagholders kick rocks

>>520960917
>abandon your home board to shills
no I dont think I will

>>520961014
>Home board
This isn't r*ddit and this isn't r/the_donald.

Most of the world's gold reserves are stored here because the US military is here. Even countries that are enemies keep their gold here, because there's a handshake rule that the US will never confiscate that gold. The US doesn't worry about its debt because of this.

>>520961133
you can call me a r*dditor or a migger or whatever epithet you can think of, I will still be here to call you a schizo retard whenever you spam about muh epstein list and call everyone you dont like a pedo for months with no evidence

>>520956147
>Argentina flag
checks out

>>520953432 (OP)
Kill the Hebrews

>>520955449
It is actually this simple. Banking is just a psychological trick. Economic physical realities like energy, metal, food, tools, even half abstractions like "services" are real. They keep being really even if every unit of money in existence disappeared. You don't need banks for anything. Banking is literally just psychological trickery.

>>520953432 (OP)
Simple as

3 options
>Massively raise taxes
>Cut Spending
>Borrow and Pay Interest

Guess which one is the easiest, legal, and most politically feasible? It’s simple you just take money from the tax payers and give it to the rich fucks that buy our debt and interest.

What a great way to transfer wealth. >from poor to rich. very smrt. wow.

>>520963305
Except it’s the rich paying taxes and the borrowed money all goes to poor niggers on welfare.


It’s just taxing the rich job creators and giving it to lazy nigs

>>520963099
Banking isn't real, but parasitism is.
USA has a gigantic trade deficit because you've been living above your means and the worlds been trading valuable things against your printed paper.
Now you have three options a) continue printing more money which will lead to Weimar 2.0 hyperinflation b) stop trading which will make your country poorer than north korea or c) declare war on everyone and die in nuclear hellfire

>>520963293
Unfortunately it’s constitutional since our founders purposely chose to not include balance budget or similar language during the framing. The entire treasury outlined in the construction is literally one sentence. “To promote general welfare”. They purposely left it ambiguous because they didn’t think future politicians would be niggers and spend money they don’t have.

>>520963383
Welfare is dumb and gay. But half the country thinks it’s morally defensible.

Interest payments are 100% detrimental, offers zero utility, and negatively impacts GDP. Everyone agrees its stupid, and it only exists because rich jews make b-b-b-bank on our debt.

>>520953432 (OP)
Hard default all government debt globally, but keep the fiat
The citizens own their respective countries, not international banksters that print a bunch of gov debt in your name and get richer for free
There is no such thing as undefaultable debt, and the year of jubilee they have will print cash to pay the debt / zero it out
but cash is a real contract
all the debt is fraudulent
Easy solution.

>>520963608
Literally everybody supports interest payment, it skyrockets the economy, channels money into investors hands where they have more capital to invest, and keeps America solvent.

Not a single American is against interest expense

>>520953432 (OP)
Abolish the fed, isn't like 95% of debt to the jewish central bank?

tax rich people like we used to. over half the debt is from bush jr and trump tax cuts. we have tons of billionaires in the 90s.

>>520963429
That line was explicitly in reference to the functions of federal government outlined in article 1.

Your interpretation of general welfare completely negates the divisions of power. The Consitution says “any power not explicitly granted to the federal government is in the hands of the state”, I paraphrase,

Under the interpretation of general welfare you implied the federal government would have authorization to do anything, mitigating the entire separation between the federal government and states

>>520963388
Or just cut welfare and run a balanced budget

>>520963807
If we cut social security unemployment and Medicare we wouldn’t need to tax the rich.

>>520963787
No, it would be good if that’s the case because the FED gives profits back to the treasury, unfortunantely most debt is held by the private sector.

>>520953432 (OP)
Creditors get to torture prominent Jews and their golems in lieu of payment. Who wants to sell some organs?!

>>520953432 (OP)
>>520953517
>>520953576
I wouldn't refuse to pay, however, I would declare that it's now at a 0% interest rate and start paying off the principal. I'd also begin gutting ALL entitlements and abolish the income tax to spur rapid economic growth.

>>520953432 (OP)
print a single 1 Bazilion dollar bill and hand it to the jews

>>520953432 (OP)
There's nothing that CAN be done at this point. Boomers and Gen X racked up an obscene debt in Millenials and Gen Z's name, while looting every single asset the country had, to maximize their lavish retirements. The interest payments alone are already about 1 trillion dollars per year, more than we spend on defense.

Consider that if we cut our government spending by 25%, we would still only be breaking even with what we bring in every year in taxes. That's assuming the numbers I'm looking at don't include the 1 trillion, I'm not actually sure if they do or not. But let's say they do. If we cut spending by 50%, we would have about 1.75 trillion left to pay down the debt, which would take us 20 years at that level of austerity to pull off, which isn't feasible, because over half of the country are worthless parasites that would riot if they lost their gibmedats.

We're all just pretending things are still normal at this point, while the 'elites' suck as much wealth as they can from the dead husk, before the inevitable collapse. One day, you'll just notice that all of our politicians, most of our upper class robber barons, and the countless talking head sycophants will mysteriously hop on a plane to israel or new zealand, and then the spinning plates start crashing.

>>520964099
all money printed from central banks is debt that has interest charged on it. the money is destroyed when you pay it back. it cannot be paid back, since the first dollar was printed. thats why they will never stop the money machine. atleast thats my understanding.

>>520955455
>increase spending on AI, energy, semiconductors, and data centers
lol
"AI" is a scam, it currently consists of a gigantic circular investment scheme whereby one AI adjacent company invests in a 2nd AI adjacent company, who takes that money, and 'invests' in a 3rd, who eventually invests in the original company.

Everyone's short term valuation skyrockets, the stockmarket probably even knows that the shit is going to implode, but everyone thinks they'll be the guy who gets in, gets their profits, and gets out before the musical chairs stop.

The entire mega investment scam for "AI" only pays off, if they made AGI, and it functionally replaces almost all labor. The cost to run the slop chatbots, and to train them, makes it impossible for retail uses to ever be profitable, they're only making some profit off of retard corporations thinking they'll be able to use the chatbot to lay off massive portions of their workforce.

Except every serious study has shown that AI doesn't actually increase productivity at all, and actively harms it. In programming it's barely better than a random jeet copy pasting stack overflow code.

Since a capitalist system runs on debt it appears this is wild success. The budget isn't supposed to be balanced. There's 0 growth if it doesn't carry debt.

>>520953517
The vast majority of the creditors are American citizens.
>sorry Grandpa, you can't retire because the bonds you purchased are now worth zero, get fucked
That won't go over as well as you think it will. At best you're out of a job come reelection. At worst you're dragged from your office and hanged until dead.

>>520953526
The UK took 200 years to pay off the debt from the Napoleonic Wars. Also the extreme debt is what let Rothschild strong-arm them into making a central bank, the profits of which allowed his descendants to spread their tendrils across the world and cause ever major problem in the last 200 years. You couldn't have picked a WORSE example of bad government debt policy.

>>520953432 (OP)
Double it and pass it to the next person.

>>520964753
>Grandpa voted to give himself infinite gibmedats, but without paying for it
>Grandpa voted to wreck labor markets, and empower ridiculous anti-american corporations, because it made their stock portfolio go up
>Grandpa voted to import infinite numbers of shitskins, and to outsource every job, to make their existing wealth 'go farther'
Grandpa can get fucked. Shouldn't have wrecked the country in a bid to have a cushy retirement.
Most of those fuckers retired at 65 after the most charmed labor market to ever grace the planet. Walk in, shake someone's hand for an equivalent to 100k a year job, with housing that could be paid down with a few years worth of salary in contrast to modern houses that require 30+ years of salary.

Some generation is going to get fucked, why would it be the later ones that didn't put us in this mess?

Massively cut all boomer gibs (social security + medicare) + totally gut military spending + tax hike for mega richfags

All other answers are delusion

They generated 15 trillion in just 5 years and nobody seems to give a shit? Does anybody know how much money that is and the shit you could buy with it?

>>520953432 (OP)
Create super high stock prices, sell the stocks to pay the debt.

How would I as a foreigner go into debt in America, hypothetically speaking?
I want to debtmaxx in the US of A baby!

>>520953432 (OP)
If a dollar doesn't exist/isn't represented as a paper note or coin, it is deleted.
I don't care who's account comes up short.

>>520963293
Social security pays for itself, so you would lose money canning it.

>>520964945
It's not just the elderly. Most people's portfolios unless they are very young have some bonds in it. You would be screwing over a supermajority of the voters and they would just elect someone who promised to pay back the bonds next election. An actual solution to this debt problem would be to eliminate the idea of non discretionary spending, and have all laws have a built in sunset date at most 10 years from their date of passing. Once all spending has to actually be debated an voted on regularly it will go down. The fact that each year we're on the hook for more than me take in because of a bill passed in the 1930s is the actual problem, and any cuts other than that are rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

>>520953432 (OP)
Create the Federal Reserve 2 CBDC edition, the issue rallods instead of dollars. Rallods are now the official currency of the US government and do not owe any to anyone. If someone calls to be paid back Trump can pick up the phone and say "New economy, who dis?"

Start a war. That's usually what gets the economy going. I wouldn't feel good about it but that's what they've done historically

>>520953432 (OP)
Immigration. New people new tax payer

>>520965401
>Start a war
this isn't 'Nam dude. zoomers are not "good goys" they will not tolerate a draft.

>>520965417
someone get this man an EU position of power

>>520965401
WW3 started a few years ago, according to future historians.

>>520953622
Just seize their assets instead. What is Elon gonna do with a gun in his face?

>>520953432 (OP)
Kill the Bank and start a new currency based on the work of American citizens.

>>520965551
I wonder if F-22s could intercept and shoot down a Falcon-9 launched without warning towards DC. Probably, they did shoot down flight 9800 on 9/11 after all.

>>520953432 (OP)
arrest all of the banking jews for making fake money and injecting their fake money into our real money economy claiming that they attempted to usurp the authority of the US Federal Government. Let's see how fast the debt bubble pops when the blatant fraud is called out

>>520953432 (OP)
If it's all just a fugazi then the only thing you can do is being the biggest and the baddest dogg of the pack. Russia is getting a lot of serious real combat experience. Trump chickened out of Iran. China is ever growing and waiting for an opportune moment in the yellow sea. Other players are kind of a meme except maybe france. In other words, prerend like the dept doesn't exist at all but also don't cancle it. You can only do that by being the strongest. Obama had no issues proving US might post 2008. Who is Trump really loyal to? Q?

>>520965401
War is literally what destroys the economy without war you’d have a perfect economy .

>>520958723
You been listening to the Rasta Mannarino?

Cancel medicare, medicaid, snap, and payments to other countries.

>>520965756
It only destroys your economy if you lose. That's why Germany was in shambles after WW1. So they started WW2 and their economy was absolutely bustling. But then they lost again and now look at them. The US made the wise decision in WW2 to wait until pretty much everyone's resources were depleted and then they struck. I don't condone it, but war will make your country's economic status great again if planned properly.

>>520953432 (OP)

>If the budget isn't passed balanced both members of the house only get paid federal minimum wage that year
>For every percentage of deficit vs revenue that percentage of every representative's net worth is taken to be used to help pay the budget
>2024 4.9 trillion revenue and 1.8 trillion deficit.
>1.8 is 36.7% of 4.9
>Every representative owes 36.7% of their net worth including property stocks everything and it cannot be undone by filing bankruptcy or something
>If they become broke and homeless they will be given a one bedroom apartment in a commy block we build for the potential situation that only house representatives can live in.
>We'll be nice, if they have children the children are given rooms too and the standard prison meal from their respective state will be provided for free daily.
>Additionally if no budget is passed and the government shuts down they owe 1% of their net worth per day of shutdown and are not paid during it.

They'll figure it out pretty quick.

>>520956095
>she thinks tax avoidance is a real thing and not a meme for midwits

>>520966080
>give them a one bedroom commie block
>give them a nicer accommodation than even the upper middle class get

Shiggy diggy

>>520953432 (OP)
exterminate all jews and take their former property to pay it off. it's legal since we ran up a debt fighting their wars also they are traitors which is punishable by death.

>>520960859
>The GOP will have american streets drenched with blood, the congress burned down and the bankers put up the lampost if they continue to float this bullshit.
Nigger, stop clowning around... please.

>>520953432 (OP)
I would get paid lots of money for me.
If I had the money I would hire everyone to do different jobs.

>>520965116
>almost 50 k per capita
>you get a car and you get a car
>everyone gets a car
I guess trust in the USD will dwindle as reserve currency.

>>520966054
Germany only started sucking in the mid 2010s when global progressive wokeism went full steroids mode and they started the shitskin flood. They had a nice little thing going post Berlin wall up until that point. I wouldn't call what's happening to them now post ww2 looting after they had such a prosperous run. The only thing you could argue if conspiracy is afoot is that the US is controlled demoing their vassal states before you guys pop and nobody gets funny ideas about power restoration

>>520960219
>>520960443
all those girls look pretty happy

>>520953432 (OP)
>Make deficit spending illegal (fine congress members that pass such budgets with a "YEA" vote a minimum of $50k each)
>Ban congress members and their families from owning any stocks, members themselves will have no provided 401k nor subsidized healthcare for their term(s)
>Congress members will be paid based not on a national average salary but upon most common national hourly wage (could be $7.25 or could be more, who knows)
>Ban all foreign lobbyists from petitioning or advocating on U.S. soil (yes, including jews)
>Immigration moratorium for a minimum of 50 years
>Refugees will go back to their nations or nearest "safe" country in no more than 5 years regardless of status
>Ban dual-citizenship
>Criminalize the use of AI in mass media along with their affiliates and also use of AI for advertising in-general (minimum 2 years in prison and no parole)
>Revaluate domestic cryptocurrencies with their value hard-locked to the USD, all foreign trading in crypto is also criminalized (minimum of 2 years in prison without parole)
>Enforce existing federal statutes on drugs nationwide in all states (if you are in this union, you're going to respect its rules as decided by your national congress)
>Mandate that the Federal Reserve must back the USD with gold
>Phase out all government subsidies other than Social Security and severely limit SSI/SSDI
>Phase out Keynesian economic policy completely
>Bankruptcies by any person in this nation will bar them from taking any loans or using forms of credit for a minimum of 5 years
I can think of more but this is a start. Only way we would see any of this is if Americans overthrew the government