Thread 521090425

Does anyone know why these two provinces both hold a separatist movement?

What would they gain in leaving our beautiful country?

And also, if you're in either one of these provinces, please tell. What are your arguments for separatism?

>>521090425 (OP)
>Why does Québec and Alberta want to leave Canada?

No one wants to live with towelheads

Quebec's sovereignty goes back centuries and is based on having a completely different origin than the rest of Canada. Quebec has its own culture and a landmass that can sustain itself with bountiful natural resources of all kinds and a generous coastline.

Alberta's """"independence movement""" started a few years ago when dumb rednecks started falling for putin/trump propaganda. It is a province like any other, except it's landlocked and could never function as an autonomous country.

>>521090854
>t. gay frenchie

The McGill family was directly responsible for the hanging of the Quebec Patriots in 1838-1839. They were part of the committee that made that decision.


The Molson family trained British soldiers that went on the burn Quebec villages, murder Quebec children and Quebec women.

Furthermore, ''Canada'' has had no valid Constitution since the 1931 Act of Westminster. All Quebec referendums have been fake and not necessary since all ''Canadian'' provinces have been sovereign since then.

Read Ho Canada by R. Rogers Smith.
https://www.themythiscanada.com/pdfs/RRSmith/Ho_Canada-1965.pdf

Read the Walter Kuhl Letter to Rene Levesque:
https://www.themythiscanada.com/pdf/kuhl.pdf

Rene Levesque worked as a propagandist for CBC in the 1950s, and also was a member of the U.S. Forces during WW2 where he stated that he saw ''Antisemitism everywhere''. Jacques Parizeau studied in England.

In 1832, Louis Joseph Papineau emancipated jews in Quebec and did that 25 years ahead of the UK.

All these traitors should hang. Spread the news.

>All Quebec referendums have been fake and not necessary since all ''Canadian'' provinces have been sovereign since then.
Reminder: This also applies to Alberta.
All that needs to be done is write a new Constitution for each ALREADY sovereign province and form a De Jure government.

Why do you think most politicians are lawyers? They know this and are lying to you.

This is the Truth, you are in denial if you don't believe it.

/pol/ is always right and always ahead of the game.

RIP Doug Force:
https://www.themythiscanada.com/

The Quebequois wanted to leave Canaduh since the British conquered them, because the Brits are assholes.
My great grandparents all fled Canaduh back in the 19th century.
The one time I visited Canaduh, fucking Brits insulted me as soon as they saw my name on my credit card (it's French, a dit name). I was astonished at this bad behavior, and suddenly I understood why my great grandfathers (all were quebecquois... going back to the founding of Quebec) left.
I applied to immigrate to Quebec, and they're totally cucked... they want Chink millionaires and not their own blood.
Fuck Canaduh. Canaduh is dead to me.

>>521090425 (OP)
>What would they gain in leaving our beautiful country?
''Canada'' does not actually exist since the ''Canadian'' Constitution is invalid and fake. Mackenzie King signed FORGED Letters Patent in 1947. ''Canada'' is a de facto rogue nation.

>>521091078
Are you a cajun?

>>521091146
>>521090962
>>521091003
>t. James from Ontario Oblast

>>521090854
Bro, alberta shares a border with the USA, they are not land locked. You know damn well the moment alberta leaves, sask is going right along with it.

>>521091179
No.

It's funny to see the indépendantistes losing their shit in Quebec because they realize that the massive influx of jeets is threatening their identity + power (jeets don't vote for indépendantistes cauz they don't speak french)
Quebec used to weight 25% of Canada population in the 70s, now it's 19% and decreasing. As everywhere, the (french) whites got rich and stopped reproducing + became woke so can't say no to the mass influx of jeets.

>>521091078
100% French here going way back even to Cartier in 1535. Born and raised in Vancouver. Dude, the Anglo jew and his shabbos goyim in Vancouver are scum. The hate I've gotten for my name is off the charts. But that's OK. I sold my place and moved to small town Quebec 8 years ago. Night and day. The limeys don't just hate the French though...they hate each other. BC is a mean spirited dump full of drug addict anti intellectual morons. But that's fine with me. They're suffering in double hell now between the masses of turban scum and the native land claim rulings by the Supreme Court. They live for real estate and glory in their unearned wealth. Well guess what? Your housing values have just crashed. Your only hope is that if the chugs get all of Richmond the fucking Chink heroin smugglers who own Ditchmond will exterminate the chugs. Don't laugh...it's possible.

>>521090425 (OP)

Fuck Carney. I vote to separate. Im also schizophrenic AMA?

>>521090854
Alberta separatism has been an issue since at least the 1930s

>>521091599
Vancouver is full of jeets.
In 8 years I've only seen 2 standing by their broken down Saturn by the side of the northbound Autoroute 15 last summer. I'm living in 1968 here. Costco is 98-99% white and they're all rasiing young families. It's wonderfu.

>>521091365
>alberta shares a border with the USA, they are not land locked.
Smartest Albertan
>>521091738
You mean it was once an issue in the 1930s, based on completely different reasoning. The one now is 100% a CIA-GRU influenced movement that originated online

>>521092067
You are going to look dumb as fuck when the prairie provinces abandon your ass and your fuel prices triple. Stay in Toronto uppity bitch LOL

>>521092266
Is there a an existing oil pipeline between prairies and ontario already?

>>521091676
>vote
vote harder, press on that pencil as hard as you can for change.

>>521090425 (OP)
maybe they dont want to turn into india and wanna control the pajeets that enter their territory

>>521090854
>Quebec's sovereignty goes back centuries

PSPP for the win!

>>521090962
>The McGill family was directly responsible for the hanging of the Quebec Patriots in 1838-1839. They were part of the committee that made that decision.
Why is the current leader of the Parti Quebecois a McGill and Oxford graduate?

>>521092937
>PSPP for the win!
The McGill and Oxford graduate lawyer will save you!

>>521090425 (OP)
One part is controlled by british oligarchs from London,
the other by french oligarchs from France
>Merovingians
>Carolingians
>Medicis etc.
French kings.

My guess is that there's a turmoil in Western Europe for control?

>>521092937
The referendum Trilogy is near kek
Vote harder, and don't go full FLQ. Have faith in politicians. They don't lie and work in your best interest and not the creditor on the debt (jewish bankers). Every sovereign nation in the world did it politically and never used ultraviolence.

>>521090425 (OP)
btw its insane how nice Quebec is. It is such a beautiful place, european architecture and its still majority white as nonwhites cannot pass a simple language test a toddler can learn

>>521092266
Ok keep me posted

>>521093135
No they are controlled by jews since in Quebec's case, Louis Joseph Papineau emancipated jews in 1832. He did that 25 years before London. 6 years after that, 12 (magic jewish number) Quebec patriots hanged at Pied-du-Courant in Montreal.

pic rel is why alberta wants to leave. quebec wants to leave so they can legalize gay polygamy and outlaw jobs or something

>>521093313
Jews don't control ANYTHING.
All french sides both in France, parts of Westren Europe, and Quebeck,
are controlled by the french kings.
>Merovingians
>Carolingians.
>married to italian medici on female side
Those king families are in complete control.

>>521092446
Alberta has the second largest oil reserve on the planet. Once alberta leaves and gets in bed with America, she's going to be tapped and refined like never before. None of the profits will go east. Eastern canadian politicians have sabotaged a multi trillion dollar industry for decades, and alberta is going to punish them for it. How are Quebec and Ontario going to come up with 3-4 billion dollars a year to supplement the non-existant equalisation payments? They are going to tax the fuck out of every energy form they can.

>>521093075
>he McGill and Oxford graduate lawyer will save you!

No better way to know the enemy, Les Anglais.

>>521093213
>The referendum Trilogy is near kek
>want's nothing to do with the rest of Canada

You, the rest of Canada

>>521090962
>The Molson family trained British soldiers that went on the burn Quebec villages, murder Quebec children and Quebec women.
Why were angloes like this? They did the same to Dutch in South Africa

>>521094005
None of this ever happened btw

>>521093475
>It's the Merrovingians, not the jews!
>It's the Carolingians, not the jews!
>>married to italian medici on female side
*married to jews with italian names. Nice try Chaim

>>521090962
>''Canada'' has had no valid Constitution since the 1931 Act of Westminster.
>watched interview w/ PSPP

He discussed this exact point. Had never heard of this before, compelling.

>>521094005
ask Cecil Rhodes and the Rhodes Scholarship, he funds Oxford scholarships where current PQ leader attended.

>>521090854
Quebec is a welfare state that sucks out the prosperity from the rest of canada, on their own they would be bankrupt in less than a year.

Honestly, Quebec never should have been part of Canada. A country should have one common language. You're not a country if you can't even speak to some of your "countrymen". You can be very friendly neighbours, but you're not a country.

>>521094236
you haven't heard of it because it's not true

>>521094236
>He discussed this exact point.
gee I wonder why he discussed it. Maybe someone forced him to and his jewish Masters told him to do so like the good little bitch he is. jews are MOCKING you, just like Trump does. More news at 6.

>>521093266
it is naturally beautiful, but its a cold shitscape for a big part of the year

>>521094236
jews telling you how you got fucked and how fucked you are. Wow this is new and exciting. It's like an unheard of jewish trick. They always tell you to demoralize and laugh at you. Once again, more news at 6.

McGill graduates:
Quebec PQ Leader
Juden Peterstein
Doc Mailloux

>>521094005
Not true at all, either in Quebec or South Africa

>>521091078
>my great grandfathers (all were quebecquois
That would explain the mental retardation

>>521093563
Hope it happens

>>521094139
>>521094760
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Boer_War_concentration_camps

Imagine putting white families in concentration camps. They were Dutch, wasp like you, lmao.

>>521092067
>once an issue in the 1930's.
You aren't that curling faggot I ran into a few days back are you? That guy was stupid as a stick.
https://www.cbc.ca/archives/how-some-albertans-advocated-for-separation-in-the-early-1980s-1.5081723

>>521094529
If you support the PQ and its leader, you support Juden Peterstein.

>>521094928
Alberta has been Soverign since 1931, same for all Canadian provinces. USA could have claimed ''Canada'' as its own state since then.

>>521096184
What happened in 1931?

>>521094236
>''Canada'' has had no valid Constitution since the 1931 Act of Westminster.
>watched interview w/ PSPP
He discussed this exact point. Had never heard of this before, compelling.


>Read the Walter Kuhl Letter to Rene Levesque:
>https://www.themythiscanada.com/pdf/kuhl.pdf
Read the Walter Kuhl Letter to Rene Levesque:
https://www.themythiscanada.com/pdf/kuhl.pdf

Then why is PSPP not stating the Rene Levesque was a fraud, that the PQ is a fraud and that Parizeau was a fraud? more news at 6.

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>>521093266
>nonwhites cannot pass a simple language test
Unfortunately some of the worst immigrants like Haitians do know French

>>521090425 (OP)
A better question is why doesn't BC? BC is the only one that could viable be its own country.
>Contains every geography type
>Mineral and resource rich
>Perfect natural ports on the Pacific Ocean
>Vancouver Island alone is massive
>Perfect natutal fortress surrounded by mountains, rivers and the ocean
>Could be the middleman between trade between the North Pacific and the East like Panama
>Is one of the more populated provinces with a growing industrial base
British Columbia and the Yukon should just split off and be a Trade Republic like Venice in the Middle Ages. They even have a world class capital city already in Victoria - in fact their provincial capital building was originally built to be the national one. It's already ready to go. Pic is the parliament building in Victoria BC.

>>521090954
Kinda proving his point there

>>521098616
Victoria has a few major problems. The first is that it is stuffed full of government workers. I am from Victoria and hordes of useless people boil out of the government buildings at quitting time very day. They would have to go.
The second is all the Ontario Boomer money that saturated the place starting in the 1990's. It used to be a place "for the newlywed and nearly dead" but those Boomer cunts came in and bought everything. They then destroyed what Victoria was and turned it into the Ontario shithole that you see today. Johnson Street Bridge, Memorial Arena. I go these on Street View and it's starting to look more like Hongcouver these days. You'll have to scour the population clean of almost every cunt that walks. Before I left the local gretting was 'So where are you from?".
That place is fucked.
I am not even going to get into the street skid problem.

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>>521098612
haitians are ok, whats uyr problem with voodoo niggas

>>521090425 (OP)
>quebec
actual nation state that is completely different to the rest of the country and even has a different language
>alberta
seething anglos that hate the rest of the country.

>>521101094
On my GMT we had a chick from Haiti that spoke only French. Nobody in the entire Battalion but one guy could actually talk to her. Ontario said that she was good to go though.

>>521095042
It's on wikipedia therefore it has to be real!

>>521090425 (OP)
Harper recognized Quebec as a 'district nation within Canada', and suddenly they want to leave Confederation again. When will these CONservatives learn that the only way forward is a strong, united nation. That starts with a strong middle class (and those working hard to join it) from Coast to Coast to Coast.

>>521090425 (OP)
>why does Quebec and Alberta
Shit grammar, pajeet. Maybe you should leave for your own country.

>>521090854
>Quebec can self sustain
>Alberta is doomed alone
STRIKE THAT
REVERSE IT
THANK YOU

>>521094529
>McGill graduates:
>Quebec PQ Leader
>Juden Peterstein
>Doc Mailloux

Hey rabbi, you sound worried.

>>521101509
>Harper recognized Quebec as a 'district nation within Canada', and suddenly they want to leave Confederation again. When will these CONservatives learn that the only way forward is a strong, united nation. That starts with a strong middle class (and those working hard to join it) from Coast to Coast to Coast.
Politician say things.

>>521096264
>look at you go

Such protest, such vigor
>t. a bit to much vigor

>>521098616
AB had to pay BC and SK to fix their roads because trade was being affected
That is how poor those fucks are.
There is literally a line in the road at the borders where the road quality drops

>>521101843
>the 2A american with guns that loves to shove them up his ass instead of using them. No wonder you are the whore of Babylon.
You need more vigor

>>521090425 (OP)
I'll just leave this here;
youtube.com/watch?v=d3X8vjO0D3o&t=030s

>>521090425 (OP)
FUCKIN DO IT ALREADY, BREAK THIS MOTHERFUCKER UP

>>521090854
>Delusional pepper thinking
There's zero functional difference between Alberta's successionist movement and Quebec's

>>521092841

That's a statement not a question.

>>521093447
WEXIT NOW

>>521101994
>goes right to faggotry

I await your next spicy retort once your dog unknots.

>>521090425 (OP)
Canada is a ressource colony for the global elite. its not a real country.
we had our chance with confederation but blew it by never acting on it and letting the bigger powers fuck our shit. And now were stuck with this pile of steaming garbage we call federalism.
Im sure if canada would go back to being a confederation focusing on independent provincial rights both Alberta and Quebec would play along.

>>521102305
>worse

You had a burgeoning industrial base, solid military, and nationalism. All pretty much gone with the flag change. Shit leaf, look at the plane you built!

And also this;
youtube.com/watch?v=XLVcrV23iAA

>>521090854
>noooooo, you can't just declare sovereignty like quebec does, only us french crybabies are allowed to blackmail the federal government like that
it's pretty ridiculous when quebec "sovereigntists" are against sovereignty lol

>>521102525
yea the project was cancelled and all the engineers went to the US. That's how it always goes in leafland.

>>521098612
>>521101094
>>521101355
i am sorry for your cats that are gonna be eaten, but at least its only just hatians+some other non important countries that speak french, as africans just go to France.

whats important is that indians are total mouthbreather retards who cannot learn a foreign language. Just look at all the indians in france/germany who have been living there for years and are unable to form simple sentences

>>521102882
bro they struggle with english, they all speak punjabi like mad. for some reason we allowed these guys here so gonna have to deal with it

>>521102844
>your pols caved to US mil interests

It's a shame, that was a spectacular plane. And that program would have developed even more capable planes + allied industry.

>>521090854
Quebec is run by the Mafia, if you leave we can finally stop funding it.

>>521090425 (OP)

>Why does Québec want to leave Canada?

Honneur et tradition

>>521090425 (OP)
Ottawa is ruining Canada; Alberta can stand on its own and be prosperous without them.

>>521090425 (OP)
fuck the french

>>521090587
Kek it's a hat when they lose their hair

>>521090854
they gay eastern frenchfag reveals himself. get your booster.

>>521090425 (OP)
Canada, the country that couldn't even figure out English and French relations (let alone native-white relations), invited the entire world here and expected it to go well.

>>521102251
>goes right to faggotry
Isn't that part of being American and American culture? Pushing faggotry and trannies is pure Americanism. You could have prevented this but you enjoy it. The Statue of Liberty is a tranny and same for your Tranny Tower right in front.

Imagine being Canadian and being clueless enough to even ask this. I barely know Canada exists and I can tell you why.

>>521103565
they saved you in your revolution. in fact they took inspo from you when they did their revoltuion 10 years laters

>>521090425 (OP)
>quebec
remnants of tartaria

>>521090425 (OP)
As an Albertan I would support transfer payments in exchange for Quebec recognizing Alberta's sovereignty and vice verse. We could literally collapse the entire gay country in 6 months flat.

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>>521090425 (OP)
Here's the truth. Now pay attention faggots. Canada was a confederation British colonies. The British Empire declined after WW1 and throughout the 20th century. Mostly usurped by the USA. This process left former Canada in a crisis of identity. Canadian colonues always traded North to South with Americans, providing resources and stragegic access in exchange for access to the massive American market. Therefore yhe colonies are self interested and have little desire to trade with each other. However the centralized British authority continues to act as a tax collector for the Empire despite no Empire existing. It was simply replaced by Quebec who used politics to strengthen their position within confederation as the main purveyor of power.
Now let's discuss Alberta. Alberta was never a colony. Alberta was a sparsely populated territory with great resource potential. Therefore Alberta is very young. The Camadians (and Americans) who came here to extract those resources remained and built a Province. A Province that still provides for the Empire (Quebec) but no longer needs the Empire for anything as the Empire doesn't even have a functioning military and a barely functioning law enforcement arm. Therefore Alberta no longer needs to remain in the Empire and feels itself perfectly capable of managing it's own affairs.
There is another issue. Canada has an Indian problem (feather) because for much of Canada there is no treaty with the Indians who have held on and are now using courts to show they own the land. Guess who does have a treaty. That's right, Alberta does ans Alberta owns all the crown land outside national parks and all the oil and gas and minerals. Oh yeah Ottawa doesn't have a treaty LOOOOL

>>521092067
>the border with America is land retard
Anerica enjoys massive port access on 3 coasts and free trade within the union you stupid central Canadian dipshit

>>521090954
whiter than you nigger
soon more sovereign than you

>>521090854
Man je suis probablement dix fois plus plus de souche que toi mon osti pis c'que tu dis est attarde longtemps.
Canada was built on an oppressive and exploitative structure, sucking riches from the periphery (Not Toronto/Ottawa) to the center (Toronto). The reason why the Laurentian Elite meme strikes so true is that the rich cunts from Toronto/Ottawa all had summer homes in Montreal, Westmount already a century and a half ago. In any case, belittling the Albertan movement is completely fucking dumb and beyond stupid, the objective is to destroy Canada as it was founded, it cannot be done by a single Province alone. Albertans who shit on the Quebec Independence movement are as retarded as you are, since they don't realize they are going against an enemy that has a century of practice and perfect record up to date. If they don't study our history, they will fucking fail. If we don't support them, we will fucking fail.
The ones that win from the shit you are doing are the Carneys, Amy Assads and endless Jeet hordes of this world.

>>521108552
Its quebec aligned politicians flooding anglos with immigrants. You think we want them you stupid fucking French monkey? You're the enemy. Fuck your whore province we hate you

>>521108648
>Its quebec aligned politicians flooding anglos with immigrants.
> Who are the Irish
> What was the potatoe famine
> What is the oldest of British tradition
"Whoa Jimmy, going hard tonight, are we?"
100% you are a Slav or germanoid-descended 2nd generation.

>>521090425 (OP)
So effin' do it. Especially Alberta. We'll take you. All you need is 50% vote to secede from Mark Carney. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>521108793
Gay copes if I ever heard them. Ireland is British you stupid fucking canadian fagtard. When we leave you can try invading if you want. Expect resistance.

>>521093447
>Alberta is so rich
>Source (((Frazer institute)))

I hope you are enjoying the cultural enrichment, this one is priceless.

>>521108794
We're gonna. All the copers don't believe it because they think its still the 1970s and they're still liv8ng off American tax dollars but that day is over. Fuck Canada. Canadians are history's most self deluded npcs

>why?

Vive le Québec libre, that's why.

>>521109065
Wow you guys are incredible the way you buy your own bullshit

>>521109152
Then do it and stop whining and taking gibs like a nigger

>>521109137
Man I'm getting impatient. I am seeing youtube videos saying they're gonna do it, just 2 more weeks ...
That would be so cool. And bring Yukon with you, and then we could almost drive from the lower 48 to Alaska without entering Canada.

>>521108648
>We hate you
We don't think about you at all

>>521109286
Did you know that YOU built the Alaska hiway from Dawson Creek to Amchorage or whatever. The American army and American engineers built the hiway for Canadians that Canadians couldn't lmao
And in like a year

>>521090425 (OP)
Quebec is still buttmad about James Wolfe and Alberta is tired of getting fucked over by Eastern Canada. The globalist regime is piledriving this post-national economic zone into the dirt at terminal velocity, so Alberta is better off as their own country.

>>521109258
>Le gibs

Just a little bit more, mr white Canadian, just think how filthy rich you gonna be when we separate! Kek

>>521109353
Good fuck off then you don't need us

>>521109446
Ok useless nigger

>>521103432
Dont forget Sask, all my homies love Sask.

>>521108959
>Gay copes if I ever heard them. Ireland is British you stupid fucking canadian fagtard. When we leave you can try invading if you want. Expect resistance.
First of all, flooding Lower Canada with immigrants was literally the fucking policy set out in the Elgin Report you stupid piece of shit. Its how we got to keep our language and religion, because the plan got leaked, and the Church didn't take kindly to the "of the wrong Religion" part. You still did it. You literally celebrated the first Jew ever allowed in the Province.
And no, no fucking Britton from 1850 thought Irishmen were Brits, they were Crown subjects, its not the same fucking thing.
>>521108959
>When we leave you can try invading if you want. Expect resistance.
What? Holy shit you are fucking dumb.

>>521090425 (OP)
canada is an indian-filled globoshlomo slave state. the provinces that want to leave are the provinces that remain overwhelmingly White and have no intention of becoming flooded with and infested by these brown indian slaves. they want the authority to protect their own borders and police their own immigration policy, aka fight against the flood of shit at their borders that the rest of the nation simply allowed to wash over it.

>>521106597
Can't you vote 50% and get your sovereignty without any payments?

>>521090425 (OP)
Canada has never been a serious country and now it’s just the worst of clown world.

>>521109602
Lol.
British constitutional law, the one the Canadian constitution is based on, specifically doesn't recognize the transition of debts from one iteration of state to another.
Ironically enough, the French one does, but whomp whomp.

>>521090854
western alienation is a real issue buddy. Im in faggot ass BC but this confederation is fuckin bullshit. A newfoundland lobsterman has like 3x the voting power as I do. I am in BC and would love to secede independence. canada is just a huge fucken scam run by laurentian elite cocksuckers. hate all of them, fuck ontario, fuck the maritimes. quebec i actually respect cause my first lay/gf was a francophone and theyre the least faggot of all canadians

>>521108552
good post. albertan and quebec sovereigntists need to strike an alliance. confederation must be destroyed. this fuckin country is a huge scam.

>Quebec
French speakers, separate language and history
>Alberta
they want to become a rich petrostate instead of sharing their oil with the rest of Canada

>>521107783
I'm pretty sure that Quebec settled all it's treaties with their indians so that they could go through wiht the huge James Bay power projects. Also going back to the very beginning, the Jesuits made sure that all land for farming purchased from the indians was made at fair European market prices with access to manufactured goods the Indians craved; muskets gunpowder kettles pans knives and axes etc. The deeds for all the farm land along the St Lawrence are still in existence in museums.

>>521110234
We were in good terms with most indians tribes. Now a days you just sign a cheque and call it a day.

>>521108648
Actually all the immigrants to British owned white countries seem to come from their former colonies and same with the French.

French colonies were Indochina, and Algeria Haiti etc
British Colonies were Jamaica and India and Pakistan
Dutch Colonies were from Indonesia, Moluccans.

So there's no Sikhs in Quebec. Sikhs were the mercenary thugs of the British Empire and they dumped them in Fiji to prevent them from separating from the empire. If BC and Onterrible are packed with those shit eating rape rats it's solely the legacy of the British Empire and nothing else.

>>521110223
>they want to become a rich petrostate instead of sharing their oil with the rest of Canada

Resources are provincial matter exclusively

Worth noting that before the lockdowns Legault was negotiating with Alberta to stop the transfer payments in exchange for Alberta recognizing Quebec sovereignty. Lately there's been communications to reopen this line of thinking between the provinces.

>>521109570
>tldr
Yeah ok you deluded faggot. The auto sector in Ontario is dead that means buh bye central Canada

>>521110234
Yeah Quebec is its own country and nothing to do with anglo Canada. In fact Quebec is the enemy.

>>521110497
White anglo Canadians were rejecting nonwhites up until Quebec subversion in the 1960s

>>521110820
When Quebec was defeated the British wanted to kick all the French out of Quebec and then fill it up with British immigrants. One small glitch in that plan; Brits didn't want to live in a place with 10 ft of snow stacked up in front of your house for 7 months of the year. So they were stuck with the French and forced to come to a deal with them. The Quebec Act of 1774

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Act

I talk to people back in BC about what a great deal it is here and nope nope nope nobody wants 10 ft of snow in their front yard for 7 months a year.

>>521110820
>>521110876
Mystery meat alert

Canada is dead it died in ww2 with the British Empire. Buh bye Canada.

>>521110223
why the fuck should they share their oil with ontarian cocksucksers when the literal structure of our government/elections gives them and us BCers less power than maritime/ontario/quebec. NO TAXATION WITHOUT ADEQUATE REPRESENTATION

>>521110234
We did. One chief tried to start a partitionism movement claiming 30% of the Province's territory in the early 2000s, got shut down faster than light because of it.
>>521109978
That's the thing with the gibs argument. It sucks to be on the receiving end. Not one single Quebec politician ever went to the pulpit with the line "and if you elect me, we'll go and get even more prorogation payments out of Alberta!". As an individual we never see a fucking cent of it, at least until we have to be put in hospice or something... I'm old enough to remember how bleak the economy in the Prairie was in the late 80s early 90s (I lived in Red Deer for a long part of my life)... I guess what I'm saying awkwardly is that Canada works as is because everything puts the Provinces in competition with one another, so Toronto/Ottawa can keep switching its scheme every generation or so... Right now Alberta is paying, a century and a half ago Quebec was paying, in 10 years everyone who isn't in a fucking walled community with guards will be paying, unless we fucking wake up and stop slinging meaningless shit at each other. Whatever way anyone goes that constructively act toward the destruction of Canada, that is good, and that person has my thanks.

>>521110876
>White anglo Canadians were rejecting nonwhites
I guess that's why chinatown were popping up in every English city well before the 1900s... holy fucking shit you are dumb.

>>521110876
>White anglo Canadians were rejecting nonwhites up until Quebec subversion in the 1960s
I lived in the sixties. The first niggers were starting to appear and the place was already swarming with Chinamen. Another place the British Empire resided. Vancouver was crawling with Cantonese dialect Hong Kongers..
And there were already lots of Sikhs too. It was never a thing that was left open to debate or choice by the Canadian people. It was something that was just done.

>>521111020
>When Quebec was defeated the British wanted to kick all the French out of Quebec and then fill it up with British immigrants.
Not really, the brits didn't have the means to kick all of us out (even if were weren't THAT many). The Elgin report's conclusion was that French-Canadians could be turned into proper brits within a generation or so if the language and laws were replaced, and if there was a steady supply of English settlers added in. I don't think, or at least I don't remember that kicking us out was ever considered.

>>521108552
>>521108648
ITT: retarded leafs arguing over who's getting less fucked by peak globohomo aka the commonwealth

The comedy will really begin if the Supreme Court of Canada gives Richmond to the chugs thus collapsing the price of RE there to $0.00. The Chinese gangs that control the heroin trade have invested heavily in Richmond.

It's going to be interesting to see how the evil gooks deal with that. kek
They might very well just bypass the drunken chugs and go straight to the people that created their problem.

>>521111543
>aka the commonwealth
Aka the City of London Corporation.
Learn your history.

>>521107783
>much of Canada there is no treaty with the Indians
Not Alberta and Saskatchewan

>>521111661
You've been owned by Jews for 400 years as have all anglophones. Never had a chance and your little city of London had nothing to do with it. Learn your history.

>>521111934
Well there are the 4 inns of court whose members are the secret shareholders of the Bank of England.

>>521111934
This.

Reposting this from above:
Louis Joseph Papineau emancipated jews in Quebec in 1832 (25 years before London emancipated jews), then came the Rebellion of Quebec Patriots where 12 (magic jewish number, what a cohencidence) got hanged by jews. All Quebec folk ''heroes'' are actually the peakest of traitors.

>>521111934
> The Jew meme
The City of London Corporation was founded in the early 10th Century, dumbfuck, and its not a city (well, not just).

>>521112188
The jews are up in Saint Adele and Piedmont.

>>521090854
>Alberta's """"independence movement"""
>dumb rednecks
>putin/trump propaganda
>could never function as an autonomous country

Alberta wants to leave because they generate all the money that props up the rest of the country with its oil, it's forced to send that money to Ottawa, and the politicians go and say how evil Alberta is with all their oil production and contributing to climate change.

>>521112341
the jews are in the West Island, might as well be rename Jew Island

>>521112194
There were no corporations in the 10th century anon, stop talking nonsense. If you are talking about chartered privileges issued by kings to burghers and townsmen, these were common to many western European towns from the 11th century onward and have nothing to do with the conversation at hand.

Leonard Cohen mural in Montreal. I dare anyone to paint it red

>>521091819
which part of quebec?

>>521112796
Probably closer to Quebec City.
Montreal and the surroundings unfortunately aren't that lucky. Its still completely different from Toronto, but probably won't remain so for that long. I need to decide between going back to Quebec City or Red Deer.

>>521112796
I said; Northbound Autoroute 15, north of Laval. I think they were on their way out of province.

>>521112905
when I fled Vancouver Red Deer was my alternative to Quebec. I think there's a lot of very well educated and business savvy German Canadians there. They're a well dressed good looking bunch of people. They fled BC overnight when the NDP defeated WAC Bennett in 1972. I was at UBC and overnight the campus went from all these beautiful well dressed and very flirtatious girls to being a depressing dump full of ugly jewesses and chinks.

>>521091599
Jeets don't really want to come to Quebec because we barely accommodate anglophones as it is, unless its a fucking UQAM student a French-Can can't hide his disgust when speaking to jeets. I think its the same for anglos but the jeet accent is literally just speaking like a dumbfuck congested with 2 week's worth of phlegm in the back of your throat, its fucking repulsive.
Quebec is the white holdout in Canada. Not that it matters that much, you fucks want to make me believe a Slav is the same as me because its visually on the paler end of the skin color spectrum.... fuck that.

>>521113213

It's very sad...

>>521113213
Half of the white "Quebecois" are anglo original lol

>>521090425 (OP)
I've been to Quebec and Toronto and culturally speaking they are completely different, even more so then comparing a super far lefty from California to an alt-right Texan. They really do feel like 2 entirely different countries

It's true that Pierre Trudeau was a traitorous evil shit but he was a traitorous evil shit to Quebecers too. No suprise since is was the traitorous evil shit Lester Pearson that manoeuvred him into the PM seat as his successor.

>>521112917
I lived in Mile End for a year. Hasidic jews are by far the worst possible neighbors one could have.

>>521109580
Alberta is full of towelheads. The french import full blown niggers. Canadian boomers sold everything off to rebel.against their parents that died thirty years ago. One final "fuck you dad" as they leave canada as the corpse of a bedouin colony

>>521113450
In this day and age any group that has huge families of 10 or more kids is invariably a fucking welfare scam.

>>521113300
>Half of the white "Quebecois" are anglo original lol
I mean, at this point yes, bloodlines are pretty fucking mixed. I have 1/16 brit blood and some small percentage of redskin, like just about everyone here. But the French-Cans had one of the biggest sustained population burst in history. we were 14k at the conquest. And, on the other hand there's also about 7 million more French-Can descendants in the US as well, in total we are about ~16 millions.

>>521112994
i have english speaking family from that triangle between the ontario border, the st lawrence river, and the ottawa river

>>521090425 (OP)
Alberta is tired of being Quebec's paypiggy.
Quebec is retarded and doesn't understand they'd collapse without being able to steal from Alberta.

>>521113729
even the french is in large part breton, which is actually indigenous british lol

>>521108552

The Maritimes was the richest part of the country before confederation. On confederation all the banks there just packed up and moved ot Montreal under the scots and Toronto. They took the savings of maritimers with them and invested it elsewhere so that the maritimes became the poorest part of hte country.

Isn't it funny to you all that in the USA their maritime states of the NE are some of the richest in the USA while in Canada they're the poorest?

>>521113446
The powers that be have learned since Laurier that putting a stooge with a french last name is a good way to reach across and guarantee an election.
And Trudeau was about as Quebecois as a jeet is white. He lived outside of the Province, Ottawa and the Maritimes, until moving to Sherbrooke at ~14, and said he didn't get along well with other French-Cans.
What's the fucking point anyway? Do you need to be reminded of Chretien? Trudeau father? The Fed is evil. Politicians attracted to Federal positions are, by logical extension, evil as well. Doesn't matter if he's Franco, Anglo, Jeet or whatever, if a politician doesn't honestly run for a Federal position on the program of destroying Canada, he is evil.

>>521114054
sure, in 400 AD kek. They're from Cornwall in the far west country.

>>521114116
yeah and Justin is a West Vancouver boi even if he attended a prep school in Quebec.

>>521109404
Ah yes in the years after WW2 we were the best at building things. Now we need the Taiwanese (chips) and S. Koreans (shipbuilding) to show us how to do it again. Fortunately Trump has the clout to "persuade" those countries to share technology with us.

>>521111020
But are Ontario, NS, Labrador etc. any better? The British presumably hadn't set foot in present BC yet so that's not the comparison.

Those look like well insulated roofs and low maintenance lawns in picrel.

>>521114116
Pierre Trudeau, Quebecois nationalist

>>521111687
Maybe the US doesn't want Yukon after all. We wouldn't make transfer payments like that, let Canada continue to worry about the place.
I presume those massive transfers to the North are for the First Nations people's gibs?

>>521112415
It can declare independence, then the US can admit it as a state.

>>521098616
I lived in Vic in the early 2000s it is one of my favorite places in North America. I try to imagine it didn’t get fucked as hard as Vancouver.

>>521113277
This is misleading and completely elucidates how Quebec is favored in Ottawa. We don't want the browning you stupid fuck. We never did. It was forced on us by Quebec aligned politicians.
>but but muh Harper
Harper has to suck Quebec's dick too retard. It's how laurentide politics work. It is in fact anglos who are suffering under an oppressive colonizer, not the other way around. WE HATE YOU. YOU ARE NOT CANADIAN. YOU ARE NOT OUR COMPATRIOTS. In fact if the US Marines invaded tomorrow, we'd stand by and let them have you.

>>521108011
>Albertan """independence""" is actually about being annexed by the US
Did you mean to admit that, or are you that much of a dullard?

>>521115969
The pic is misleading. The territories are not the same as the provinces and have a separate equalization system. The pic is obviously per capita and almost no one lives in the territories. The other thing is provinces have a right to their resources and so also the tax on those resources. Territories do not and so all the tax goes directly to the federal government and then that is partially paid back to them through territorial formula financing which is what picrel is citing for the territories.

>>521118056
This is what the pic is trying to hide

>>521090425 (OP)
Probably because Justin Treadu flooding Canada with fucking Jeet shitters and they don't want their area's flooded with fucking bobble head nig nogs

>>521115969
Why would you want any part of Canada? Alberta is about as conservative as Massachusetts to give you an idea of where Canadian "conservatives" sit. I have no idea why people compare them to Texans, not even close.

>>521118396
>Probably because Justin Treadu flooding Canada with fucking Jeet shitter
You meant Chabad and Jewish NGOs like HIAS?

>>521118396
>Justin Treadu flooding Canada with fucking Jeet
You meant Chabad Lubavitch, right?

>>521118396
>Probably because Justin Treadu flooding Canada with fucking Jeet shitters and they don't want their area's flooded with fucking bobble head nig nogs
Hi Pierre!

>>521119363
You guys are plenty liberal enough on your own. Canadians don't need any Jews to embrace mass immigration, you would do it to spite American "racists".

>>521090425 (OP)
Quebec: distinct nation sick of English occupation
Alberta: pays for the nation, gets no representation in parliament

I hate eastern Canadians so much

>>521092067
He’s not factually correct when he says “Alberta isn’t landlocked”, but he is spiritually correct in the sense that it means nothing. The guy you’re responding to pointed out that if Alberta left, it would quickly be followed by the rest of the West and gain sea access.
>The one now is 100% a CIA-GRU influenced movement that originated online
That’s simply not true.

>>521090854
Alberta has to pay for the useless mouths like this guy, and for what?

>>521090425 (OP)
What do WEXITbros think of my map? Is it horrible, great, or decent but with need for changes?

>>521091599
>Quebec used to weight 25% of Canada population in the 70s, now it's 19% and decreasing. As everywhere, the (french) whites got rich and stopped reproducing + became woke so can't say no to the mass influx of jeets.
Jewish NGOs and Chabad did that.

Here is Pierre Bourgault of the RIN on this topic in 1965. He stated that Quebec should join USA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cnfbzKLvR0

>>521119433
>You guys are plenty liberal enough on your own. Canadians don't need any Jews to embrace mass immigration, you would do it to spite American "racists".
Thank the jewish television for that. jewish propaganda

anglocanacucks vs quebecucks who win?

>>521090854
>Quebec sovereignty goes back centuries
Even if they did get independence, they'd only fuck it up with socialism.

>>521108552
Tout est dans ce vidéo mon ami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRMUob9gSg
Écoute attentivement. Salut Pierre!

>>521090854
Alberta makes all your oil. Without them Cucknada is fucked.

>>521120833
We can buy oil from a lot of places. It's more like Alberta is fucked without Canada building their pipelines and buying their oil.

>>521120146
>anglocanacucks vs quebecucks who win?


gooks, shitrags and jews.

are there jeets in quebec? I dread at listening to a jeet/quebec accent hybrid

>>521090425 (OP)
This thread is right up my alley. Too bad I wasn't here for the start of it. Everything I'd say has pretty much already been said.

>>521090962
While technically probably true, it doesn't matter. The government of Canada is the government, and is internationally recognized by all other countries. That makes it legitimate in the eyes of nations. Even in the event we just said, "nah, fuck you guys" and declared unilateral independence, it wouldn't matter in the slightest without international (especially USA) recognition.

>>521090425 (OP)
Why do Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have separatist movements?
Because Jewish divide and rule works.
They will never actually leave, their movements are just designed to keep the people divided rather than uniting against the corrupt political class.

>>521119692
Political considerations aside, the colour scheme is horrendous. Use solid colors dissimilar to adjacent regions.

>>521122022
You fail to understand the political dynamics of the failed dystopia known as Canada. We cloned your unitary state constitutional democracy model. Your model works because Britain is a small island of communities in close proximity. The needs of one region are often the needs of the whole. Canada is over 5000km wide and half the population lives along the Toronto-Montreal corridor. The rest are spread out over the vast other regions in the east and west.

Federal ridings are based on population and as a result a majority of the ridings are in the Toronto-Montreal corridor. In a nutshell, a majority government can be formed by a party by winning enough seats in said corridor. This means all the ridings in Western Canada do not matter. Both political parties (Conservatives & Liberals) focus their energy in ridings in Ontario & Quebec. Canada is covered by a few time zones so when on election night when the votes come in from the Toronto-Montreal corridor, the western ridings have not even counted their votes yet but it doesn't matter, because the dominant party has already been decided.

>>521122022
>>521122705
Furthermore having a powerful central state like Canada is terrible for handling regional problems. There are so many regions in Canada with their own unique challenges, it's virtually impossible for the central state in Ottawa to adequately address them. This had led to huge inefficiencies, waste, and neglected regions.

The founders of this country made sure their elite famliies and friends in Toronto-Ottawa-Montreal controlled the nation, and all Provinces are merely semi-autonomous bodies subservient to the all-powerful central State.

tl;dr
Canadian federalism is a fucking terrible system for a country the size of Canada and the elite families that control it don't care. They'll never give up power and both parties are self-serving and corrupt in the service of this power.

The best thing Alberta/Quebec could do would be to separate. Nothing else short of actual war will break the stranglehold. Unfortunately the people leading the independence movement in Alberta are subpar. I don't really see it succeeding. Independence supporters don't really want to do the work. They'd rather like a bunch of twitter posts on X than actually take any action that could inconvenience them for even 10 minutes.

>>521090425 (OP)
>quebec
The french are niggers
>Alberta
They're sick of being forced to pay for quebec to be a bunch of niggers.

>>521122999
>The french are niggers

whiter than thou nigel.

funny that people believe that quebecers are french LOL

>>521105028
>t.all he thinks about is gay men and trannies
That's an interesting projection tactic.

Some people get tired of global homo and want to be free of it. How is that even surprising? Quebec longs for the old days of French rule and Alberta pays more than they receive. Who wouldn't get tired of having to listen to blowhards like Trudeau and Carney in Ottawa?

>>521122533
Okay, but what do you think about the actual borders? Here’s an improved map

>>521123136
sure thing, ngubu

>>521123287
you can't really escape globo-homo

we'll live in either globo-schlomo or globo-momo (islam)

>>521090425 (OP)
alberta wants to get their oil to global markets, canada wants to go green. quebec is french living in an anglos world.

>>521123858
Actually you can. It just takes a determination that few have in these days. Laugh at their suggestions and just live how you want to.

>>521108552
>Westmount
>Laurentian Elite
I think you mean jewish elite

What happens to Newfoundland if Quebec secedes?
Will they join Quebec?

>>521125871
It would depend on Quebec's stance on fishing laws

>>521122705
Canada is a big country, but like Australia, there's hardly anybody there because the majority of the land is either undeveloped or uninhabitable.
The new "Canadians" won't build anything, they never built anything in their own countries and are just there to help drain the Canadians of their wealth and vote for more of the same.