Thread 521130528

Why are Ukrainians so bad at warfare?

Kek

>surrender
How about slaughtering every single pigger. I pay taxes for bombs, not prison camps.

>>521130636
You pay what they tell you to pay boy

>>521130636
You pay taxes for whatever your feudal master wants to waste them on, and you don't get to choose. Same deal as us but even shitter.

>>521130669
The funniest thing is that if you don't zoom 1000x on a 20k city, the map looks pretty much the same as back then.

>>521130669
>pole too stupid to understand attritional warfare
no wonder your country's whole history is just getting tag team raped by germany and russia

>>521130726
pretty funny coming from united kingdom

>>521130762
>world's (apparently) 2nd military power getting into attritional warfare with it's infinitely weaker neighbor
>somehow makes it better and not totally pathetic

>>521130528 (OP)
They are forced to fight for israel. Its a slave army. They have no morale.

>>521130636
You need to sign a contract. And then you get all the slaughter as you want.

>>521130528 (OP)
Slavs in general are on par with sub Saharan Africans when it comes to waging war

>>521130636
Dont be too harsh on them. Most of them didnt chose this.

>>521130870
>2nd military power getting into attritional warfare with it's infinitely weaker neighbor

Ukraine had a population of 40+ million pre-war and the largest land size nation in Europe before the War, they are also getting trillions of $$ worth of equipment and Mercenaries, are you pretending to be stupid Bogzor Sczszcazny

>>521130870
disingenuous pole, not very surprising. why are you pretending that Ivan is not fighting a proxy of nato I see the ukrainian soldiers walking around town I hear them training tanks on the ranges

NATO training, its the military equivalent of Indian programming

>>521130528 (OP)
Jews

>>521131027
Also they inherited some of the world's largest tank factories which they retooled to manufacture drones.

>>521130636
TT

>>521130636
Based

>>521131073
>NATO training, its the military equivalent of Indian programming

NATO actually designed military strats in Ukraine based on assumptions that Russians would flee at the sight of tanks or some other bullshit, Kursk offensive is typical NATO strategy designed by females and homosexuals that do not live in reality

>>521131027
>they are also getting trillions of $$ worth of equipment and Mercenaries
They got 7% of NATO's total ANNUAL spending.

>>521131027
>largest land size
russian brain on full display

>>521130870
Not really the entire Southern Donbass has basically fallen and they've entered the Dnipro Oblast as a result

>>521131255
How much is it on that map? 1 cm?

>>521131247
>russian brain on full display

You Polak's are the worst posters here, butt-hurt belter is being kind to you faggots. You make the stupidest threads on 4chan every day while screaming anyone who doesn't like you stupid worthless Polaks as being Russian, dumb ass nigger. Here is a hint Polak, nobody likes any slavs, you are the niggers of white people

>>521131109
this is bullshit.
There is not a single brushless motor factory in Ukraine. They buy all the parts from China via EU because the US put a ban on Ukraine buying drones from China (it was making NATO state-of-the-art weaponry look obsolete).
If anything, they just inject the bodies and solder the boards to the motors.

this is now a russian chest thumping thread

>>521130636
i thought you wanted to liberate your east Ukrainian brothers who are actually Russians, not kill them

>>521131441
Wow, I really made you seethe.

>>521131462
>>521131484
>>521131511
>>521131535

Day 10,000 of the 48 hour ATO

>>521130528 (OP)
I just can't wait to see your fat Aussie ass being dragged from the warmth of your clockspiders infested home into Ukrainian dirt to die for the Jew while pajeets are raping your mom and your highschool crush to death. Ain't that gonna be a hoot?

>>521130528 (OP)
Because they're Russians in denial and Russians are total loser trash ever since their Jew empire collapsed in the 90s.

>>521131554
You're making it look worse for yourself.

>>521130636
dont worry, you will get your chance to kill europeans, your csar always needs new meat. if you cant go, perhaps your sons will do :)

>year 12 of two weeks operation to remove donbass terrorists
Kek

>>521130528 (OP)
years of inbreeding

>>521130528 (OP)
Because they are Russians with an accent.

>>521130528 (OP)
Didnt you guys loose to Emus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

oops, did I kill the thread? haha

>>521130636
You deserve misery and in all likelihood will be afflicted by it and later deny you ever supported this retarded war.
You're a pest.

>>521130870
why are you pretending that ukraine hasn't received billions in aid, had 8 years to prepare possibly one of the largest networks of trenches and fortifications in the world, received among and training from US and it's allies, and let's not forget all that free heavy equipment like Leo's, abraps, brapleys, and even polish krabs, plus all that ammunition too, and let's not forget awacs, AD, satellite and targeting data. holy fucking shit poles are not only stupid as niggers but they lie like pajeets

>>521131219
Funniest shit ever
>our tactics are to march with our heavy 50 million shekels wunderwaffle tanks and russia will just surrender at the sight out of gee dee pee
>russia just hit the tank columns with artillery and drones until the area looked like a junkyard or just waited for them to fall into the mines
Lol lmao
Kek even

>>521130528 (OP)
I think that's the one thing you cannot accuse them of.
They are retarded as fuck, corrupt as shit, and so on, but they held out amazingly long against a foe that is superior to them in almost every regard that matters when it comes to warfare.
Calling them bad at warfare is not really a fair assassment.
They were very fucking retarded for picking this fight though.

>>521132615
Ukraine got (in total) 7% of ANNUAL NATO military spending. And 80% of it is old equipment that would have to be scrapped anyway.

>>521130528 (OP)
They made good Antarctic vehicles though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6R-h06IsJw

>>521130870
>with it's infinitely weaker

>>521133215
>Ukraine was actually stronger, Russia was very courageous attacking it
keep going plz

>>521130870
>all the replies
kek, the great vatnigger squirming over their own retarded logic never ceases to amuse. This and getting mad at their own lies

>>521133257
Are you retarded or just baiting on purpose?
>Largest army in Europe vs the second largest army in Europe
>Same tech
Why would one steamroll the other?

>>521130528 (OP)
Actually they have given quite an impressive account of themselves as soldiers, a shame really when you think about it since the war was completely avoidable and only happened because we have so many globohomo lunatics and schizophrenic jews in control of western countries

>>521133383
>Russia is European!
No.
Russia was about 20 ranks higher than Ukraine in global military rankings.
Its a cute attempt of you to praise Russia by calling it weak (based retard), but you still have to go back.

>>521133436
Thankfully it can very quickly end. All it takes is for the mongloid orks to go back to their shitholes.

>>521133011
that's still hundreds of billions of dollars you fucking idiot. additionally brapleys, abraps, himars, m777, mbraps, and leo 2's are hardly 'old vehicles about to be scrapped' you also failed to address the issues of 8 years of fortifications, satellite and targeting data, training from the west, etc etc etc. you really are the white niggers of europe

>>521133644
Checked, shitty nafo meme, those people have turned more people against Ukraine than any russian propaganda ever could, you people are as insufferable online as indians

Lyman status?

>>521133257
>doesn't understand infinity
you are a fucking nigger
>>521133594
20 ranks according to whom? who makes these lists, where do they get their money, use your fucking brain you idiot nigger. russia is european, europe ends at the urals you idiot cunt
>>521133644
why should they? they're winning. unless you want to go join
https://www.ildu.com.ua/
lucky for you they still take untrained trench meat

>>521133829
>common sense and simple logic turned people against Ukraine
olympic tier mental gymnastics

>>521133762
>brapleys
about 300
>abraps
31
>leo 2s
~170
>the frontiline is over 2000 km

>>521133762
>issues of 8 years of fortifications
B-b-but we were supposed to take kyiv in 3 days

>>521134001
You wouldn't get it even if I explained it to you because you are one of the nafo apes, you are too far gone with propaganda, its going to take years for you to come out of that, its impossible to have a logical fact based conversation with nafo apes because all you do is repeat the same fucking slogans like a bot

>>521133965
I wasnt even talking to you, why are you so upset?
>europe ends at the urals you idiot cunt
Europa ends at the Dnepr river. Why would some Australian cunt be interested in European affairs?
>Russia was actually supa weak, calling them strong is western propaganda
lol, keep going

>>521131776
See, this doesn't work because Ukraine didn't spend the last gorillion years thumping its chest. Second army of the world vs poorest country in Europe

>>521134374
>See, this doesn't work because Ukraine didn't spend the last gorillion years thumping its chest

>>521130528 (OP)
This is like the 4th "russia's gonna win guiz" thread I've seen in an hour...

What blew up today?

>>521130636
The ruskie army needs some fresh bussy.

>>521130528 (OP)
>Why are ukrainians so bad at warfare?

"nato training"
and
"nato tactics"

ukraine was dumb enough to be used as expendable cannon fodder by grudge holding jews in the uk in order to provoke a regime change in Russia.
It failed completely and now ukraine will be thrown in the trash like a used condom.
To think Putler wanted to cuck out in 2022,
but Boris Johnson and rest of ZOG crew stepped in and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
(Comedy gold)
Now Russia will achieve total victory, ukraine willl uniliterally and unconditionally surrender
there isnt going to be a "ceasefire" so london can catch its breath
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on Russias border

the ukraine will become an 'un-marked grave' to the liberal world order
forgotten and buried, like the hundreds of thousands of men it pointlessly sent to their death

the fate of the ukraine is to be demilitarized, de-industrialized,
and turned into an effeminant rump-state that the eu will innudate with lgbtq propaganda,
inextricably tied to the meager and and inssufficient 'aide' to rebuild whatever is left of your country
after Russia is done smashing it

>>521131776
>year 12 of two weeks operation to remove donbass terrorists
>Kek

this was keev precisely 48hrs into "no nato intelligence"

>>521130528 (OP)
Because %90 are being forced to battle nobody wants to die zelensky is a jew he's not even a real Ukrainian why is he the president of Ukraine? He should go back to isreal nobody respects him he doesn't belong there like a white man ruling Africa that shit didn't last long people dont want to die for a jew jews are bad people (but that's just my experience) oh and factual history over centuries

What do you think they'll do to the drone operators?

>>521130762
Every time the map moves slightly, it's "russia is advancing, two more weeks to keef!"
Every time the front freezes again it's "attritional warfare, chud!"

>>521130636
lel basado Sasha, very basado

>>521137707
>What do you think they'll do to the drone operators?

im guessing a lot of
>pic related

>>521130528 (OP)
Slavs traditionally do warfare of mass attrition and then claim some strategic genius has led them to prevail (while telling everyone about all of their heroic sacrifices).
Also ukrainians are back-up russians, so what did you expect.

>>521137811
and everytime you post a gore video, ukraine is winning

insufferable all around

>25
week ago Russian celebrated "encirclement" of 10000 Ukrainian soldiers that will surrender in next few days. Now their biggest celebration is surrender of 25 soldiers

>>521139428
>you post a gore video,
Why are you so offended by seeing people die to protect their holy motherland russia? it is their duty, their destiny, their use for their nation.

>>521132615
>get garbage equipment
>extensive trenches
Lmao they got blitzed when the war started. They had no defenses.

Holy shit, the NAFOtranny cope is priceless.
They must be getting paid overtime to somehow mitigate the blow from losing Pokrovsk, Kupyansk, Vovchansk, three fortress cities at the same time, AND getting their troops encircled without being able to pull out yet again.

>>521130746
Pokrovsk was 70k before you piggies went to Poland
>>521131477
Don't tell anyone but it's actually about Finnic revenge on the sl*v. Picrel heroes of our brotherly nations, like two peas in a pod

>>521130694
>>521130726
implying it isn't the same if not worse in your countries.

>>521130528 (OP)
Ukraine has held strong and surpassed everyone’s expectations. The thing is their own military treats them like slaves and Russia has since the very beginning treated those who surrender fairly. So it’s the end of the war, you’re nearly surrounded, if you flee you’ll be executed by your own country and if you surrender you get to live and will sleep soundly with a full belly of food. Gee - I wonder what most people would choose.

>>521139457
>we didnt need those dozens of surrendering soldiers anyway!

i fucking love nato logic
>>521139571
only 25 or 30 more gore videos to post, and ukraine will surely retake the 1991 borders!

>>521130528 (OP)
>We wanted to surrender anyway
>Take that putler!

Funding from us officially stopped. Man Ukraine has it rough.

>>521130746
>Pokrovsk 60k
>Mirnograd 50k
>Rodynske 15k
Number just keeps getting larger bud.

>>521130636
you live in a dictatorship retard

>>521140543
>didnt answer the question
>responds with nonsense
okay then

>>521131027
When the war is over these people better board the plane to Israel.
But ofc they are not smart enough ro realise it.
Can't wait for the videos.

>>521140888
>you live in a dictatorship retard
but enough about pathetic european niggers

>>521141029
no ones offended you faggot nigger /k/

it was simply stated that posting gore has not and never will be any sort of evidence that "ukraine is winning!"

is ukraine winning here?
>webm related

>>521141057
Putin is a dictator.
Putin ignores the russian constitution.
Russian authorities ignore laws when convenient.
USSR allied with Nazi Germany in the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact.

>>521141150
>it was simply stated that posting gore has not and never will be any sort of evidence that "ukraine is winning!"
>here is evidence that russia is winning
>posts gore
bravo

>>521140020
What expectations? They are collapsing full stop now. I don't think you realize how bad the fall of pokrovsk is going for Ukraine. Multiple fronts are moving very fast now zapo is falling fast as fuck. Where the fuck are the defenders? There is no fucking consolation prize in fucking war.

>>521130636

Preach.

>>521130528 (OP)
well russians shoot themselves and get eaten by pigs thats at its own tier

>>521140642
Yeah this bullshit is lame they are going to treat it as another war we lost, when all it would take is DOING ANYTHING like CIA sabotage, letting Ukraine use some exotic weapons like a flu virus bomb, getting Kamchatka to secede to China, some of that type of dank ass Cold War CIA shenanigans.

We are going to lose another war and its fucking laaaaame.

>>521130528 (OP)
jews

>>521131477
in order to save the Donbass children, russia sent 100s of thousands to die in Ukraine. stonks

>>521130746
Wen Crimea beach party?

Imagine if the USA was in a attritional warfare with Mexico for 4 years

>>521141194
>Elected official
>Dictator

>>521141587
Imagine if we were in one in yemen or Vietnam or syria or Afghanistan or....

>>521141598
>cant tell if uneducated american
>or unecucated russian

>>521131462
aka a delusional cabbage nigger thread

>>521141667
>Chancellor
>Elected official

>>521131462
>>521131484
>>521131511
Wen Crimea NAFO beach party tho?
Russia holds it's war objectives since the start, besides Ukranian unconditional capitulation ofc, since the start of the war

>>521141806
Anon, who was the main candidate for the political party "Eдинaя Poccия" ?

>>521141944
Hitler lost his election in 1933 you uneducated retard. He was appointed as a coalition leader. Not elected

>>521130528 (OP)
come on, the poor fuckers just got vanned a couple weeks ago. have a heart

>>521130528 (OP)
russian told them that the deadline for surrendering was 22 october. dishonorable surrender is not accepted.

they may get lined up and shot by russian afterward, be killed by their own drone operators, or spared but only if the photo op is good

>>521141867
Brownoids talking about international politics is embarrassing. Stick to Messi vs Ronaldo comparisons monkey

>>521141587
would mexico have a 55 nation coalition headed by China+Russia, throwing their entire GDP and industrial apparatus behind it too?

just want to know how 1:1 with the ukraine situation were going to simulate


>pic related
the garage sale trash nato didnt even want that was simply cheaper to send to ukraine to have Russia waste ammo on than it would be to empty the oil&gas and stick in storage at home

>>521130528 (OP)
Its a meat grinder. You cant even move 20-30 meters, before a drone spots and blows you up. The most non-sensical war since WW1. What an absolute waste of everything.

>>521141476
LMAO, the moment you try to fuck with Russia that way, China will rape your asshole with their own dirty warfare

>>521142007
>Brownoids talking about international politics is embarrassing.

>>521142007
Wen Crimea beach party tho?
Btw, Turks have more greek genetics than greeks LOL

>>521141476
>We are going to lose another war
who is "we" asshole? you're part of the problem in this country

>>521141476
>muh mythical black swan even will surely save nato and londons war in ukraine!!
>any day now!

holy absolute fuck
the state of nato fantasies are unreal at this point

>>521130528 (OP)
Ukraine is a hilariously shitty country.
>Set up a tv show where the main character is a noble president of ukraine to psyop the people into voting for the actor as president
>be propped up by jabba the hut aka nuland
>propaganda is so terrible your spokesperson is a weird troon and you think its strength to show yourself blowing people up who beg for mercy as if ur assyria circa 1000 BC.
>same people as russians pretty much so it just seems hilarious when you try to harp on how different u are KIV VS. KIEV
>nothing of note ever contributed to society
>shithole, ugly, depressing
>beg and demand money from everyone with an expectation that you get more and more just because
never have i seen people so shit as ukrainians. i used to sympathyze with them now i just want them to be destroyed.
Fuck Ukraine

>>521142088
Pretty sure like all wars the artillery and air force side is doing the grinding. Only one side is doing that atm. Drones may be a power tool but it won't sway a battle like the other two.

>>521142309
>never have i seen people so shit as ukrainians. i used to sympathyze with them now i just want them to be destroyed.
>Fuck ukraine

their thuggish arrogance is absolutely repulsive on top of it all

>>521141528
What was the whole reason in the first place? US nukes can hit you from anywhere in the world. It doesnt matter if they are 500km from Moscow or 5000. They will hit their target regardless. So what then? A conventional war is equally impossible because it will always lead to a full blown nuclear exchange. What is the point? Access to the black sea? As long as Turkey controls the straits, the black sea is pretty much useless against NATO.
Im asking again, whats the point of this retarded endeavour?

>>521142310
drones have categorically changed war forever, and they not only sway battles, but have fundamentally re-ordered war in their image

its like the jump from the 2d era of vidya, to 3d

>>521142457
to put a final end to senseless london sponsored butchering on Russias doorstep

>>521142457
And Russian nukes can't? Israel didn't use them as Iran beat the shit out of them. It's not easy to send off nukes as there are a lot of consequences for it.

>>521142493
They have made tanks less useful. It's like machine guns in WW1. Like most things though eventually they have counters.

>>521142393
yeahp. Dude ukrainians here in canada put that they are ukrainian on resumes and shit. I seen so many signs on lamposts taped by ukrainians "Master Builder from Ukraine - please call for any carpentry" and saw a lady beggins on the street "From ukraine, please help and donate". I shit you not I haven't even seen a fuckin jeet do that.
they are just so fuckin charismaless. Their president is a literal jew running around with an angry troll look on his face rolling his eyes cause he is getting some pushback on being perma funded for this dogshit war. And we have to pretend to give a fuck about the sovereignty of .... ukraine? why? what the FUCK have they done with their sovereingty and what will they do? NOITHING.

>>521142718
>Stuck between street shitters and a pigs
Pity you guys.

>>521141977
>He was appointed as a coalition leader. Not elected
Anon, who was the main candidate for the political party "Eдинaя Poccия" ?

>>521141806
>9 posts by this ID
>The following one is always worse than the previous

What is your point anon?
What are you doing?
Whom do you serve?

>>521133011
>80% of it is old equipment that would have to be scrapped anyway.
Nah, it's more like 50/50
Most of the air defense, drones, EW, surveillance, radars, etc. are modern.

>>521142794
>Tfw I'll just let ai thrash you

>>521131477
>i thought you wanted to liberate your east Ukrainian brothers who are actually Russians
Obviously we want to liberate those who don't take arms against us

>>521142595
>Like most things though eventually they have counters.

drones wont ever be 'countered' just as the artillery shell was never 'countered'

>>521142718
they are unimaginably thuggish, obstinate and ungrateful

>>521142718
>And we have to pretend to give a fuck about the sovereignty of .... ukraine?

Yep
That great nation that divided itself because half of its population considers themselves Russian trapped in a meme country created only 30 years ago which by cohen incidence became also the second largest country in Europe after Russia.

Their girls are hot at least.

not only that, Russias elections had international independent oversite

>>521132299
>You deserve misery and in all likelihood will be afflicted by it and later deny you ever supported this retarded war.
>You're a pest.
*look at the flag*
Oh the irony

>>521133011
>And 80% of it is old equipment that would have to be scrapped anyway.

lmao, it was the totality of state-of-the art nato weapons possesed on continental europe, and its virtually all "decomissioned trash" now burned out wrecks strewn across east ukraine

this faggot /k/ nigger talking point is probably the most unimaginably retarded and self-harming vomit to come out of london

>>521143002
Payload will always limit them.

>>521142967
Sure anon. Thats okay. If your little disease riddled genetically damaged brain cannot keep up, lets ask the machines if they think Putin is a dictator.
So he is
>an elected official
>a dictator
as determined by AI.
Which is a direct contradiction to the implied mocker in >>521141598
So, you were wrong. A small barking little dog full of confidence, but wrong.

>>521143145
Germany sent you food in 1991. I wish they hadnt.

>>521142788
ya times r hard. but i also pity you bro for ur nog issues and ms13
>>521143002
>they are unimaginably thuggish, obstinate and ungrateful
i am getting that. Just so lacking in anything that would make me sympathize with them. They ask for money while acting like JUST DESERVE IT and how DARE we ask how much.
>>521143032
its literally translated to "borderland" "on the border". begs the question on the border of fuckin what. Yugoslavia broke apart and it was retarded then but at least even then the croats were catholic, the serbs were orthodox, they used different scripts, there was SOME BASIS for claiming to be a different people. This shit? both use cyrillic both are orthodox. what the fuck is even "unique" about ukraine?

The Ukrainian's have proven they are mad cunts. Russia looks like a complete bitch, even if they EVENTUALLY win.

>>521143032
>Their girls are hot at least.

>>521143199
>Payload will always limit them.
then you simply send another (and another)

>>521143720
yup, ukrainians have proven to be suicidally gullible to londons lies

>>521130636
based

>>521143799
Did you ever heard of saying that soldiers focus on tactics and generals on logistics ? How are you going to send another if you don't have logistics in line ?

>>521130669
>>521130746
Uhm ... hrukbros?

>>521130528 (OP)
/k/ope status?

>>521144185
what do you think is harder to logistically support that load of drones or a fucking mobile artillery battalion

1 single toyota could dump a thousand FPVS into a position, it takes 10 vehicles and 100+crew to staff an artillery formation

>>521130528 (OP)
Why do you live in Australia, vatnigger. You have to feed the meat grinder, you filthy coward.

>>521144797
>Why do you live in Australia, vatnigger. You have to feed the meat grinder, you filthy coward.

>>521143484
>Many people who don't like him describe him as
Lmao

>>521142310
Drones can definitely sway battles.

>>521130528 (OP)
Fake. Heroes never surrender.