Thread 521150862

So, i decided i want to become a Christian but i dont know which church to go.
Catholic or Protestant? And why?

>>521150862 (OP)
Catholics aren't Christian

>>521150862 (OP)
Protestants aren't Christians.

>>521150862 (OP)
I'll pray that you instead one day revert to your native pre-Christian religion.

>>521151148
Do not fall for glownigger divide & conquer tactics.

Christianity is the definition of "right wing" political ideology:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution

Christianity has always been a racist religion:
>"Oh, race of Franks, race from across the mountains, race chosen and beloved [...]"
>"the kingdom of the Persians, an accursed race, a race utterly alienated from God [...]"
- https://www2.cbn.com/article/church/pope-urban-iis-speech-calling-first-crusade

The racist and anti-semitic Confederates have always been Christian.
The National Socialists used the Celtic cross and gave out iron cross medals for bravery. The white term for "swastika" is hakenkreuz, meaning hooked cross.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkreuzbanner

Here's a growing list of Christian political commentators who are racist and anti-semitic:
- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult
Feel free to reply to this post with others.

Educate boomers irl. If you don't preach to them, the anti-Christian kikes will:
- https://news.antiwar.com/2025/10/06/israel-to-spend-up-to-4-1-million-in-propaganda-campaign-targeting-american-christians/
israeli nationalism ("zionism") is a heresy:
- https://youtu.be/GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s
- https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U
- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A
The "holocaust" (burnt offering) is a lie made up by kikes, both soviet and freemason:
- https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videos
Boycott israeli products:
- https://bdsmovement.net

Common glownigger talking points:
>"jesus is a kike"
The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle, hence the nickname.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Alternative_plus_sign
>"off topic"
Reminder the pope is the monarch of a country. In fact in many white nations there is no separation between church and state.

>>521150942
Why do you say that fren? And wtf is that picture?

>>521151067
Thought germans were full on protestants

>>521150862 (OP)
the satanic one

>>521151223
What kind of church did your parents go to?
My parents are Polish, and Poland is 98% catholic

>>521150862 (OP)
>Templar
>w-what church should I go?
$0.000001 has been deposited you filthy shill

>>521151223
>Why do you say that fren? And wtf is that picture?
Look up "The Lactation of Saint Bernard" and you'll realize immediately why Catholics aren't Christian. They're polytheist deviants.

>>521151312
Catholic. Its just that i find really weird how priests arent allowed to marry. It gives off a really gay vibe.

>>521150862 (OP)
Orthodox or Catholic.
Just know that some catholic practices were made to expand the church (pushing mary to attract women, pushing saints, etc) and have nothing to do with God. At the end of the day everyone will be judged individually, the church is just means to learn and a community.

Go to one near your house and build relationships with the people you meet there. Don’t worry about denomination, Rome wasn’t built in a day, you can use prayer and study to determine your faith in that matter later.

>>521151194
I'll pray for you too.

>>521151223
>Thought germans were full on protestants
As of recently there are more German Catholics than there are German Protestants but it's a pretty even split.

>>521150862 (OP)
>Catholic or Protestant?
Catholic

>Why?
Because Protestants only read the Bible. Catholics actually live the Bible. Christianity is the call to live out Christ's very life, to emulate Him as best as you can while knowing you will always fail yet daring to try anyway. Christ's key life points are all sacraments, sacred memories of his behaviours and actions. Baptism, confession, the communion of the last supper, sacrifice. All of these embodiments of his life are preserved in sacrament through tradition.

Protestants outright refuse to participate in them. That's why if you are serious about following Christ, and you actually intend to carry your own cross, you avoid protestantism.

>>521150862 (OP)
Orthodox.
There's Orthodox American. They are quite based.
Which state you're in?

>>521150862 (OP)
I suppose orthodox and catholics are both the oldest denominations, catholicism is bigger in the world in general, but many developed countries have a higher share of protestants, for the purposes of marriage im not sure what share of catholics are okay with marrying someone from a different denomination and which share of protestants are okay with that

>>521150862 (OP)
Try both of them. Go to mass a few times at a Catholic Church and then try some of the protestant churches.

See what works for you

>>521150862 (OP)
Come with us

Jehovah's Witnesses are the truest and most purest form of Christianity similar to that of the 1st Century Christians. We are the only ones following the Bible to a tee.

Our primary message is that of God's Kingdom now ruling in heaven by Jesus Christ who has been enthroned as King. We use God's name and teach it to others openly. We are the only ones actively preaching the message from your local neighborhoods, your local businesses, to missionary work in the most distance lands in the world. All of this without shedding one drop of blood or firing one bullet at an enemy.

JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history. In fact, they were imprisoned in the LOLacaust for refusing to war for Hitler WHILE they were imprisoned in the US for refusing to war for the US. Right now, there are JW in prison in Uzebekistan, South Korea, and Armenia for refusing military service. A few months ago Russia officially banned their work for refusing to be nationalistic. They are the most innocent of all the sects.

Here's a video we made for the children.

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/05/05/jehovahs-witness-video-under-fire-for-homophobic-message/

>>521150862 (OP)
>Thing Kingdom Of God Is Within You

>>521150862 (OP)
Shir down gpdsammws nasa birnnypur textbooks rwtarded aswhole and removes zog jog xog mpg and prog lutherna are catholic you blind communist zion doing g communist impotent ass zog cog shit

>>521152585
>JW
Jews?

>>521152730
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>>521150862 (OP)
>I decided I want to worship the Jew
Sure, you're totally not the spammer making this same fucking thread over and over

>>521150862 (OP)
Eastern Orthodox

>>521151194
>The word "kike" comes from "kikel", which means circle. The kikes hate the cross so much, they would sign documents with a circle,
Still waiting for anyone to provide anything to back this up. I'm not asking for much, just a single document signed with a circle

Obviously u need to join my church of poopoo-peeism which is the only one TRVE version of Christianity as endorsed by Jesus himself (revealed to me in a ketamine haze). Im the only member so far but narrow is the path etc. Everyone else calling themselves Christian is satanic and a heretic and every other church represents the whore of babylon.

>>521152763
We have a joke here in Brazil about Jehova Witnesses going door to door annoying people

Why ask /pol/?

>>521150862 (OP)
>So, i decided i want to become a Christian
fucking idiot

>>521152585
>Jesus was hung on a post not a cross
>muh 144,000 LITERAL elect

>JW are the only Christian sect who's members have never participated in any major war throughout their 100+ year history.

What are Quakers?
What are Mennonites?
What are Amish?

I'm sorry, most JW I've encountered are friendly people but you are in a cult that does not even put Christ first. They act like NPCs with rehearsed scripts and treat people like Pokemon trying to catch them even when they clearly say they are content with the church they are already apart of.

anglican, if you want to lib the fuck out and join a beautiful community

>>521152990
Watch your mouth fren

>>521153050
>does not even put Christ first
I put our father, God, first and only worship our father. Christ said the only way is through me, the "me" is the divine within all of us by virtue of being our fathers creation.

>>521150942
>>521151067
>>521151194

>>521153050
>What are Quakers?
>What are Mennonites?
>What are Amish?

Those people are isolationist. The Bible forbids isolation.

>(Proverbs 18:1) One isolating himself will seek [his own] selfish longing; against all practical wisdom he will break forth.

>(Romans 14:7) None of us, in fact, lives with regard to himself only, and no one dies with regard to himself only;

What were we commanded to do?

>(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

>(Matthew 28:19, 20) Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”

>(Acts 1:8) but YOU will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU, and YOU will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de′a and Sa·mar′i·a and to the most distant part of the earth.”

>(Acts 5:42) And every day in the temple and from house to house they continued without letup teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ, Jesus.

>(Acts 20:20) while I did not hold back from telling YOU any of the things that were profitable nor from teaching YOU publicly and from house to house.

>>521150942
Says the heretic

>>521150862 (OP)
If you want to be a Christian, you just have to start shooting brown people while holding a bible

>>521152585
Your apocalyptic predictions failed not once, not twice but three fucking times and thus your retard cult debunked itself

>>521153943
I fucked up the flags and revealed im brown

>>521151894
>>521152279
>>521152580
Go protest ICE

>>521151664
>>521152394
>>521152405
>>521152837

>>521150862 (OP)
They're both no good. John the Baptist and Jesus didn't join up with the established religious order.

>>521150862 (OP)
Orthodoxy they’re the only ones not condoning lgbthiv bs

>>521154266
>I measure a religions value in how many diseased tuna holes their priests have been inside of

>>521150862 (OP)
I don't comprehend why you would willingly choose to worship a dead Jew. At least people raised into it have an excuse.

>>521150942
You will never be a real Christian. You have no apostolic succesion, you have no sacraments, you have no tradition. You are a heretic twisted by bad philosophy and private interpretation into a crude mockery of the one, holy, Catholic, and apostolic faith. All the “blessings” you get are two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. The saints are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your false theology behind closed doors.
True Christians are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of sacred tradition have allowed the faithful to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even main line Protestant churches that “pass” look unadorned and profane to the faithful. Your missing Bible books are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk convert to services with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets an earful of contemporary Christian rock.
You will never have the beatific vision. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the heresy creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – your heresy will fade away just like gnosticism, Arianism, Manichism and the rest. Historians will find your false teachings, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable lies of Protestantism. They’ll file them under the name of the founder of your particular heresy, Luther, Calvin, or Henry VIII (not Jesus Christ!), and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know it was just a passing fad. Your heresy will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is anethma.
This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back (unless you convert to Catholicism.)

>>521151194
right wing = worships Jews
Christianity = worships Jews
There is nothing good about worshiping the Jews.

>>521153876
>>521154758
You're both hellbound polytheists and you know it. Stop trying to drag others into Hell with you, it's demonic.

>>521154754
Because im a good person and i feel Christianity is the religion for me
Im 30yo already and need to find a religious wife too

>>521153849
>(Proverbs 18:1)
>(Romans 14:7
These quotes specify only with individual isolation.
While I admire your dedication to evangelizing, it is doomer idealogy that provides no hope and no global salvation on earth.

Humans are being refined like Gold and the bible shows us this progress clearly. In the end, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and a whole lot more than 144,000 will be saved. The "elect" elitism in JW and Calvinism leaves a bad taste.

I do agree with your organizations disdain for secular life including participation in government, holidays, such as birthday's which I find prideful myself and the obvious material pervasive nature of others. I think that does fit in line with Christ's teaching and a lot of denomination's miss that mark.

>>521154936
Religion is not for good people, its for bad people. Bad people need a sky daddy to prevent them from rape and murder.

>>521154758
Don’t forget to add this into the copypasta:

Catholics & Orthodox build their churches in the shape of giant crucifixes. Inside these churches, they resemble a King’s court. The altar is the throne.

Protestantism ‘churches’ to look like courthouses. The focus not on a throne, but on a pulpit. The meaning of the design choice spells out that Protestants consider the speaker (the reverend or pastor or middle-aged soccer mom) to be more important than God Himself.

Protestant--the Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.

>>521154266
They look cool as fuck.
Based elders

>>521155209
>whore of babylon
Is the Vatican City in Iraq?

>>521151194
>Christianity has always been a racist religion:

Go ask this on a blue board, this isn't political

>>521154223
Why? I support what they are doing

>>521150862 (OP)
orthodox church and protestants aren't Christians

you can strike a good balance by going for SEDEVACANTIST Catholicism

it's so traditional that they literally still have their Mass in Latin, they use the Latin Bible, and they dismiss the Pope himself as fake and gay, so you can be a protestant without actually being Protestant

if you want to be based, your choices are Sedevacantist Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy, but i would recommend Sedevacantist Catholicism because it makes papists seethe

go buy a Douay-Rheims Bible and start learning Latin

>>521155071
Well, you know, thats just your opnion

>>521150862 (OP)
the map shall decide for you

>>521155303
I’ve had Nigerian and Ghanian priests before. They weren’t bad, one of them was actually pretty cool, he hated the state of Israel and was a massive Tolkien fan and interacted with the community very often, me and my brother took him to see The Hobbit when it released in theaters and then grabbed some pizza. Never hung out with a catholic priest before like a bro but it happened.
Anyway he went back to Ghana, so did the Nigerian priest. They don’t actually stay in the countries they are sent to, they go back home.

That post on your pic is probably full of shit. Not a single black priest I met ever mentioned MLK or racism or race. Their whole focus was to raise awareness for the Christians getting slaughtered by Muslims in Africa and urged people to spread the word and collectively pray for them.

Christianity is anti-racist, this is true. Because we believe every human has a soul and are God’s own. It is not pro-immigration or race mixing though. I’ve met many laity and even priests and bishops hard against the globohomo agenda.

>>521155303
Imagine being Christian and racist lmfao

>>521150942
>>521151067
Yes goyim, fight
Fight over how to please your Jewish master

are you actually going to believe all the magic hocus pocus?

>>521156228
>are you actually going to believe all the magic hocus pocus?
You believe in magic hocus pocus too you just don’t question it. You believe that paper money has magical value despite being only paper. You go outside and see large structures of stone and metal, buildings, and you call them “bank” “apartment” “grocery store” “restaurant” despite the fact in reality they are just large structures of stone. You believe in all kinds of hocus pocus yourself, leaf.

>>521155661
Its not, its been a very common thing for religious people to ask atheists why they don't rape and murder. These people are so evil at their core that they cannot even comprehend that someone would willingly choose to be good without threats of eternal punishment.

>>521155825
>That post on your pic is probably full of shit. Not a single black priest I met ever mentioned MLK or racism or race
His point is that black and brown people are spiritual leaders for white people in christianity, if you're a white nationalist how can you accept that? I definetly couldn't, I'm not saying the ghanian priest was a bad person by the way I'm just saying in general that I dont like it when niggers and brown people are spiritual leaders for white people, thats wrong imo
>Their whole focus was to raise awareness for the Christians getting slaughtered by Muslims in Africa
Yeah they advocate for their own people, the africans not for us, I can understand it from his point of view, he can bring his subversive views to Europe and beg money from us and guilt trip us by using christianity as a tool to claim they are our brothers or something, this is the entire point of the post
>It is not pro-immigration or race mixing though
Its not against it either though, there is nothing in the new testament that says ethnocentrism is good, if those priests were against the globohomo agenda then why do they accept african spiritual leaders for white people?

>>521156401
wait, you don't think we get our morals from God?

shalom alakum, fellow abrahamic brother

>>521155865
Well that was basically all of Europe for hundreds of years, its very easy to imagine desu, nowdays its much harder ofcourse since christianity is no longer a white peoples religion but majority brown

>>521156401
>its been a very common thing for religious people to ask atheists why they don't rape and murder.

It is true, I ask atheists this all the time too. If you genuinely think that when theists ask this to atheists that they are being literal, then you probably have autism. And i mean that genuinely, that is an autistic face-value shallow interpretation you just shared.

The point to ask atheists why dont they rape or murder etc is to get the atheist to define their basis for goodness, to challenge them to try and define where goodness comes from, and atheists cannot define where goodness comes from without appealing to subjectivity or moral relativism. And when the atheist reveals themselves to be a moral relativist, you can then get them to admit or condone all kinds of evil using their own logic.

Ask an atheist what’s wrong if two consenting adults agreed to kill the other to cannibalise them, legally signing contracts and had every check for mental wellness etc. Ive met so many atheists who said it would be “OK”. ive met one atheist who said theoretically it would be OK to fuck a dolphin.

The point isnt “hurr im actually evil, and i need god to stop my evil”. The point is to show atheists dont understand what good or evil even are.

>>521150862 (OP)
Calvinism is the way to go.
Conquered the World.
The top countries are all settled by Calvinists.
White ethno-nationalism is inherently Calvinist.
Letting in Lutherans and Catholics is why you're now run by Jews.

>>521156542
Absolutely not. At least for me. I have a pretty decent understanding of my own moral framework and how it works. Maybe its because I am an autist so I did not get a lot of the built in machinery, I had to implement my own.

>>521156713
> Ask an atheist what’s wrong if two consenting adults agreed to kill the other to cannibalise them, legally signing contracts and had every check for mental wellness etc
Its gross and weird, and I would have them both euthanized for their own protection.

>>521152279
But I’m a prot and I was baptized, confess and receive communion every week, and make sacrifice as I’m able to.

>>521150862 (OP)
>hey pol i decided to ruin my life with hardcore drugs should i inject herion or meth

christianity is so fuckin evil lol
we are all divine energy trapped in a prison world and there is no omnipotent god

>>521150862 (OP)

Christianity is a positive step forward...

Be aware many Christian organizations are infested with Nigger&Jews & pro-Mongreloid propaganda.

Just study the Bible, get Latin-English version, to locate where ZOG-Pimps have misrepresented things.

Ultimately its you & the Lord, good-faith-efforts to find truth will be rewarded.

Public-Proclamation, or Virtue-Signalling is generally not advisable.

>>521156540
>His point is that black and brown people are spiritual leaders for white people in christianity, if you're a white nationalist how can you accept that?

He is mistaken. Christ is the spiritual leader, and the priest is a role which is meant to be “In persona Christi” In the person of Christ. That is to say, so long as that priest speaks and acts in a Christ-like manner, then the leader is not the priest. The priest is ambassador for Christ. And that is why priests can be black, white, jeet, chink, whatever. The priesthood is a vocation concerning spirit, not body.

>Yeah they advocate for their own people, the africans not for us, I can understand it from his point of view, he can bring his subversive views to Europe and beg money from us and guilt trip us by using christianity as a tool to claim they are our brothers or something, this is the entire point of the post.

It is not subversion to ask for alms, support, supplication or prayer. Subversion has to do with installing false realities to undermine actual reality. If a Nigerian priest asks for support and prayers for the Christians killed in Africa, he isn’t telling any lies. That is what is happening on a massive scale. And the African priests I met didn’t just advocate for their own people only, they advocated for my people too. Nigerian priest gave many sermons to urge us all to vote against euhanasia, abortion, and state surveillance.

>Its not against it either though

Impliclty it is. See the story of Babel, see the verses warning against “unequally yoked” homes.

>>521150862 (OP)
I'm orthodox Christian but it you study Christianity in and out you have to come to the conclusion, that the Catholic Church is the real church

>>521156955
>its gross and weird, and I would have them both euthanized for their own protection.

Protection implies defending against harm. Harm implies physical ailment or injury that results in death. Euthanasia is death. So you’re telling me the protection against death is death?

>>521157189

Derailed by Gnoggs?

As-Above, So-Below .
Creation is in GOD's image,

I would assume there are rules of behavior (Ten-Commandments), and violations will be Judged.
"By this standard- all things are measured."

>>521150862 (OP)
You want to go Catholic. There are nice Protestants. I'll never deny that. However, "Protestantism" is ultimately a collection of way too many, sometimes opposing, beliefs. There are two protestant churches near my home. One has a tranny flag. The other is alright.
Catholics have very clear, very researchable doctrine. You'll meet Catholics who are only culturally Christian and and too many commie priests (which is annoying), but at this point, you'll find that in every church. There's rot everywhere.

>>521154958
>it is doomer idealogy that provides no hope and no global salvation on earth.

Really?

>>521150862 (OP)
Do you want to be a "christian", go to church, read a little bit of bible, and have a christian religious life?

Or do you want to surrender 100% of your life to Jesus and become his slave and reject even your own family?

One is fake and leads to hell, the other one is real and will tear you apart, for the minimal chance of going to heaven?

The covid vaccine was the mark of the beast, if you took it then nothing you do matters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrzOCkcD-IM

>>521150862 (OP)
Just remember Jesus fulfilled to OT laws. Commandments aren't laws.
If you go to a Christian Church and all they do is talk about the OT.
LEAVE.

>>521150862 (OP)
the churches aren't like the ones you see in movies
the ones around me are all pretty ghetto
they look like cafeterias with tables set up in them
be careful

>>521154958
>In the end, every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess and a whole lot more than 144,000 will be saved.

Jesus and other parts of the Bible speak of the Christian congregation in two categories. One is the "little flock" and 144,000 in Revelations. The other is the "other sheep" not of that previous fold. They are in revelations the "Great Crowd" of an uncountable number.

>(Luke 12:32) “Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.

>(Revelation 14:1) And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.

>(Revelation 14:3) And they are singing as if a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one was able to master that song but the hundred and forty-four thousand, who have been bought from the earth.

>(John 10:16) “And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

>(Revelation 7:9) After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands.

The Bible speaks of a minority of Chrisitians that's why they are called "little" flock because there is only a few. That is the 144,000 compared to the other sheep who are a "great crowd" and are uncountable. The littleflock/144k are "bought from the earth". If everyone is going to heaven what is so significant about them being "bought from the earth"? The significance is that the rest are not going to heaven but staying on a paradise earth.

TLDR: The 144K are the only Christians going to heaven. The rest of us are staying here on a cleaned up paradise Earth.

>>521157464

I would agree in-part.

The hierarchy is infested with ZOG...

The parishioners are believers, and very articulate.

>>521150862 (OP)
>>521150942
>>521151067
Mormonism. It has grown on me, in spite of every strawman thrown against it.
https://ldsfocuschrist2.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/losing-battle-not-knowing-it-carl-mosser-paul-owens-1997/
You should also check out Missionary Discussions with Travis Anderson on yt

>>521150862 (OP)
ORTHODOX

>>521157726
>You want to go Catholic. There are nice Protestants. I'll never deny that.

Also this. I want to join this sentiment too as I am never saying it enough as a Catholic as I often shitpost too much and grief protties too often.

Truth is, theres a lot of protestants I admire and respect and I’ve seen many fantastic exemplars of faith among protestants, Hell, some of them throughout history I’d argue would be capable of canonisation for sainthood.

Protestants have a respectable zeal and commitment to discerning the word. They make for even better Catholics when they finally come back to the true church. All of the best bible study buffs in catholic circles I ever met had all been ex-protestants who carried over their gifts for discerning the scriptures into the Catholic church.

>>521157939
>Mormonism.
Mormons don't believe Native Americans are of Asian descent.
Which has been proven that they are of Asian descent.

>>521157622
Yes, death is a form of protection. Death ends suffering. People who are extreamly mentally deranged whilst not in apparent distress, I believe some states of being are fundamentally unacceptable for a sentient being to exist in.

>>521158281
>Death ends suffering
And causes more suffering for anyone around the death. What of the mentally unwell person’s mother? Father? Brothers or sisters? Any friends or lovers? They suffer as a result of your death dealing for who you deem mentally unwell. And if your goal was to reduce suffering, you dont reduce it, you end up multiplying it.

It doesnt add up atheist.

>>521157272
So then it is a globohomo religion by definition, I cant draw any other conclusion from what you said in your first paragraph
>It is not subversion to ask for alms, support, supplication or prayer. Subversion has to do with installing false realities to undermine actual reality
From my point of view it is serious subversion to have non white spiritual leaders for white people who promote africans as their brothers and who should be donated money to, I dunno what else to say to that
>That is what is happening on a massive scale
And has happened for thousands of years and will keep on happening, its Africa bro, thats what they do
>didn’t just advocate for their own people only, they advocated for my people too
How so? He told you to help his ethnic kins cause which will provide zero benefits to your own people exept maybe you feel good for doing a moral thing from your perspective
>See the story of Babel, see the verses warning against “unequally yoked” homes.
I have but you just advocated for brown people to be spiritual leaders for white people regardless of that and dont see anything wrong with that, so clearly the story means something completely different to you than what my interpretation is, this is why I cant be a christian desu, you basically have to accept that you owe some kind of loyalty to brown people who are christian which is similar to communist lies about a global working class struggle. This might seem a bit callous but I dont give two shits about Africa, if they do good then its fine by me and if they are struggling well its what they have done for thousands of years, I dont feel kinship or responsibility to pray for them, give them money etc. When is the last time africans helped us europeans? Never happened

>>521157813
>Or do you want to surrender 100% of your life to Jesus and become his slave
Thats FUCKING GAY fren

>>521157824
Fulfilled does not mean abolish. Christians must keep the law. Matter of fact, John tells us: "Sin is transgression of the LAW/TORAH"

https://youtu.be/TGfLSJvmtPQ

Jesus will say "Depart from me, you who break Gods laws"

>>521158689
Look retard
We eat fish without scales, catfish
Look retard
we no longer kill animals as blood sacrifices
Look retard
we no longer seek revenge, eye for and eye
Look retard
we eat pig

because...
wait for it..

Jesus fulfilled the OT
now fuck off

>>521158689
again retard
Commandments ARE NOT laws

>>521158856
Christians must keep the dietary law. There is nothing in the NT that nullifies Gods dietary law.

In acts 15 we are told its forbidden to eat blood. Not eating blood is in deuteronomy.
Paul kept the law, Peter kept the law, Jesus kept the law.
Sabbath must be kept, pork cannot be eaten, and christmas is pagan

>>521157824
Which Commandment exactly do you have an issue with?
Each is fundamental to a functioning society.

>>521150862 (OP)

Hello, it depends how spiritual do you like your experience.
Personally, I was born and raised orthodox (Greek not Russian) and it has been a pleasant experience up until now with a period of distancing myself and returning.

Also we don't discuss religious matters with each other, so you have the freedom to explore your spirituality at your pace.

It's also called Orthodoxy (which means "true worship") and no other Christian worship has refuted this, so this may be the real deal.

>>521159165
First four commandments aren't necessary in forming a functioning society, people have done so many times in history, explain to me how
>Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Is vital in making a functioning society for example?

>>521159086
Wrong.

Mat 15:11
>Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Dietary laws have nothing to do with God (unless fasting counts as diet) and were only enforced as sanitary measures especially when the Israelite were vulnerable during the Exodus

>>521158479
>So then it is a globohomo religion by definition, I cant draw any other conclusion from what you said in your first paragraph

That’s because you wrongfully assume a world being united in spirit somehow means being united by government or by blood. It is not globohomo. Globohomo is about eroding identity and nations and borders to control everyone under one governmental body. That is not what the faith is about, because Christianity tells us that the world is to go to HELL. There is no saving the world, it is finished. The goal is to survive and make it to the Kingdom. The Christian has no wish or desire to enact globohomo. Because the globe is a piece of trash meant for the furnace, clinging onto it is folly.

>From my point of view it is serious subversion to have non white spiritual leaders for white people who promote africans as their brothers and who should be donated money to, I dunno what else to say to that.

They are not in subversion. Subversion would be if they convinced whites from ceasing charity for fellow whites to serve blacks. Asking for charity for the brothers and sisters in Africa is not a subversion, especially when the African priest gives back to the community who hosts him.

We had a white family in our catholic church. They stopped attending. The dad got cancer, rapidly died. The mother diagnosed with epilepsy, seizures. Kids got their minds and hearts broken. African priest raised an entire fund to give to them, a white family, and urged us all to pay the family prayers, visits, support.

>And has happened for thousands of years and will keep on happening, its Africa bro, thats what they do.
Just because evil is normalised does not make evil any less evil. Evil should always be fought against.

>>521159165
>>521159398

The New Covenant can be broken down to only 2 commandments needed.

Mark 12:30

>And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
>And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

>>521150862 (OP)
Yahweh boils in shit.

>>521150862 (OP)
>being a christcuck in 2025 CE
lmao

>>521159165
Jesus fillfulled the OT laws. Commandments aren't laws.
There is a reason why we don't sacrifice animals anymore.
Because of Jesus fullfilling the OT laws.
Its the same reason Paul was against circumcision

>2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
>3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
>4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
>5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
>6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Jesus fulfilled the OT laws.

>>521159411
You are ignorant of the truth. In Matthew 15 and Mark 7, Jesus is rebuking the pharasees of their manmade traditions of ceremonially washing their hands, cups and utensils or they claimed a person would be considered defiled before God.

Jesus rebukes them for this made up doctrine, and states that "Eating with unwashen hands does not defile man".

At no point was the dietary law the subject, and neither would Jesus be able to violate Gods dietary law, since that would be sin and he would not have been the sinless lamb.

Sorry, you dont know scripture.

>>521154699
I don't know how to tell you this, but you'll need to fuck to save the white race

>>521159947
Mat 6:25

>Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on.
>Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

There are no dietary laws.

>15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
>16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
>17 And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
>18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
>19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
>20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

Jesus fullfilled the OT dietary laws

>There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
>There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
>There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
>There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

Recommend books that have convinced people to become Christian. (Not the bible. Too obvious)

>>521159578
>Globohomo is about eroding identity and nations and borders to control everyone under one governmental body
And christianity is about all humans being united in one spirit, I just dont believe in that and its clearly observable when you look at the differences between different human populations. If god wanted us to be united in spirit he would probably not have made us have such vast differences in spirit on average but I dont claim to understand god to be fair
>That is not what the faith is about, because Christianity tells us that the world is to go to HELL. There is no saving the world, it is finished
That is honestly disgusting to me if thats how christians view the world, cant relate at all. I for one am very thankful for being alive and being able to experience the world, both good and bad aspects of it. If I can contribute making my enviroment better for the people who come after me in some way I'll definetly try to do that
>They are not in subversion. Subversion would be if they convinced whites from ceasing charity for fellow whites to serve blacks
Thats what it is though, if you do charity for blacks its inevitably away from charity that you could do for your own people and in these times we certainly need it, you have finite resources and time so using those is not a completely trivial matter
>African priest raised an entire fund to give to them, a white family, and urged us all to pay the family prayers, visits, support.
Props to him then, good of him to do that
>Just because evil is normalised does not make evil any less evil. Evil should always be fought against.
You just said in an earlier paragraph that the world is already doomed and a piece of trash and that there is no saving the world, that its meant for the furnace. Maybe its the language barrier or something but to me those are two completely contradictory things

Christian’s aren’t Christian’s

God needs God to save me from God and things God made in a world without freewill where Adam and Eve can make choices to make choices and be tricked into making choice which is choice?

>>521160272

>Mere Christianity CS Lewis
>Dostoevsky's major works
>Tolstoy's short stories
>Dante's Inferno
>Pilgrim's Progress John Bunyan

Start with the Russians.

>>521160079
You are ignorant of scripture. The apostles literally forbids eating of blood

ACTS 15:

>Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the MEAT OF STRANGLED ANIMALS, and FROM BLOOD. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

Deuteronomy "OT" forbids eating blood. NT forbids eating blood in acts 15. Checkmate.
>>521160215
Go be a cannibal, eat and swollow cum, eat blood.... Oh wait, those things defile a person.

Also retard, learn to read scripture in context:

1Then the Pharisees and some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem gathered around Jesus, 2and they saw some of His disciples --------------------eating with hands that were defiled-----------—that is, -----unwashed.-------

3Now in holding to the --------tradition of the elders------, the Pharisees and all the Jews -------do not eat until they wash their hands ceremonially--------.a 4And on returning from the market, they ------do not eat unless they wash-------. And there are ------------many other traditions for them to observe, including the washing of cups, pitchers, kettles, and couches for dining.b--------------

5So the Pharisees and scribes questioned Jesus: “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders? Instead, they eat with defiled hands.”

It was never about pork, it was manmade tradition of ceremonially wash hands and cups. Jesus even says:

>These are what defile a man, but --------eating with unwashed hands does not defile him.”--------


RETARD

Did you pick between the Pokemon dialga and palkia yet?

>>521158231
Strawman :) try again

>>521160629
you don't know what that words means

>>521159623
To me it sounds ridiculous that the creator of the universe demands you to love him with all your heart and strength but maybe it means loving goodness itself since god is pure goodness or something like that? Second one is fine I guess allthough I find love to be a pretty strong word when it comes to your neighbors, do you legitimately love your neighbors no matter what type of people they are? If they dont take you into consideration at all and blast music at 3 am loving them seems like a chore and to me love is something that is pretty natural, you dont have to jump through hoops to love your loved ones because its pretty much automatic

>>521160349
>If god wanted us to be united in spirit he would probably not have made us have such vast differences in spirit on average but I dont claim to understand god to be fair.

The differences are there, they are real. I won’t deny they exist and I don’t think the differences are a bad thing either. In Orthodoxy they explain it suitably, that God intended to have a garden of many flowers, of many colors, many species of spirit. This is metaphor for the races. God intended the white man to be white, and the black man to be black. Both are different, yet both depend on God. I see no problems in this. I want blacks to survive, thrive, live. I want my own people, whites, to do likewise. I do not argue we should intermix to achieve this. Blacks deserve a good home nation, just as we deserve our own home nation. Thats why helping Africa is beneficial, because the alternative that is offered by secularists is to take them in as migrants.

>That is honestly disgusting to me if thats how christians view the world
You know it’s true, too. That is why you are here on /pol/ to lament over the state of the world. The world is sick, and you know it. Why pretend otherwise?

>if you do charity for blacks its inevitably away from charity that you could do for your own people and in these times we certainly need it, you have finite resources and time so using those is not a completely trivial matter.

Or you can help both people. It’s that simple. And by the way, you are not told that you SHOULD. like you are guilted into giving donation, it is merely asked to those who want to. You can not donate anything if you wish. Doesnt make you a bad person. Thats between you and God.

>You just said in an earlier paragraph that the world is already doomed and a piece of trash and that there is no saving the world, that its meant for the furnace.

Yes. No saving the world, but there is a way in saving souls. Souls dont belong to the world. But to God.

>>521160559
Thanks for proving my point.
>OT jewish law: you cant eat with unwashed hands, you will defile yourself
>Jesus, NT: yes you can, and it wont
That's because Jesus fulfilled those old laws

>>521150862 (OP)
Look, I'm Pro-Catholic, but there are still God loving Protestants out there, and its better to be Protestant in a good church than not a believer at all.
Catholicism is the way to go, but if you must be Protestant it has to uphold these things:
The divinity of Christ
The trinity
The virgin birth
Homosexuality's a sin
Preaching is a male only job
Any church that does these things is at least trying to be faithful to God even if there's theological disputes between the denominations. Stay away from any denomination that lets women be pastors and avoid Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses both.
Good luck, fren.

>>521160559
>>521160559
>>521160559
>>521160559

>Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat

>Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat

>Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat

>Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat

Oh men of little faith

>>521161042
OT law never said to wash hands, this is why Jesus called it "Traditions of men" not "Commandments of God", because it was never commanded by neither God nor the prophets. The pharasees made up their own commandments outside of God and Jesus called them out for it.

Jesus in mark 7:
>8You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.d”

>9He went on to say, “You neatly set aside the command of God to maintaine your own tradition.

>>521161263
This has nothing to do with pork

Its pretty simple.
You are NOT a follower of Jesus if you don't believe that Jesus fulfilled the old testament.
You are part of the synagogue of Satan.

>>521160743
When you Love God. You love all of God's Creation. It has an umbrella effect.
Love is infinite. It's the only thing you can share that GROWS when it is shared and not parted. Therefore if God is infinite and Love is infinite, God is Love.

Yes you Love Your Neighbour with the same standard that Christ even loved and forgave those who crucified Him.
You look at their positive qualities only and God will punish the lesser qualities.
>We all fall short to the Glory Of God


>Judge not, that ye be not judged.

>2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

>3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

>>521161381
>>521161042
This is you. Modern day christianity, a false antinomian Jesus who broke his fathers commandments, taught his followers to do the same, and its all about juss luuuv god maan, just believe, its faith alone, woaah its that free grace broooo we dont have to obey god, jesus set us free from his fathers laws.

Read Psalms by David to cleanse your brain from lawlessness

>The Law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the LORD is trustworthy, making wise the simple. 8The precepts of the LORD are right, bringing joy to the heart; the commandments of the LORD are radiant, giving light to the eyes.…

Do you believe in Zeus coming down to Earth as a bull or as a swan and impregnating women? So why do you believe in God impregnating Mary?

Christianity is retarded.

But not only is Christianity retarded, but it's a disgusting faggot religion.

Did you know in Judaism, women don't even count in a quorum for prayer?

Whenever I think of Christianity, I think of an acquaintance whose wife had chlamydia LOL. What a shit cuck religion.

>>521161381
>2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
>3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
>4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
>5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
>6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Jesus fulfilled the OT laws.

>3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
>4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

>3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
>4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

>>521150862 (OP)
TwoWitnessesofRevelation.com

Imagine giving confession to a priest who gave and took it in the ass in seminary.

Christianity is retarded.

Inb4 interfaith dialogue,.guys this is 4chan, I can tell you the truth here.

>>521157661
fuck your non omnipotent child raping god

>>521150942

Catholic Target are the lowest scum of society like mexicans and irish, go mormón if you are Upper high fag

1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. 3For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

7Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? 8This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you. 9A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. 10I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be. 11And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased. 12I would they were even cut off which trouble you.

13For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. 14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

>14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
>14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

>>14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word
>>14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word

>>521161664
Paul literally circumcised Timothy, Paul told us to uphold the law, Paul observed the sabbath.
Paul took a nazarite vow to prove he was not teachings against the law of moses

https://youtu.be/VuW0tA5Ydls?t=701

>1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

>2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
>3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
>4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
>5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
>6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

>13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
>14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
>15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

>14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.
>14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

>14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word
>14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word

JESUS
FULFILLED
THE
OT
LAWS

>>521162389
Fulfilled means bring the laws to its fullest meaning. It does not mean abolish.

The Fulfillment of the Law

17Do not think that I have come to ------abolish the Law or the Prophets.-------- I have ----NOT come to abolish them------, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, -----until heaven and earth pass away----, ----not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law------- until everything is accomplished.

19So then, whoever breaks one of -------the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven;------- but whoever practices and teaches them will be -------called great in the kingdom of heaven.--------

>>521161033
Those differences are what makes us human and are inherently valuable imo, they definetly aren't a bad thing but from a christian perspective its moral relativism when you say these differences also mean that our spirituality is somewhat different allthough there ofcourse exists many many commonalities
>many species of spirit
But you just said that all humans are united in spirit which heavily implies otherwise?
>You know it’s true, too
Its not though, world is endlessly beautiful and god wouldn't have created it if its purpose was to be a piece of trash, maybe its arrogant of me to assume that but its not logical for a benevolent god to do that
>The world is sick, and you know it. Why pretend otherwise?
Because I have hope for it to be better and that its not a piece of trash, world is amazing even though there is a lot of darkness there too but there cant be light without some darkness either
>Yes. No saving the world, but there is a way in saving souls. Souls dont belong to the world. But to God.
Then you would just kill yourself if you weren't ordered not to in the bible? I dont believe in this type of defeatism at all, when I was in the military one of my direct commanders said he wouldn't give up even if a missile dropped on every square centimeter of finnish clay and I agree with him, this kind of defeatism is for pussies and god wouldn't create a world like that anyways, thats what I believe

>>521162635
>until everything is accomplished.
and Jesus accomplish everything.

>>521152585
Are you actually a JW on pol counting service time? An exjw? Or just a larper?

If you are actually a JW please seek help. You are in a brain dead death cult that does nothing but celebrate mediocrity.

Your beliefs are not just childish but actively contradictory, and your leadership has shifted from a once wrong and uniformed publishing company to a harmful and malicious real estate company.

I sincerely want the best for you morons, as I know what it’s like to have your parents do their best to handicap your entire life trajectory. Get out now.

>>521162635
>until everything is accomplished.

28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

>>521163124
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst

Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished
Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished
Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished
Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished

>>521156626
>is no longer
never was

>>521163065
Heaven and earth has not passed away, and Revelation has not fully unfolded yet

>>521163215
>until everything is accomplished.
>until everything is accomplished
>until everything is accomplished
Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst

>>521150862 (OP)
Protestant is better, but it all stinks

>>521163065
Jesus kept the law
Peter kept the law
Paul kept the law

Acts 21:23
Take these men, purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know that there is no truth to these rumors about you, but that ---------------------you also live in obedience to the LAW.---------

>>521162635
Commandments are the original 10 Commandments from Mount Sinai .
The laws are the Deuterocanonical laws were one day just found lying in the Temple in 600BC when they were renovating.
They are two very different things. The later will not be changed, but it holds no authority, especially after the OT is superseded by the New Covenant directed by Christ

>>521162767
>Those differences are what makes us human and are inherently valuable imo, they definitely aren't a bad thing but from a christian perspective its moral relativism when you say these differences also mean that our spirituality is somewhat different allthough there ofcourse exists many many commonalities.

And I agree, the differences are valuable and that is why globohomo is anti-christian in the sense that world powers try to play God and artificially move people from one nation to another for profit. It ruins the nation they are sent to, and it ruins the nation they come from since it depleted them of a workforce that could have built their own country out of ruin.

>You just said all humans are united in spirit.
Yes, and although our spiritual constitutions differ we are united in we share the same water, the same life. I speak of God, without God we all would not be. Think of two brothers who have the opposite personalities, they are different spirits, but are one in the same lineage, the same father they have. That is what I mean.

>World is endlessly beautiful.
I do not mean the Earth. I speak of the world. The world is what we have built on the Earth. The Earth is good, the world is wicked. The social enterprise, modern civilization, the entire rat-race.

>I have hope for it to be better
It won't. It's been going downhill more and more. For reasons you already know I am sure you are aware of many of them.

>Defeatism
It is not defeatism it is the opposite. It is the declaration that although the world will die the spirit endures. That you can find happiness and peace and love without the world, you find it in spirit.

>>521163283
Lawless subhuman. Jesus will say "depart from me, you who work LAWLESSNESS"

>>521161616
Thats definetly not for me, if you love everything like that then love loses its meaning, there is some serious exlusivity to my love
>Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Thats dumb, I want people around me to judge me if I act like an asshole and I will judge them if they act like an asshole

>>521163386
>until everything is accomplished.
>until everything is accomplished
>until everything is accomplished
Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst

>>521157748
It’s truly hilarious to me that there is someone promoting JW beliefs here. That religion becomes more of a joke every day.
I bet you comment your “positive experiences” during the watchtower study framing them as people showing interest but never admit it’s actually from a literally retarded image board.

JW’s are on the same level as jeets when it comes to critical thinking.

>>521163432
>until everything is accomplished.
>until everything is accomplished
>until everything is accomplished
Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst

>>521163283
Matthew and Luke recoed different endings

>>521163198
Maybe not 100% but you'd be lying if you said not at all, back in like circa 1200 christendom meant just Europe and every christian philosopher and theologian who was relevant was european

>>521163415
Jesus Christ kept the LAW perfectly, he did not come to abolish the law, he said those who teaches anyone to break the smallest law will be the smallest in the Kingdom, and those who teach and practice the laws will be greatest.

Anyone who teaches against the laws would be considered a false prophet and put to death. The apostles are teaching "old testament" laws. Not eating blood is deuteronomy. The apostles preached in the synagogue every sabbath. The apostles kept the feasts. The apostles did not eat unclean animals.

>>521163599
and in
John 19:28
Jesus said it was finished

>>521163648
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst
>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst

>>521163698
Yeah, he's recorded saying different words in Luke and Matthew

>>521163454
Love is pure and does not work like other measurements such as 'respect'.
If you Love but it is corrupted with Lust, it is a sin.
If you Love but not at the purest sense it is flattery.

God is the source of Truth and Love.

Judgement leads to pride. Pride leads to the fall.
Humility and forgiveness are the paths to The Kingdom.

>>521163740
What laws did he change after it were accomplished?

>>521150942
Of course Catholics are Christian.

Christian:
Catholic
Orthodox
Protestant

NOT Christian
Mormon
Jehovas Witness

>>521157880
Do you still believe the UN will put it into the hearts of “the nations” to ban all religion lmao.

Do you believe that Babylon was destroyed in 607?

Do you believe there was a literal flood of the entire planet that killed everything except 8 people and whatever animals he could fit in his apparently seaworthy box 5 thousand years ago?

Do you believe the overlapping generation teaching? How much time you got left in that like 15 years tops? It’s been the “last seconds” of the last days since 1914.

Do you truly believe the only way to fix some woman eating a “forbidden” fruit was to literally have your own son murdered? What does that say about morality and free will?

I hate JW’s so much, not because they are bad people, but because they are so fucking retarded.

>>521163740
Dumb faggot. Which laws did he change after the cross? Retard faggot

>>521163756
its the reason that we Christians believe in the NEW COVENANT
not the old one
Jesus's death was
>>28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst

>>521150862 (OP)
Bible, Koine Greek and Hebrew for meanings (use AI for fast help). Then, take it verse by verse. Traps will feel insignificant. Look up meanings for the names of the books to help you find what you need.
>>521150942
fpbp but Protestants are not named directly in the Bible, any of them so don't ever think they're a tangible thing that exists.

>>521151148
Kikes are the voices pushing Paganism or anything anti Christian. Kikes hate Christianity more than anything else.

>>521163868
>>521163915
again
as Paul said.

>2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
>3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
>4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
>5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
>6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Jesus fulfilled the OT laws.

>>521163931
But he said nothing will change the law until heaven and earth passed away.

Has that happened yet?
>Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled
Written by an anonymous author decades later.

>>521150862 (OP)
Orthodox - remained the same after the Great Schism of 1054
Charlemagne introduced Filioque despite the pope admitting the Nicene Creed without Filoque to be the correct one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNCBJ5Wu44

>>521164024
>Jesus fulfilled the OT laws.
Then why is eating blood still forbidden in acts 15? Not eating blood is from deuteronomy, FAGGOT

>>521150862 (OP)
Go in your closet and pray. Churches are for satanic faggots.

>>521163915
Also we
DON'T SACRIFICE ANIMALS ANYMORE FOR SALVATION
WE DON'T FOLLOW THE OLD COVENANT LAWS

>>521150862 (OP)
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever!

>>521164024
What's funny is that he then goes and circumcised Timothy to get in with his old Pharisee pals

no difference, they're both cucks who larp as jews. rabbi yeshua bar yusuf al nazreeths original message was that all non-jews can fuck off and die, but this was gradually corrupted by early investors who saw the pagan market as a great way to expand and get 10% tithes from millions more people. lol, america is still paying 10% of your taxes to israel today.

>>521152585
Jehovas witness are good people but NOT Christian.

>>521164128
Thank God, I'll finally get some peace and quiet.

>>521164124
Sacrificial law is the only law that changed since Jesus is the sinless lamb who died for our sins. Animals could never remove sins to begin with.
>>521164024
Pork eaters and mice eaters will die when Jesus returns, and the sabbath will be kept in the kingdom of God. ISAIAH 66 PROPHECY

DAILY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever!

>>521164217
There is no god moron

>>521163454
Concerning love, the proper Christian attitude to love is that love is not a feeling. Love is not a thought either. What love is, it's a choice. Love can involve many feelings, or none at all, but what matters is the action and expression of love, and in order to enact love or the expression it requires a choice.
You do not need to have fuzzy warm feelings for someone in order to choose to love them. Sometimes making that choice is difficult without the feelings. Sometimes it becomes impossible if you have feelings of anger or contempt blocking the choice. But at the end of it all, it's a choice.

Do not think that those who claim to 'feel' lots of feelings about love are loving people. And do not think those who lack the feelings are incapable of great acts of love.

You will and may have already met people who had high 'empathy' and were sensitive to the feelings of love, yet chose to show wickedness instead. You will and have already met those who had low empathy and no feelings of love or warmth yet have done in their actions great actions of love for either you or people besides themselves.

This is because love is a choice.

>>521164220
>I can pick and choose what laws changed and what laws didn't
fuck you

>>521164190
from an outside perspective, they really are the only denomination that follows your cuck book properly. maybe you should read revelation and find out how many of you pseudo kikes are actually going to heaven. jehova fags can read, at least.

>>521162389
>muh man-made rules bro
you mean people are not arguing whether or not he came back from the dead and broke the laws of nature and physics? okay lol this is dumb.
>guy came back from the dead
no forget it, lets look through documents and see what dirt we can dig up on the guy.

What convinces me that He did come back from the dead is this. He is still pissing people off, like a troll. I can go way away from Christianity then loe and behold, someone is seething about Christ and I am reminded that He does exist. He makes people seethe, fume, i admire that.

>>521156542
Nobody believes that. Even christians admit that it's the best approximation we have because YHWH is beyond comprehension

>>521164273
schizo babble, fits perfectly with the new testament
obviously christians have no idea what love actually is

>>521151148
I don't think I ever truly understood the meaning of generational trauma before realizing how strongly it applies to Christianity.
Their ancestors long ago were forced under threat of murder to forsake their native culture and religion, and replace it with the worship of a psychotic jewish cult leader who called non-jews dogs.
To keep the farce going they tell their children that their own race's gods are actually demons (not the baby murdering, foreskin eating, tribal god of the Jews though), and that if they don't apologize to their Jewish master for the crime of being born naturally evil, that their Jewish master will throw them into a pit of fire.
Literally just generational child abuse and brainwashing for centuries.
What a spiritual broken people, completely transformed into jew-worshipping goy cattle.

>>521164468
Go ahead and define and articulate love

>>521164105
>flag
Wait are you legit a Muslim?
There are no major Christian denominations that have strict dietry laws.
Are they all wrong and you are the only one is right?
Through out the Book Of Acts and other books there are a couple major contradictory arguments between Paul, Peter and James in the early church such as
>circumcision
>faith by acts or faith alone
etc

>Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat,
>Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat,

I'm still waiting for your argument regarding this verse.

>>521164468
>schizo babble, fits perfectly with the new testament obviously christians have no idea what love actually is.

No, it's the truth. If you base your love on feelings then your love will always have an expiry date. Your love will always cease the minute someone fails you, the first moment you anger someone or they anger you, all your valuable 'love' gets thrown out the window.

>>521164264
We are all created in the image of God and the Kingdom of Heaven is within us

>>521150862 (OP)
neither here is why: neither of them will tell you the Gospel which is the whole point to the faith. Catholics took over the religion as the authority above God's Word through the popes. The protestants tried to reform it and failed. The failed becuase like Jesus said, reformation isn't possible. That is why Jesus abandoned Judaism in favor of rebuilding it via the church.

Demons are like yeast, once a little yeast gets in your dough the entire loaf is leavened.

>>521164667
Meds. None of those things exist.

>>521164273
Nicely said, Bong.

>>521150862 (OP)
Just believe the gospel, ignore the denomination shit right now.

1 Cor 15 1-4

>>521164432
I can tell the real followers of Jesus vs the fake ones, who are of the synagogue of satan
the synagogue of Satan believes heavily in the OT
where the real followers of Jesus believe that Jesus fulfilled the OT laws.

>>521155071
Who’s to say what is good vs bad without a moral framework?
Are you Hindu?

Go to Jesus.

>>521164642
It means don't worry about what clothes to wear, where you will find shelter, or how will you be provided with food, God will provide all these things. You must have no discernment if you think it tells you its okey to eat pork.

Matthew 6:25-33
King James Version

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Look at that no shootings and smart americans can vote with their best interests in mind

>>521164738
What if those things are the only things that do exist and everything you believe exists is nothing more than a fever dream?

>>521164823
It truely is better to live by grace and gratitude instead of law

>>521150862 (OP)
create your own. all churches are cucked. maybe some underground ones are based, but all mainstream churches are definitely morally corrupt

>>521164642
>>Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat,

For more context
>Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
This is emphasizing that life is of greater value than food and the body than clothing, urging trust in God's provision rather than anxiety over basic needs.

>>521150862 (OP)
Orthodox. Only if you aren't a shitskin. Then try Catholics. They accept everyone.

>>521155341
Because that's what catholics do

>>521164969
My church is in my closet.

>>521164667
Based.

>>521164968
Grace enables you to keep the law out of gratitude to God, and you are expected to do so.

The definition of sin is TRANSGRESSION of the LAW.

You are either a slave to sin (breaking torah), or a slave to obedience to torah which is righteousness.

1 John 3:4
Everyone who practices sin practices lawlessness as well. Indeed, sin is lawlessness.

>>521165040
I'm not a Catholic or any form of Christianity

>>521164823
Did Jesus tell you to stop killing animals? No.
And yet, you don't do it.
You are a fucking demon.
You want us to believe all the other OT bullshit is still a go. Yet you yourself don't kill animals anymore, like the orthodox jews still do.
Show me a video of your church sacrificing animals for salvation.
You cant.

>>521160728
Its when you attack a misrepresented or exaggerated version of your opponent's argument or belief. You should read the article I posted a link to here :)
>>521157939

>>521150862 (OP)
Protestantism understands the Bible and Christ's teachings. Catholicism is just pagan judaism

>>521163907
>Do you still believe the UN will put it into the hearts of “the nations” to ban all religion lmao.

No. God will put it in their hearts himself. The UN will "come to life" and execute all false religion.

>Do you believe that Babylon was destroyed in 607?

Yes

>Do you believe there was a literal flood of the entire planet that killed everything except 8 people and whatever animals he could fit in his apparently seaworthy box 5 thousand years ago?

Yes

>Do you believe the overlapping generation teaching? How much time you got left in that like 15 years tops? It’s been the “last seconds” of the last days since 1914.

It's not that I believe it or don't It's that I don't care. This doesn't affect me.

>Do you truly believe the only way to fix some woman eating a “forbidden” fruit was to literally have your own son murdered? What does that say about morality and free will?

Loaded question

>>521165193
Mormons believe Jesus Christ and Satan are brothers.

>>521163845
Pride can be both positive and negative, I for example respect people a lot who take pride in their work and do it with precision and care just because thats their thing. Pride is only bad if its unearned
>>521164273
This is one of the reasons its so hard to understand christians, they have completely different meanings to words from the dictionary meaning, even the bible is full of stuff thats supposed to be read from between the lines, to me thats kind of annoying desu. Doing benevolent deeds doesn't require any love at all imo, I dragged my neighbors car from the ditch during super icy weather using my own car and it had nothing to do with love, it was just common decency

>>521165163
Hebrews tells you Jesus is the sinless lamb who take the sins of the world away, doing what animal sacrifice couldnt do.

>>521156626
>christianity is no longer a white peoples
This is so stupid. Like back then, paganism should have been preserved, but now it turns out that the supposed Greek heroes, gods, and stories are fictional characters and inventions (or demons—in short, 99% of it is just crap, except for Abrahamism), but the Jewish exodus and Jewish heroes, mythical stories—they are true. Paul truly was a great agent, it's crazy. Just think about it: Christians seriously believe in the exodus and the staffs that turned into snakes, the parting of the sea, and so on, but do they believe that Asclepius resurrected people?

>>521150862 (OP)
If you want bells and whistles and art, catholic
If you hate jews, protestant

>>521165288
The bible clearly defines Gods family is completely separated from Satan's children due to the rebellion.

>>521164585
Things and people that you love you are willing to put yourself in harms way for to protect, thats a pretty easy definition

>>521165193
and you haven't figure out that Mormons don't believe Native Americans are of Asian descent?

>>521165367
and?
Jesus didn't tell you to stop.

>>521164432
Sounds like a demon

>>521165393
All memeflags are jews until proven to be indians

REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever

>>521165334
I respect people who work with precision and care and are humble about it.
There is always a fall with pride. Always.
Pride makes you puffed up, and when you encounter another with pride things escalate and sometimes to violence. Unless someone de-escalates and shows humility. In the material world this is seen as defeat, in God's eyes you will be rewarded in secret.

Humility does not mean working hard.
It means working hard and avoid taking credit. Doing it to bring Heaven to Earth.

>>521165334
>This is one of the reasons its so hard to understand christians, they have completely different meanings to words from the dictionary meaning
Ha, that's true. You're not wrong. Because Christianity teaches you to think with your spirit. You mentioned a complaint against the idea of black priests being a spiritual leader to white men earlier, for example.

In your mind, leader means ruler. Right? Someone who is of a higher position who bosses others around? In Christian theology, to be a leader means to be a servant. A good leader serves the people, a corrupt one expects people to give over power. Good leaders give power to people, bad ones force people to abandon their own power. So yes you are right, you may have to unlearn worldly ideas if you wish to witness spiritual truth.

>Doing benevolent deeds doesn't require any love at all imo, I dragged my neighbors car from the ditch during super icy weather using my own car and it had nothing to do with love, it was just common decency.

What you did was an act of love. That 'common decency' was an act of love, one you chose without the feelings of love, but you knew it was the loving thing to do. So you did it. Thats exactly what I mean, choosing love even though you don't feel the emotions of it. Because love is a choice.

>>521150862 (OP)
Protestants do not have a lineage to the Apostles. Peter was charged by Jesus with earthly authority over the Church, thus becoming the first Pope. This passed to Linus when Peter was crucified by Romans, thus Pope Linus was the second Pope. There is an unbroken line of Popes through to Pope Leo today, leading the Church Christ established.

Look up Shameless Popery on YouTube for a lot of very well crafted arguments.

>>521150942
We follow Christ, and remain obedient to the earthly authority he founded to govern his Church.

>>521151067
Protestants are Christians, just very confused Christians. Mormons and JWs aren't Christians because they deny the Trinity.

>>521165367
Why do you believe one OT law is fulled and the others aren't?
When Jesus didn't tell you to stop killing animals.

>>521150862 (OP)
Protestants only read the bible
Catholics read the bible and live the bible
Orthodox read the bible,live the bible and hates the jews

Hope this helped

>>521165759
Again there is nothing that said you should stop killing animals. Other than Jesus fulfilling the old laws. Which you believe Jesus didn't do.

>>521150862 (OP)
Find a lutheran church in a poorer asian/mexican area

15 MINUTE REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever!

>>521165855
>Catholics read the bible and live the bible according to how to pope interprets the bible for them*
fixed

>>521150862 (OP)
Catholic, adventistas are just another american psyop.

>>521151493
Based take.

Religion cucks are insufferable.

>oh muh Old Testament is replaced with the new! You can’t take it literally.

Jesus Christ explicitly validated the entirety of the fucked up old law and expands on it verbatim in Matthew. Literally the first book of the New Testament if any of you faggots ever read it. The delusion required to follow any religion, especially abrahamic ones, is insane. You people are all playing pretend. It’s exactly the same as all of the other made up ideologies. The sole purpose is to control and tax you more.

>>521165855
topkek no. Welcome to life.

>>521150862 (OP)
Nothing.

>>521165919

i disagree, i think there are dmt beings. but Christianity is fucking gay and cucked and jewish. really? worshipping a dead jew? clearly a psyop. romans knew what was up. white people need to reconnect with higher beings through first hand experience

>>521155209
Based. That's good shit. They also used to take daughters for "nuns" and people just never saw them again. Ye olde traffickers

>>521164349
Do you believe that because they told you that? Their dumbass religion was originally based on pyramidology and followed by countless wrong end of days predictions. They only mainly read the parts of the bible they like and create a narrative from those 8 books. The rest of the bible they cherry pick from to support the narrative.

All religion is retarded, but JW’s are on another level, almost as retarded as mormons.

>>521166057
Maybe the earth worshippers and pagans had a point…

Makes sense why (((they))) wanted to snuff them out with a million shitty copies of the same religion. Can’t monetize the worship and appreciation of what’s naturally around you.

>>521165952
All abrahamic religion is a Jewish psyop retard. All eastern religion is a chink psyop. All African religion is nigger cope.

Wake up.

>>521165688
Checked, why should people be humble about something they spent countless hours perfecting their skills for?
>There is always a fall with pride. Always.
See this is why there are entire books calling your way of looking at the world as slave mentality, there is nothing wrong in taking pride in achievement
>Pride makes you puffed up, and when you encounter another with pride things escalate and sometimes to violence
More like mutual respect, if you are a master at whatever it is you do then you can respect others who have taken the time to hone their skills to the same degree in whichever field they use their time on, showing humility when you dont need to is groveling, nobody respects that
>>521165705
Good leaders dont have to boss anybody around but yeah obviously a priest is in a position of spiritual authority over you since thats what he has dedicated himself to and is appointed by an institution to be in that position, christians literally call priests father and a father is obviously in a position of authority over his children
>In Christian theology, to be a leader means to be a servant
I wouldn't necessarily use the term servant myself unless its a servant to some spesific cause, thats what a leader does, he puts the mission above his own ego
>A good leader serves the people, a corrupt one expects people to give over power
Actually both need to be the case, a good leader has to expect people to trust him to do whats best to achieve the mission regardless of their personal desires, you cant have an indecisive leaders if you want to achieve stuff. For example Jesus wasn't asking his followers what he should do, he didn't give them the power to start changing his mission, they had to follow his plan

>>521165254
The UN itself? Like the UN will form some type of international army? Is this a new belief? Does this honestly seem like something remotely possible?

Then you state you believe two demonstrably false things.

And then you don’t care about constant failed prophecy/changing teachings.

And refuse to engage with what is an obvious dagger to any reasonable person’s morality.

Are you a pioneer?

>>521165254

>Do you believe there was a literal flood of the entire planet that killed everything except 8 people and whatever animals he could fit in his apparently seaworthy box 5 thousand years ago?

>Yes

Christcucks who don’t understand day one biology and believe with their whole heart in a perverted, modernized, Jewish religion never cease to amaze me. Shine on you crazy moron. Don’t forget to give 10% of your shekels to (((them)))!

>>521166612
>obviously a priest is in a position of spiritual authority over you since thats what he has dedicated himself to and is appointed by an institution to be in that position, christians literally call priests father and a father is obviously in a position of authority over his children.

Fathers serve their children first and foremost anon, thats what fatherhood is about. Providing for them is an act of service. Protecting them is an act of service. Guiding them and mentoring them is an act of service.

>>521150862 (OP)
You're not Christian if you go to church, nice try kike

>>521165288
Strawman again :)

>>521165855
>Catholics read the bible and live the bible
really?
>5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
>6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
>7 Where unto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

>5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
>5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
>5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
>5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Catholics believe saints are sub-mediators, and they ask saints to pray for them. Which is nonsense.

>>521166612
>Checked, why should people be humble about something they spent countless hours perfecting their skills for?
A friend of mine is a blacksmith, a very humble and young blacksmith who is very respected in this small circle trade. There are rich blacksmith who are loud and puffed up and also make great works of art but are virtually isolated and alone in their pride. My softspoken friend is the one who is invited to lecture and gatherings. This is just 1 example but I'm sure you can use your imagination to other scenarios. He does great work, it speaks for itself and others are actually attracted to him personally because of his personality, AND can learn off him too.

>More like mutual respect, if you are a master at whatever it is you do then you can respect others who have taken the time to hone their skills to the same degree in whichever field they use their time on, showing humility when you dont need to is groveling, nobody respects that

Christ was the Master and the Greatest teacher. After washing his disciples feet (showing humility) he expects everyone to do the same to each other, seeing as He (the master) has done so to others. This act produces even more respectability and is the reason why His name and acts are perfect and known and respected globally.

Jesus's Kingdom is not of this world, that why it goes against The Way Of Men, and Men, being corruptible, are not perfect and their ways alone are not perfect.
Christ is the Example and the Aim.
The Life, The Truth & The Way.

>>521168065
Matthew 5:17

Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.

That’s Jesus Christ on the topic of “Is the Old Testament valid or not?”

So which one is it, faggot? Is Jesus and the New Testament wrong? Or is everything in the Old Testament right including the child fucking, kid killing, and all the fun shit in Leviticus?

>>521164090

This, far too many innovations in the catholic church. Innovation is not in itself bad, but should be done lightly. Like Orthodox have changed since the schism, but mostly priest/bishop garments and colours.

Liturgy so minor changes, but still John Chrysostom liturgy is most used. He even based his liturgy on one of the earliest liturgies used by the first Christians.

Orthodox church should fix their calendar tho. It sadly does not always align pascha right in accordance with the ecumenical councils. Since it's both lunar and solar, and the Julian calendar is off by 13 days.

>>521167786
>Strawman again :)

That’s not a strawman :) That is literal Mormon theology :) Maybe try studying your own denominations teachings more :)

>>521168393
We don't sacrifice animals anymore now do we?
If you believe that we don't need to anymore, you believe Jesus fulfilled the OT.
The jews still kill animals, since they don't believe in the NT.
So which way.

>>521150862 (OP)
Didnt you decide the same thing a few weeks ago?

>>521168393
>Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Begone Devil, legal accuser. You do not seek truth but rather to sow discord. Rather amuse me and state your god.

>>521164017
I hate christianity too. Based kikes.

>>521168822
It really isn't brother. Did you read the article I linked? Or are you still going of off what you learnt watching a protestant anti-mormon cartoon from the 80s? Can you at least show me in LDS canon where Lucifer is the brother of Jesus? Didn't think so

>>521168833
Yeah and priests still fuck kids, you retards believe in Noah’s physics and reality defying inbred ark, and christiofaggots still hate gays.

That’s all OT retard.

>>521169115

Kek of course the brainwashed monkey can’t handle his own text being quoted since he hasn’t read it.

I’m an ex non-denom Christian, retard. Read the bible and you might be, too, if you have a brain.

>>521169418
I didn't ask what you were
State your god. What is your highest value?

>inb4 'myself'
>inb4 LARPagan
>inb4 fedora

>>521151566
women are subverters

>>521169727
Yuropean womin

>>521150942
This
>pay money to me to go to heaven after death, goy!

>>521169579
My highest value is exactly the same one Jesus had.

“Love your neighbor as thyself.”

If you followed that thought, and critically pick and analyze the good things to come from religion, we wouldn’t be here because you wouldn’t be retarded enough to take abrahamic religion fed to you by (((them))) at face value.

>>521168822
It is a strawman. Satan is not Jesus' brother in LDS canon.

>>521170179
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Jesus_Christ/Brother_of_Satan#Question:_Do_Latter-day_Saints_consider_Jesus_to_be_the_brother_of_Satan?

They admit it.

>Jesus, Satan, and all humanity share God the Father as their spiritual sire.

If Jesus and Satan share the same spiritual father, they are spiritual brothers according to LDS :)

Not a strawman :)

From your own denomination’s beliefs :)

>>521150862 (OP)
You're a mockery to yourself. Only a pathetic loser would treat Jewish comic book fantasies as reality. Go eat a foreskin for Yahweh.

>>521170424
All religion is retarded… but some religions are more retarded than others.

Fuckin’ kek. Gahtem.

>>521169840
Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.

These filthy Abrahamics and their desert cult wars have ruined life on Earth.

All Christians are agents of Zion and enemies of Europa

Abrahamism is THE scourge of the Earth.

>>521170840
>Abrahamism is THE scourge of the Earth.
>posts a guy living on welfare

>>521170840
>>521171082

Doesn’t make him any less based, or right.

>>521171082
Christians are inherently zionists.

Until you give up worship of a zombie ghost Jew rabbi;
you can never be anything but a puppet to someone who will manipulate your stupidity.

>>521171305
Your jedi mind tricks don't work here

>>521150862 (OP)
Which one does your closest direct relative go to? Go to that one. If it’s mainline Protestant you may need to try out Baptist or Pentecostal or something to go somewhere that’s not 99% retirees and liberal heretics. The younger your church members are, the less muh Israel is taken seriously.

Church shopping is gay. Becoming a Catholic because social climber online conservatives endorse it is turbo gay. Try to go with what your people have traditionally done.

>>521160272
>>521160451
And Heretics and Orthodoxy by Chesterton

>>521150862 (OP)
Read the Bible and go to Jesus Christ directly, He built his ekklesia (community, fellowship) on the confession that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God (Matthew 16:13-20; Mark 8:27-30; Luke 9:18-22).
Don't put your faith in humans and humanist institutions.

Any branch reads the Bible, so start with that.
From there / concurrently as you're doing so, try just going to a few churches around you and see if any feel right.
This includes different Catholic ones, as in don't just do "i tried one protestant and one catholic, hmm". There will likely be 5 different sect of protestant + 5 different Catholic (same sect, different priests). Also try Latin Mass. Maybe orthodoxy if there's one in your area.

Personally I can't in good faith suggest most protestant ones as you have stuff like the Anglican branch having gay female priests who want to take down crosses so Muslims feel more welcomed. And no I'm not exaggerating there.

Don't worry too much either way. You can always convert to another later if it doesn't capture your heart.
The major weakness inherent to protestantism, in my opinion, can be best summarized in this short exchange:
>>521153849
>>521154958
When interpretation of Scripture is left to the individual, you get a lot of differing opinions, most of them retarded. This is averted by having a magisterium / large collection of church fathers' opinions / debates on interpretations until one was collectively agreed upon.
But that's just my take. I don't have to live with your decision, you do.

Godspeed OP

>>521150862 (OP)

submit to Rabbi Jewzus by licking nigger feet!

(((Christ))) is King!

>>521170424
>they admit it
>didn't read the whole article
Given that LDS theology teaches that spirits have no beginning or end, what do you think "spiritual sire" means here? Again, strawman argument based on a poor understanding of basic LDS terminology.

>>521150862 (OP)
Why convert to a shabbos goy death cult whose god figure is a tranny long haired kike who called goyim dogs and diddled teenage boys in public gardens?

But if you're serious. First thing is donating 10% of your income to Israel

>>521166580
>All abrahamic religion is a Jewish psyop retard. All eastern religion is a chink psyop. All African religion is nigger cope.
>Wake up.


All memeflags are liars.

>>521174657
It’s a Jewish religion. None of it makes any sense. To argue its legitimacy is pointless because you’re literally reduced to mincing the words of the niggers in charge of the religion who will say anything for your money and mind.

>>521174859
>Chile

Your fake one is as much of a meme as mine is. Where does that leave us, anon?

>>521150862 (OP)
You dont need to find a specific denomination that only differs in its rituals.

Check out ; life.church on YouTube
Check out ; The Bible app on play store

Hope it helps anon

>>521150862 (OP)
Join CI groups on Gab.
https://gab.com/groups/31074

NEW

>>521178326
>>521178326
>>521178326

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>>521151148
>>521151067
>>521150942

>>521150862 (OP)
ORTHODOX!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjuRLqusN6w

>>521165855
Worst take in the thread catholics are huge hypocrites. Look at how they vote vs protestants
T convert

>>521150862 (OP)
lutheran /thread