Thread 521288458

how much do we think this shit will cost? i need a new PC cause mine cant run shit anymore
if its good value i might cop ngl

>>521288458 (OP)
>The world is healing

maybe we'll have the Trump War first, before things start to get better, after all you voted for this

>>521288458 (OP)
its a nothingburger
why would you buy this thing over a regular miniatx setup?
the real gamechanger is this

>>521288578
>What's in the box
Harvested foreskin from American goyim

>>521288458 (OP)
What's that?

>>521288644
Would not buy, but the rendering on this is peak

>>521288458 (OP)
>black cube
Oh boi

>>521288644
do you stick those in your bussy?

>>521288644
>just use VR goyim
>play in a virtual reality while we take control over the world
no. and no one is going to buy the VR it will flop like that steam link

>>521288458 (OP)
fuck... I thought it was some Islamic PC or something meaningful, but this is video game trash. I hope this thread dies fast

>>521288760
steam link didnt flop im using it on my headset and phone
>>521288694
i think they should have offered the translucent front prototype as default

>>521288849
>im using something, ergo it did not flop
ok

>>521288458 (OP)
What am I looking at?

Steam OS os cool and all and I like a lot of stuff they do but why would you choose to buy a less functional PC lacking in customization options, ports, and upgrade potential? Just get an actual PC and install stream os if you want to. Seems kinda like an akward middle ground between a console and an actual computer.

PC people cannot recreate the magic of console gaming. Sony is a dream/aspirational system with new features that have never been done. Nintendo is similar. This is a box. You could tell me it was Microsoft and I’d not disagree

>>521288458 (OP)
>its a black cube
Why would they make it an evil black cube, just seems untrustworthy.

>>521289055
the Kabaa

>>521289055
GamePube

To clarify, providing it's reasonably priced and not filled with proprietary custom components with poor to nonexistent compatibility with more wildly available components and no upgrade slots if they were to sell this as a steam machine kit at a discounted price and allow you to not be locked into the space limitations of their case and the limited port real estate then I'd be fine with it. If you want to bridge the gap and be both a computer and a console you need to offer the computer options as well as the console ones.
>>521289356
Not sure if actual corprate shill, an attempt at engagement using reverse psychology, or just retarded but regardless you sound like a fag.

>>521288458 (OP)
Sorry bitch not today

what's the difference between this and any prebuilt pc?

>>521288458 (OP)
>no hl3
>just hardware

Disregard some of that, i suck cocks. Juat looked at the specs, 4 usb a ports is pretty respectable. Could use an additional usb c port though. The custom architecture is what i was afraid of though and spells trouble for compatability of components. Might have a place if the price point is competitive enough though.

Gaben has his marching orders from the WEF - kill the ATX tower, slowly boil the frog and reduce upgradability. Soldered CPU and GPU, you can change your RAM (for now) and you can treat yourself to an SSD upgrade goy! Not for long, only until they tell you latency and reliability is too low with unsoldered parts. The goyim cheer as Gaben hands them a Saturnian cube.

>>521288458 (OP)
politics?
also,
>still being a console cuck in 2000+25
lmao

>>521288458 (OP)
Cool nice Nintendo is brining back the GameCube

>>521288644
>tf
>why would you buy

>>521288458 (OP)
>black cube
...

>>521290748
soldered ram
soldered gpu
soldered gpu
atleast the framework one has pci exposed

>>521290079
It's not running windows by default so normies will see it more as a toy and a console rather than as a productivity tool since microsoft programs like word, excel, and powerpoint and even their file formats have become industry standard and most people don't know or care to use open source alternatives even as microsoft is increasingly attempting to move towards the apple walled garden approch and making their tools increasingly difficult to use outside their own operating environment and broader ecosystem. Seems like thats kind of the point though and they want to introduce the masses to an out of the box linux pc and that's why it's such a shame the thing isn't really upgradable. Weakening microsoft and apples stranglehold could be very good for the landscape. I don't like bloatware and bare bones installs but an option on first boot to install productivity tools like libreoffice introducing people to the fact their are other options would be kinda neat too.

What's the point when all the games in the 2020s are faggot shit?

>>521288506
All the important shit will be soldered like the steam deck.
You are stuck with 16GB RAM that is permanently shared with the GPU.
They will also claim they use a custom BGA so no one will even attempt changing the APU to any other stronger FP6 BGA chip as people lack the equipment to verify the contact points.
Which they also did with the steam deck.

Gaben copied Nvidia Xavier AGX

They tried steam machines over a decade ago. They ended up on clearance in the Walmart electronics department.

>>521288644
I don't know if its enough for me to upgrade from the Quest 3.

>>521288849
>>521288760
Steam links biggest issue was the damn fast ethernet port.
You make a device to stream your game in you local network and only include bad wireless and an even at that point obsolete network standard that barely is enough for painters.
If it at least had gigabit network, but no only fast ethernet.
So you can chose between shit bandwidth or horrible latency.

>>521291081
You can just desolder those things, like how you replace peoples pagers with bombs.

>>521288458 (OP)
No it isn't. it's batista bombing into WW3

>>521291283
hardware wise its a sidegrade (no depth, no color passthough, better gpu)
the real gamechanger on the frame is the software which we wont know if its good until it launches
>>521291385
idk i just use it on normal wifi5

I don't get how you can spend hours every day doing this shit, going for a walk is so much more interesting than playing stupid video games. You faggs suck balls forever.

>>521292312
Cant. Vidya is the only thing that makes me feel remotely accomplished in life.

>>521292129
Depends on how much interference you have.
If you have your own house with some distance to you neighbour you will already have only 10% or less the interference than most people.

>>521288506
Around 800 I bet. Maybe more

>>521292351
why? It's not real. Get into bicycle riding or hiking, go to the gym, get outside and do something, look at bugs, idk

>>521292440
The cube or the VR set?

>>521288506
IT can't cost more then 400 / 425, it's all bad yields amd parts, it's a cut down rx 7600 gpu because of bad yields from factory and same for fhe zen 4 cpu that were ment to be 8 cores but are bad yield dies cut to 6 cores.

The ram is not soldered it's SODIMM replaçable and upgradable.

The gpu is 8 gb of ram wich is a bit on the low end unfortunately.

I don't see steam trying to sell the BASE unit more then 425 / 440 $ it would be stupid.

>>521292507
>get outside
Can't. Its getting cold outside and there are minorities.
>go to the gym
Cant. I have a DDR mat.

>>521292528
Basically, having a deal with steam to try to resell unsold / bad yield parts at a discount price to empty amd's inventory.

Give me a break about trying to make us believe this cost more then 300$ to put together.

As long as this thing is under 600 and can run GTA 6 I can see it doing quite well.

>>521288458 (OP)
God bless video game man and his boats. May Allah strike down William Gates for his evil creation

>>521292528
They sell the steam deck with only soldered parts a low res lcd and 256GB for more than 400.
Yeah sure they will be that cheap.

>>521288644
Can't wait to try Rollercauster 2 on VR

>>521288458 (OP)
Im willing to be that the inside is a cheap mini ITX motherboard and CPU with onboard graphics

>>521288458 (OP)
>i heckin love games
>i heckin love linux (when gaben makes it)
>i heckin love consoles (when gaben makes them)
Is there anything more tragic than the life of a gamer?

>>521292741
The Steam Deck is selling at a loss for Valve due to current RAM prices.

>>521288458 (OP)
I have the original HTC vive. Ive been holding out for the frame. Is this going to be a worthwhile upgrade for PCVR or should i just go with a PiMax?

>>521288644
>the real gamechanger is this
Nice try gabben, VR is and will remain a super niche market, now buy a fucking ad for your overpriced and overmonetized crap you cheap bastard.
>>521291283
>They tried steam machines over a decade ago.
I'm glad somebody around 4chan is old enough to remember that this is little more than a brand refresh.

>>521292528
This will be good only as a mini pc that can play some games. Not a gaming machine.

>>521292548
go to a dojo, go to a massage parlor, go to a gun range, go somewhere where there's women

>>521292795
the life of a poorfag gamer (i cant afford any of that shit)

>>521292876
>go to a massage parlor
I make content about my experiences at tuggy parlors. Women? I can be at home as my wife is a wonderful woman.

>>521288458 (OP)
The future is Gabe cube

>>521291283
Steam machines were produced by other companies that valve supported steamos for, kinda like the chrome os model

>>521292795
Idk I don't give a fuck about all of this. I make my setup every 10 years for ~1000€.
Carefuly selecting cheap, reliable, low consumption parts.
Now I can run modern slop which I don't need with a ridiculous electric bill while retards are complaining because they buy high end trash with high consumption, high heat.
The free market is like democracy, you get what you deserve. Unfortunatly most people are retarded consoomer.

>>521288458 (OP)
16GB RAM is ridiculously little for Q4 2025, and it's almost certainly soldered down. This is disposable shit.

>>521288644

It's time we get proper foveated render on pc games, and i bet that with your jewish plan of destroying the world of competent devs and firing anyone with a modicum of talent from all industries, we will have incredibly well made VR games that exploit the full potential of gpu saving ressources with foveated rendering right ? right ? right ?

Fuck off and thanks for nothing assholes.

>>521288644
>why would you buy this thing over a regular miniatx setup?
To play goat simulator kike

>>521292408
largely irrelevant with 5ghz and 6 ghz

>>521292870
flat gaming is a niche, vr is the mainstream

Now is a great time to INVEST in Valve shares. Sony and Nintendo are finished.

>>521293333
>private company

>8 gb vram
lol
lmao
they're essentially selling a xbox series S, but in PC form, for double the price, and you GOYIM eat it up. enjoy your peasantcube

>>521288458 (OP)
>The world is healing
>USB Type-A

>>521291190
No, they said ram is upgradable.

>>521288458 (OP)
Can I buy physical games? Does it need an internet connection to run?

>>521293606
Oof. We gotta fast forward to 2025.

>>521293771
Its 2025
Yes.

>>521288458 (OP)
The box is not the product, the controller and vr are the product, the box is a necessary prop

>>521293526
What games are you playing that require more than that

>>521293889
why do you need a new machine to play the same slop you've been playing for a decade? do you get off on giving jews all your money?

>>521288644
>LCD
valve deckard was hyped for no reason

>>521293606

It has Gigabit Ethernet. DisplayPort 1.4. HDMI 2.0. One USB-C port and 4 USB-A. ports

It's not much yeah, it's less then a cheap ass low end motherboard, so i truely hope they price it correctly toward 400 / 445 max.

>>521293889
>>521294033
I could play just Skyrim (with mods) the rest of my life.

>>521293889
Bellwright in ultra

>>521288644
No one gives a fuck about VR, valve is not even making anymore VR games, it will be dead in a few years

>>521292842
RAM prices are artificially inflated, it happens every few years.
This price is mostly paid by consumers.
You do not actually believe that companies actually pay anywhere near what a normal person does.
Do you actually believe a company buys Nvidia accelerators for 30-40k per unit or amd or Intel CPUs for 10-20k.
Something like colossus would be 2.5 to 4 billion in GPU accelerators alone.
That does not include Mainboards, PSUs, storage, CPUs, cable, racks, networking and so on.
Estimates for colossus total cost go from 1.95 to 3.5 billion.
This mean the retail pricing of the used GPUs alone exceeds the estimated cost of the entire machine.

Do not believe the lie of these people making a loss on their hardware.
Netflix does the same red number tax shit.

>>521293771
>Can I buy physical games?
Here:
>200 GB hard drive with game installer in it.

Games aren't +/- 6 gb any more. Sad.

>>521292351
So buy a boat and be a Fisher man. Or go work on a boat, I mean

>>521293265
>largely irrelevant with 5ghz and 6 ghz
While less of an issue this is not true.
You still have interference, like mobile data works in that band with, depending on where un world you are TV might as well.
It also replaces interference with other problems like penetration.
Those bandwiths have a much harder time penetrating walls and other stuff, resulting in a much higher los per wall or object they need to penetrate.

>>521293865
And I bet HL3 (vr) will be the actual thing baked in the deal that sends Gaben's gang to orbit.

>>521288506
my guess is $899/$999 for the steam machine, the vr, and the controller all combined

>>521294761
Their original VR was already insanely priced.
Yeah you could use only 2 trackers, but that resulted in shit performance.
You actually need at least 4 to have them function well.
Oh but you normal computer cannot really use 4 as the data streams will fuck up the USB controller.
You best use a maximum of 2, better only one per USB controller.
So now go and get a 400 buck USB controller card that shove 4 cheap USB chips with a PLX switch onto a single PCIE card to make it work.

>>521293858
>Its 2025
And I can still buy physical games. Not an exuse, also why are you namefagging?

>>521294568
Then I don't own anything. Pass.

People keep slagging off the headset

no one's talking about the fact it's a standalone PC running steamOS on ARM

It's a massive leap forward.

Way less heat and better battery life.

Don't give a fuck about the headset. Steam running games on ARM is massive.

X86 is cancer

>>521294568
This is one of the reason i liked the switch for existing, all the usual pc or other platforms games were very optimized for the switch and their size on disk cut in half if not even less, making you able to own a lot of modern titles / games that would weight 4 or 5 TB of data from the whole library on pc, to be around 1.5TB in switch nsp / roms on pc :)

>>521295082
This one is classic in Finland. Great fun.

>>521294761
if it's the price for everything combined, then, it's a very good deal and valve would totally obliterate the competition. That would be a fucking bold move.

>>521288458 (OP)
whoever designed that must be a kike

>>521294610
I rarely leave my apartment anymore after leaving Walmart. I have trauma.

>>521294978
>And I can still buy physical games.
Limited Run games mark?
>Not an exuse, also why are you namefagging?
Too many weirdoes pretend to be me, and to see my posts as I might have short term memory loss. I dont know. I can't remember.
.

>>521288458 (OP)
HL3 when? Fuck this Gamecube ripoff.

>>521295291
That is as long as you believe their paid shills that say they somehow how achieve 1 to 1 performance on a RISC design that needs to translate CISC to RISC.
Not forgetting that the ARM one doesn't even have the theorithi same performance.
If your 5W ARM chip could really magically perform the same level of performance a 200W CPU and 300W GPU do of the same generation you would see big businesses and science only use those.
But why, that is not the case, because it is bullshit.

>>521295685
>HL3 when?
Most likely with this launch. There will probably be some charm or achievement for getting this as a way to break down consumer resistance. Will Deadlock be released at the same time?

>>521295820
I don't care about 1:1 performance.

Gamehub lite can already run silksong or the FF7 remake on mobile handsets.

I already have a Y700 gen 4 that can run almost everything. The battery life improvement is insane.

I want valve to own the new wave of mobile gaming. Not Gamesir.

Can some paypig explain the purpose of buying this shitcube, when PC already exists

>>521296549
Normies need something that's somewhat plug-and-play. Why else do people shell out $500 for Robb Alvey's retropie builds?

>>521288458 (OP)
Troonbox marketed by troons. You will never be a real console or real PC.

>>521296549
It's not going after the pc market, it's going after ps5, switch and Xbox market.

As those cunts up the prices of game, steam is stepping up to eviscerate them.

Why the fuck would you buy a ps5, if a steam cube was available.

The only reason people buy a switch is for first party games.

Once emulation gets released, no one wants their shit hardware.

>>521288644
Money.
Mini-ITX is very expensive for the performance.
Fewer people buy those boards and cases, so the supply isn't there to facilitate bulk shipping.
Plus, this thing will fit in a media tray in your TV-furniture.
And you ought to love it, it's about 6x6x6 inches.

>>521296752
I guess those rumors of the next XBOX having steam integration were false.

>>521296178
I don't want even more unoptimized slop.
There was a time develoers for consoles had to go on metal to get shit done and it showed great results.
Then Nintendo fucked everything up when the gave the gamecube hardware a die shrink and sold it in a new case as the Wii showing Sony and MS you can hardware scam customers so Sony and MS started to sit down with Valve and EA and Ubisoft and agreed to basically all make consoles with the same shitty rehashed hardware so the shut companies they are can just goyslop the code for everything.

>>521296765
i bet a mini itc build with the same performance will cost about the same while being upgradable

I have two 4080 gaming PCs (one is Am5) and one is strictly for Sim driving and I've been waiting for this to be announced for months. Gonna be crazy driving with this.

>>521296786
Just look at the ROG Ally X which was claimed to beb an Xbox hand-held that turned out unable to play Xbox games.
The Steam Cube is the new Xbox.

>>521289055
Gaben Cube

Steams final solution to the console wars

>>521289055
The Cleveland Steambox

>>521289055
The GabeCube.
Valve's neat new Steam Machine that will have the equivalent of a 7640U CPU with something close to the RX7600 in GPU performance.
16GB DDR5, plus 8GB dedicated VRAM.
512GB or up to 2TB storage, microSD slot, a shitload of USB (but only 1 type C port at the back)
HDMI 2.0 and DP1.4
Internal PSU
Comes with SteamOS 3.

Pricing will be key.
It's supposed to be an entry level PC for playing games on the TV in your living room, an extension for people who bought a Steam Deck and wanna have a device they don't have to dock all the time.
It's supposed to be more than 6x more powerful than the Deck.
Some people estimated it'll be $450-600.

TL;DR: new gaming hardware device in shape of cube with the happy fat Linux man behind it, and maybe the only device besides the Deck that has any positivity associated with it.

>>521296800
Indies have dominated this year with games that could of been run on a Xbox 360.

Couldn't give a fuck what AAA is doing.

I want good games at low prices I can run anywhere.

Chasing the graphics dragon is retarded.

>>521288458 (OP)
I genuinely don't know what valve is thinking. A shitty PC but it's a cube. A headset that costs 1200 dollars. Is Steam OS at least a windows replacement?

>>521297345
Its a mini computer tailored to video games, that can cast onto your tv and phone and devices.

So you grab your cube, bring it to a friends house and can basically set up shop on any of his 12 monitors.

LAN partys will never be the same.

>>521297345
>>521297517

Additionally, steam IS computer gaming at this point. Building a supplemental mini computer to act as a console is the killing stroke to Xbox and playstation.

Ninetendo will survive because they still have all their IP. People will buy ninetendo just for mario/zelda/metroid/kong. And nintendo is fashioning themselves as a party/parlor console than a hard core videogame console.

>>521297517
>mini computer tailored to video games
You can build better.

>>521288458 (OP)
>Gay globohomo minimalism design from dogshit leftist tech company
NATURE IS LE HEALING

>>521296549
There are a lot of people with older PCs, people outside of Europe and the USA for example, who have a big Steam library but can't get what we would consider a midrange let alone an enthusiast build due to import tariffs and supply restrictions as well as their local economies.
The GabeCube isn't an upgrade for me at this point in my life, but it will be an upgrade for millions of customers Valve already serves.
And if not for you, let's say you have kids. Are you gonna keep letting them delete system on your C drive? Or are you gonna tell them "good news kids, you've got your own PC now"?
After all, it is consolised and it is plug and play, but it's still a normal PC running SteamOS 3 with its normal desktop and all of that Archness being available to you.

>>521288458 (OP)
no its not.
things are getting worse.
what drugs are you on?
Can I have some?
I want to be as delusional as you.

>>521297635
Nintendo has been surviving on aspies and autistic people for a while now.

I was picking up a board game to play with wife the other day. There was a Pokémon card tournament on-going....

It was like a gallery of angry loser autistic people. They were all horrible to each other. The stank was crazy.

That's the Nintendo mega fan.

I'll download nintendo games when the switch 2 get cracked. I'll play the 2 good games they make per console gen.

>>521297064
>*Buuuuuurp*
Shame this dude turned out to be a pedo.

>>521288458 (OP)
Just buy a PC ffs...

>>521288506
All you'll need is any PC and install SteamOS on it. The box is just for plebs who can't install their own OS.

>>521298047
It's a PC.
Just happens to be a box.

>>521298047
Too compilation for normies.

>>521291190
nope
the iGPU is fused off you have a dGPU that has its own gddr
the RAM is just laptop SODIMMs you can swap

>>521288644
the only thing that's really interesting about it is that it's ARM
so like proton brought PC gaming to linux, this brings it to ARM

I have a matx PC with a custom loop on the CPU, 64gb of ddr5, 3tb of storage, and a 4090. It's footprint is not much bigger than that box, but I guarantee you it's more powerful.

>>521297662
Well exactly. And what do computer gamers use to play their games on their cheaper, more powerful homemade computers?

Steam.

The steam machine is a direct attack on the casual gamers who have 600 to 800 dollars to spend and just want to play halo, CoD and GTA will you get a pS6 or XBox infinity, limited to one library and one monitor.

Or will you buy the steam machine, have access to all libraries, mods, and all screens in your house?

I agree a homemade computer is better but you are already using steam to play your games through it anyway.

>>521298077
Read between the lines blud is running a 8 to 10 year old rig and isnt sure if he should upgrade or just buy the Gaven Cube since 90% of what he does on his computer is game

>>521297064
i'm glad to see the snowdog testing yielded results

>>521288506
you are better off building your own for upgradability
it will perform like a low-mid end PC
and will be priced about as much

>>521297517
Just get a laptop?

>>521298666
The high IQ choice. But getting one with a GPU powerful enough for 1080p medium-high mixed settings will set you back €1000, instead of €450.

>>521298825
They've not even announced the price for the steam shit machine, and it only has 8VRAM which can barely handle any new games.
You are buying a PC that's already outdated.

>>521295409
When you get older, just remember: I warned you.

>>521288458 (OP)
Microsoft
>Create an account and upgrade to Windows 10 or you will get computerpox!
Gabe
>I heard you liked playing games and casual racism!
All hail the cube!

Everyone focuses on how this will impact the console market and forget how hated Windows and Microsoft are for PC users. Why would anyone want a bloated and crippled Windows machine when SteamOS can do it all better, faster and for less money?

Microsoft shares are going to zero.

>>521288760
Anon you’re being a fucking retard. Wasting your time on VR escapism isn’t any different from playing non vr games. If anything, VR has less potential for addiction compared to like league of legends or something. VR is too fatiguing to play for more than 3 hours at a time.

>>521288458 (OP)
If it's under 1000 I'll buy one for the living room

>>521299005
Anon, Valve is one of the most woke companies out there. They work with SBI, donates money to democrats, buy the single most woke studios and devs and pushed woke agenda before it was even a thing.

>>521297323
I love me my indie games, but they still have issues.
When I played Silly Polly Beast I had enemies constantly becoming intangible in mid combo and ignoring what I did.
I had enemies do 180° mid attack and letting their attack turn into my dodge.
I had them slide over they ground and ignoring distance with their attack animation tracking into me making them unavoidable.

>>521288458 (OP)
It doesn't run windows which means if you buy this you still need to own another real PC anyways.

>>521293526
>>521297165
>>521298881
>8GB VRAM
Dead on arrival lmao.

>>521298825
A laptop with a mid CPU and a RTX 4050 can run anything 1080p high. The last time I looked you could find one for 600-700

>>521299005
You should have had hundreds of Hotmail accounts in the 2000s.

>>521298666
A high end gaming laptop will run you 1800 to 2000 USD if you want to run modern games.

A top end gaming PC will run you 2 500.
But a DIY rig can shave that down to 1 300 or 1 100 depending on where you wanna cut corners.

Xbox/playstation are 500 to 600 so the Steam Machine will have to be no more than 800 USD to remain competitive.

>>521298266
Steam machines already failed once. They should be going all in on Steam OS as an alternative to windows.

>>521297985
Nintendo has been the Apple version of the console industry since at least 2000.


They produce the shittiest slop and lie about it constantly, but their fanbase will justify it.
Similar to how Dragon Ball fans will find excuses for the issues the story has with scaling.

>>521298881
You mentioned laptops.
Laptops with the standard version of that CPU are €400.
Those come with screens, keyboards, batteries, speakers, a trackpad, etc.
As for VRAM, those 8GB fit the GPU. They're using cut down versions of the RX7600 which only had 8GB.
They're only targeting 4k60 too.

Maybe if the AI bubble didn't rape the memory market, it would've had more system- and more GPU memory.
You should check the price flow charts on some of those sticks. It's a maddening reminder of the HDD market crash a decade ago.

>>521288578
>What's in the box?
The Epstein files.

>>521299429
Steam Machine will always be inferior to a PC, but steam already knows that. This cube is to bring the heel of the boot down onto the already failing PS5 and XBox One. A successful Steam Machine rollout will destroy these consoles. A failed rollout will just keep steam in its current dominant position. Its a win/draw scenario. Steam cant really lose.

>>521298266
True, but in all likelihood, this thing will cost $1000 for $600 of hardware.
You could create your own mini ATX build and install SteamOS on it.

>>521291190
My PC ran better with 16gb ram, ddr5 is magic.

>>521299429
SteamOS is a console OS. If you want a replacement to windows, just get Mint or Kubuntu, and install Steam on there. There’s nothing special about SteamOS that makes it inherently different from all the other Linux distros. Most games run fine on Linux with Steam and proton. The kernel level anti cheat spyware games won’t work on SteamOS either.

>>521298167
I will believe it when final hardware is available.

I think I threw out my old gaming magazines a year or two ago, but i remember that early on specs for the PS3 included 512MB system RAM and 512MB VRAM as well as an integrated 4 port Gigabit switch and a second HDMI port.
Specs are only final once it releases and even that is not fully true.
Often enough the first batch actually gets shipped with higher quality parts so testers end up making assumptions based on that.
Second run then replaces stuff like SSDs and RAM and so on with lower quality and less performance parts.
This is really common with Laptops for example.

You guys weren't kidding about RAM prices what the fuck?

>>521292870
Windows 7 was still going strong and will always be peak windows, even with 8 and 10 having criticism it's no where near as bad as 11's bs. Now is an excellent time to take gaming market share from Microsoft.

>>521299364
Did a quick check, €750 is the bottom (at a reputable supplier) for the 4050 in my country.
For the 4060 it's €900
For the 5060 it's €1000, just listing for completion.

>>521299410
Nigger this thing only has 8GB of VRAM. It's outclassed by $1K laptops let alone towers.

>>521298666
Checked.

>>521299893
that's just valve statements
the only thing that's likely to change is the price they planned for
which is probably why they didn't announce it

>>521300008
Thats what i just said?? I said Gaben Cube needs to be $800 to stay competitive with both cheaper consoles and mid tier PCs

>>521288458 (OP)
this >>521291062
>nu-pol doesn't even know about the black cube anymore

Enough with the boxes. At least try some other shapes.

>>521292004

Thank fuck Chinks are making an entry to the memory markets and this price fixed Korean Taiwanese cartel ends in couple of years.

>>521300272
>Enough with the boxes. At least try some other shapes.
It's simple and seemingly customizable.

>>521299634
bet you install games in programfiles like a dumb nigger

>>521294244
computer repair tech have a (you)

>>521300178
I'm disagreeing with your numbers and I think $800 is way too high. PS5 is only $500 and it comes with a $70 controller.

>>521289333
You're saying that like the PS5 and whatever the Microsoft offering is called these days is a PS2 or and Xbox. They're not.

>Literally replace your console with anything else.

Is something valve are betting on, and it's half compelling for me on those terms alone. I've 5 young sons and I don't want them to have a modern console, and letting them onto a full PC for emulation comes with it's own raft of issues.

>>521300689
Oh, well i mean i suppose, but i dont see how Gaben can offer this thing with all those capabilities for anything under $750 but obviously cheaper = more sales.

>>521292508
probably 1700$

>>521301763
Combined purchase?

>>521301789
1099$ for the console, 1700$ for the vr, 300$ for the controller

source? i don't have one

>>521291190
it definitely does not share system ram with the gpu you dumb nigger

I bought a pc for 2 grand 10 years ago. Should I learn how to upgrade or get a new build and learn how to upgrade that?

>>521288506
Moore's Law Is Dead estimates that the bill of material cost is about $425 so it could retail for $450-600.

>>521288458 (OP)
>Valve makes their own pre built pc
>the world is healing
You must a really good life in an all white country if this your definition of healing.

>>521290035
They know their audience.

>>521297165
It's a disgrace that gaben forgot to put 3.5mm jack into his kaaba

>>521292528
>>521293526
>>521299275
every modern game is optimized for 8gb vram

>>521288644
>imagine having steam installed on your machine
Literal kike spyware

>imagine buying steam hardware
Kek at goyim cattle

>>521302237
At what frame rate, nigger? Anything less than 144hz is nigger tier

>>521302045
10 years is too old to upgrade. just build a new one with amazon parts on sale

>>521302045
Just wait for the gaben box, unironically

>>521302045
New build.
A lot has changed in 10 years.
AM5 is a solid platform, get the 9800X3D for gaming. 32GB of memory recommended but with prices these days 16 may have to do.
GPU will cost you an arm. Check GamersNexus on youtube for benchmarks and case reviews.

>>521299951
If you can find a notebook with a RTX 4050 unlocked to 115W, it will run better and faster than a capped RTX 4060.
But now there's probably the RTX 5050/5060. I don't know the prices or if they are much better.

>>521302237
you don't optimize for vram, you optimize in general. optimization is just doing the same thing with fewer resources, less waste, and lots of games use more than 8gb VRAM, it's kinda of the baseline for entry level gaming nowadays

if you have less than 32gb RAM/8gb VRAM you aren't playing on a modern PC but 32/8 is BASELINE and not enough for lots of things, even modded skyrim will eat up 12gb VRAM and 34gb RAM at times

>>521302045
What is your current PC not doing for you? Don't upgrade for no reason.

>>521302534
>A lot has changed in 10 years
Disagreed. I think technological progress stopped in 2015. There's nothing a modern CPU can do that Skylake cannot.

>>521302402
>>521302473
>>521302534
Thanks guys. I’m also sick of windows bullshit. Should I do a Linux distro or unironically use steam os?

>>521288506
Asmongold said 700

>>521302960
DoA.

>>521302960
Asmongold is a Texan who doesn't own a single firearm. You shouldn't take anything he says seriously.

>>521288506
If it's reasonable priced £400 to £600 maybe I buy one and keep it as a curiosity to play around with, it's small but makes me wonder why I don't just build one myself for same price and install SteamOS onto it to try out, probably get get it similarly sized or smaller.

6-inch cube is rather small, maybe worth making it and giving it a grass block (minecraft) look and if I ever get tired of it can just donate it to a kid or whatever.

>>521302951
SteamOS is Linux, kiddo.

>>521302925
Well I can’t play stuff like elden ring, and I have trouble running some of the more intensive indies. Also I kinda want o get into it and considering how out of date I am, couldn’t I upgrade with relatively older and cheaper parts? Or do they not sell older parts?

>>521303077
Cant blame him. They're too addictive.

>>521300272
US $1,500.00
or Best Offer

: (

I want one!

>>521301640
He should sell at a little above cost say $200.00 have a free month trial steam. And 5 games free of your choice. Kill off Xbox and PlayStation. The subscription and buy a game as you go would. Come out in the wash. Money ain’t everything. Kill off those who destroyed games for shareholders and political bull shit

>>521302951
SteamOS is Valve's version of Arch Linux.

>>521302925
>went from 4/8 cores/threads to 16/32
>from 8GB to 32GB ram, from DDR3 to DDR5
>from smol cache to big 3D vertical cache
>from 4Ghz OC to 5Ghz stock
>"Disagreed, nothing changed"
heh

>>521292870
>VR is and will remain a super niche market
Videogames in general are shitting the bed, so good luck to anyone investing in VR in 2025.

>>521303259
Sounds like you should build a pc just to learn and for the fun of it. Or if you really just want to play modern games at medium settings and you're starting with a i7-6700K you could throw in a 3060 or whatever for less than $300 and get a few more years out of the machine.

>>521303643
>He should sell at a little above cost say $200.00 have a free month trial steam. And 5 games free of your choice
Assuredly HL3 will be a pack-in.

>>521302951
SteamOS isn't quite ready for desktop use. the only official image i'm aware of is the steamdeck one that's geared towards AMD handhelds. you're better off just using a regular distro

>>521303746
>>went from 4/8 cores/threads to 16/32
>>from 8GB to 32GB ram, from DDR3 to DDR5
>>from smol cache to big 3D vertical cache
>>from 4Ghz OC to 5Ghz stock

You must be pretty young to be impressed by that "progress" after an entire decade. From my perspective everything is the same:

>Galaxy S6 could do anything your current phone can do including VR
>Intel Skylake could do anything your current PC can do including VR
>Social media dominance
>Vine short video format becomes popular
>The current GTA and the current Elder Scrolls
>Tesla Autopilot released for the Model S
>USB-C becoming standard
>Back up cameras mandated in all new cars

The only thing that has actually changed is AI but the other anon wasn't asking about locally generating anthro videos.

>>521288458 (OP)
>buying a literal black box

>>521292004
Tariffs are not a tax!

>>521304458
This. Jews are openly mocking the Goyim.
>>521304726
Tariffs from the black cube go to ...

>>521304416
>but the other anon wasn't asking about locally generating anthro videos
Then why did you bring up devices and applications that aren't PC hardware?

>>521304782
>Tariffs from the black cube go to ...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gMdcE8jdz70

>>521288458 (OP)
Can they invest all their corpo money into making all their games run on their own OS so I can ditch windows. I want to learn Linux even though its all nerd tranny shit, but I need 2 game and I'm not troubleshooting and suffering through a bunch of emulators or whatever. just give me an OS that isn't windows that lets me play my games. why the fuck is this so hard, it's just a program or whatever, run the .exe how hard can it possibly be

>>521296089
>shove my nose in SHIT

>>521305241
https://youtu.be/TYIl6n_SRCI

>>521305325
They are, that's what steamos does. Uses a translation layer to run windows executables, frequently with better performance than windows thanks to forcing things through vulkan instead of directx

>>521305160
To give you some perspective. I actually envy you zoomers. Happily playing the same games and watching the same media on the same hardware for your entire lives. No lies of a better future. No forgotten dreams.

>>521305325
They did.
Valve and others developed the Proton compatibility layer.
It translates Windows API calls into calls Linux can digest and runs everything through Vulkan.
Theoretically, a translation should perform worse, but Windows 10 is a little, little bit slower in framerate (mainly the microstuttering which can occur), and Hindoes 11 is much slower. In fact SteamOS 3 is between 6-30% faster depending on the game.
There are however games that don't translate so well yet, and thus run the same or a little slower than Hindoes 11.
There's also the incompatibility with Anti-Cheat software, which isn't a Proton problem as much as it is a Linux problem caused by the software demanding kernel-level access (some as deep as Ring 0 (bare metal)).

A compatibility list is available on Protondb

>>521306309
>>521305867
Oh shidd I just watched the actual announcement trailer for the Steamed Machine. I used that database cross reference website and all the shit I pretty much play is on there. fuck man i'll have to look into this, maybe I can convert my current PC to linux with this proton shit and I'll get the steamed machines later. I can get some laptop for writing and art. no more microkike thank tha lord

>>521306273
I played Sega Genesis as my first console.
Playing PS1 a little later, I was stoked to see what 3D could being.
On PC just a little bit after that, I played Shogun Total War and got hooked on that type of game. Rome Total War was fantastic, absolutely jaw-dropping good, and by then I had digested Call of Duty 1 & United Offensive, Soldier of Fortune 1 & 2, American McGee's Alice, Black & White, Dungeon Keeper 2, Need For Speed Underground, Command & Conquer Tiberian Sun and Age of Empires 2.

I know all about the coulds, ifs and shoulds of gaming.
DBZ games peaked on the PS2 with Budokai 3 and Budokai Tenkaichi 3. There hasn't been a good DBZ game since then. That was 20 fucking years ago.
Total War died when they released Rome 2 in its atrocious state and never recovered.
Command & Conquer got raped by EA, rip Westwood.
For that matter, Need For Speed ran out of steam ages ago too.

I remember being excited when I could finally afford to buy a handheld and the options were the 3DS which had nothing worth playing except Monster Hunter 4U, and the Vita which died a lonely death devoid of games that aren't visual novels.
Why such a low diversity of games? Because every developer migrated to the mobile market and produced touchscreen slop with gay ads.
Even DS had an Anno game. 1701, and it played close to the PC version too.
So I didn't buy a handheld and kept the money.
Then PC franchises started to suck.
Then the hardware stagnated yes, until AMD broke Intel's back with a couple more cores, Zen+ and Zen 2.
I had Borderlands 1. Fantastic game.
Borderlands 2 wasn't as fun. Later I noticed it had lefty dystopic writing (the lady mayor who politicises her own disgust of men side quest) and the game sucked.
The Pre-Sequel was even more shit. Even had the macho apologise for a macho joke in it. No I didn't pay to see that.
And every other franchise had something repulsive about it all of a sudden.
They all towered up instead of spreading out possibilities.

>>521288458 (OP)
<<MUH

>>521306984
>maybe I can convert my current PC to linux
I just did this and I'm no computer wizard, used Pop OS, all my steam games work great after I disabled on board graphics from taking over and ensuring the compatibility mode in steam is forced to proton experimental. It's been great.

>>521288506
Probably 600 min, 800 max.

>>521294761
I seriously doubt it. Maybe 1200 but even then it's stretching it.

>>521288458 (OP)
>the world is healing goy!

Nothing has changed, the same kind of people are in charge. Tap tap tap

>>521288644
Valve literally went out to buy milk in the middle of releasing half life episodes after a cliffhanger

People call for half life 3 but it’s like they forget we’re still waiting for half life 2 episode 3

Don’t trust these guys they only care about money

>>521305696
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-PGltdEEsfI

>>521288458 (OP)
>another gayming box for you to waste hours on yippee!!
fuck off reddit nigger

>>521292876
There's not many woman at the dojo to begin with anon. Most of them are big sporting dykes.

>>521288458 (OP)
It sure is. Can’t wait for this bad boy

>>521288644
> why would you buy this thing
Because Asmongold simped for it?

>>521291190
The RAM is upgradable. Only the CPU is soldered on

>>521292312
It's actually very fulfilling with friends, but I agree, single-play or playing with randos in MP is completely retarded.

>>521288644
>jews hate it
Alright Gaben, I will take 10

>>521288578
fr
this and the tranies in the promotional vid would make me not buy, even if it would be good purhase option
i might buy used steam mashine in 2 years for 250 $ when normies sell it after the box collecting dust in wardrobe

>>521292761
Waiting for holocoster 1

>>521288506
My guess is around 1000. Maybe 800$ for the budget version and 1200$ for the pro/plus version. It can't be good if its cheaper than 800$, but it also can't be too expensive case at that point just buy a whole gaming PC.

wow, a console that's just like a pc, hence full of fucking hackers who aimbot and wall every competitive game

i'll stick to my xbox, where the worst faggots can do is mod for recoil

>black cube
C'mon now.

>>521288644
vr is fucking boring and the clunky headsets are creating a generation of bald 20 year olds

>>521291277
Gaben did it better.

Oh boy more saturn worship, oh jeez guys you sure do a great job of signaling that youre child murdering satanists, wow great job Gabe.

>>521309499
>ac
I got tired of playing ac when the servers kept rolling

>>521295480
How does it play? Looks interesting. It's an exploration RPG type game or something?

>>521308396
They'll release it as VR only to sell these things. Bet on it.

>>521296733
What the fuck was Valve thinking hiring troons to market their shit?

>>521309618
What about Sega Saturn?

>>521288644
This jew knows what their elites have prepared for us

He knows, as Gaben knows, that most people in the western world cant buy a home to live. So the next step of capitalist jewing bottom-race human involution will be to use a VR set that will virtualize a home, when in reallity you will be next to a stove under a bridge.

>>521297323
>Couldn't give a fuck what AAA is doing.
probably making some gay shit for trannies and niggers

>>521309994
Segata Sanshiro wouldn't allow it.

>>521288644
>Oculus Grift
Idk abt that

>>521312288
I love my Quest 3.