There is barely any new talent that can rise to the top of the ticket
>Jacob Fatu
>Bron Breakker
>Penta
>Dominik Mysterio
>El Grande Americano

Who else is gonna carry the company for the next 10 years? Almost all of the wrestlers on the top are peaked out by age or going over the hill
>Randy Orton
>LA Knight
>CM Punk
>AJ Styles
>Cody Rhodes
>Roman Reigns
>
>Gunter
>Usos
>New Day
>Drew McIntyre
>Sheamus
>Finn Balor
>Kevin Owens
>Rey Mysterio
>Ron Killings
>The Miz
Are we really expecting Andrade, Aleister Black, and Bronson Reed to carry the brand?
Ilja Dragunov and Carmelo Hayes have dropped off the fucking earth and the Wyatt 6 don't even fucking exist.
Every Samoan except Jacob is dead on arrival.

So who are supposed to be main eventing in a few years when all these old people are hanging up their caps?
Joe Hendry, Mr. Iguana, and Trick Williams can't fill the void on arrival to the main roster.

Buddy.

Me

Black and Penta are 40

>>17964031
Rey shows that you can keep going to 50 if you're peak lucha. Penta could go another 10 years. Hopefully he doesn't overshadow his little brother before he gets some sauce outside of flippy shit.

>>17964019 (OP)
It's crazy how few names they have lined up to do this at the moment. They're still hinging on 50 year olds. The new guys that they are pushing as main event/world champion guys are all late 30s at best and most are already in their 40s. NXT isn't producing anyone worth a shit on the men's side and hasn't for ages. Maybe Femi? But once he hits the main roster we'll see how that goes
It's pretty much Bron, Jacob, Dom, and maybe Solo

>>17964060
Trick Williams could bring some heat, I just don't understand how other NXT converts have been so underutilized
Andrade and Carmelo had a great series of matches last year and then they didn't do shit with the momentum of that for either of them. Now Carmelo is the Miz's understudy? And Andrade is drowning in a sea of hungry luchadors from AAA.

Don't worry, Scott Steiner's 6'3 generic freak son will save wrestling.

jacob fatu absolutely sucks, you are a mark if you like him

>>17964019 (OP)
The next generation of WWE headliners will be illegal immigrants who wrestle for 10 cents per match. Record profits baby.

>>17964019 (OP)
I believe in Joe Hendry

>>17964184
37 year old prospect

>>17964019 (OP)
>>17964060
>They're still hinging on 50 year olds. The new guys that they are pushing as main event/world champion guys are all late 30s at best and most are already in their 40s.
Isn't this highlighting a bigger problem?
>Jacob Fatu (33)
>Bron Breakker (27)
>Dominik Mysterio (28)
The most obvious guys to be on top in future WWE (which are not yet late 30's or older) are all nepo babies. Doesn't this suggest that it takes top wrestlers who don't have connections way too long to get into E? Maybe we just won't see tenures as long as (and debuts as young as) Randy/Cena anymore under TKO and people will just be hired when they get over and fired when they're not.

>>17964060

Still no male world champion born in the 90's.

>Ctrl+F: oba
>no results

>>17964192
Really?

>>17964183
>The next generation of WWE headliners will be dimeless dagestani shitters who wrestle for 10 cents per match. Record profits baby.
ftfy

>>17964196
Bron and Dominik are at least good in the ring regardless of nepotism. Jacob was sold on insane indie performance but he is extremely lacking since his debut. Not even a single Rikishi driver.

>>17964184
>>17964192
Joe and LA Knight will burn out by 2030.

>>17964239
I actually think Jacob is better in ring than Dom. Would have thought the Rikishi driver was not allowed.

>>17964196

It's always been a nepo baby business, from the wrestlers to the people running the show

>>17964019 (OP)
among guys in WWE that are in their early 30s, let’s say 32 or younger, we have
>bron
>jacob
>trick
>oba
>melo
>jevon
>logan
>dom
>myles borne?
>sean legacy?
as guys that i could realistically see being made into main event headliners one day. but that “one day” is the problem. these guys aren’t getting any younger, they’re in their athletic primes now and will only get slower and more sawdusted as time goes on.
HHH has been basically entirely unwilling to let young guys enter the main event scene. only bron is under 30 and doing it and he might not even be a world champion before 30. vince wanted it to be theory, and i like theory personally, but HHH completely tanked his trajectory towards achieving main event young guy theory when he took over and i don’t think we’ll ever get it back.
all of these 40 year old fossils that won’t shit and get off the pot are gonna be main eventing until they retire in 10 years, at which point all of the guys i named are gonna be 40 year old fossils planning retirement and working slowly.
problem is they’re “proven draws” so they don’t wanna experiment and push new guys to the forefront and relegate the old farts to the midcard except for AJ for some reason.

>>17964304

HHH should think about how old he was when Vince was pushing him

>>17964304
Oba is a sure thing

>>17964019 (OP)
>Jacob Fatu
>Bron Breakker
>Penta
>Dominik Mysterio
>El Grande Americano
Penta's cool but he's 40 and I've watched him in 3 promotions already.
The rest of this is fucking BLEAK

Swipe Right will unironically do well

>>17964157
He’s too cool for wrestling

>>17964335
They’re bigots, so no sweetie

Dom, Fatu & Bron are all locks

Great character work, good in the ring and most importantly the crowd loves all 3 of them

The issue is outside of the few guys listed, nobody has an interesting character. If they're boring on the mic and the storylines are shit no one is going to be drawn to them. It goes back to the producers and booking, if it's shit the product will be shit.

>>17964284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgTemUdXXdM

You got Owens pulling off traditional piledrivers as plot points but Jacob can't do the infinitesimally safer Rikishi driver?

Only new blood that is even worth bringing from NXT are Lexis King, Oba, and Trick. All the other male wrestlers are just Job Squad ready or are already older like Hendry and Page

>>17964402
Is it safer? I get what you're saying but Owen's package piledrivers were so hilariously far off the mat that I think that was a precondition (along with the story) for doing them. Maybe Fatu will unlock the Rikishi driver for a future feud.
Besides, I only care about seeing Bron perform the far superior Steiner screwdriver.

>>17964219
Oba should have been Seff's enforcer instead of Bron. Would have been a great way to introduce him and it wouldn't have halted Bron's momentum the way it has.

>>17964438
trying to sneak lexis king in there LMAO

>>17964457
>halted Bron's momentum the way it has.
Hmm? Him being with Heyman instantly gave him more momentum. He shoulda won yesterday instead of fucking Sami though and won KOTR and faced Gunther at SS but i guess they wanna bury LA with him now

Logan Paul is getting more experience under his belt and he has had more matches in the past 6 months than many on the roster. People hate him for how he got there, but in another 3-4 years he will eventually be accepted as a legit telent. The entire drone segment on Saturday is something he proposed to management back in 2023, it was one of the most talked about moments on social media from Money in Bank.

He makes people seethe but he is gradually "earning" his right to be there.

>>17964658
Logan's athleticism and omni-heat from the crowd are definitely potent, but dude is still a part timer.

He can't be a headliner insofar as the other wrestlers who have to carry the brand week in and out. He just shows up to be the biggest heel with great matches when he feels like it. Like a worse version of 2010s brock.

>>17964019 (OP)
Americano and Penta are 40

>>17964019 (OP)
NXT sawdusts all their young talent it sucks

>>17964019 (OP)
I know you only mentioned men but Stephanie Vaquer is an obvious one on the women's side.

>>17964586
Nah, Heyman is with Rollins, who has brought Bron as an enforcer. Heyman isn't with Bron like he was with Lesnar. There's a difference in the dynamic of it all.

>>17964815
If you don't like Dom, then you don't understand what wrestling is

>>17964810
womeme have a shorter career. By 40 they're already walled and broken

ilja when he becomes seths fourth man

>>17964019 (OP)
arent penta and chad gable both like 45 years old? lmao

>>17964815
OP didn't mention Gable, wtf are you on about?

Jacob Henry is gonna be black brock lesnar, will probably skip the line from NXT to just go in being a monster because hes Mark's kid but also insanely strong.

>>17964345
He is literally in the PC right now training.

>>17964170
Hi Solo

>>17964043
Rey Fenix is good in the ring and all, but he breaks every bone in his body every match and needs 9 months to recover, so Penta getting the rub is probably for the best.

Who cares. We're heading towards the shows becoming 50% women. I'm not sitting through that to watch a few good guys. The only ones I've seen with true longterm potential are Bron, Jacob, Dom and Oba. Maybe they could do something with Penta too. A good booker could do kino stuff with him. Him and Dom could become longtime foes for example. Maybe Ricky Starks and Ethan Page could be top guys too. I don't really rate them but they tick a lot of boxes for WWE.

>>17964019 (OP)
It's kinda weird, if you aren't 6.2ft+ on roids or don't have mic skills your career is pretty much locked to a certain ceiling, even Gable, Fatu and Bron look like midgets face to face with Drew/Roman.

>>17964019 (OP)
>penta
>the dude that will never be able to cut a promo in english
/pw/ is retarded

>>17964019 (OP)
Not those two shitter midgets. Dom will be a great Eddie Guerrero and probably the top star 5 years from now. The business is in trouble otherwise.

>>Penta
lol what

>>17965690
the entire reason that penta is over is because of that promo he cut right after his first match

>>17964019 (OP)

>>17965786
no it isn't, he's over because of his la parka dance and the iwc making edits of with the smooth operator

>>17965915
>he's over because of his la parka dance and the iwc making edits of with the smooth operator
cringe. Must be bongs doing that.

>>17964019 (OP)
>Bron gets pushed to the moon
>Carmelo gets made Miz's lackey
>Ilja hasn't had a match since 2024
>Trick is infinitely carrying NXT on his back, forever denied the main roster
>DJ McDonough is the shortest end of the dying group that is judgement day

All the talent from NXT has been squandered and I don't understand why.
Basically Bron and Trick are the only actual stars of the last 4 years to come out of the "Young blood factory."

Nevermind we have a legion of unskilled Samoans
>Toma Tonga
>Tonga Loa
>JC Mateo
>Solo Sikoa
>Jey Uso
>Jimmy Uso

>>17964019 (OP)
trick williams is gonna unironically have a cena-tier run if they don't come up with anyone else that can draw

>>17964452
Bron isn't strong enough to pull off the Steiner Screwdriver, especially on bigger wrestlers.

That'll have to wait for Scott's son who is 3 inches taller than him and way bigger physically to pull off. Could you imagine the pop if he made the Steiner Screwdriver his finisher?

>>17964019 (OP)
You just need one guy to run with and the rest will follow if you book it right. It's that simple. No matter the promotion or size you're almost always going to have:
>A past era legend who's still good enough to feud with and put your guy over
>Someone good enough to play the weird gimmick/monster heel/evil foreigner role
>Someone to lead the top heel faction
>Someone unexpected who gets over (not guaranteed)
>Someone great jumping from another company
>A #2 guy to pass the torch to
You keep all of these roles separate and that's the secret sauce to forming a solid main event scene. Then you turn people, change it up, everyone feuds with everyone, people cycle in and out. Obviously this isn't always how it goes, but that's how WWE built multiple different eras. AEW started out doing an approximation of that. AJPW did it in the 90s, NJPW did it in the 2010s.

>>17966513
>AJ
>gunther? fatu?
>seth
>don't think the fed has one of these or if they do he's not getting a main event level push right now, maybe mid 2010s bryan is the most recent example
>ospreay (soon)
>???
yeah we are honestly kinda fucked right now fedbros

>>17966765
Imagine it's the very start of 1997. Who could you possibly have guessed would be carrying the WWF in 1998 alongside Austin and Taker?
HHH sure, as much as Ahmed Johnson and Marc Mero. Do you see Fake Diesel getting over as Taker's masked brother? Do you see Rocky "Sucks" Maivia becoming a massive celebrity? Do you see them actually putting the big one on Foley? Do you see Vince and his family becoming wacky main characters? Do you see Kurt Angle happening at all? Shit, Ken Shamrock was considered a huge get in 1997.

>>17964019 (OP)
Paul needs to get Oba and Trick to the main roster ASAP but they are literally the only thing carrying NXT week in and out.
Sure there are 40+ shitters like Ethan page, but they can't keep NXT afloat.

TKO needs to can all the samoans, retire half the people on OP's list, and start working on the future.

>>17968489
if they are carrying nxt why the fuck would he bring him up then???

>>17968574
Thats the problem. They have young, potential headliners that are stuck keeping NXT afloat.

And the NXT talent they have brought over all got buried except Bron and Bronson. Ilja, Carmelo, JD, all headliners of the last few years of NXT, all buried under an ocean of samoans, senior citizens, and midcarders

>>17964019 (OP)
It's literally just Bron Breakker right now. Dominik Mysterio is midcard for life. Trick Williams or Oba Femi might be able to rise but everyone else in NXT is timeless as fuck.

>>17964810
Vaquer will flame out in a couple years

>>17969040
Ilja wasn't buried he got injured. He can still make it if he recovers correctly

why are people so high on trick? he was melos bitch and look at what melos doing now

>>17969250
Trick has come into his own, especially after turning heel. Hes carrying the whole NXT brand and even flexing on TNA while Carmelo is the Miz's bitch jobbing on the midcard.

>>17969284
trick is a geek, melo owns him

>>17964019 (OP)
It will be MJF, Swerve Strickland, and Darby Allin. They will all go over in a year or two.

>>17969322
You mixed that up.

>>17967869
that was vince. who his retarded son in law learned seemingly nothing from.
HHH is far more risk avoidant and unwilling to shake things up like vince.
vince would sometimes force pushes and angles that weren't working and sometimes scrap them quickly; but HHH always forces things that aren't working and never scraps them.

>>17968489
all ego is gigadimes

>>17969193
ilja wasn't getting literally buried but he wasn't being booked and pushed as strongly as he should have been

>>17969382
yeah but Ethan Page is already 5 years away from retirement.

>>17969250
You must not be watching NXT. Trick is giga dime in the future.

>ctrf theory
>only one post mentions him
You guys are sleeping

>>17969474
>giga dimes
>nxt is free to watch
ok

>>17969487
oh dont be so pedantic. you know what i meant

>>17969486
HHH is the one that's sleeping

>>17964060
>It's crazy how few names they have lined up to do this at the moment
They have a lot of decent guys, the main rosters are just stacked with male talent. Who do you drop to give Brooks Jensen a shot? Orton? Sami? Balor? Otis? But NXT has dudes like Oba, Hank and Tank, Lexis King, Ridge Holland, Tony D'Angelo, all the dudes in Dark State. WWE is fine. The NXT women seem better than they are because the main rosters are a wasteland of Nia Jax, Michin, and Naomi.

>>17969284
>Hes carrying the whole NXT brand
No he isn't. Trick is ok. Oba is right there with him. And you have the D'Angelo Family and Hank and Tank. Trick is over, but you have way more than Trick on that roster. Not to mention the old dudes like Spears, Page, and Saints. And Hendry is probably more over than any of them.

>>17969874
Nia and Naomi is great.

Me!

>>17964196
I had no idea Jacob Fatu was only 33, he looks at least 40

>>17964814
You're dumb, the entire stable is meant to elevate Bron when he inevitably turns on Seth.

>>17965726
Dom won the midcard belt and has been completely forgotten after Wrestlemania.
Bron is going to be the top guy for a long time as soon as the current guys age out. They are already pushing him into the main event. You will be posting and seething here for years, spic. Have fun!

>>17967869
>>17966513
Very good posts

>>17964019 (OP)
People always say Dom Mysterio but I really don't see him ever getting out of the midcard except for a pity title run later on. The guy is fine but hes not main event status and will never be a top guy

>>17970745
"Bron Breakker" (lol) is 5'6"

>>17969874
i dont see anyone from Dark State making it on the main roster

>>17969874
>Who do you drop to give Brooks Jensen a shot?
Who the fuck is Brooks Jensen?

>>17970745
Dom still gets pops. Its not his fault Haitch is a fucking retard and isn’t capitalizing in how over he is

>>17964199
This feels like a particularly damning statistic

>>17969874
>the main rosters are just stacked with male talent
This is a valid point to raise and what I'll attribute to the long term downside to the Cena era and even more so the Bloodline. The Cena tunnelvision was so strong that an entire generation of midcard guys never had a crack at moving up and actually establishing themselves as proper main event stars. They'd get their moment in the sun to be fed to Cena and then back down the card they went until John came circling back around. Even worse for any kind of upward mobility has been this Bloodline shit that's gridlocked the WWE and other titles at points for the last half decade straight. No one outside of Roman, Cody, and Cena has sniffed the WWE championship. The real main event scene in WWE has been unmoving between those three and a few others like Rock and Seth and Brock for at least the last 5 years. What that's done is caused a bubble of main event potential guys to all cram in to the upper midcard because there's nowhere higher for them to go. That's why the WHC feels like a midcard belt. It's why Gunther competition across his IC and WHC reigns were identical. There's just such a low ceiling for every guy that isn't one of those select few I mentioned. And then anyone beneath that bubble of guys trying to push through is completely fucked. That's why tag team wrestling has grown to mean fuck all. Because no matter how well a team does it's never leading to anything beyond it. There is no path to success if a team splits up. They need to move the fuck on from this shit. There's a rant no one asked for

>>17970806
dion lennox has a good look, can work and is passable on the mic
saquon shugars is the best on the mic out of all of them and also pretty impressive in the ring
the other two are fucked

>>17970799
He will be main eventing for years and you will seethe

>>17970830
i dislike it too but also feel like that's apparently best for business?
the historically weakest times for the WWE's business, the new generation and late 2010's after cena stepped back from full time, were notable for being the weakest times in the company's history. but these were also the times when the company didn't have as strong of a "top guy" to rally around.
so for as shit of a product as it creates and how it robs good wrestlers of opportunities, it will probably continue like that because i think the two are linked.

>>17970873
>>17970830
Why is it that there were so many guys that just petered out? I didn't watch from like 2010-2020 and I see so many fucking random guys from that time period like heath slater, nexus, etc. Were they all shitters?

>>17964019 (OP)
I think they should give the for the long run:
>Undisputed title
Drew, and for transitional Truth, Cody, Punk
>Heavy Title
LA Knight, and for transitional hotpotato to everyone in the midcard like Bron Fatu Penta Gable etc
>IC and US
Same
Like some anon said we are probably just gonna end up with more womeme stuff instead

>>17970886
Slater was a low carder albit a useful one who helped with ring rust for vets like Lesnar backstage who got let go a few years ago

>>17970911
It just feels like there's a ton of wrestlers from that era that seemed to be a big deal and then just disappeared

>carry Women's Wrestling into the next generation
Tessa Blanchard, Izzy Moreno, Blake Monroe, Zayda Steel, and The Cavinder Twins.

>>17970950
Delete this picture you fucking freak

>>17969874
>Lexis

lol

>Ridge

LMFAO

>>17970830
Tag wrestling means plenty...outside slop-E.

>>17964199
>>17970813
AEW has 3 btw. Or 1 in 3 men to hold that championship. Crowned their 1st post-80s champion nearly 4 years ago.

>>17969874
NXT has a few dime machine guys but overall the division is weak as fuck. i cannot believe the only one you actually named was oba. “lexis king” get the fuck out of here.

>>17964304
>myles borne
lmao nigga

>>17964019 (OP)
There's non-zero chance of Zilla Fatu appearing unless AEW poaches him first
He could be marketed as "The ghost of the Bloodline's past"

>Leave the future of wrestling to me

>>17964060
Femi will move up and and then be stuck in the same trash as guys like Carmello are doing.

>>17964457
Why would he have to replace Bron and not Reed?

>5'6" with an attitude
lmao

>>17964304
As crazy as it might sound.. Logan could truly be the guy if he sticks around long enough. If he didn't have the youtube background stink and had instead come from the indies, he'd probably already be in the mix for the title.
The other one is Dom, especially if he puts on a bit of muscle as he gets older.
The rest don't seem to have the 'it' factor.

>>17970807
the guy that sucks so bad he got turfed by the fucking culling

>>17972030
>A joke so hilarious nobody else laughs at it, so I have to laugh at myself

>>17964019 (OP)
>Logan Paul
>Jacob Fatu
>Bron Breakker
>Austin Theory
>Dominik Mysterio
>Trick Williams
>Oba Femi
all will be perpetual main eventers going into 2030 and this is all just people we know of 5 years in advance

>>17971969
Oba is fire. Jasper Troy showed last night the reason he is Undertaker's pick. He is a little stiff, but he is gonna take the reigns from Oba when he is called up to the main roster.
>>17972047
Logan is always gonna be a part timer, don't act like he is gonna live the carnie life when he doesn't have to.
>>17972112
>Theory
Never gonna happen under HHH
>>17971742
>More Samoans
For the love of God stop bloating the roster with shit. Jacob is barely good enough and he isn't even using half of his moveset from the indies.

Brock Reichsteiner is gonna be the king of the mountain once he gets to the main roster.

>>17970719
>the entire stable is meant to elevate Bron
You mean in 1-2 years at best, after his momentum is all gone?

here's the difference between then and now, WWE's biggest draws were basically all men from the golden age to around the mid 2010's, you dont need as many main event talent on the men's side as it was back then, when there's also the women's division also flowing with main eventers in their own right

>>17964019 (OP)
I shoot think Solo has a chance to be the main heel. His height won't be a problem since everyone else is below 6' once the oldheads retire. He's one of the very few wrestlers who have at least an ounce of charisma, along with Penta, Jacob and Dominik, that alone gives him more shelf life than the bangerino wrestlers.
He just needs to put on muscle. Whatever roid concoction Steiner was on give it to Solo.

>>17972112
They need someone to fill the Austin/Punk role. You know. The anti-establishment, rebellious, scathing hot promo guy.

A-Town DOWN

>>17973362
solo's in a weird place.
it's not impossible for him to be a big name one day. he has some positives. he's young, he's nepo, he's probably the best in ring of the coconuts besides jacob and maybe jimmy on a good day.
but he sucked when they were trying to make him roman 2.0 and is WAY better when he gets to insert his obvious real personality and put a little comedic spin on it.
but any hint of comedy in your wrestling puts maybe the stinkiest stink of them all on you that keeps you from being at the very top.

>>17964019 (OP)
The stars of tomorrow will include names that no one would predict today. Ten years ago did anyone see Cody or Drew becoming main event talent, probably not. The beauty of wrestling is that there has to be winners and losers. Winners end up becoming stars so in theory it's not difficult to make stars.

>>17964019 (OP)
>There is barely any new talent that can rise to the top of the ticket
the wwe itself is the draw not the individuals. its been like that for 20yrs now. honestly vince was the biggest draw for years after he started to wrestle. wrestlemania is like the superbowl people are going to go to it no matter whos in it

>>17964019 (OP)
You got most of my predictions

Hell they might get desperate and get Brock's daughter to get in there for the WWE title.
They may get valvateen dream if things crash badly because what else are they losing?
Kidnap a couple of well established stars from AEW like Allen in the future that will run the the main event scene maybe mix in some TNA/AAA stars who knows.

You never know? the GREATEST Professional wrestler could be 10 yrs old right now watching how bad the product is and get inspired to change the world soon.

>>17973851
10 years ago, Cody was over in the midcard while teaming with Goldust and COULD HAVE been pushed to the main event with the storyline he was in. So yes you could've seen him as potential main event talent then. But they made him Stardust instead.

>>17964019 (OP)
>Who's going to carry the company for the next 10 years

Oh I am laffin. Nobody carried the company for the last ten years, why would there need to be anyone to carry it for the next ten? The real delusion here is that there's an entire containment board for a hobby that stopped being relevant decades ago.

>>17973851
This is true. Wrestling is predictable in the short term but forget about even a year out, let alone 5-10 years. A top program two years from now could be some off-the-wall shit Hangman Page vs Wade Barrett.

>>17974080
>Stardust
>potential main event

>>17974087
The only other sport worthy of its own board is soccer and /sp/ is over 60 percent soccer. Wrestling is the king of sports.

Are you living under a rock? Wrestling is on fire right now.
>WWE holds shows in sold out arenas every week
>AEW's been selling out the smaller venues they've used and has momentum again
>TNA is alive and doing better than it has in 8 years
>AAA will grow bigger than ever under TKO ownership

>>17973257
No way it lasts even to the end of the year

>>17973739
Scott Steiner's son is coming.

>>17964019 (OP)
not sure how old they're
but I find the Creed Bros neat

>>17970719
bron was over before this stable?

>>17974963
the office was big on julius but he keeps fucking up every opportunity they give that retardf
which is a shame because brutus is the michaels

>>17974603
Does he have some edge to him? The ability to cut an acerbic promo and drop some “pipebombs”?

>>17964379
Fatu is trash and you're a shill. How's that TKO money?

>>17970077
>Nia and Naomi is great
Fuck you

>>17971106
>lexis king” get the fuck out of here.
Why? Why is it inconceivable that given a few more years of development that Lexis couldn't be a decent mid carder?

>>17971065
>Ridge. LMFAO
Ridge Holland is a 6'1" former Rugby player that is jacked AF. He's got the look. If he keeps working and developing, he'll be fine. The dude already has more moves in his repertoire than Roman, Cena, or Jey. If he gets more confidence and promotion, the dude is a star. I remember people lmfao'ing me on this shit board when I said LA Knight could work the main roster based on his NXT work.

>>17970830
>The Cena tunnelvision was so strong that an entire generation of midcard guys never had a crack at moving up
Not really. Punk and Daniel Bryan got their shot. At various times other guys had the belt. The Miz. Dirk Diggler. John Morrison. Kofi and Big E. AJ. Finn Balor. Yeah, Vince kept coming back to Cena and Roman for some reason, but other guys cracked the upper card.
>What that's done is caused a bubble of main event potential guys to all cram in to the upper midcard
I'd agree with this, with the exception of black dudes. They really dont have any good black wrestlers, and no Carmelo isn't good. Which is why they are prepping Trick and Oba. Other NXT guys can hang with them. Dudes like D'Angelo come to mind. But the main roster needs Trick and Oba right now, because Trick and Oba are legit and they dont feel like they are DEI hires when they are on the screen.
>That's why tag team wrestling has grown to mean fuck all.
Which is why Fraxiom got the call up and why Hank and Tank aren't far behind.

>>17977167
he's 37 years old
he'll never shed the big E crippling stink

>>17977484
Yeah but on the other hand he shed the Nig E stank outside of PLE kickoff shows. He should wrestle Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods next.

>>17977484
How old.was LA Knight when he was on the NXT roster?

>>17970807
A 6'5" 23 year-old second generation wrestler who is on NXT, a show you clearly don't watch.

>>17977754
Which time?

>>17977871
I dunno. Maybe the run where he was LA Knight and not using the name Slate Randall, which is why I didn't ask about a Slate Randall run.

>>17970806
Let them develop for another year. Introduce them exactly like WWE introduced the Shield. They are over.

>>17974098
In both bad and good ways, AEW existing definitely threw a complete fucking curveball in the situation
Sting, Edge, Christian, CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Nigel McGuinness and Katsuyori Shibata were all retired 8 years ago. Only one of these men is fully retired in 2025.

>>17977754
for however old he is, LA knight is also just a way better wrestler in all regards than ridge holland and was before he even got to NXT. and he got over fast.
ridge sucks, always sucked, hasn't gotten any better and has had legitimate go away heat with the entire audience for years.

Wren Sinclair will bring the women to new heights

>>17978441
>ridge sucks, always sucked, hasn't gotten any better and has had legitimate go away heat with the entire audience for years.
So basically Ridge is exactly like Roman before he got his massive push and Ridge can absolutely succeed on the main roster.

>>17977091
kys faggot. are you a joshipedo mad that nia keeps squashing your uggos lol

>>17978465
except Ridge will never get a massive push because not Roman and also involved in crippling of Big E if he wasnt directly
responsible

>>17974133
>You
>Reading comprehension

>>17977868
Nobody does gramps

>>17964170
He's flavour of the month with little character depth. As Solo says no brains.

NXT needs to give Tavion Heights a push. His belly to belly is kino.

trick williams is the most obvious sure thing main eventer to ever come out of nxt. this heel run has finally gotten him confident in the ring too. if he's not made the next ace of wwe, they have seriously fucked up. he's cool in a way thats natural, he's finally the black main eventer of their dreams, he plays a great heel and great babyface, he has an incredible look and he's funny and charismatic. he should honestly be called up right now and be given a rocket push

>>17972004
Carmelo Hayes is a midget, Oba is not. Hes more Bron

>>17969343
MJF will go to Hollywood. Darby will go to the bingo halls. Swerve...maybe?

every time you guys do this shit you pretend NXT doesn't count

>>17981732
face Trick is a fucking wet noodle. "I'm here to prove myself, to be a champion! I don't know who i am without a championship." Shit was soft.

Once he went heel, he fucking blew the roof off with real mic skills and is actually borderlining with some of his promos referring to other wrestlers as "light skin midgets."

>>17981421
Then why the fuck are you in a thread about future WWE wrestlers if you dont know fuck all about WWE's developmental wrestlers.

>>17980149
The point being, if they want to, they have tons of guys in developmental they can push that are just as talented as their main roster guys. And maybe Ridge got fucked because Big E cant tuck his head on a suplex, but he's been involved in a ton of major NXT storyline over the last year.

>>17981893
face trick was good when he first won the title off ilja and he was a shit talking babyface. it was only when they started giving him white meat babyface scripts that it started faltering, but thats on the material not him. remember when he told oro to go back to africa and then made out with lash on the meta 4 talk show? thats the true babyface trick

>>17969284
heel Trick is dimes

>>17982240
>>17981893
Why does heel trick get to get away with being blatantly racist and no other wrestler even on the main roster can talk like that?

>>17981732
>trick williams is the most obvious sure thing main eventer to ever come out of nxt.
He's got a good entrance but is kind of mid from a match standpoint. He can definitely talk.

>>17982965
No one would care if a white wrestler told Drew to go back to Scotland.

>>17984499
Porridgewogs aren't White, so this entire comparison you are trying to make here makes no sense.

>>17984531
If Scots aren't white, than that comparison makes even more sense

>>17985471
They aren't even human

>>17985486
lol

>>17985471
Scots aren't white, but their skirts are tight tight tight.

>>17984531
haha it's funny because you're a 3rd world literal shit-eating leftist saying random obviously White ethnic groups aren't White

>>17985543
Scots aren't white, they aren't people in any meaningful sense of the world and anyone from the British isles calling someone else a "3rd worlder" is simply the rankest form of projection imaginable.

Seethe+mald+cope+bognigger

>>17978465
ridge is almost a decade older than roman was when he got his gigapush. he has a proven track record of never getting over and giving career ending injuries to his opponents. he isn't related to the rock. and the roster is not in the same place it was when roman became the big dog. the generational top star of the company isn't stepping back without a clear successor and vince's bisexual lust to force one at any cost. and if they needed one, why in gods name would they ever pick ridge holland, among all the wrestlers they have? "he's got the look" so dozens of other, younger, better worker, safer, more over guys.

>>17985543
Ser white isn't a proper noun. Learn English.

>>17981802
Nobody watches it.

>>17981736
>not midget
>more Bron

>>17982132
I came here to laugh at Wrestling With Elderly

>>17984531
>>17985486
>>17986049
esoteric way to admit you're gay fellas

>>17987508
Instead you just made yourself look like a moron. I always appreciate a good self-own.

>>17987218
>(ridge) has a proven track record of never getting over
Being in a comedy stable with an ftm vegan tranny (Pete Dunne) isn't a proven track record of not getting over. No one can survive association with Pete Dunne.
>he has a proven track record giving career ending injuries to his opponents.
Big E was a fucking moron and didn't tuck his head on a suplex. Big E fucking up is not equal to Ridge having a "track record of injuring opponents"
>why in gods name would they ever pick ridge holland, among all the wrestlers they have?
Nuance motherfucker. I didn't say WWE is going to give Ridge a Roman push. I said Ridge is more talented than Roman (he literally is) and if they wanted to push him, they could. The notion that WWE has no talent is laughable (which is the topic of the thread). WWE has so much talent they could never push the talent they have. As you admit, WWE has dozens of people as talented as Ridge.

>>17982253
dammit he’s hollywood trick

>>17964019 (OP)
Nobody at Evolve is ready, 80% of NXT are green shitters with no mic skills and little charisma.

>>17964019 (OP)
>Miz
>LA Knight
>Gunter
>Usos
>Finn balor
>Drew McIntyre
>Cody rhodes
>Kevin owens


They all have another decade left in them

>>17991503
At least. Probably more. Plenty of wrestlers drew dimes well into their 60s, and while lifespans aren't really increasing, the length of time people are healthy and capable of being physically fit is. (Kind of weird those two things aren't more connected.) I expect the Usos, Finn, and Cody to be able to go for a really really long time.

>>17987810
WWE has the talent on the men's roster but they have shit bookers, particularly midcard on main roster.

>>17989924
>80% of NXT are green shitters with no mic skills and little charisma
So they are basically like the main roster shitters, just less green.

>>17992413
You aren't wrong. WWE is loaded and all they can do is sign another NJPW Samoan/Tongan and keep the Bloodline story on life support. Same with the women though. A stacked roster and all you get is Nia Jax every week.

>>17964196
>The most obvious guys to be on top in future WWE (which are not yet late 30's or older) are all nepo babies
Wrestling has ALWAYS been a nepobaby business..

>>17964883
Speaking of which, Odyssey Jones could’ve been in this discussion but got kwab’ed by allegations. Looked like a beast and was very over in the few weeks he was on TV. Was it even proven that he did any wrong?

>>17975515
>keeps fucking up
Provide a recent example
Although I don’t know if I’ve ever even heard this dude on the mic

>>17992469
Wasn't he off TV for like 2 years before there even were any allegations?

>>17992503
Yeah but he had that brief New Day angle and the crowd loved him. Then they fired his ass

>>17992469
did he ever beat the allegations?

>>17995036
You don't beat allegations. That's the point of allegations. Even if he's innocent his character has been assassinated and he's damaged goods. The only way to beat allegations is to keep crazy bitches out of your life before they make allegations.

>>17995036
You don't beat allegations. That's the point of allegations. Even if he's innocent his character has been assassinated and he's damaged goods. He did file for a defamation lawsuit. It would be cool if he won, but it won't change things.

>>17992426
The only Tongan left in NJPW is Chase

>>17991503
lmao Miz is a shitter, LA KWAB isn't much better, the Usos are washed and Owens is sawdusted.

>>17987735
You must love the post you just made then.

>>17997209
>nuh uh. you are.
Brilliant comeback there pajeet

>>17997204
So you are saying at some point the Bloodline story will end unless NLPW starts signing some more coconut shitters.

Bron Breaker
Jacob Fatu
Dominik Mysterio
Oba Femi
Javon Evans

Steal from other companies
Santana (TNA)
MJF (AEW)

>>17997390
kek this loser is jobbing his own headspace to Indians

>>17997425
>Santana
LMFAO

>>17964093
HHH hates black men and will never make them a main eventers. Trick and Oba are done once they join Raw or Smackdown.

>>17964019 (OP)
None

>>17964019 (OP)
there's a few things contributing to the dearth of new main event level stars
>triple nose has favorites who he always pushes at the expense of others, even if they suck (like diy or seethe bawlins)
>he also doesn't capitalize on people when they get over right away, like how in 2023 LA Knight was giga over and he gave him a run with a midcard belt a year later. i understand its probably from a place of caution where he doesn't want to fuck anything up but taking risks is how guys like mick foley got over.
>the bloodline without roman is now a vortex of anti-dimes samoans that is sucking in midcarders who may otherwise have the ability to be a main eventer. jacob breathed a little life into it, but he's out of it now so its back to solo shitting up the upper midcard
>the ultra long title reigns from a few years ago meant the main event was pretty much locked in for years, so there weren't opportunities for someone new to be on top. it also created a pretty sizeable crop of would be main eventers who are all bunched up at the upper midcard now after never getting their run in the main event.
>nxt is good as a developmental brand, but can sometimes keep people down there too long. Oba and Trick specifically are basically carrying the entire nxt men's division by themselves so i doubt they will go up any time soon. I also think Tatum Paxley is probably the best woman they have there but they aren't really doing anything with her either
>wwe is starting to suffer from the same roster bloat issue aew does. there's too many people now so no one but the absolute best of the best goes to the top (like bron)
i'm sure five years from now it'll probably be someone totally unexpected like Shiloh Hill as the new ace but it's a bit hard to see right now who the next big thing is.