WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE 2 DEVELOPMENT SHOWS? - /pw/ (#17981955) [Archived: 1067 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:29:44 PM No.17981955
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>NTX is development for main roster
>Evolve is development for NXT

How the fuck are any young wrestlers in their prime supposed to actually make a splash when they have to spend 8 years in development hell carrying shitty 2nd and 3rd tier shows before they can hit the main event?

Most of these fuckers will be in their mid-30s by the time they get to Raw/smackdown and they'll ultimately become midcard jobbers because of how long it took for them to transition to where the mainstream wrestling fan watches.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:31:26 PM No.17981964
None of what you said makes sense. If they weren't on Evolve they'd just be in the performance center, not on TV.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:32:59 PM No.17981977
The people on Evolve are super green and years away from big TV wrestling anyway. The only difference is people can actually see them beforehand instead of it being in florida gyms and house show reports like before
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:34:50 PM No.17981988
>>17981964
Evolve and NXT are on TV for rating and adshare, which means they have to entertaining and profitable.
This is a problem as talent that is way beyond ready for the main roster like Trick and Oba can't leave until they train up someone else to carry these 2nd rate brands as headliners to keep eyes on the show.

90% of NXT is fucking trash and its been over a year of it being the "Oba and Trick" show with nobody standing out except for poached talent like Hendry, Grace, and Ethan Page.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:35:41 PM No.17981994
>>17981955 (OP)
WWE has three developmental shows counting AEW
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:37:08 PM No.17982007
>>17981988
>Evolve and NXT are on TV for rating and adshare, which means they have to entertaining and profitable.
Evolve is super green performance center athletes and WWEID people, none of which would be on TV without that show
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:39:23 PM No.17982022
>>17981988
I want you to take a look at the latest Evolve shows. Its basically LvL up, the greenest of the green. And its on Tubi
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:39:46 PM No.17982027
>>17981955 (OP)
Anyone who is actually dimes or has a chance of being dimes will be called up in a short period of time like Bron or Rhea, or skip it entirely like Fatu. You're getting worked by WWE PR
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:41:51 PM No.17982046
>>17981955 (OP)
they really do spend a large amount of time, money and effort on developing people. it's weird, especially when you consider their success rate.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:49:07 PM No.17982084
>>17981955 (OP)
NXT is an acting school now.
Evolve is where they learn the moves.
The psychology is all worked out for them by the agents. They don't have to learn shit, just the lines for the next cinematic experience.
It's not pro wrestling anymore. People who were hoping the WWE would ditch the sports entertainment part after Vince was forced out were mistaken.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:49:33 PM No.17982088
>>17982027
>Anyone dimes skip it entirely
>JC Mateo
>Toma Tonga
>Tonga Loa
>Solo Sikoa
>Wyatt Six

Roster is bloated with useless line skippers while Andrade, Carmelo, Dragunov, JD Mcdonagh are lost in the ocean of younger midcarders

>>17982046
In the 90s half the roster was in their mid-20s to early 30s and rocking it as the best of the best. Nowadays talent leaves NXT near 40 like Drew McIntyre, Alestier Black, Tommaso Ciampa, Johnny Gargano, Karrion Kross. And only 1 of them is even in the main event scene 7 years later.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:49:57 PM No.17982092
Blame Vince. That's what happens when you monopolize the wrestling business and kill your talent pipeline.
Imagine you have a Brock Lesnar-type freak athlete out of college or a coke addict bodybuilder with insane charisma. There's no incentive or clear path for them to go into wrestling and learn because its dead.
Gonzo killed the UK recently, now they're in the process of killing Mexico, Japan they've tried to break into for years are trying to infiltrate their companies.

There's no healthy big fish when the big fish have eaten all the small fish leaving them nothing to eat in future.
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:52:34 PM No.17982105
>>17982088
Everyone you named was a part of the bloodline storyline which would make no sense in NXT, or a forgotten tribute act full of people who spent years in NXT
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:15:18 PM No.17982204
>>17982088
>Wyatt Six
each of those guys were in NXT
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 5:19:33 PM No.17982232
>>17982088
>Andrade, Carmelo, Dragunov, JD Mcdonagh
Here I'll answer as the WWE target audience. All four of those people bore me. They look, act and wrestle like charisma vacuums. When they're in matches, I go play a game with the commentary in the background. I'll watch a match with one of them if there's a super cool opponent they have, but that's rare and when I do I'm not impressed. Their ring work feels so difficult to justify even in kayfabe that I lose interest.
>Inb4 work rate, athleticism, unique moves
Literally don't care
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 8:07:45 PM No.17983273
>>17981964
based retard
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 8:08:45 PM No.17983282
>>17982204
so was solo, dudes retarded
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 9:24:55 PM No.17983795
>>17981955 (OP)
Every wrestling promotion in the world have development shows for WWE
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 9:30:33 PM No.17983830
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>>17981955 (OP)
I THINK NXT AND EVOLVE SHOULD BE NON TELEVISED LIKE THE OLD DAYS, NATIONAL AUDIENCES SHOULDNT SEE THESE GREENHORNS UNTIL THEYRE READY, SEEING THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME ON TV WHEN THEY DEBUT MAKES IT MORE SPECIAL.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:56:24 PM No.17984700
>>17983830
at least don't make them financially obligated to keep good talent to keep them afloat on TV
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:12:29 AM No.17984827
>>17981964
This is the stupidest thing I have ever read.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:13:19 AM No.17984834
>>17981955 (OP)
>NTX
HOLLAR IF HAR ME SAAAR
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:14:19 AM No.17984844
>>17981988
it's BECAUSE they arent ready that the show is entertaining. we get to watch the fumble and fuck up before making it to an actual program. reality tv principle.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:16:03 AM No.17984860
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NXT is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to the great sport of professional wrestling.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:16:56 AM No.17984869
>>17982046
its a numbers game, just like hitting on girls or applying for jobs. the more you attempt the more you fail, but also the more you succeed...
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:18:07 AM No.17984882
>>17983282
solo is megadimes u fag
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:27:53 AM No.17984943
>>17984844
Page, Trick, Oba, Grace, and Hendry are all READY for the main event.
But they have to keep these shitter 2nd shows alive because they are the reason people are tuning in.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:32:17 AM No.17984999
>>17981955 (OP)
Lotta talent to develop.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:39:22 AM No.17985078
>>17984943
page is a 1 dimensional gigaweenie who isnt ready for catering
oba is probably good but there will be a sort of power vaccum when he leaves
trick and melo are the same person
grace is wasted on the main roster when she should be crushing my head between her thighs
joe hendry is last months flavor