Vikingo Boo'd Out The Building in Mexico - /pw/ (#18009756) [Archived: 1031 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:50:27 AM No.18009756
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The AAA fans in Mexico are rejecting the WWE programming and booing anyone with the WWE stink on them
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:52:12 AM No.18009770
>>18009756 (OP)
All Mexicans should be hung
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:00:10 AM No.18009813
>>18009756 (OP)
Based. All Dronies should be hung
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:01:34 AM No.18009819
Mexico is proud of its rapist heroes!
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:02:57 AM No.18009824
>>18009756 (OP)
WWE is cancer to anything it touches
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:04:25 AM No.18009834
>>18009756 (OP)
Based fuck WWE
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:04:41 AM No.18009837
>>18009756 (OP)
did aaa always do these carny entrances at the start of the show? Looks like WWE is handling production
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:06:21 AM No.18009844
jej BASADO

>>18009824
Literally everyone is saying this!
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:11:55 AM No.18009875
Monterrey is Alberto country and they cheered when the WWE team won the belts tonight
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:14:02 AM No.18009892
cuatrero
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>>18009756 (OP)
Just imagine the reaction Vaquer is going to get
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:16:04 AM No.18009906
>>18009892
She's Chilean so it'll be easy to boo her kek
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:17:12 AM No.18009918
>>18009892
mexicans hate vaquer?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:18:32 AM No.18009937
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>>18009918
Have you been living under a rock for the past year?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:21:44 AM No.18009957
Kek Vikingo got go away heat when he won.

I don't know what they were expecting, even if Alberto is old, washed out and canceled, he's still the guy who won everything in WWE, and a great heel too, Vikingo has no aura in comparison despite having nice moves

>>18009918
no, she's mega over here
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:23:08 AM No.18009967
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>>18009957
Literally every Mexican wrestler, company and fan sided against her because Cuatrero is one of the boys.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:25:01 AM No.18009982
>>18009756 (OP)
Did they really add those gay walks ins to aaa?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:26:29 AM No.18009991
>>18009918
>Cuatero’s supporters have been harassing Vaquer the last eight months; they might be arguing the phrasing but not the actions. Cuatrero fans and friends have mobilized under the slogan “#JusticiaParaCuatrero” to question Vaquer both online and in person. They’ve also come up with conspiracy theories to explain what is going on; once you’ve decided that Cuatrero couldn’t have possibly committed the crime, you apparently open your mind to many strange possibilities. The one possibility the group has latched on is a vast international plot, where Vaquer is now dating wealthy lucha libre memorabilia collector Christan Cymet, and he’s using his political influence all the way to the top of Mexico’s government to keep Cuatrero in jail. Powerful people do abuse their power, and Mexicans have reasons not to trust their institutions, but there’s no strong reason to believe that is what’s going on here. It’s a person who was charged with a violent crime whose job involved violence; it’s not a big surprise they’re going to be concerned about letting him out of jail prematurely.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:28:30 AM No.18010006
>>18009967
beating women is part of the culture
every mexican wrestler has probably done it
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:34:24 AM No.18010038
>>18009967
>>18010006
Yup, Mexico has the highest rate of violence against women on record. Something like a woman is murdered every 30 mins or something, beans hate femoids
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:41:16 AM No.18010055
>>18009756 (OP)
Nah Vikingo is just a charisma vacuum
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:50:23 AM No.18010091
I understand WWE wanted to take the title of del rio, but is vikingo the only option to be the champion?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:59:18 AM No.18010136
>>18010091
the point wwe/aaa is attempting to make with vikingo is he appeared on aew beforehand and wrestled omega so that's a dig there but the problem now is that vikingo has clearly lost his speedball and that explosiveness he had prior due to injury, but what the new ownership didn't anticipate is that Alberto is still super duper over with the mexicans and they clearly see he's getting fucked over by the new regime which is entirely fair quite frankly, regardless of what you think of the guy alberto is clearly getting the shaft
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:07:54 AM No.18010185
>>18009756 (OP)
watched this little jumping beans match with Gable and it sucked. he literally does nothing except flip. can't sell or work at all otherwise and he takes 15 seconds to set all his flippy-do's up. awful wrestler
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:31:17 AM No.18010265
This dude was never good
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:44:43 AM No.18010317
>>18010091
Alberto and Vikingo have been the only Mexican born guys to hold the belt since Fenix had it six years ago. Vikingo is the clear #1 babyface at 28 years old. His weaknesses to people on here are mostly ones that other AAA guys will have also.

>>18010136
>the point wwe/aaa is attempting to make with vikingo is he appeared on aew beforehand and wrestled omega

Omega was AAA champion for over two years and after that Vikingo was for over 800 days. Pushing Vikingo isn't some new idea that AEW or WWE came up with first.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:47:03 AM No.18010324
>>18009756 (OP)
Albeerto is literally the pinnacle of the Mexican race, their ubersmench. Over 6ft tall but also brown, unheard of.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:51:08 AM No.18010339
>>18009937
>>18009967
Vaq is mega over in Mexico. Only Cuatrero's friends/relatives or people who made money with him (old AAA management on the way out) share this retarded opinion that he was a good boy who dindu nuffin
You've been spamming this nonsense that everybody is behind Cuatrero for months, meanwhile he ain't booked anywhere and nobody gives a fuck
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:51:55 AM No.18010344
>>18009918
She cheated on Cuartrero so he rightfully btfod her. That's why he only received a slap on the wrist. The point is that women are whores.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:00:17 AM No.18010364
Que pague la pensión a sus hijos
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:09:49 AM No.18010389
>>18010344
The point is that you need to think women are whores to somehow rationalize the fact that you ain't getting any
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:14:37 AM No.18010404
>>18009770
>>18009813
they have the big penis?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:53:28 AM No.18010522
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>>18009918
She vacated 2 CMLL titles to go to WWE and broke her contract with NJPW/Stardom
CMLL purist will absolutely hate Vaquer, AAA guys will hate Vaquer due to Cuatrero/NGD/Hiedra, but WWE mexican fans will love her.
We will see how it pans out.

In other News
-YEET USO got dunked in AAA LMFAO
-Hendry got the most kino custom entrance
>>>/wsg/5900559
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:55:52 AM No.18010529
>>18010522
>We will see how it pans out.
Seriously lol
Where the fuck are all those mexicans rabidly hating on Vaquer lmao
Where the fuck?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:08:16 AM No.18010571
>>18010522
FUCK I botched the Hendry entrance video
>>>/wsg/5900584

>>18010529
Search CMLL and AAA related posts on Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube comment sections after she got signed by WWE and CMLL had to find new champions, also when Cuatrero got in jail and when he got out.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:08:36 AM No.18010572
>>18010522
>yeet boo'd
>dom getting mixed reactions
KEK
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:13:19 AM No.18010584
>>18010571
So fat mexican incel smarks?
lol
lmao even
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:14:56 AM No.18010590
>>18010571
btw she got a big pop at the WWE house show she debuted at, and not a single boo
This shit is utter nonsense
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:16:39 AM No.18010593
KWAB
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:18:02 AM No.18010597
>>18009756 (OP)
They’re all Gableholics
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:18:41 AM No.18010600
>>18010185
did wwe force him to slow down or something?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:21:04 AM No.18010613
USA promotions will never understand Lucha Libre
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:21:26 AM No.18010615
>>18010584
Just stating the facts, take that as you will
>>18010590
CMLL mexicans rarely watch WWE believe me, why? because they think it's carny stuff, same for CMLL dudes watching AAA, but AAA dudes are mad at Vaquer due to Cuatrero/NGD/Hiedra.
VAQ getting a big pop during a house show means nothing because non of the CMLL dudes or AAA guys were there.
But if somehow they do a house show with AAA she might get mixed reactions, as as said we will see.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:23:17 AM No.18010623
>>18010615
>Just stating the facts
lol
>>18010615
The house show was at CDMX, how many times a fucking month do AAA and CMLL run that place?
But yeah there was not a single AAA and CMLL fan at that show lol
Fucking hell man, this retarded version of the story makes no sense
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:23:37 AM No.18010626
>>18010584
>incel
you know where you're at? every female wrestler thread is just a goon thread, nobody cares about women actually wrestling
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:24:05 AM No.18010631
this waifucuck seething hard
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:24:59 AM No.18010636
>>18010615
>But if somehow they do a house show with AAA she might get mixed reactions, as as said we will see.
Yeah, if only they ran that last week we could have known
Oh wait
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:26:02 AM No.18010643
>>18010623
CMLL owns their own arenas, WWE and AAA have to rent arenas that are different from the ones CMLL owns, as I said the audiences are way too different.
But take that as you will
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:27:03 AM No.18010646
>>18010636
Bruh that was not in Mexico, USA has barely access to AAA tapings
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:29:06 AM No.18010654
>>18010626
There's a differnece between gooning and building an alternate worldview where Vaquer lied about getting beat up for attention. Then that the mexican fanbase is outraged at her for getting strangled and of course lying about it, then being outraged because she didn't drop the CMLL belts
Lol
This shit only exists in your head
>>18010643
They don't own CDMX or any other major arena they run like once a month
>>18010646
Yes there wasn't a single AAA fan in attendance at the AAA/WWE show

What the fuck are you guys smoking and what's your actual agenda here, go all the way cowards
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:31:26 AM No.18010663
Oh shit we got a new Vaquerschizo I will add it to my collection.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:32:28 AM No.18010667
Somehow this discussion got derailed by Vaquer
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:34:03 AM No.18010671
>>18010663
Yes sticking to facts and basic logic makes me a schizo, but building an alternate reality in which Vaquer lied and everybody hates her is the pinnacle of intellignece and mental health
You ok?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:34:07 AM No.18010672
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I heard mexican crowds are ruthless. Likelihood of the divas getting groped?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:36:22 AM No.18010678
bruh
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>>18010654
bruh
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:38:57 AM No.18010686
Yup that's the symptom of a Vaquerschizo in the making.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:39:43 AM No.18010690
>>18009756 (OP)
Triple k is just poisoning the well even further. Mexicans clearly love Alberto. Not a good look
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:39:59 AM No.18010691
>>18009756 (OP)
Did he even got booed or is it an aewtranny account? I saw Hendry got a huge pop, so doesn't seem like AAA fans hate WWE stuff
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:41:25 AM No.18010696
>>18010691
Triplemania is on YouTube. Whole match they cheered for Alberto, they're booing hijo del vikingo right now after he won lol
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:42:12 AM No.18010701
>>18010672
they finna rape iyo
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:46:37 AM No.18010713
>>18010136
>the point wwe/aaa is attempting to make with vikingo is he appeared on aew beforehand and wrestled omega so that's a dig there
How is it a dig tho, Gaytch is so fucking retarded he basically puts over ex-AEW people as superior to anyone else. It feels like Gaytch is secretly a huge AEW mark.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:15:27 AM No.18010799
>>18010678
Yeah alright they own Arena Mexico, so what
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:20:09 AM No.18010812
>>18010713
TK buckbroke him.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:27:38 AM No.18010829
>>18009756 (OP)
No, they just hate Vikingo because he sucks and Alberto is popular.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:30:19 AM No.18010833
They also booed Latin Lover and Hamburguesa by association
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:39:57 AM No.18010864
>>18010799
>Backtracks in both statements about attendance and arenas being owned
>S-so w-hatttt??
NTA but jesus Vaquertards can't be this idiotic
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:46:14 AM No.18010884
>>18010864
>uuuh actually they own that arena, so uuuuh that means that you're like, wrong on everything I couldn't argue against
Go get strangled you worthless prick
What the fuck is wrong with you
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:55:45 AM No.18010903
>>18010884
>Vaquertard: NOOO No one Hates Vaquer!!!
>Vaquertard: NOOO She will not get mixed pops if AAA is now owned by WWE despite Vaquer bringing down some of her coworwers!!!!
>Vaquertard: NOOO CMLL doesn't own anything!!! Vaquer will not get heat because she big leagued the biggest fed in the city let alone that country!!!
>Anon: Brings up facts correcting your statements 2 times
>Vaquertard: S-so w-hatttt??
You are worst than Lyratards
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:00:03 AM No.18010914
>>18010903
The only fact you cited is the ownership of Arena Mexico, which I literally never disputed, especially when the topic was who owns CDMX, and what kind of crowd goes there
The rest is literally just your headcanon based off comments by fat Mexican smarks you read on twitter
I really don't give a fuck why women trigger you so much or why arguing that she did indeed get beat up, that it was indeed bad, and that the actual crowds don't share your schizoid delusions, sends you into such a rage
Unironically get help, you have an actual problem with reality
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:01:49 AM No.18010918
>>18010799
CMLL actually owns 4 of the most commonly used arenas for wrestling in Mexico don't be disingenuous
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:05:39 AM No.18010929
>>18010918
I'm not disingenuous, Vaquer got a big pop at her WWE debut at CDMX, an arena both AAA and CMLL run regularly but don't own
You samefag this topic in the hopes that it will make your schizo delusions look more acceptable because you got a completely unrelated fact off wikipedia
It's pathetic
Show us on this doll were Big Steph touched on
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:06:55 AM No.18010932
>Thinks no one can hate Vaquer despite having baggage
>U-U-nironically get help!!!! You have an actual problem with reality!!!
Says the retard thinking no one can hate a person carrying baggage
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:08:56 AM No.18010934
>>18010932
I don't doubt that there are other fat morally bankrupt retards like you, but there's a reason why each and everyone of these losers is alone.
Baggage. I swear to me mom. The woman got strangled by the person she's supposed to trust, you worthless fucking cunt.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:09:25 AM No.18010935
>>18009756 (OP)
El Hijo del Google is an utterly horrible wrestler. Booing him is always the proper reaction.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:10:25 AM No.18010936
>>18010929
read again CMLL is not AAA let alone WWE they cater to different audiences
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:12:13 AM No.18010938
>>18010936
Yes yes, totally different audiences, no wrestling fan will ever follow more than one company
Are you done with this bullshit yet?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:15:23 AM No.18010943
why does wwe ruin every fed it has a hand in.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:16:50 AM No.18010946
>I-I-i don't doubt that there are other fat morally bankrupt retards like you!!!
>Vaquer:Proceeds to work on a AAA event again
>Vaquer:Her boyfriend gets released
>Vaquer:Proceeds to never be mentioned in CMLL
>NOOOO S-s-she can't lie or have vague morals!!!
Look at your muse first dum dum
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:18:42 AM No.18010948
>>18010946
Even arguing that she has vague morals is beyond shaky and requires soldi doses of lies and schizophrenic reasoning with no medication attached, but the fact that you have none whatsoever is beyond obvious
Get fucked
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:19:16 AM No.18010949
Vaquer is really not that important
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:23:26 AM No.18010958
>>18010938
that's the point, most mexican lucha fans are purists now let's say AAA and WWE do a collaboration event in Mexico, surely someone would boo Steph due to her past actions right? also please read again
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:26:24 AM No.18010960
>>18010929
CMLL does not run Arena CDMX and never has.
CMLL's business model is predicated on being able to run shows multiple times a week in multiple major markets in arenas that they own. Why would they waste money on running someone else's arena in the same city? Do you understand how anything in the world works?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:27:24 AM No.18010962
>>18010949
Fairly certain she's currently the main character in professional wrestling, both from an economic and historical perspective
>>18010958
>most mexican lucha fans are purists now
lmao sure, those full arenas in a hot market where the sport is mainstream are totally just filled with "purists" who irrationally hate Vaq when she refused to drop the belt and got strangled by her bf
Just like WWE arenas were filled with rabid purists who hated Bret for refusing to do the job
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:30:40 AM No.18010967
>>18010962
bruh you didn't answer my question
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:35:17 AM No.18010971
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Does this menacingly in you're path
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:38:25 AM No.18010976
>>18010960
Alright decent point I suppose, the first you've made
>>18010967
What question, is there gonna be a group of three fat fucks with Cuatrero signs trying to boo a red hot wrestler who made her entire career in Mexico when she runs here again?
lol
Replies: >>18010993
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:44:07 AM No.18010993
>>18010976
well at least you admit she can be hated and did wrong by acknowledging her exbf still a disingenuous answer if that's an answer
Replies: >>18010997
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:45:30 AM No.18010997
>>18010993
What in the flying fuck are you talking about
Put your cards on the table once and for all because I'm sick of your shit: what do you think she did, and why is it supposed to be wrong
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:53:43 AM No.18011008
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>>18010038
You got worked by Mexican feminism
>Mexico’s homicide rate is 3–4 times higher than the U.S. despite a smaller population. Both countries have similar gender splits (~88–89% male, 11–12% female), but Mexico’s male and female homicide rates are higher. Femicides in Mexico are legally distinct, unlike in the U.S., where intimate partner homicides are comparable but not categorized as femicide.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:56:31 AM No.18011017
>>18010997
bruh, you can read >>18010522 also you are starting schizo out
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:04:35 PM No.18011147
>>18010344
She didn’t cheat he was cheating on her and she confronted him then he tried to kill her for it
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:19:47 PM No.18011162
No refunds, drones
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:02:59 PM No.18012354
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>>18009756 (OP)
There's only one answer really.

But you already knew that ;)
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:03:38 PM No.18012362
haha get fucked drones nobody likes you
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:04:09 PM No.18012366
>>18009756 (OP)
Has anyone but AEW fans liked this guy?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:05:02 PM No.18012374
>>18009756 (OP)
Wwwhat the fuck?! They need to learn their place. Go along with the show. Stop fighting it. Fucking smarks.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:10:27 PM No.18012418
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So basically AAA is the new ECW? Where the chosen ones get shit upon and the hometown boys get treated like the kings we know they are by the real fans of the company?
Uhh based?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:16:06 PM No.18012458
Kenny carried him to relevancy. Without Kenny VikinGOAWAY has no AURA!
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:17:54 PM No.18012473
>>18012374
You're the smark
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:30:35 PM No.18012544
>>18011008
>Mexico’s homicide rate is 3–4 times higher than the U.S. despite a smaller population

"rate" does not equal total
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:50:15 PM No.18012989
>>18009756 (OP)
KWABkingo will be a good lil speed champion in WWE
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:41:38 PM No.18013249
https://youtu.be/I0y1GbBFBbI

they boo'd his entrance, they boo'd him with a cane, they boo'd his father, they boo'd everyone that ran in to help him and then they boo'd him at the end.