Why did it fail so miserably?

It's booked by a wrestling fan for fans but no one likes it

Real sickos just watch move compilations on youtube

Sickos exist they are just easy to spot like a fat bitch in athletic clothes

>>18100391 (OP)
Because it's booked by a wrestling fan catering to an audience of one, Dave Meltzer.

>>18100391 (OP)
No talent. Bad booking. Retarded fans.

tell me you are a wwe mark without telling me you are a wwe mark. kwab

Started in 2019 a whole decade after there was enough indie talent to put on a watchable 2 hour show.
They also refuse to have a hierarchy. A winning streak means nothing if you’re barely beating nobodies every match. And Tony prefers nonsense personal drama storylines instead of a sports based presentation where feuds are the result of competition.

>>18100470
>WWE out of nowhere
Rent free

>>18100391 (OP)
Just no demand for tranny wrestling for faggots like AEW

>>18100619
True true

It failed due to attracting and catering to the worst subhumans of the IWC. No new fans are watching (obviously) and many long time fans gave up because they got tired of being told by IWC stooges like WhatCulture, Meltzer, and Rovert that AEW's shit doesnt stink so they left the cult to never return.

>>18100391 (OP)
The fans killed it. They are the only ones to blame.

>>18100391 (OP)
Fans can't give criticism

>>18100391 (OP)
I didn't know failing wrestling companies got multimillion dollar tv deals.. Learn something every day. Fraid so

>>18102803
Warner Brothers is so mismanaged they ran out of money to release movies one year.

>>18100391 (OP)
aew isn't made for wrestling fans, it's made for obsessed weirdos who have nothing else in their lives other than wrestling

>>18103066
No it’s not. If you watch a lot of wrestling you hate aew. Aew exists so Tony can hang out with his favorite YouTubers and pay their friends

>>18100391 (OP)
Cult vs Culture, AEW has trained their fans to respond angrily, dismissively, and insultingly to those who call themselves WWE fans instead of wrestling fans. If they could calm down and stop taking their lead from terminally online weirdos with an axe to grind, AEW could grow again

>>18100391 (OP)
wrestling fans are shoot retards and fickle as fuck

>>18103454
The hate against WWE is the natural consequence of all the rotten things they have done over the years. I'm not blaming every WWE fan for it, but that's why the hate exists. WWE has left a trail of angry fans and former fans that stretches back for decades. WWE fans are not conscious of this, and they repeat WWE rhetoric without realizing how dumb it sounds or how untrue most of it is. I'm sorry if people have been mean to you, but it's not really you they're angry at.

>>18100619
This

>>18105694
At a certain point, connotations and equivocation stops mattering and it all becomes a numbers game. You can beat a WWE fan in an online argument? Great! How many extra AEW tickets did that sell? You ratioed @Heel_Ucey when he said some stupid shit, fantastic! How many MAX subscribers just signed up?

Hate can only take you so far when you're on the outside looking in. AEW has spent too much time trying to be the anti-WWE instead of forging an identity that incorporates the BEST of WWE but leaves only the rotten parts behind. AEW fans for their part spend far too much time defending 100% of AEW actions instead of calling out the 10-30% that's driving casuals and lapsed fans away.

Nobody wants Beast Mortos, who always loses, in the Dynamite main event, that's preposterous. Give us Claudio, or Takeshita, or another match-up befitting the road to All In. Give us Samoa Joe vs Hangman with the Young Bucks-forced stipulation that Hangman's title shot goes to Joe if Joe wins. Shake shit up, put the fans on edge. But there has to be a better way than begging top talent to please wrestle this week, and if they don't, we're stuck with jobbers

>>18100619
Afraid so

>>18100391 (OP)
There's a general for crying like a bitch about aew now. You don't have to make a new thread.

>>18100391 (OP)
Because it isn't on netflix? Like how the fuck is anyone going to watch AEW?

>>18107283
Hey, faggot, I made a new thread and basically just pissed in your mouth.

>>18107290
Kek, this. What an impotently seething cuck he is

>>18100391 (OP)
>Why did it fail so miserably?
But enough about the WWE saudi shows kek

>>18107290
>calling anyone faggot
>writing fantasies about putting your dick near his mouth

>>18107332
Seethe more like an impotent faggot

>>18101868
>many long time fans gave up because they got tired of being told by IWC stooges like WhatCulture, Meltzer, and Rovert that AEW's shit doesnt stink so they left the cult to never return.
Realistically how many AEW fans do you actually believe stopped watching due to "being tired of Meltzer telling them AEW was good" ?

Wrestling fans will dump on any alternative to WWE. AEW fucks up and its the laughing stock of wrestling fans for years, WWE fucks up and its just business as usual.

I wonder why he keeps doing it to himself

>>18107283
Keep posting it some more, cocksucker, make that enemies list grow longer and longer

>>18100391 (OP)
You tell.me

The dog wanker can't book

>>18107703
Zero.

Promotion is booked for trannies, they end up all necking.

>>18107283
>aew hatred is out of control this tranny tried to contain it to one thread
LMFAO

>>18115621
Grim

>>18100391 (OP)
Tons of reasons desu

>>18100488
>>WWE out of nowhere
>Rent free
Are they still using that "but WWE!" excuse for AEW's failures?

Pathetic.

>>18100391 (OP)
So you don't know?

>no one likes it
trannies like it aka me

>>18118787
Happy for you

>>18119806
I'm not

>>18100391 (OP)
Study cagematch

No idea

>>18100391 (OP)
Tony Khan doesn't know how to book.

>>18100391 (OP)
>It's booked by a wrestling fan for fans
That's the problem. Wrestling needs to by booked by a businessman whose sole motivation is to make money and it needs to be booked for normies. When it gets booked by a smark for smarks it ends up being a dumpster fire like AEW, because smarks are mentally ill weirdos with shit taste in wrestling.

>>18122117
they can't even sell out bingo halls anymore? oof

>>18122117
>it needs to be booked for normies
You mean the same people who are marking out for Lizard Boy in AAA because they haven't seen anything unique and interesting in 20 years?

>>18122117
Exactly. It's not booked by a wrestling fan for wrestling fans. It's booked by an insufferable smark for other insufferable smarks. There's a reason PWG never expanded outside of SoCal, or why ROH never truly took off on an national scale. Wrestling Fans is already a small population of people, and you're focusing on a niche portion of that fanbase.

The only promotion that did is successfully was ECW because they leaned into the pop culture zeitgeist of the time. Even when AEW tries to do that, they fail miserably (i.e. Space Jam match, Fyter Fest, or referencing Game of Thrones long after everyone stopped giving a shit about it). Tony's not up with pop culture because he's an autistic nerd that only cares about wrestling.

>>18100391 (OP)
Propped itself up and sold itself on being so different and an alternative to the evil fed just to turn around and show they're exactly the same

too many blacks

>>18122632
>he's an autistic nerd that only cares about wrestling
That's not true he also really likes football statistics

>>18122675
What? Why would you say that?

>>18100619
This

It didn't chud!

>>18100433
This right here

>>18101868
AEW fans are a big reason why I stopped watching AEW regularly. The smarmy and hostile mindset is very similar to modern liberals and all it does is push people away.

WBD needs to cancel AEW and put it out of its misery once and for all.

>>18125326
Soon.

>>18100391 (OP)
No idea. If I had to guess Tony can't book

>>18100391 (OP)
It failed because Tony Khan lets his talent work him.
They know exactly how to exploit his fandom against him.
Vince McMahon gets criticised for his last-minute changes to a show, but Tony Khan does it all the time, every week, every single show.
And unlike with Vince, where if you're not a fan digging through dirt you wouldn't notice, it's obvious that Tony can't keep a story straight.
He's in over his head and always was. You need emotional backbone and the ability to say fuck off and do the job when someone comes up to you and says "hey boss I'm your friend, I believe in you, we've had fun and we're having fun now, but I'd like to keep having fun and need you to do this for me as your friend".
He lacks that.
Thus matches happen for no reason with irrelevant stipulations and no rules.

Remember when Tony said he learned something about booking when he realised he could take the boom and turn it by 90° and work vertically instead of horizontally?
He has yet to figure out that you're supposed to book backwards. The blowoff first, then you work out how to get to that point.
Storytelling 101.

>>18127504
I don't feel like reading this but at the same time I kinda do.

>>18123155
because they have too many blacks

You tell me

>>18100433
>No talent

explains why WWE keeps raiding its dumpsters

>>18131458
Be fair. AEW has dumpster dived WWE for years and years, probably 60-65 WWE scraps.

WWE only recently started accepting AEW slop like Lexus King or Ricky Saints, but that was only done to make Tony Kwab seethe. They have no real plans for them.

>>18131547
Truth nuke

>>18131027
Tell you what?

>>18133017
So you don't know?

It didn't!

It did!

>>18100391 (OP)
Wrestling fans are autistic and want to be manipulated. Autists follow whoever is the best at doing that to them. TK doesn't want to manipulate the audience so they fight against him. That's why.

>>18134229
Afraid so.

it didn't fail

>>18122632
I love when antismarks try to pretend like they're normal people with legions of fellow-travelers as opposed to disgusting mutants with a fringe hobby

>>18139179
You described yourself

>>18100391 (OP)
Their shows really got permacancelled?

>>18141539
Afraid so

>>18100391 (OP)
You meant a wrestling autist

>>18100433
We're not talking about WWE here

>>18145412
Wrestling fig status?

Nah wrong take. He's not booking to fans he's booking to cagematch weirdos and Dave Meltzer. Horrible way to book. May as well bring David Benoit as Chris Benoit jr to wrestle Daniel Bryan.

>>18100391 (OP)
It hasn't failed but it has lost a lot of momentum.

People want to jump on that "bad booking" bandwagon but overall the matches and booking is not consistent but not terrible. Heres what the main problems are.

>It isn't a good TV show
WWE has its faults but over the last 20 years they have nailed down how to run a weekly show. No matter how often you watch, its really easy to get back into the rhythm and know what the storylines are. AEW does not do this, if you miss a week it is hard to know what is going on the next week. They also don't have enough replays during matches during exciting moments.

>Not everyone knows how to organically get over
Some wrestlers need a script and coaching for their characters. Others know how to handle it properly. Christian has been doing some of his best work of his career, a lot of others have not. They let too many people with DOA gimmicks go out on shows without having them adjust for a larger audience.

>Tony lacks control over the company
Vince didn't always make the best decisions but at least in that world everyone knew that he had the last word on any decision. Pro wrestling is a weird and crazy place with a lot of big egos, you need someone to lead the pack and keep them all in check. Tony is not that person, he is too much of a fan and not crazy enough for his role.

>Terrible marketing and establishing a brand
I personally never know when the big shows are. It doesn't help when they will have a random dynamite be a special show with a random name to it, or they will randomly have a ppv that they didn't have the previous year. I don't need themed dynamites, I need to know that consistently I am getting specific shows during the same months year to year. Also way too many special announcements over nothing. I don't think that is happening as much but it was terrible when it was happening.

Honorable mention to that terrible game they made.

>>18146174
>praises WWE
>calls AEW bad TV

>5 days and 13hs of necrobumping and samefagging this dead thread
Your life is a literal waste.

>>18145652
>May as well bring David Benoit as Chris Benoit jr
Naw, Tony hates "big guys". Whatever happened to Marco Stunt, he was perfect for AEW?

He won't like this bump

>>18146194
But enough about you when you necrobump Vince Derangement Syndrome threads and “Tonedog” threads

>>18100391 (OP)
because booking for smarks isn't mainstream
you are booking for a small audience of 500-800k people tops

I smacked my Mom when I was 13 and busted her lip. From then on, she knew she better do what I say. AEW fans, if I see you irl, kneel before me or I'll skullfuck ya silly. Seriously, 4th of July, first AEW shirt I see, I knock out the one wearing it.

>>18147129
I think Pigwheels got a site wide ban for posting interracial gay porn
aew fans are all sickos

>>18147839
If I was a citizen of Ireland I would be furious knowing that a portion of my taxes went towards a cripple who spends that money on fast food and 4chan passes to ban evade

>>18103052
Haven't they been cutting tons of shit since the new CEO took over?

>>18148792
The new CEO hasn't taken over yet, but Gunnar will look at AEW and say thanks but no thanks.

>>18100433
Realistically it's the booking. All fans are retarded, and there's some talent in both promotions.

>>18106801
This is the answer to your question. Nothing noteworthy has happened in AEW for years. Booking sucks, just like WWE's used to. Tony has no vision for the future, he thinks two shows ahead. There's 500 wrestlers fighting for 16 titles. It's booked as if nothing matters. Like the booker doesn't really care about it.

>>18122624
Yes, that retarded plushie will make more money for WWE in a year than Assplay would have

>>18100391 (OP)
i like laughing at it
hahaha

>>18146184
One has been going strong for 40+ years
The other one is bleeding out during its sixth year

>>18100391 (OP)
i like it

>>18100391 (OP)
they people like hog on wheels running PR for the company

>>18100391 (OP)
the ratings came in and the results are clear
aew fucking sucks lmao!!!

>>18151308
Everyone quite literally said this

>>18147394
>Seriously, 4th of July, first AEW shirt I see, I knock out the one wearing it.
Dangerously based

>>18147394
AEWtists never leave their parents basement so you won't be seeing anyone wearing an AEW shirt

>>18100391 (OP)
I blame those evil shits at HGTV, personally.

>>18152820
I live in a "sanctuary city", I see AEW merchandise all the time, even the bootleg shit that Danhausen sells.

>>18100391 (OP)
Well, for one, it's terrible

Promised to be a serious wrestling company where wins and losses mattered and then had the penis costumes in their first ppv

>>18154272
AEW has had more cancelled wrestlers on it's show in 5 years than WWF has had in it's entire run

>>18100391 (OP)
Pandering to smarks doesn't work

>>18143094
Terrifying news indeed

>>18156210
Very much so

>>18100391 (OP)
I'm a wrestling fan and the only part I liked about AEW was the Codyverse.

>>18157002
Sounds about right

>>18158008
Agreed

>>18100391 (OP)
Business outsiders write the best wrestling shows. This was proven with Russo and Ferrara.

>>18100391 (OP)
It's boring.

>>18160082
True

>>18161563
Is is truly?

>>18162272
Afraid so my friend

No idea, not a faggot so I don't watch that tranny slop

>>18100391 (OP)
Sickos want Nyla Rose back

It's booked by an indie wrestling fan

>>18164344
nah tony is a black and gold nxt fan and it shows

You tell me

How long before AEW is running slums like picrel?

>>18166484
Oh no....

>>18166484
rovert bros....

>>18166484
Oh my god... is that....
You will be the biggest babyface of the IWC

>>18166484
KEK

>>18166484
Imagine the smell...

>>18160073
What did Russo's subsequent failures in WCW and TNA prove?

>>18100391 (OP)
That's the problem in a nutshell. There's a distinction between fans and creators for a reason. Creators are do-ers, people who make shit and have an impact on the world around them. Fans are NPCs who just cheer them on. The somebodies vs the nobodies. It's a harsh pill to swallow but when the latter try their hand at being the former, they always fail miserably.

>>18100391 (OP)
Too busy watching the property brothers

>>18167844
HGTV is so based

>>18100391 (OP)
The core concept of "televised Indy show with everything from a to z" was faulty and could have only worked if you cut out parts of it, at the very least carefully planned what style worked with what and where to segment it.
But they chose the clown vomit approach to everything , which in the end only attracts clowns.

>>18100391 (OP)
Thread #10,000,0000 of pretending casual fans exist

>>18166484
Holy...

>>18166484
Why would AEW perform in some shithole?

>>18166484
>Baggot Street

>>18167611
WCW grew its viewership with Russo writing. TNA had it's most watched Impact under Russo as well.

>>18168966
Yeah, the casual fan is gone because noxious IWC faggots drove them all away.

>>18170144
>the casual fan who does not engage with the IWC is gone because of the IWC

Anything to avoid blaming WWE for losing a massive portion of the audience within a year of getting a monopoly.

>>18170151
No. The casual fan stopped watching because wrestling shows began catering to shitty IWC orbiter tastes.

>>18170159
Yes famously IWC targeted product, WWE in 2002-2003.

>>18170151
I'm a casual fan who watched the first episode of Dynamite. There was a fair amount of hype leading into it. It bored me and I didn't watch again.

>>18170204
>I'm a casual fan
>posting about a 6-year old wrestling show

>>18170176
>less Rock
>less Stone Cold
>ratings decline
No shit? Not like I expect you to know this, but most Americans were Internet users by 2002. Meltzerist technical wrestler manlet enjoyer pandering was unambiguously in effect by 2004.

>>18170255
Yes. That's all I have to say about Dynamite because it bored me.

>>18170302
>most Americans were Internet users by 2002
not really

>>18170302
2004? You mean years after WWE ran off le casuals?

>>18166484
uh oh

>>18166484
Is that place wheelchair accessible?

>>18170315
>58%
>"this isn't most!"
you are so fucking stupid

>>18170316
Viewership and attendance from 2002-2003 showed there was still a large remnant of people watching who lacked the worst entertainment tastes in existence.

>>18170315
58 percent is a larger portion than 42 percent, anon. That's what "most" means.

>>18100391 (OP)
idk

I wish I knew.

>>18166484
>Baggot
kek

>Several hours time lapses between posts
>most of which are samefagged replies to 1 specific post

>>18166484
He hates this lmao

>>18174535
I can see why. It might get even worse if what I'm hearing is true...

>>18175197
UH OH!

>>18166484
Grim living conditions

>>18175197
Yep. Anon found a living aunt and did an "interview " about the leader of the IWC. Should be amazing

>>18176068
He also gave the Dublin PD a tip about Roverts habit of posting CP, and breaking irish hate speech laws. Have a feeling we wont be seeing the hog anymore

>>18176124
RUH ROH!

>>18176124
Good, hope he dies in prison.

Even still, more people like it than like you. Not an endorsement of AEW, by the way, just... Curious...

>>18166484
Oh snap!

>>18166484
TAKE DOWN MY DOX RIGHT NOW!

talked about being for the kind of audience wwe turned away from in becoming pg but ended up catering to skinnyfat reddit smarks instead
yes people watched wwe back in the day because it was cool, it was about storylines, rock music, hot girls, the focus was on entertainment not some vanilla midget who could never make it in the big leagues doing 50 flips in a row while some faggots chant 'this is awesome'

bump

>>18166484
OOF