It's never been worse

Seth getting injured is a good thing and Rraw will be more watchable because of it.

>>18234602 (OP)
gonna be hard for them to get the pendulum back with how hard it's swinging right now

>>18234608
It's still going to be nonstop commercials and celebrities and no main eventers and pure slop in the ring

>>18234602 (OP)
2018-2021 was worse

>>18234602 (OP)
At least before there looked like a way out but I can’t see it now

>>18235668
name one (1) current irredeemable main event level angle

>>18235674
Seeths knees

>>18235677
just accelerates brons push which was the whole point of that stable
paul heyman will probably be the mouthpiece from now on, which is the role he needed from the start

>>18234700
>2018 when bryan was doing his plant based gimmick
>2021 when the bloodline was peaking
lmfaoo no it wasnt

>>18234700
WWE actually had wrestling during those years, now most of the airtime is taken up by commercials

>>18235700
no sane person enjoyed the bloodline at that point, ranjeet

>>18235719
>no one enjoyed the time when this theme was barely a thing https://youtu.be/n0QT_teLcNk?si=QQcYvXpW3VZp68fS
lmfaoooo

>>18235735
did i stutter?

>>18234602 (OP)
Ebroes...

>>18234602 (OP)
You must be underage. Get banned bitch. Raw guest host era was far worse.

Buy TNA and turn it into a retirement home for old shitters
Don't let anyone on the main roster over the age of 45
Don't let anyone into TNA under the age of 40
We don't need another developmental territory
We need a place for washed and the hangers on who refuse to let go but can still draw

>>18235700
Vegan heel Bryan was based and led to the crowd pleasing Kofimania. But that same run gave us the goofy “who killed Roman?” story where Bryan found a bald man with a bushy red beard to stare at Rowan and it was never mentioned again, and the LOLBROCKWINS shit that followed Kofimania put a lot of people off WWE for some time

>>18234602 (OP)
You know WWE is bad right not because rather than make fun of other companies for having less hype storylines fed drones have been focusing only on how WWE is the "real deal" and everyone else are just "knockoffs". Most of you may already not remember but it was like this back in 2014-2015 or so too when WWE had an undeniably inferior product to New Japan at the time, it's a sign that when the quality of the product just isn't there drones just hang on to the brand name.

>>18234616
>featuring world-famous superstars and celebrities in your entertainment product is…. Le bad!!!
Smarks should be culled

>>18236544
>world-famous superstars
>Jelly Bean

>>18234602 (OP)
Kek what a dying fed

>>18234602 (OP)
2018-19 might have it beat

>>18236544
go suck off a jellyroll piggertits

>>18234602 (OP)
Hard to argue.

>>18236544
>world-famous superstars
>Jellyroll and Travis Scott

LMAO. WWE went from getting Mike Tyson when he was a cultural icon, to two garbage rappers that are niche and only liked by cringe fags. The ICP back in the late 90s were a better known act than Scott or Jellyroll are today, and even ICP were only involved in midcard angles, not plastered all over the shows with supposedly top stars. This is just pathetic.

>inb4 AEW whataboutism
AEW sucks. WWE sucks. Pro wrestling is dead and Steph and Cunter killed it. Tony can do nothing to revive what is already dead.

>>18236544
>you know what I hate about wrestling? there's too many wrestlers
the absolute state of E-drones

Soon they can't rely on the past stars
But they haven't made any new ones in years

>>18238610
don't worry we got Travis Scott and Jellyroll!

>>18236544
Exactly. There's was literally nothing wrong with Travis Scott at wrestlemania.
>FE!N FE!N FE!N

>>18234602 (OP)
They are literally the promo and pyro promotion. Fans pay absurd money for the privilege of chanting along to meme songs while watching cookie-cutter matches.

>>18234602 (OP)

2008-2013 were the absolute shits.

>>18238690
Yep. Stopped watching in '09 and came back in '14.

>>18234602 (OP)
Really? I haven’t watched it in years

It's the worst it's ever been.

>>18238643
Its fucking grim. The entertainment/content per dollar value for a WWE show is abysmal. Hundreds of dollars for about a third of that show being filler or slow, boring shit.

>>18238690
2008-2025*

Lol

>>18237620
At least the Insane Clown Posse know their shit when it comes to wrestling. Hell, they got their own promotion with their own weekly show.

>>18239046
kek partially that part. 2012-2015 was pretty decent. but yeah 04-2012 then 2015-2025 was garbage.

1995 was way worse. Imagine paying money for this card.

>>18234608
>Rraw
X3

>>18234700
2017 and 2019 were genuinely thr worst of the worst. I'd actually go as far as to say 2018 was a rather enjoyable year.

>>18234602 (OP)
Fed's dead I'm afraid

>>18234602 (OP)
Stupidly hyperbolic

>>18234602 (OP)
WWE has been in a slight decline since Wrestlemania, but somehow in the last like 3 weeks the quality has nose dived hard.

>>18234602 (OP)
It's definitely been worse multiple times. even in the modern era we had Senile Vince nonsensical booking

>>18241322
Remember when Chad Gable had a note taking gimmick while Shelton Benjamin just kinda would look weird at a camera then leave?

New Generation era was much worse

>>18234602 (OP)
If Vince creates another fed I'm never watching WWE again

>>18234602 (OP)
It's really fucking bad.
I haven't really watched wrestling since around the wcw / nwo invasion thing, last show I saw live was the raw following wrestlemani 18.
Wrestling is really bad now. The talent sucks. Boring stories, botched moves, zero stars. If Roman reigns and cody rhodes are the biggest draws for wwe things are really bad. I think AEW is no better. Probably more botched moves, idk i just watched a little bit of both of them. Okada is cool I guess but I don't really see him being a draw in US. And I hate that gay loser Kenny Omega.

>>18241406
>New Generation era was much worse
Yeah, having prime Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Bret Hart, Sid, and a presentation that wasn't filled with flippy shit and LED screens and ads everywhere is "much worse".

>>18241062
>taking 1 bad card in 1995
>WWE has been garbage for over a year now
At least that card had some wrestlers that I would want to watch like The 1-2-3 Kid, Razor, Goldust, Yoko, Bulldog, Owen and Bret

>>18237620
>Travis Scott
>Niche
You don't have to like him but he is a rap megastar. Currently sitting at 62.7 million monthly listeners and 27th most listened artist in the world on Spotify.
Jelly Roll however, despite being a rising star, is less popular and to my ears quite trash. Another face-tatted pop/country/rap hybrid wanna-be Post Malone.

>it's never been worse

>>18234602 (OP)
You would have to be a very recent watcher to say this
There are loads of worse eras, be it New Gen (which still had its moments), early PG, or 2019
Yes they can and should improve the product but we've seen how much worse it can be

>>18244544
Vince's schizo era was still entertaining and at least had some soul to it

>>18234608
>Seth getting injured is a good thing
Seth is one of the few guys on the active roster with actual talent.

>>18244608
You can say a lot of things about Vince McMahon, but he was a top-notch entertainer no doubt.

>>18244690
>Seth is one of the few guys on the active roster with actual talent.
Really grim if true

>>18234602 (OP)
Their only hope is LA Knight. If he doesnt leave Summerslam as World Heavyweight Champion, then it's over for the foreseeable future. They have no other cards to play.

>>18234700
>using covid years
ur a fucking shambles m8

>>18244857
'fraid so. As I understand it, it's him, the Steiner kid, and that oddly proportioned Austrian fellow. I think LA Knight is their top guy now.

>>18243557
cooked that faggot

>>18244544
The Braun vs. Shane feud in particular was memorable lmao
>centered around sliming
>Shane's promos
It was kino

>>18241406
kill yourself if you actually believe this

>>18243557
You have a point, but you chose the cream of the crop there. that was like 10% of WWF at that point. The other 90% was such hits as The Mounties and King Mabel. Let's not rose color it too much.

>>18245084
lynchian

https://streamable.com/srwtf1

>>18244965
>World Heavyweight Champion
#2 title in the company. Nobody cares. LA Knight should be the Universal Champion.

>>18245167
>You have a point, but you chose the cream of the crop there. that was like 10% of WWF at that point.
It literally wasn't. I would say they were 40%-50% and bad stuff was so bad that it cast a dark shadow over everything else.
> Let's not rose color it too much.
I'm not you or the other anon said New Generation was worse than the current era and that is completely untrue. People still talk about the great (and the hilariously bad) of the New Generation. Nobody will be talking about this era because it's so bland, corporate and forgettable.

>>18234602 (OP)
yep

and now the womemes champion runs around with yellow tape all over her

>>18245399
kek what the fuck

>>18245399
I wish I could be a fly on the wall near Vince during this entire segment. He wa probably foaming at mouth.

>>18234602 (OP)
WWE is unwatchable slop and AEW still can't take advantage of it
wrestling is pure AIDS ridden shit.

>>18249051
>AEW still can't take advantage of it
They're putting out the best wrestling program in the world, day after day.

>>18249062
That means nothing when the competition is horrendous. AEW is just as unwatchable, but for different reasons.

Naomi finally won be thankful

>>18245435
>LA Knight should be the Universal Champion.
Anon...they retired that belt back in April.

I enjoy
>gable/americano
>Bron breaker
>drew McIntyre
>LA knight
>solos gang (not always)
>Seth rollins
>gunther
>john cena
>randy Orton
That and plenty of female wrestlers is not the worst lineup of material to enjoy its just a matter of using these guys well

>>18249219
Add Finn and Dom as decent to watch sometimes, even JD is s great wrestler

>>18249062
They lack stars

>>18244608
Hate to admit this
But it's true