Realistically, would Rose Namajunas make Chez tap out in a humiliating fashion?

>>18288825 (OP)
Probably. Its not like its hard

>>18288825 (OP)
She looks like her butt smells good.

No. Skill gap isn't high enough to overcome physical differences.

>>18289039
Anon it's Chez.

>>18288825 (OP)
>tap out
yes absolutely
>knock out
no, absolutely not. several submissions don't require strength. Literally anyone can pull off a kimura, but boxing will always go the man's way. our arms are just designed for it whilst women's aren't. she easily taps chez out though.

>>18289059
Anon, I get it, i really do.
But they got 16 year old dudes beating out grown women. Much as Chez is a tool and it's always funny watching him lose, it's physics. He's at least 3 weight classes worth of strength and power higher than she is just cause he's a dude. Plus he's actually trained UFC, even if he doesn't rate. Not even UFC champs been able to bridge a gap that big.

>>18289039
He got completely squashed by a tomato can, an amateur chancer with little to no skill. Not even just beat decisively, but literally dominated. He completely overpowered and dominated him with hardly any skill and even less effort and they're roughly the same size. I have no difficulty believing he could be beaten by a highly athletic woman. My money would be on Bianca Belair in a fight with Punk.

>>18289106
He was tickled by a photographer though.

>>18288825 (OP)
No. Women are terrible at fighting and have no matter how "good" of a fighter she is (against other women), she has no chance against any man in decent athletic shape that has any background in fighting.

tl;dr - Only people that have never been in a fight think women have any chance against men.

>>18289118
>Tomato Can
Gall wasn't a champ, but 7/7/0 isn't an amateur or tomato can UFC record, and Jackson didn't squash him, it went to decision.
You're out of touch with reality if you think a woman has a solid chance just cause you don't like Chet. Your disdain for him does not grant her extra strength like some internet nerd fuelled spirit bomb.

If such a thing existed, Askren would have turned Jake into a red smear and Mayweather would have let Logan fall when he knocked his ass out.

I want to agree, really. But physics and autism won't let me.

>>18289060
this
>>18289149
>>18289106
>>18289039
retards. she just has to pull guard and wait. like anon said, you don't need strength for a bunch of submissions, and chez has zero chance of defending them

>>18289157
This is the response of someone who has never trained but thinks he understands fighting. Rose would destroy Punk.

>>18289157
Jackson was quite literally canned for just tickling and humiliating Chez instead of just knocking him out.

>>18289157
>went to decision
dana white complained that mike jackson was "playing with his food"

>>18289162
>pull guard and wait
You've not only never watched a UFC fight, you know nothing about how dynamic a real fight is, especially when there's a massive power imbalance. Guard does not magically prevent your opponent from shifting to bring power to bear.
>>18289166
>the response of someone who has never trained is to point out the reality of the fight mechanics instead of thinking training is a magical superpower
Okay, back to the McDojo for you son.
>>18289175
>>18289191
Not sure how that's relevant. He wasn't the one that squashed Punk, Gall was.
And he never got a chance to be a tomato can because he was fired before then. So there was no way to check if he actually sucked.
Is it possible you're right? Sure. But it's not fact.

>>18289208
elaborate on why pulling guard is a normie take. She's fighting cm punk not merab. talking about muhh dynamics of a fight doesn't mean anything. she just has to lay on her back and retard phil will dive in with zero real plan
>jackson didn't squash him
>not sure how that's relevant
retard, the fucking ceo of the ufc thought it was a squash and complained it wasn't ended sooner

>>18289149
>decent athletic shape that has any background in fighting
So youre saying she'd win

>>18289162
>she just has to pull guard and wait

That doesn't even work in BJJ. Smaller women just get picked up. And in UFC when you add in strikes it never even gets that point

You have let Hollywood psyop you into a delusional understanding of what women are capable of. They can't fight. They are helpless against men unless armed with a gun. Sorry to burst your feminist bubble.

>>18289247
I don't know how else to describe that there is no perfect fight plan, especially against someone bigger, stronger, and more capable of absorbing your punishment. It should be obvious to you.
>Dive in with zero plan
And why? He holds more than enough advantages to go at his own pace.
>CEO complains about gimmick match he booked because it was a gimmick
We treating Dana Whites opinion as gospel now? Now I know you're an idiot and not a fighter.

I know you want Chez Chettington to lose to everyone so you can climax, and even i get turgid watching him get his ego walked on. But we live in the real world here. Sorry.

>>18288825 (OP)
when did riley nixon got into mma?

you've never watched poofc if you think any woman beats any guy

>>18288825 (OP)
realistically they’d both choke you out with the cord of your keyboard, pussay

>>18289288
>there is no perfect fight plan
false
>especially against someone bigger, stronger, and more capable of absorbing your punishment.
we are talking about submissions, anyone can be kimura'd regardless of size
>We treating Dana Whites opinion as gospel now
you said punk wasn't squashed, I posted a gif of mike squashing him, i posted the scorecard entirely showing punk got squashed, and I pointed out dana said he was squashed. your only response is "we trust dana now?? Pfttt, now I can pretend you haven't watched the sport so I don't have to have a real argument. "
finally, reread ops post. TAP OUT. Could she TAP OUT CM PUNK. she absolutely could, and I stand by it. First ufc card I watched was chuck vs randy going on 2 decades ago. come up with a different cope
>>18289287
I didn't think ronda would beat mayweather, and I don't think 99% of women would win a fight with a man. but rose would SPECIFICALLY be able to tap out cmpunk. stfu about hollyweird brainwashing me, you know nothing you dyke. I've watched virtually all of roses fights and I've seen all 2 of punks. rose taps him out 85% of the time. punks training footage is out there, he isn't even white belt quality at bjj.

>>18289157
Nobody mentioned Gall.
>Jackson didn't squash him
You're utterly delusional if you are saying this with a straight face. It went to decision because Jackson let it and that means nothing since Phil got 0 offense in and lost by unanimous verdict.

There are retards on Reddit that think Georges St. Pierre could beat prime Mike Tyson in a street fight

>>18289288
>We treating Dana Whites opinion as gospel now?
Who gives a shit about Dana's opinion? I have a pair of working eyes and a functional brain. Jackson was literally all over punk with total ease. Punk was completely at his mercy. If that doesn't meet you technical definition of a squash because he let the fight play out then fine, I don't care, nobody asked to argue about semantics with you. The point is that Punk was dominated, overwhelmed, humiliated, completely outclassed, however you want to put it, by somebody the same size as him and with no professional experience. I don't give a fuck what you think of my choice of words.

>>18289431
it's closer than you think. entirely depends on who throws first. if mike lands clean at any point, it's over, but gsp just has to go for a single leg and not let go. you'd be surprised how many street fights end from a takedown, causing head to smack concrete. quick way to go brain dead immediately

>>18289352
This. The best women of each division is retarded

>>18289431
They’re right? lol

>>18289616
i don't think some of you understand how physics work but in no scenario is a 170lb man taking down 220lbs of pure muscle with any sort of "technique"
mike tyson is not a bodybuilder, mike tyson is a fighter

>>18289640
Shit ragebait, faggot.

>>18289652
you watch too much anime you fucking retard
tyson, the guy who spent every year of his career beating the shit out of professional cornfed faggots that were significantly bigger than him, would fucking murder gsp in a street fight

>>18289686
Yeah I'm sure he'd out wrestle one of the greatest of all time, retard. Tyson would cry at a calf kick, stupid fuck.

>>18289706
yes, i'm sure one of the greatest wrestlers of all time that got heem'd by matt serra could surely think its a wonderful idea to takedown a guy who could flash KO him in one punch on the ground
i'm sure he'd be able to keep his distance standing up against a boxer that literally made a career closing distance and winning on bigger fighters
tyson would absolutely buttfuck gsp in a street fight

>>18289640
>>18289686
Boxing isn't real, just go for the legs

>>18289359
I'd probably pay Rose to do that to me.

>>18289734
I bet you think Goldberg would beat Chris Jericho lol

>>18289734
Yeah Tyson the guy with zero ground game is going to KO GSP from his back. Okay retard. Fucking kill yourself.

>>18289640
anon, your logic is flawed here. a 125 pound man can tackle a 6'5 220 pound man. it's entirely about leverage and balance. you shoot a single leg and pull the leg up. Short guys can balance out and be fine, most tall guys will fall. bigger they are, harder they fall yadayada. best thing for the larger fighter (tyson in this instance) is distance. literally zero reason to get close, but tyson is an "in fighter". this is why the gsp match up isn't great for him. he has to get close, which is the only way he could lose
>inb4 "uhhh he's tyson he's so strong he doesn't get single legged"
anyone can get single legged. especially a boxer who has never once trained takedown defence

>>18289734
You're so retarded it's insane. when did mike learn ground and pound? Ever account for the lack of gloves in a street fight? If takedowns are allowed, gsp wins

>>18289640
203lb Randy Couture submitted 275lb boxing champion Ludvig Borga in his first UFC match within a minute.

>>18289743
>"b b b but ALI IS THE GOAT!!!!! INOKI COULD NEVER WIN"
>lays on back and kicks legs
gsp would unironically do this

>>18289403
There is no perfect fight plan. You're a retard.
>anyone can be kimura'd
And they just sit there and wait for you to do it. You're a retard
>retard squalling about what is a squash match
Gall took less than 2 minutes. That is a squash. Learn the difference retard.
>>18289428
>no body mentioned the actual squash match
K.
>>18289461
You do, you're quoting his faggotry to justify your rage boner for Punk even though you're being pants on head retarded about it.

I wonder how many of you got beat up by girls when you were younger. Probably most of you.

>>18289403
>rose would SPECIFICALLY be able to tap out cmpunk

No, she wouldn't. She wouldn't be able to beat the randos in my BJJ class either btw. Maybe in a controlled environment (i.e. friendly rolling). But in a fight, she will get punched or kicked. Women cannot handle the aggression or the power of men.

Rose is only 125 lbs and a woman. Punk is 170 lbs (going by his UFC weight) and a man. She has no chance against someone that much bigger especially the way men are built compared to women, and especially when you include striking. Rose would never even get a submission looked in.

>>18289825
I get beat up by girls now but I let them do it.

>>18289784
>Yeah Tyson the guy with zero ground game is going to KO GSP from his back.
yes, because gsp is going to move fluidly around tyson while tyson just sits there and takes it in the ass
>>18289785
>anon, your logic is flawed here. a 125 pound man can tackle a 6'5 220 pound man.
you can pull up a derrick henry highlight reel that proves this is vastly overstated
>best thing for the larger fighter (tyson in this instance) is distance
tyson and GSP are the same height
>>18289792
>You're so retarded it's insane. when did mike learn ground and pound?
you wouldn't even ask this if you had any knowledge on sports science whatsoever lmfao
>Ever account for the lack of gloves in a street fight?
on what fucking planet is this not an advantage for tyson?
>If takedowns are allowed, gsp wins
good thing there's no point scoring in a street fight, otherwise gsp can lay ontop of him until time's up like he did 80% of his fucking career
not a single one of you faggots replying have ever seen either of these fighters fight
>>18289801
cool, and tyson is significantly stronger than both of those guys with a 50lb weight advantage on gsp on a compact frame

>>18289807
>there's no perfect fightplan
I already said, yes there is. it's just not universal
>And they just sit there and wait for you to do it
when did I say that? You're being pedantic for no reason. anyone with limbs could set up a kimura on chez let alone someone who has decades of experience
>"retard squalling (?) about what a squash match is"
>arbitrarily decides a squash has to be 2 minutes based off literally nothing
what a weird hill to die on. A squash is a fight with little to no resistance. They typically end very quick, but in phils case, the cat played with the mouse. it doesnt change that it was a one sided squash. It could have ended whenever mike wanted. that makes it almost WORSE than a squash. I didn't realize earlier it but you're probably just a philistine seething

Speedball Mike Bailey is a 4th degree black belt and could kill 90% of people on earth. Thankfully he’s a really nice guy.

>>18289845
>"you wouldn't even ask this if you had any knowledge on sports science"
>"on what fucking planet is this not an advantage for tyson"
fucking retard. you clearly understand very little of bare knuckle. the advantage lays with anyone who doesn't have to punch often. knuckles and bones are fragile, that is the entire reason boxing/mma gloves exist. they don't dampen the blow at all, they protect your hands. GSP can head kick as hard as mike can punch. you're just dumb

>>18289845
>cool, and tyson is significantly stronger than both of those guys with a 50lb weight advantage on gsp on a compact frame
And he'd get submitted in the first round.

I've never seen a whole thread in unanimous agreement, that one anon was a dumb retard quote like this before.

>>18289874
Quite* maybe I'm the retard

>>18289863
>fucking retard. you clearly understand very little of bare knuckle.
and you have no fucking clue how long an average street fight lasts, they aren't going to trade blows like your animu shit, tyson's going to fucking kill him and it won't be longer than maybe 30-40 seconds
>the advantage lays with anyone who doesn't have to punch often
you're right, tyson wouldn't need to punch very often for gsp to understand he's up shit creek without a paddle against a dude that probably benches close to twice gsp's bodyweight
>GSP can head kick as hard as mike can punch
yes, this will certainly work against a guy who likely has zero fear of any striking coming from his opponent's actual hands
>>18289864
>good thing there's no point scoring in a street fight, otherwise gsp can lay ontop of him until time's up like he did 80% of his fucking career
>not a single one of you faggots replying have ever seen either of these fighters fight

>>18289888
tyson fought cans for 90% of his career, you know that right? You're acting like he's this Greek God of strength. several fighters have beat his records, punched harder, and faster. buster douglas floored him and holyfield read him like a book. He's not a goat like lewis or foreman. too much of his career pissed away by don king

>>18289888
>yes, this will certainly work against a guy who likely has zero fear of any striking coming from his opponent's actual hands

>>18289846
Not universal means it's not perfect, learn English retard.
>just anyone could do it
So retarded. Go and take your meds.

>>18289972
A perfect fightplan for ONE fight you retard. it can't be universal because it would have to work against every fighter. you can have the perfect fightplan FOR ONE FIGHT. are you seriously just trying to be retarded? who would assume you meant "the one true fightplan". you keep getting caught up on really simple shit to understand

>>18289352
Ok but what if i want to get beat?

>>18289998
>Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.
Weren't you in here glazing Tyson a minute ago and you don't even know how most famous quote.
You know you have to be 18 to post here, dipshit.

>>18290200
I wasn't glazing tyson. I said gsp would beat him. I think you tagged the wrong guy

amanda nunez could probably beat him up

>>18288825 (OP)
I mean Teddy Hart beat the piss out of Punk and he's a lot smaller than Punk.

>>18290469
Teddy is a man. And he's a lot bigger than Rose.