So Paul make his European talents to play as patriotic American luchador that pretending to be Mexican?

>>18462273 (OP)
Unlike Ludwig, Tyler and Pete need this because they have 0 character.

>>18462294
Its crazy how underused Ludwig is considering how good he is. They really got no ideas for him besides being Gunthers hype man

>>18462303
Glad the AAA thing managed to boost him a little but people were already high on him. It’s gonna take a lot of work for Pete to get over because they failed earlier.

What about pushing an actual luchador

>>18462323
Yeah push them out the company. Boring manlets

>>18462323
Ludwig kinda is a luchador now. AAA was fucking impressed with him in the ring. The people have accepted him as one of their own.

>>18462273 (OP)
They're gonna kill this dimes gimmick if they let Pete Dunn and Tyler Bate in on it

>>18462273 (OP)
There are levels to this

>>18462323
so they can do shit like this on TV? nah bruh, let's keep that shit in the tranny rodeo

>>18462328
Remember that asian dude, I want to say Kenta. He went to NXT and was king of strong style. Hideo Itami? Some ching-chong. I called him "Mr. Glass" because all the white wrestlers kept injuring him. Then we deported his ass back to China.

>>18462323
they're all sloppy shitters, I have yet to watch a single luchador match without someone botching.

>>18462375
Obviously this is leading to some kind of Euro faction who shits all over America saying they used to the gimmick to make fun of it and get ahead. [spoiler]Then the real El Grande returns and kicks their asses.[/spoiler]

>>18462409
CM punk stole everything from that overhyped Japanese jabroni

>>18462450
>>18462406
>>18462328
so why hire them and buy a "lucha" promotion

>>18462454
Butch is tge male version of Lyra- a dimeless shitter with negative charisma. Tyler is a no dimes Rockstar Spud regen. This can only work if Gable returns and goes over all 3 fake Americanos and takes their masks in the war of El Grande Americanos

>>18462478
They'll just be Ludwig's lackeys, they'll be there to get beat up by the Creeds.

>>18462273 (OP)
Already running the gimmick into the ground

>>18462491
Butch and Tyler kill everything they touch. HHH needs to keep them performance center trainers only. That's their peak.

>>18462554
Their NXT matches were one of the few things praised by Cornette over the last ten years. HHH and crew absolutely suck at booking opening to midcard stuff. It's treated as comedy.

>>18462458
AAA deal isn't final until the fall. They're doing this to throw some shit out to see what gets traction. Ludwig worked, so he might be a bit busy so throw the two unused European Tag Team guys no one gives a fuck about at #3 and #4 for the moment.

Have we mentioned that the writer's room is ass?

>>18462303
>>18462312
ludwig falling into disuse is interesting because the office was clearly really high on him at some point. it's unlikely they saw him as a gunther tier main eventer but they tanked finnerman's career for a reason and i think that reason was because they saw ludwig as a singles star in his own right.
imo the fourway for the IC title at mania this year should have been a 6 way ladder match, adding ludwig and sheamus. you can still have dom betray finn for the belt but i guess it's not as striking if he doesn't pin him.

>>18462479
nah they are all are going to be under dominik since his new gimmick is king of luchadors and he's the one who introduced chad to them

>>18462715
you know this will end with a Grande Americano vs Grande Americano WM match and all the mexicans will again get relegated

>>18462786
>ludwig falling into disuse is interesting because the office was clearly really high on him at some point.
It seem to coincide with Charles saying Kaiser was in her DMs and Ludwig on his official account posted an old HBK "Madam, you flatter yourself" gif response. This was removed later

>>18462786
>>18462303
Yeah he's a great heel

>>18462294
Did you forget about someone?

>>18462303
How would you push him?

>>18462273 (OP)
Ludwig doing it is dimes, and the obvious ending is when Gable heals up, he angrily tries to take the gimmick back in a mask v mask match but loses to the "true" luchador.

Dunne and Bate are only doing it because they are HHH's boys, he's putting them in charge of the future NXT Mexico (because they did SO well with NXT UK), and they are unable to get over themselves so are trying to steal spotlight time from the work Gable and Ludwig have done.

Woah, I'm seeing triples, six El Grandes!

>>18462273 (OP)
But pro wrestling is acting, right? It's all fake and they're playing characters, aren't they? That's what edrones were cheering with Unreal, so who cares. kek

>>18462294
Ludwig is in this position to lead the other two and hopefully get all three over together. The gimmick can do a lot of the heavy lifting, but you still need some personality, which Ludwig was already showing off.

>>18463919
if that's Pete Dunne under one of those masks, he ain't getting over.

>>18463436
The fourth El Grande soon

>>18462273 (OP)
>>18462303
it's more like
>hey we have nothing for Gunther's janettey (which is weird that they can't think of anything for him and also Gunther is pretty lame because his character is just >muh belt, and he was only good when he was using racial slurs against preist) and these 2 vanilla manlets
>hey let's give them the gimmick gable got over since gable gets fucking everything over and no we won't give him a solo title because he's 5'8" even though he is unironically one of the most charismatic guys in the company and the best in ring talent

>>18462273 (OP)
It's actually kind of smart which makes me doubt it was Gaytch's idea, was probably Heyman or Pritchard. So now twitter won't dare call it racist because it's not an american doing it. Notice how the outrage lessened when Gable got injured and Kaiser took over

>>18462303
Yeah. Kaiser's situation is weird. He checks all the checkboxes and was getting put in some main events. Then they just stopped using him.

The El Grande Americano gimmick may or may not work but it's beneath his potential and it's not really that helpful for him.

I'm definitely interested to see where the Grande Trio goes.

>>18462786
Maybe the "based Gestapo enthusiast from ze German vaterland heil Heetla" gimmick was a bit much for the current geopolitical climate

>>18462323
Again?
I'd rather see midgets getting pushed, that'd be novel.

>>18462458
Because the spreadsheets say that Mexican and other Hispanic markets tune in to see lucha libre and associated wrestling acts in Latin American wrestling promotions.
It's just corporate business. They're not doing it to appeal to you or me, they're doing it to appeal to a market which they think will watch WWE if they offer the product that market wants.
There's just one problem with that. Those markets buy their lucha products because those products are NOT the WWE, and everyone knows that if AAA's sale goes through, the WWE will make fundamental changes to the core product which ruins it for the Hispanic audience and they stop watching it.
CMLL is already on the up due to fans of AAA foreseeing this happening.

>>18462922
El Grande Americano vs El Grande Americano vs El Grande Americano in a Triple Threat for the WWE Mexican Championship with a dusty finish that leaves it up for grabs in a lucha tournament.
No I'm not suggesting they should do that. You just know they will.

The only thing I want now is every wrestler on the roster wearing an Americano El Grande mask and having a royal rumble.

>>18464690
In Triple AAA, silly. A is for Americano