Thread 18486331

This revisionism is insane. People are pretending that he was the GOAT when they didn't have to sit through weeks of television from 2008-2011.

>>18486331 (OP)
Shut the fuck up, nerd. /pw/ is and has always been a CENAtion board.

>>18486331 (OP)
Hogan is the GOAT. Cena is a pretender for a mount rushmore top. There is a difference

>>18486331 (OP)
Why does this look like the mugshot of a sex offender

He isn't the GOAT that a Hulk, Austin or Rock is that's true. But the question is if not John Cena, then who else could have been the guy during that time?

And remember it's not just drawing or having charistma. It's being the stable safe guy behind the camera who won't walk out or cause trouble. He wasn't exciting by any means but he was at least stable, professional and resilient enough to do it for a long time.

>>18486340
>>18486368
Cuck Hogan is a canceled chud piece of shit that never had a five star match and is burning in hell, now sit your bitch ass down and let actual wrestling fans talk

>>18486373
Nigger.

>>18486418
Yeah, Terrance R. Bollea is with them in hell right now

>>18486373
>let actual wrestling fans talk about cena
kek

>You can't be the GOAT if people got sick of your dominance at one point
Absolutely retarded criteria.

>>18486741
The guy that had passion for the business, worked hard for 20 years, always put the company ahead of himself and has an entire catalog of classic matches? Yeah

>>18486748
This isn’t a real sport you fool. The GOAT has to be the most entertaining. That’s where dime are born. Simple.

>>18486796
and Cena has been the most entertaining over the last 20 years

>>18486331 (OP)
Well no matter what he always got a reaction. The crowd was mostly invested in him.
>let’s go Cena. Cena sucks.
>who is he feuding with?
>who cares

>>18486809
Imagine actually believing this LMAO

>>18486852
name another guy who was on top for 20 years and is getting better reactions than ever. dude is this generations hogan

>>18486887
Austin and Rock. Next question?

>>18486796
nah bitch. you ain't in the wrestling bizniz. you gotta be a mark sometimes to get the full picture and in kayfabe John Cena is in the running for greatest of all time

>>18486893
when were they on top for 20 years? both fell off after about 5

>>18486368
Cena was the right guy for the ace. Not building more main event guys around him was the issue.

>>18486427
Hulk may be hell. Still doesn't take away from the fact he worked your ass into a shoot with one simple word

Nigger.

I think people have just gotten smarter and realized a babyface comeback isn't no selling and jobbing out your top guy doesn't make stars, it just costs you your top guy.
Also dude just put up numbers, he's had great matches and was always his opponents best match.

>>18487339
Why are you hogging that much wrestling, when do you get the time to watch it

>>18487421
All of these are available on the internet. However if you post your address I can send you some bootleg DVDs that don't meet my curation standards. (don't post your address)

>>18486368
>Who else could have been the guy

We'll never know because everyone within a shot of it got buried hard.

Batista was better.

>>18487339
>shimmer collection
holy shit BASED

>>18486331 (OP)
> People are pretending that he was the GOAT when they didn't have to sit through weeks of television from 2008-2011.
The people calling him the GOAT were literal children during Cena's run. They don't remember how boring and repetitive the booking was because their brains were still being formed. They're the same idiots that think Cena and Orton had an epic rivalry despite every match between them being mediocre at absolute best.

>>18487498
Kid is talking like the monday night wars wasn't just hogan, nash, rock, austin, dx, and vince cutting the same promo every week.

>>18486368
>it's not just drawing or having charistma. It's being the stable safe guy behind the camera
dumbass take srsly kys

>>18487914
I mean he's right in the sense that it's what the slopshop looks for.

From a fan's perspective I'd take Austin's 4/5 year run, where you're left wanting more over a Hogan's or Cena's where for the majority of time you're wishing for them to fuck off.

From a business/company outlook you'd take Hogan/Cena over an Austin/Rock type due to the length. As time marches on, more and more people will forget and dismiss Hogan's, Austin's Rock's runs just like we today dismiss Bruno's and eventually the Mount Rushmore will all be from the 2000s on. So it'll be Cena, Roman, Cody and whoever's next after.

>>18488284
You never know. Information is as close to being immortal nowadays as it gets

>>18488300
Us today, we have the info about Bruno and we discard that because WWWF was basically regional so selling out MSG isn't considering impressive. Whether you liked him or not, I've seen people dismissing Hogan's run after his death. Strictly discussing WWE's Mount Rushmore from a business standpoint it goes, Bruno for being the face of the company and establishing it, Hogan for greatly expanding it, Austin for saving it, and Cena for carrying it .

>>18487498
Depends how you measure it. Cena has certainly had the greatest run in the history of wrestling.

>>18488376
>Spent the peak of his face run getting booed out to a dwindling audience

>>18488381
He spent almost 20 years as the top star in the world's biggest company. Nobody's run has ever even came close.

>>18487339
>was always his opponents best match.
Yeah almost like any match that didn't involve Cena was an afterthought because the entire show was about him top to bottom. No fucking surprise there then that somebody's match against Cena is the only one with any stakes.

>>18488354
See the thing is, Hogan's was at '86 and peaked 2 years later with the Andre feud and was done at around '90 proper
so that about 5 good years right there
but he kept whining to Vince about guys like Warrior and Hart so Vince being a simp mark milked it for all it was worth up until '93.
Bruno had 8 straight years of being on top in an era where making it in live shows was your bread and butter, and never got anywhere the tiresome heat that Hogan got, especially by the time Hogan was feuding with Savage.
There's nobody on this planet that could be a Bruno today, Bruno was so over he was like the entire east coast working class hero in a world that felt small.

>>18488417
He was a part-time midcarder less than a decade in lmao

>>18486331 (OP)
it's all the little jimmys growing up

>>18488417
>He spent almost 20 years as the top
He hasn't been a full time main eventer for like 10 fucking years dude. He has been either absent or a midcarder.

>>18488417
>Nobody's run has ever even came close.
Nobody will have to. Longevity is not the sign of peak credibility.
Cena was on top too long for no reason at all other than Vince's senility.

>>18487498
>They're the same idiots that think Cena and Orton had an epic rivalry despite every match between them being mediocre at absolute best.
I’m not as hard on Cena as everyone seems to be but that rivalry has to be the most insane lie ever. Most boring matches of all time. Edge and Cena had a better feud and I’d gladly watch the Umaga/Cena matches before I’d watch an Orton/Cena one

>>18488438
No you fucking e drone mark. Even in a bubble, without context, Cena carried guys like RVD, Punk and Danielson to the best matches of their career.

>>18486331 (OP)
He's up there. But this heel run was utter shit

don't be silly. Cena is great, a hard worker, and can do anything, that's why he's in Hollywood right now.
it was just his booking that was bad. he had to make do with what he was told to do.

>>18486331 (OP)
Yeah, I got fed up and tired of Cena at some point. Doesn't mean I'm finna hate him, universally, in every context, retroactively, forever, like some of you smark retard manchildren. Matter of fact, fuck you

>>18488439
Like I said before, we know that because we're nerds for this freak show circus act - the more time goes on and the further we get away from the 70s/80s/90s the less the niche group cares.

>>18487051
>fell off
They FUCK-OFF not fell off and Vince's giga script and strict promo are the reason, they said"nope". John and veterans also complain about the same thing.

>>18488528
>best match for RVD

lol

>best match of Danielson

LMFAO

>>18488300
information and opinion have little reason to align these days

>he is the immortal
>people will remember him
Fucking Roman, Roman fucking Reigns are more well known than Cena as a wrestler, he fell off worse than Austin.

>>18486331 (OP)
>2008
More like 2005.
He was getting booed when going against Jericho, Christian and Angle. Even Haitch was cheered over him. The guy who did reign of terror is more well liked than the "face of the company".

>>18486331 (OP)
I checked out in 2003 So i missed all his shit

cena, roman and cody are the 3 worst they've ever put at the top of the company.

>>18488628
They were already losing overness and were midcarders when they left

He is like Hulk.
They both have a couple of good matches but mostly stunk once the bell rang.

>>18487914
Kys Phil. You were too mentally ill to be the guy

>>18490348
>Hulk
>mostly stunk once the bell rang
You never watched Hulk and you're retarded. Hulk's matches are what pro wrestling is supposed to be: showmanship. Since you're a cuckold zoomer faggot, you should watch Ospreay in AEW as that may be more to your taste.

>>18490408
Hogan sucked most of the time. deal with it.

>>18486340
SPBP

>>18490408
Nobody under 50 thinks hogan matches are entertaining. Shits boring as hell.

>>18490413
You're a coping nigger. Hogan VS Andre at Mania alone is a better match than 99.99% of matches that have ever happened. As is pic related.

If you don't understand the basic concept as to why, you're a low IQ brainlet and should kill yourself.

>>18490418
Really? How come nobody watches matches today but they did Hulk's? Dumbass.

>>18490433
you sound like a retard

>>18490437
Why did people watch black and white tv but don't anymore? that's all boomers had lmao

>>18486331 (OP)
GOAT? Bro got fucking stale after the hustle, loyalty and respect arc

>>18490445
>no retort
You lost the argument jeet. Hopefully you learn something and think harder in future before making stupid ass statements. That's ok we all grow.

>>18490451
Wrestling reaches more people worldwide than it ever has in history. Why is it considered gay shit for manbabies like yourself?

>>18490477
isnt hogan one of the most well known wrestlers? if people think wrestling is gay manbaby shit then what does that say about him

>>18490490
That Hulk was on top when wrestling was most mainstream in the 80s and considered cool enough to watch at frat parties in the 90s.

>>18486331 (OP)
still hate cena
still hate roman
now hate chez

>>18490506
he was cool for boomers yeah, if his matches were good he would still be cool like austin