Thread 18606588

>poach their entire roster
>wtf??? why are there no stars in nujamal!?!?!?
BILLIONAIRE LOGIC

>>18606588 (OP)
Yes, they're struggling.
Because of AEW, Bushiroad, and wastes of space like Memezer.

>>18606588 (OP)
reap. sow.

>make Dean your champion
>send all of your stars to aew so Tony can contract tamper and poach them
>aew wrestlers win your tournaments
>continue to bend over for Tony Khan anyways
NJPW deserves it at this point

>>18606588 (OP)
Stardom lost half their main eventers over the course of last year and have never been hotter than now.

>>18606611
Coomer fed aimed at coomers.

>>18606611
A testament to how good Kamitani is.

>>18606588 (OP)
Why'd they let Naito go

>>18606588 (OP)
The booking does suck though, but HoT and EVIL isn't the problem.

>>18606689
They've got more generic foreign CAWs signed than actual Japanese.
They needed more money for the new giant gaijin.

>>18606588 (OP)
Derek Peterson aka Florida Marlins logic the Marlins won 2 world series by doing a gut then rebuild if a house cannot be restored just start it anew all of it costs less lasts longer wrecking balls are used in construction for a reason retard not saying that's every cade its situational awareness

>>18606721
So THIS is the benefit of partnering with AEW?
>we took your main event scene
>just rebuild!

Japan, as a cultural force on the world stage has shrunk massively. Sure, more people around the world watch more anime than ever, but none of the disposable shows people watch now have one tenth of the impact on the wider culture DBZ, Berserk, Pokemon, One Piece, or even Bleach have/had. The only influential game to come out of Japan in the last two decades is Dark Souls, a game that was explicitly taking inspiration from the west. Long running series like Final Fantasy that were previously the industry leaders have become shells of their former selves. Japan is on death's door as a culture.

>>18606734
I've checked out of New Japan I'm sorry to say. I've taken the NOAHpill.

>>18606752
They have Persona

>>18606689
He didn't want to be a dad.

>>18606752
Their whole culture was defined by having two nukes dropped on them and surviving. That gave them identity and fueled a bunch of their iconic cultural creations (Godzilla for example). The further they get away from that generational happening, though, the less identity they have. It's been several generations since WW2. They have no new identity beyond having low birth rates and men who would rather fuck pillows than their women.

>>18606588 (OP)
you have a poor understanding of what the word poach means.

>>18606807
sup tony
shouldn't you be prepping for your show later tonight instead of browsing a pro wrestling imageboard?

>>18606752
A lot of they put out is so mid too. Like Frieran is the best in the last few years and even that is so middle of the road, nothing really happening type of show compared to evangelion or dbz. I think their shonen series not being nearly as good as one piece, dragon ball, bleach, naruto hasn't helped either. my hero acadamia came and went, demon slayer petered out a bit.

>>18606752
Japan has truly become dimeless. You hate to see it.

>>18606752
No, no it hasn't. Japanese culture is so beloved that China is currently ripping it off. Especially when it comes to the entertainment industry.
Nintendo, Square Enix, Capcom, SEGA, ATLUS, Sony, Bandai Namco... and so on piss and shit on the Western gaming industry.
Godzilla Minus One trounced the American-made Monsterverse films.
Imagine going to this extreme to deflect from the fact that your garbage nepobaby toybox fed killed NJPW.
And stop samefagging.

>>18607045
>Nintendo, Square Enix, Capcom, SEGA, ATLUS, Sony, Bandai Namco
It isn't the 90s anymore, grandpa. All those developers are mega pozzed.

>>18606678
facts. but will she be the one to appear at Forbidden Door?

>>18607076
But still more celebrated, culturally relevant, popular, and earns more money than anything in the West.

>>18607095
>earns more money than anything in the West
Have you not heard of GTAV?

>>18606678
The guy that was less over than a midcard midget today lol

>>18607095
lol giga milennialjeet cope

>>18606611
it's almost like it was never popular and it didn't matter who was booked. i wonder why that is...

those guys were leaving either way. if they would have went to wwe they would never be allowed in new japan again unless they re-signed. since they went to AEW at least they can still make occasional appearances

>>18607274
Ever heard of Pokémon?

>>18606754
NOAH is so much more enjoyable than NJPW right now that it’s not even funny.

>>18607024
They got dandadan, the real problem is the massive flood of low effort isekai anime

>>18607414
>since they went to AEW at least they can still make occasional appearances
And then they...dont?

>>18607511
ok I know it's a meme but I have to ask. Is there english commentary?

>>18607733
Yes, there is. Not every single show but a decent amount. They’re pretty solid. They just call the matches and try to get the talent over.

>>18606588 (OP)
This is an awful cope. They’ve had years to find replacements, all of them are shit.

>>18607754
maybe I'll check it out, I've always liked NJPW but watching them right now is like watching a family member die slowly, I can't do it.

>>18607916
They’re version of the G1, the N1, is starting in September. That’s a good chance to check out their roster.

>>18607733
Sometimes on B or C shows Chris Charlton will make calls like "THAT'S JUST LIKE THE SIZZLING SUMMER OF 1992!!!"

>>18606588 (OP)
The tony khan effect

I wonder what their attitude towards this situation would be if it was WWE who poached all of Japan’s top stars

>>18606611
Because they are actively trying to make as many new stars as possible.
They've got rookies with less than 100 matches that are more over than New Japan's cringe forced musketeer stop-start slop.

It's AEW's fault that the new gen of Japanese guys are dimeless anti-draws

>>18607045
>Sony
>piss and shit on the Western gaming industry
their games aren't even japanese anymore other than their bing bing wahoo from last year

>>18606588 (OP)
>be NJPW
>book Uemura in the G1
>book Tsuji in the G1
>book Narita in the G1
>book Boltin in the G1
>book Oiwa in the G1
>still decided to book EVIL in the G1 finals
>shit and piss all over the booking with House of Torture shit which is even worse than Death Riders in AEW
>event flops
>lowest attendance in last 10 non-covid years
>everyone laughs at NJPW
>rape and PLAP jokes being made about NJPW
>"W-WHY DID TONY KHAN DO THIS??!!"

Nujamals...literally all you have to do is not book EVIL and House of Torture in the main event spots. You can still easily fix this by booking Tsuji vs Takeshita or Uemura vs Takeshita in the main event of Wrestle Kingdom. That's all you have to do.

Book the young guys in main events. Stop crying that they are not a draw. You are not drawing any fans right now anyways, might as well take your chances with the young guys at this point.

>>18610693
huh
nandatte??
you wantu see takeshita vs zakku saybah junia at wrestle kingdom??
yes we book that
you rike?? buy 1 million yen ticket?

>>18610712
This is what they will actually go with, huh...
and then Nujamals will blame AEW for the lowest Wrestle Kingdom attendance of all time. This company and its fans are so retarded.

>>18606611
Stardom has been excellent at building up new talent perhaps more so than any other company

It's a fairly straightforward path to where they are currently.

NJPW starts to gain momentum with Tanahashi and Nakamura in the late 2000's. Just as WWE starts to stagnate under the PG era. TNA, as an alternative to WWE, rises and falls in a short span. Fans are left with little outlet.

NJPW, long a haven for only the most hardcore smarks in the west, starts to experiment with English-friendly options and books more indy darlings. All the while their main acts display a more flashy entertaining style. Exiled smarks find footing.

Bullet Club rises under Devitt and later rises even higher with Styles. WWE is tanking in popularity, TNA is dead.

WWE in desperation decides to pick up two of the biggest stars in Japan: Styles and Nakamura. Suddenly NJPW is seen as a tryout league of sorts. WWE referencing NJPW sends more eyes to the company... including a money mark dog wanker.

Gedo is riding high and getting lazy. Okada/Tana/Naito + Gaijin works. No need to build anyone else. Young Lions languish in neglect.

COVID demolishes NJPW finances and obliterates their momentum. Young lions forced into a holding pattern. Top guys work hard to keep things afloat, injuries rampant. Bizarre booking decisions aplenty.

AEW forms and NJPW is gutted from top to bottom. Okada leaves without putting over anyone. Omega gone. Ospreay after that. Tana is broken. Naito has no knees. Suzuki is old, leaves. Every experiment is a failure.

AEW offers a golden collar, money at the cost of their soul. Gedo continues huffing his own farts. Reiwa Muskateers are booked like losers. Uemura and Oiwa are not even considered. Let's just keep pushing the same glorified midcarders and tired factions, while AEW dictates our big shows.

*cue a senile, long past relevant, writer: it's all EVIL's fault.

>>18606689
Is Naito even wrestling anymore?

>>18606588 (OP)
Its not just all the poaching but that next generation who were supposed to be the main event right now pretty much all went bust. Who was the last young lion to be an over main eventer? Takahashi who dusted himself back to the midcard? Maybe Sanada who himself is a faded star?

when you think of njpw as an extension of AEW then actually the booking is great
Takeshita winning the G1 is huge for AEW, it might just be what he needs to finally get the best of a killer like Daniel Garcia

>>18606611
They actually replace old main eventers by making new ones out of already popular mid-carders or pushing homegrown young breakouts to the moon.
Everyone else it just poaching stars from other companies or bringing back geriatrics ad nauseam.

>>18610971
Imma throw it out there, I inherently trust NJPW's experience and leadership over AEW who's younger and doing everything to garner attention. I would prefer NJPW to be the big brother to AEW in this situation

Reap sow