Thread 19045997

Why did Tony delegitimize this gimmick by having Mercedes fail to collect the company's top title against Toni Storm?

>>19045997 (OP)
I thought the point was she's coping by only being #2 in AEW

>>19045997 (OP)
I can only imagine Toni didn't want to put her over. Because it would make no sense for Tony to shove her down everyone's throats the way he had and has since just to not follow through there. Would make sense about Toni dropping the title to Statlander too, somehow Mercedes has a history of matches with

You don't get it she's working you

it would make anons mad if she won the world title anyways

>>19045999
They've never once made this a clear part of character if that's the case. Everyone always jerks her off as if she's the best. Even one of Toni's promos going into their match had her say that she would be happy to lose her title to someone like Mercedes. They've never made her out to be a failure of any kind on tv. Even after she lost at All In she disappeared for weeks, no sold the loss, and came back with an additional no-name indie belt

>>19046005
toni storm has won the aew title 4 times already dropping the belt to kris meant nothing

>>19045999
It’s exhausting. I don’t even know who the woman’s world champ is but apparently all these titles don’t mean shit cause Mone can’t beat her. And if she does, she’s still the obnoxious bitch who buried the indy woman’s scene.

>>19045997 (OP)
Based Big Tone is Big Leaguging all the indie shithouses that pledged their belts to her and buried them.

>>19046007
>she's working you
Except she isn't anon. No one is paying money to see her. The crowds don't react. The arenas are still empty. The ratings are still plummeting to the lowest they ever have. If this is all some big "work" with her then they've successfully worked themselves into a shoot

>>19046015
It's not about what it meant for Toni but rather now the belt is on someone who has and will have no problem putting over Mercedes

>>19045997 (OP)
>look at all these meaningless props I was handed
>this means I'm the best wrestler ever
It's an unfathomably stupid gimmick and it never had any legitimacy in the first place.

>>19045997 (OP)
The point is that someone who isn’t good enough to be AEW World champ is still better than everyone in the indies and CMLL. Mercedes and big dick Tony big leaguing everyone

>>19046052
>AEW World champ is still better than everyone in the indies
What's the difference?

>>19046052
If Statlander is better than the horse the how come the horse has 10,000 toy belts and Statlander doesn't? None of it makes sense.

>>19046052
If Statlander is better than the horse then how come the horse has 10,000 toy belts and Statlander doesn't? None of it makes sense.

>>19046014
Oh. I guess I should pay more attention then. AEW is only good for matches. Their storytelling has always sucked.

>>19045997 (OP)
Why didn't the WWE belts come out?

>>19046051
this gimmick also only works on men and only on a guy who looks like a beast, it doesn't work for a ugly skinny woman who only fights other ugly skinny women

>>19045997 (OP)
It's a rib.

You would think that a pay off to an angle like this would be for Mercedes to win the women's World title so she would eventually have to (as a heel) wrestle two championship matches in one night and potentially lose them because of that challenge.

Unless that is still the plan having all these belts revolve only around the TBS title doesn't mean much unless they were showcasing clips of those promotions like NXT does with TNA or promo upcoming title bouts.

>>19046093
You don’t need toy belts when you got the biggest prize in sports entertainment. Did Floyd Mayweather ever go for the intercontinal wbo super flyweight or the wba national junior featherweight title when he was on top?

>>19045997 (OP)
Who gives a fuck, Toni beating her was the correct choice and more important than her toy belt collection.
Anyway, you could argue it just makes Toni's win even more important.

>>19046102
I mean I like what you're saying. You added some actual depth to it. If anything her act would be way better off if that's how it was treated. But her ego is far too big to ever lean into her real life insecurities even if it'd make for a good story. You're not wrong about the storytelling. Here we are again with fans having head canon better than what they're actually presenting

>>19045997 (OP)
this shit is so dumb lmao. id be so pissed if she was the champ of my local indie and never defended it

>>19046483
What ego you dumb jeet lmfaoo

>>19046502
>The entire time she's in WWE she's denied any world title reign longer than one defense
>The first thing she does once she leaves WWE is become the world's biggest belt mark and go on a ""belt collector"" gimmick to validate to herself that she can too be a champion
That ego. That incredibly fragile, damaged, and insecure ego

>>19046562
she was a main eventer In WWE why do you get mad that other promoters treat her like that

>>19046587
not mad. hilarious to see someone with an ego so fragile

>>19046628
Do you not read?

>>19046587
>why do you get mad that other promoters treat her like that
Except they don't. She failed to win the world title and only holds a midcard belt. She's never main evented a ppv in AEW. She can't even have a 5 star match. She was made a far, far bigger star in WWE and she chose to walk away from that. Ask yourself the question of why she would just to go to a lesser promotion and become a lesser version of herself

>>19045997 (OP)
why do they count the Queen of Southside belt when it's been unified with the RevPro belt? it's lineage is over

>>19046479
>Toni beating her was the correct choice
Yes but reminder that the belt collector gimmick is supposed to be a heel gimmick. Mercedes is their top heel and the heat is flaunting title belts, they also fed their 2nd top heel (who's the ROH womens World champion btw) to Toni directly afterwards and now besides the Triangle of Madness there's no heat in the division.

With that said what if Toni loses to Stat, turns heel and then teams up with Thekla to take off the champ at WrestleDream? That could be an effective way to build up Thekla for a high profile title match with Stat.

>>19045997 (OP)
because toni has more creative control

>>19045997 (OP)
Half of those belts look like they're made of plastic.

>>19046837
>She was made a far, far bigger star in WWE and she chose to walk away from that.
she was holding tag titles with naomi you fucking jeet

>>19046846
Why do they count the Owen Hart Tournament belt? No one else has carried that thing around months later after winning the tournament.

>>19046884
The 24/7 title is a bigger deal than AEW title

>24/7 title
are you stuck in 2021

>>19045997 (OP)
>Why did Tony delegitimize this gimmick
Because her belts are fucking inconsistent. Her main belt is a midcard belt, her other AEW belt is a tournament trophy belt, she's also a CMLL world women's belt and the rest is fucking indies belts that nobody cares. Compared to Ultimo Dragon 10 belts accomplishments was the right place and the right time. It's started with NJPW gathered various Japan and Mexico promotions to unified 8 different below heavyweight belts under J-Crown name in a tournament. Ultimo Dragon defeated the inaugural J-Crown champion Great Sasuke while he's NWA Middleweight Champion thus him holding 9 belts. Then later he defeated Dean Malenko for WCW Cruiserweight champion at Starrcade thus making him 10 belts Dragon. Ultimo Dragon's belts at least have more name value of the belts IWGP, WWF, NWA and WCW compared to Mone's indies belts

>>19046884
And yet even those were more prestigious than the 10 whole belts she's carrying around now combined

>>19046885
Because she's a belt mark and the company is placating her to keep her happy. We're all familiar with the shitfits she throws when she doesn't get her way. If she did it in WWE what would stop her from doing in AEW where everyone gets to have their way if they complain enough?

>>19046005
It was more about the fan backlash leading into their match at All In

>>19047432
Eh. Mercedes is a heel anyway. At least she's supposed to be one despite how badly she tries to get cheered. If anything you lean into that and shove it back in fans' faces and get the heat for her

>>19047096
But they're still undercard belts. This picture is up there for the destruction of professional wrestling. that once sacred sport

Niggas in this thread getting worked by a generational heel. Based C. E. O.

>>19047797
>a generational heel
She has zero heat. She gets no reaction

>>19047797
>>19047884
more like a generational failure

>>19047884
>She has zero heat. She gets no reaction
lmfao yeah she does this board is actual proof

>>19047920
>using a board of like 100 people at most (being generous) as proof
seek help

>>19047925
you finna cry?

>>19047904
she do be

>>19045997 (OP)
Omg Mercdes is everything. Her winning all the belts is so inspirational. I'm literally in tears she is so iconic

>>19047948
GOAT shit fr fr

Indie belts for the patron saint of indie shitters.

>>19047904
Turn your monitor on

>>19047096
NWA had fucking no value in 1997

>>19045997 (OP)
He was trying to beat the allegations

>>19048877
Still more value than most of the Moné's belts

>>19047920
>>19047904
>>19047946
>>19047948
>>19048915

>>19048915
boomer cope. NWA had been dead for decades and had to leech on to promotions like ECW, WCW and fucking TNA to gain any form of relevance

>>19045997 (OP)
rank the belt designs

>>19045997 (OP)
Is this AI generated

>>19048993
At least there's more people knows/familiar NWA name than most of the literal who fed belts that she held

>>19048926
BASED! C.E.O. C.E.O. C.E.O.

and yet Thunder Rosa won't let her Boss play with her prop championship? figure that one out

>>19049242
Outside of the US more people probably know those local promotions more than NWA kek

>>19049373
No

>>19045997 (OP)
They didnt want to bury Toni like that, her dropping it to Kris actually protected her. Kris is gonna drop the belt to Mone

>>19049456
It's called a transitional champion.

I do wonder how Sasha is going to lose all those belts back to those indie feds once she's done using them?

>>19048926
Don't show this to Adultime

>>19045997 (OP)
Mercedes is the most accomplished wrestler on the planet and those are just the facts

>>19049985
>Zero 5-star matches
>Can't even win the secondary promotion's world title
Those are two facts which very easily disprove your statement

>>19049554
Injury angle and they're all vacated.

>>19050899
Kek yup. That or she gets pregnant

>>19046026
This post is poetic and beautiful

>>19049554
I think she'll show up again to lose them. In multi man matches mind you. Most of these promotions do not run a full on weekly or even monthly schedule so they're fine with being without their belts for a couple of months

>>19049456
>Kris is gonna drop the belt to Mone
Kris silenced the Death Riders heel turn to lose to Monè? There are a few hotter fueds to be had before Mercedes desu.

>>19051119
Are there even? What heels do AEW even have in the women's division? They completely blew it with making Bayne any kind of threat. She's been beaten. The Hot Topic squad is a joke. They've put all their eggs in the Mercedes basket