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Kayfabe
How does /pw/ feel about kayfabes demise? Wrestlers don’t even pretend it’s real anymore, it’s over. Is that a good thing, bad thing, neutral thing? What do you think? Btw Picrel obviously isn’t the first transgression on kayfabe, lol just the most recent. This is not a hit thread on Chelsea. She’s great. But yeah it’s like no one gives a fuck about kayfabe anymore.
Anonymous No.19081330 [Report] >>19081358
>With kayfabe's demise, so goes pro wrestling.
Taking away one of its pillars, it'll collapse eventually. Expect even more theatre kids. I love you
Anonymous No.19081333 [Report] >>19084761
i couldn't care less, kayfabe was an archaic concept used to swindle people out of money. the modern wrestling landscape especially wwe is far more of a tv show than a sideshow act so it doesn't really make sense to retain kayfabe outside of the show. HOWEVER worked shoots are fucking gay
Anonymous No.19081336 [Report] >>19081342
Kayfabe has been dead for 40 years
Anonymous No.19081342 [Report] >>19081888 >>19088188
>>19081336
No, it died with Undertaker. He was the last guy to protect it.
Anonymous No.19081344 [Report] >>19081517 >>19081953 >>19083030
>>19081314 (OP)
Bitch is retarded and never a wrestling fan. Her own husband shits on her for not knowing anything about the history of the industry she’s in.
Anonymous No.19081358 [Report]
>>19081330
We have failed college athletes and theater kids, but very rarely do we get kids who just love wrestling. J’von Evans is one of the only ones
Anonymous No.19081388 [Report] >>19081404
Imagine Kurt Angle saying “OMG THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH VINCE ABOUT HOW SHAWN AND I ARE GONNA DO THE FINISH LMAO CANT WAIT TO TELL YOU GUYS ABOUT IT!!” Wrestling is fucking dead lmao
Anonymous No.19081404 [Report] >>19081422
>>19081388
kurt angle has a podcast where he does exactly this
Anonymous No.19081422 [Report] >>19084036
>>19081404
Thanks for telling me that.
Anonymous No.19081435 [Report] >>19081466
>>19081314 (OP)
I saw that clip of Darby attacking Mox at Comic Con and like one or two seats away is Swerve and I think OC was there too. In kayfabe they're all against Mox and the Death Riders but how am I supposed to take lil nigga seriously here?
Anonymous No.19081466 [Report]
>>19081435
Aew guys literally do not understand professional wrestling
Anonymous No.19081517 [Report] >>19081906
>>19081344
Yet she is literally the female Miz.
Anonymous No.19081683 [Report]
Why should we, the viewer care, when the performer doesn’t
Anonymous No.19081814 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.19081888 [Report] >>19082618
>>19081342
He didn't protect it, thats bullshit
Anonymous No.19081906 [Report]
>>19081517
Except Miz doesn't post retarded kayfabe breaking shit like this
Anonymous No.19081937 [Report] >>19082690
>>19081314 (OP)
I hate that butterface's grandstanding and that fAdE faggot in the comments too

I wish they'd stop masturbating over le performance arte and just try make something entertaining
Anonymous No.19081953 [Report]
>>19081344
She answers like that because in typical libtard redditor fashion, she's always right
Anonymous No.19082618 [Report] >>19084468
>>19081888
He literally was the only guy still living the gimmick. Yeah he gave up after everyone else did, but ye was the last soldier continuing the tradition.
Anonymous No.19082690 [Report]
>>19081937
Pro-wrestling is a masturbatory business.
Anonymous No.19083030 [Report]
>>19081344
With guys like Haitch in charge, does she even beed to respect the business
Anonymous No.19084036 [Report] >>19084315
>>19081422
to be fair he's retired talking about matches that happened 20 years ago, its another thing to do it with matches as they happen.
Anonymous No.19084315 [Report]
>>19084036
True. Thats a good point
Anonymous No.19084344 [Report]
>>19081314 (OP)
Exposing the business implies that there's still people that think wrestling is shoot real. Those people don't exist anymore
Anonymous No.19084353 [Report]
women wrestling will kill wwe
Anonymous No.19084365 [Report] >>19084412
>>19081314 (OP)
Chelsea has a single digit IQ, everyone knows this.
Anonymous No.19084412 [Report] >>19084420 >>19088184
>>19084365
She attended college. Post IQ
Anonymous No.19084420 [Report]
>>19084412
>She attended college.
Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.19084468 [Report]
>>19082618
Doesn't matter when the gimmick he was protecting was a magical warlock exposing the business
Anonymous No.19084492 [Report]
I'm gay and my dick is small, also I love kayfabe
Anonymous No.19084521 [Report] >>19084560
>>19081314 (OP)
All you have to do is not be a social media chugging faggot and kayfabe will still be alive
Anonymous No.19084560 [Report] >>19084576 >>19084613
>>19084521
>If things were different, things would be different
Anonymous No.19084576 [Report] >>19084622
>>19084560
>if you try different methods, you get different results
Woah crazy!
Anonymous No.19084577 [Report]
https://x.com/imchelseagreen/status/1979474508948836439

Shes adding insult to injury.
Anonymous No.19084586 [Report]
>>19081314 (OP)
like vince russo said wrestlers nowdays are a bunch of pussies bro
Anonymous No.19084613 [Report] >>19084655 >>19091106
>>19084560
Things aren't different you're just deliberately choosing to ruin your own enjoyment of wrestling by looking at fucking Twitter
Anonymous No.19084622 [Report]
>>19084576
>If a handful of /pw/ anons ignore social media, the gradual decline of kayfabe at large will cease
Not crazy, but confused
Anonymous No.19084655 [Report] >>19085106
>>19084613
I don't look at Chelsea Green's twitter, but I am looking at OP's post about it and I agree with him that she's doing something blameworthy. Her tweet shows 100k+ views at the point the image was captured. Advising a few individuals to bury their heads in the sand and pretend it isn't happening isn't gonna reverse the general decline.
Anonymous No.19084761 [Report]
>>19081333
Kayfabe plays an essential role in this peculiar form of entertainment. Most adults who followed pro wrestling back in the territory days understood that they weren't watching a legitimate sport, and most kids who followed it had a better experience because they bought into the illusion that it was real. There's value in keeping up these appearances. If Chelsea Green wants to do a shoot interview or be featured on 'Unreal,' she can go ahead and do that. But she is taking something away from the experience of a lot of fans when she goes on social media under the same name she uses when she's on the show and makes posts like this. She's doing her job poorly and she's too dense to realize it.
Anonymous No.19084945 [Report] >>19085977
>>19081314 (OP)
Kayfabe is more alive than ever, you're just being worked in new and exciting ways and don't realise.
Anonymous No.19085106 [Report] >>19085361 >>19087198
>>19084655
You saw a Twitter screenshot and chose to look at it, it's not "burying your head in the sand" to not look at completely banal bullshit you don't like. It's like being some newsletter subscriber in the 90s crying about wrestlers gossiping to Meltzer because they're "exposing the business."
Anonymous No.19085361 [Report] >>19086620
>>19085106
>It's not "burying your head in the sand" to not look at completely banal bullshit you don't like.

It is burying your head in the sand to personally ignore a general tendency that is playing out in public. If you can't understand this point, then okay my fellow /pw/ anon.

The business is changing for the worse. Chelsea Green's tweet is one mild symptom of the malignant disease that is gonna put it under -- and my death metaphor here is in reference to the "mainstream" cultural status that Vince managed to elevate the industry into. A personal choice to refrain from looking at tweets like this on twitter or on /pw/ isn't going to have any affect on the decline of the industry from mainstream status. In her own small way, Green is helping diminish the general fan experience of the WWE in a way that will lead many to lose all interest in pro wrestling down the line.
Anonymous No.19085977 [Report]
>>19084945
Okay Hunter. Thanks.
Anonymous No.19086277 [Report]
>>19081314 (OP)
It's a good thing. Kayfabe is the #1 thing that keeps normies from accepting wrestling. "You know it's fake, right" That's the refrain you hear from every normie who doesn't even understand what wrestling is. Their impression is that they're trying to trick you into thinking it's real, and wrestling is for kids and retarded people. They don't realize it's a form of fictional storytelling, and that's what people like about it.
Anonymous No.19086620 [Report] >>19087156 >>19088158
>>19085361
>The business is changing for the worse
that happened over 30yrs ago. when there became only one entry way for faces/heels to go to the ring old school pro-wrestling died. the prevalence of cameras and social media and women in wrestling today make kayfabe impossible
Anonymous No.19087156 [Report] >>19087319
>>19086620
It was an inevitability
Anonymous No.19087198 [Report]
>>19085106
>JUST DONT VIEW ANY WEBSITE JUST IN CASE THERE IS SOMEONE BREAKING KAYABE BRO!!!!!!!!
or these faggots could make personal accounts like every other actor
Anonymous No.19087319 [Report]
>>19087156
but the women are the worst though. they constantly post pics of face/heels together smiling and hanging out
Anonymous No.19088158 [Report] >>19091793
>>19086620
>That happened over 30yrs ago

I know where you're coming from, and there is a case to be made there but I disagree. Social conditions certainly changed in a way that made the traditional practices of maintaining kayfabe impossible, but Vince saw to it that the wrestling business adapted to these changes and this led to greatest height of wrestling's popularity.

This can be a difficult subject to discuss given the nature of the topic. The term "kayfabe" began as a nonsensical code word invented by carnies to signal to their performers that fans/marks were around and so everyone needed to stay in character for the sake of the illusion. I understand that the days of separate locker rooms for heels and faces are long gone, and yet I can cite more examples than 4chan's character limit will allow of performers openly refusing to preserve some semblance of kayfabe before being surprised to find that fans have lost interest and aren't watching. Dirt sheets, shoot interviews, and shows like 'Unreal' are forms of entertainment that take interested fans "behind the curtain," and the relevance of each relies upon the health of the industry that plays out on the other side of that curtain. Performers ought not get too careless and go overboard in speaking about what they do as though it were make-believe. The millions of fans who willfully suspend their disbelief as they watch the shows shouldn't have performers like Chelsea Green talking down to them for doing just that.
Anonymous No.19088184 [Report]
>>19084412
bro i know Many 80 IQ people that finished college lmao
Anonymous No.19088188 [Report] >>19088689 >>19089165
>>19081342
You have to be literally retarded to believe in the Undertaker.
Anonymous No.19088206 [Report]
>>19081314 (OP)
>my guy
Only the corniest white people say that shit
Anonymous No.19088227 [Report] >>19090071 >>19091109
>>19081314 (OP)
As long as they don't break the fourth wall on the actual show it's fine with me.
Anonymous No.19088689 [Report]
>>19088188
It’s not about believing it or not. It’s about the workers respecting the tradition.
Anonymous No.19088814 [Report] >>19089029
Dom "king of kayfabe" mysterio is the only one who's protecting kayfabe
Maybe Asuka too
Anonymous No.19089029 [Report]
>>19088814
Asuka gets it. She puts in a lot of effort on her YouTube page.
Anonymous No.19089165 [Report]
>>19088188
undertaker was one of the most autistically dedicated kayfabe protectors of all time
I could easily see him freaking out if you broke it as a lesser talent
Anonymous No.19089185 [Report]
>>19081314 (OP)
Ironically the land of Japan where you all scream SMARK keeps it going, the West and specifically WWE are where everyone is doing shoot interviews every other week. Triple H is awful for it too.
Anonymous No.19089260 [Report] >>19089550
PROTECT
THE
FUCKING
BUSINESS
Anonymous No.19089550 [Report]
>>19089260
Why? Its over
Anonymous No.19089691 [Report] >>19089773
>>19081314 (OP)
Anonymous No.19089773 [Report] >>19089795
>>19089691
Why did you post this
Anonymous No.19089795 [Report] >>19089853
>>19089773
Look at the quoted tweet Jaxton is shilling is twitter again.
Anonymous No.19089853 [Report] >>19089876
>>19089795
Or maybe, get this. No one is shilling a random retard on twitter and we’re just talking about the subject in the Op.
Anonymous No.19089876 [Report] >>19089915
>>19089853
Anonymous No.19089915 [Report] >>19089925 >>19089943
>>19089876
>thread about kayfabe
>everything going fine, no drama or schizos
>guy comes comes in talking about twitter and posting pics like anyone cares even knows what he’s talking about
People like you make this board worse. I hope you understand that everything would he better if you weren’t around.
Anonymous No.19089925 [Report]
>>19089915
Sorry
Anonymous No.19089943 [Report] >>19089993
>>19089915
Sorry I thought you were Jaxton ill delete the post and stop.
Anonymous No.19089993 [Report] >>19090008
>>19089943
No one knows or gives a fuck about whoever it is you are talking about. Please go away.
Anonymous No.19090008 [Report]
>>19089993
k
Anonymous No.19090071 [Report]
>>19088227
They kinda do when they talk about unreal on raw and smackdown.
Anonymous No.19090521 [Report]
>>19081314 (OP)
Whatever Chelsea says is right
Anonymous No.19091106 [Report]
>>19084613
>implying there are any attempts to keep kayfabe alive even on the weekly shows

I hope you're getting a BJ from Steph for defending this shit. It's embarrassing.
Anonymous No.19091109 [Report] >>19091121
>>19088227
They do. Do you even pay attention?
Anonymous No.19091121 [Report] >>19091475 >>19091650
>>19091109
I'm aware they do and I wish they wouldn't. But I'm not bothered about what wrestlers say on twitter. I don't give a shit if actors want to talk about their characters on twitter, as long as they don't do in the movie. Same with wrestling, just let me watch it and believe it's real for the duration of the show at least.
Anonymous No.19091475 [Report]
>>19091121
That would be fair, but they don’t even do that lol
Anonymous No.19091496 [Report] >>19091614
>>19081314 (OP)
>mfw walter white isn't real it's just a comedic actor who turned serious?
>skyler never actually fucked ted, she's an actress on a TV show and never even gave him a bj, let alone fucked him
Was the kid even shoot retarded or were they lying about that too?
Anonymous No.19091614 [Report]
>>19091496
kek
Anonymous No.19091650 [Report]
>>19091121
>don't give a shit if actors want to talk about their characters on twitter
i agree with you. but out of curiosity, if there were social media accounts for the characters in a show and they mostly posted in character as part of the performance would it bother if you those accounts broke character? say they posted about how amazing it was working with an actor who played a guest spot in an episode?
Anonymous No.19091703 [Report]
It's one of the reasons year after year wrestling gets more and more niche, the marks are in the ring brother.
Anonymous No.19091793 [Report] >>19092060
>>19088158
>I understand that the days of separate locker rooms for heels and faces are long gone
this is one of the dumbest things though. its something that seems insignificant, but it sticks out like a sore thumb. ive watched wrestling with people/non fans when i was young and thats the first thing they notice and comment on. the authenticity is so obviously fake you cant defend it
Anonymous No.19092060 [Report] >>19092137
>>19091793
Well even back when Vince was doing his thing, was it really all buyable, or are we just too young to remember
Anonymous No.19092097 [Report] >>19092198
>>19081314 (OP)
this is why I don't follow wrestler's social media accounts. I like the characters and watching them fight, seeing their lives outside of the ring ruins it
Anonymous No.19092137 [Report]
>>19092060
nta but during vinces cartoon era you only really believed in the top guys (bret, austin, shawn) or the guys who fully committed to the gimmick like taker or goldust. you had to suspend disbelief a lot for the latter group, but you could still do it. either way there was an element of kayfabe even at the most ridiculous
Anonymous No.19092198 [Report]
>>19092097
Thats probably a great idea. Wrestlers integrate social media a lot these days, its even brought up on the show though.