This is a really interesting form of gender equality I must say.

>>81467054 (OP)
The captain probably also believed that women should be housewives and not vote. The point of classic chivalry is that women are weaker beings to be protected like children.

Lies. The standing orders were women and children into the boats, but this was interpreted differently on different sides of the ship which were overseen by different officers. On one side of the ship the order was seen as women and children first and men were let in if no more women or children were around. On the other side of the ship it was interpreted as women and children only and it was here that men were prohibited from entering boats at all. Though some men, mostly crewmen from the ship were in every boat to man the oars.

>>81467266
>The captain probably also believed that women should be housewives and not vote. The point of classic chivalry is that women are weaker beings to be protected like children.
My problem is that many feminists want to retain this aspect of traditionalism while also enjoying all the freedoms of the modern world.

>>81467293
>Though some men, mostly crewmen from the ship were in every boat to man the oars.
I heard that some chads were invited on to the boats to serve as rowers

>>81467054 (OP)
Thats how biology works. 1 man can fertilize hundreds of women. But women can only have 1 baby per year. So men are less important for survival of a people than women are.

>>81467266
Nah, it's basic survival of the species. You want the women to survive to maximize survival. All animals know it

>>81467317
>So men are less important for survival of a people than women are.
A young man has more survival value than an old/post-menopausal woman. Also, you need men to like work and stuff.

>>81467311
Well yes, they needed rowers for the boats since you couldn't expect a woman to do that work.

>>81467319

>>81467317
There's only so much of biological fatalist dogma you can adhere to before you ultimately realize it's all void, and things are eventually meant to be subverted by pure will. Nothing is actually sacred nor should be sacred until the right time comes, where man is the main benefactor

>>81467365
>There's only so much of biological fatalist dogma you can adhere to before you ultimately realize it's all void, and things are eventually meant to be subverted by pure will. Nothing is actually sacred nor should be sacred until the right time comes, where man is the main benefactor
And also post-menopausal women are less reproductively valuable than most men but the simps never mention that in their biological reductionist arguments.

>>81467365
there are plenty of smart and introspective women in the world, men simply ignore them and chase after bpd bimbos instead, then complain about how stupid all women are

Don't forget the men that did survive were seen as cowards and socially shamed for the rest of their life.

Seems rather arbitrary. Just like gynocentrism as a whole and its "inherent value" mythos. I hope you're ready to see the "divine feminine" reduced into the void.

It's a (dying) gynocentric value system. Filled to the brim with double standards and infantile female parasite.

All of the gender disputes of the modern internet is simply the harbinger of an awakening. To realize there is no such thing as "inherent value" and that the whole half of humanity is weirdly underdeveloped in the evolution department.

>>81467365
You won't get it because your life is dull and coddled. It's when you face the end when those instincts that have been with us for millions of years kick in

>>81467054 (OP)
>another ick for women
>trying to not die

>>81467317
So true! Good thing we got the women off the Titanic first, otherwise humanity would have gone extinct!

>>81467054 (OP)
lmao I don't give a fuck, I would walk a mile babies while wearing spiked boots if it meant I wouldn't fucking drown to death. Survival insticts nigga.

>>81467054 (OP)
lmao I don't give a fuck, I would walk a mile over babies while wearing spiked boots if it meant I wouldn't fucking drown to death. survival instincts nigga.

>>81467433
careful with that edge there, as a middle schooler you would have survived anyway.

>>81467386
>there are plenty of smart and introspective women in the world
Oh yea, all 12 of them.

>>81467400
I speak from experience and living in shitty areas and seeing constant conflict.

I do not "go on alert mode" when I hear a random woman cry. That is just a romanticized notion of pseudo-biological fatalist mythology. Nothing happens. I feel nothing.

Women do not "go first". That is an illusion.

So is every spook """virtue"" pertaining to the evolutionary "need" to "protect" women.

>>81467054 (OP)
All this biological imperative crap in these comments, people scarcely realize that gallantry and chivalry are both how men flex on women and how high class men flex on the poor. Sure, in this instance it may have had disastrous consequences but so what? To survive only because you're perceived as so weak, helpless, and pathetic is hardly the flex people think it is. And people think this is about "having babies" or "one men impregnating 100 women" lmao get a fucking grip.

>>81467054 (OP)
>>81467295
@Slatzism is Anna Slatz, an L. Ron Hubbard cultist who recently rebranded into a "radical feminist" account. Has anyone asked her if she still thinks Scientology is cool?

>twitter screenshot
Go back there and stay for good, faggot.

You are not obligated to provide, care or protect women. You are not obligated to put in more effort than a woman. You are not obligated to fulfill an archetype and or gender role. You are not obligated to follow your """instincts""" when you hear a woman in distress.

They LITERALLY live in 'word reality' and that's the only sign you need to realize their nothingness. To rebuke their illusory 'feelings'.

>>81467400
>when those instincts that have been with us for millions of years kick in

You mean the same le instincts that prevent racemixxing, right? Right? Lmao?

>>81467507
back then though since you could get a virgin bride the social contract was in force. In exchange for this you had to die either in natural disaster or in war.

Now though? It's gone and broken. No virgin bride? Nope not dying for some chad's cum dump.

>>81467483
Based. Also in many countries such as China, you run a woman over with a car and you don't see people rushing to help. Their culture dictates that you're responsible for their future when you help so many refuse to do so. There we go, a cultural instinct that just beat millions of years of supposed "evolution". In reality if culture can be the determining factor in helping women (or really anybody) then it's not an instinct. Evo-psych tards really need to step back and think for themselves instead of listening to another grifter with an internet degree from Hustler's university.

>>81467493
>@Slatzism is Anna Slatz, an L. Ron Hubbard cultist who recently rebranded into a "radical feminist" account. Has anyone asked her if she still thinks Scientology is cool?
I used to know Anna, the cult she was into when I was talking to her was "manifestation." She talked about how she brainwashed herself and how if you're not brainwashed you're NGMI. Shit I wish I'd kept the DM screenshots they were pretty funny.

>>81467507
If women are allowed to have a separation from their traditional role, then men should be allowed to as well, we do not have to be soldiers for their wars or the guards at their door

>>81467054 (OP)
I like how she literally just invented that story in her head to justify this fact and then posted it as if its researched fact. I fucking hate women and leftists.

>>81467483
Nah, its real you're just numb to it. Its the same reason you likely don't care about gunshots whereas i a white person from a good neighborhood get panicked when I hear a firework being set off near my house

>>81467615
You're not white and the suburbs aren't a neighborhood, they're prefab economic housing units. Nice bait 2/10 made me reply.

>>81468342
I'm white and its a neighborhood. Seeth more for literally no reason.

There will come a time, not too far away, when we realize the majority of women are about as sentient and 'valuable' as an AI chatbot. No inner life, no individuality, no introspection. an amalgamation of unconscious habits that has to be fed like an infant and people have to pretend they're not inherently parasitic. And yes, no inherent value because that's a made up construction.

The more you latch on to arbitrary made up values like "womanhood" the more you will suffer and it will be your fault for not letting go. This advice applies to both men and the organisms we call 'women'.

you could say that porn was a divine ordained necessary evil so that it would memetically raise men's standards. But it is still not high enough. It won't be high enough until virtual companions make every "real woman" like garbage in the eyes of man.

It's so funny how much garbage we've entertained up until now. Like for a minute we had to pretend a media was bad because it gave women "body image issues" as if it's not their own damn fault. People unironically ate this shit up without considering the free will or lack thereof, of women. Society has a responsibility to move the fuck on, accelerate AI and let coddled girls adapt or get left behind.

>>81468583
>oh nyooooo my girlie is starving herself because anime women aren't above 20 bmi

lmfao these petty cunts will get atomised by AI acceleration and we can finally fucking evolve

>>81467317
And if there is only one man who will provide food? who will protect from outside threats? who will do the strength intensive labour? Men are needed for the purpose of production and survival, their demanded payment is a good chance at having a partner.

>>81468556
While in general I believe that men tend to be more "sentient" than women, I don't believe it is exclusively a women phenomena nor do I believe that women cannot achieve sentience.
Most people are NPCs with no inner life - women just have a slightly higher percentage of NPCs than men, and I would argue a decent chunk of that is due to them being coddled as children. You ever met an immigrant woman who STRUGGLED in her home country? They're there, mentally. They still suffer from woman-isms (emotional disregulation, hysteria, etc.), but they do have an inner life, I can tell you that.

>>81467493
I find it incredibly ironic how this bitch mocks some random Thai woman for mistaking a picture of fucking L Ron Hubbard as her grandfather, when she doesnt have the awareness to see how insane it is carry a picture frame of a fucking cult leader around with her on vacation.

>>81467319
Feamles are pussified traitors and will abandon their kin to save their own asses though, while as males will fight to the death to preserve theirs.

>>81467054 (OP)
That stupid cunt doesn't know what she is talking about.
Women and children were high priority for the lifeboats. Obviously.
On one side, women and children were loaded into the boats; while men were only allowed on if there was enough space.
On the other side, the idiot ONLY allowed women and children on the boats. As a result, half the boats were under capacity.
Though the ship did not have enough lifeboats, many more could still have been saved with the boats they had.
Of course, even though Ismay got on one of the last boats and no-one else was around, he was basically demonised for saving his own life.
I mean how dare someone save their own life when there's an opportunity there to do so and there was no 'competition' for it.