i rlly wish i had a more feminine body and fem appearance too. growing up fat really fucked me up, even after a 100 lb weight loss i dont feel satisfied with my body.

i cant tell if my body dysmorphia comes from porn addiction, or if its something truly genuine. ive been wishing to have a feminine body as young as 12 yrs old, and succesfully lost all that weight at 17 but my torso still looks bulky. the only thing i got from the weight loss was the waist. but besides that, nothing.

i feel like a blob of loose skin while i see other twitter boys, trans fems pre-estrogen, even fucking neets with perfect bodies. i look at my body and feel disgust and a deep depression and i can only drown it with nic, weed and alcohol while crying to fucking yung lean.

i wish i didnt grow up fat. if i had to take drugs to look what i want to look i'd do it without even thinking twice.

god i fucking hate myself.

>>81477463 (OP)
Idk just be like me, I stopped caring about what anyone else thought and also stop being attracted to people that ere into people that looked nothing like me. I actively can't be into someone who doesnt think my broad shoulders, pale skin and chubby cheeks are attractive lol, I never even look at a man that prefers anything but me so it works out pretty well

>>81477516
its not really about what others think about me. i just really wish i had a feminine body. if it means that i have to take estro to get a more feminine appearance then i might do it. even if it means that i might have to identify as a girl

>>81477463 (OP)
man i'm sorry. you are probably fucked. unfortunately you (probably) ruined your brain with pornography. I'll bet it's not impossible to get it back, though. Just don't be one of those retards who have broad shoulders and tries putting on a skirt or something, dude it'll never look good. Here's what I think you ought to do:
find an appreciation for masculinity, and then become more masculine. If you can't do this you're genuinely going to be permanently upset for life, because you'll NEVER look anything like a woman, or feminine, ESPECIALLY as you age. If you don't believe me, get a tape measure (preferably immediately) and compare the size of your ribcage, waist, and hips to the sizes of the average woman. Make sure you measure properly. Don't bother trying to change reality, you can't, but maybe you can change your mindset, and maybe you can change your taste. There's nothing wrong with looking masculine, men look great, too. Choose masculinity, choose strength. Your only other alternative is hideous, weak masculinity, because you will never achieve femininity.
Find a style of clothes that you think looks good, same with hair, and get more muscular.

>>81477463 (OP)
you must be young, so I'll give you a bit of a heads up. This won't last forever but the lingering self hatred will. Part of it is porn addiction, submissive dependent personality, and a genuine appreciation of the physical mobility being feminine would give you. But if it isn't porn, the idea of being feminine for someone will throw you off. Watching something closely resembling your ideal self will make you so utterly disgusted to the point you question your antics. That's where I discovered I genuinely wanted the beauty of being feminine, the lively youthfulness that brought in people through charm, looks, and wit. And overall freedom. I didn't want to be the bimbo femboy types either. Similar to a napoleon strategist or unhinged type. You will eventually get over yourself, still would feel bitter looking in the mirror. But as long as you aren't overly ogreish ugly with heavy masculine facial expression in your eyes you should do a bit better than how I handled it.

>>81477976
im 18 going 19 now on august. desu, i don't think i really consider myself ugly. i look boyish, have mid-long curly hair, i sound "twink-ish" and can pull off a feminine look but it's just my body that really sets me off. i just wish i had a more feminine physical appearance, and to kind of cope with it i got a waist trainer that (i think) seems to be working, unless if its placebo. i'm a waiter so i run around a lot, i do planks and rlly have been watching what i eat (or just starve for hours).

i wish i had a more feminine appearance bc my personality's nature is feminine. i act feminine and always have been for years. my body in a realistic point of view is bulky but i got a decent waist and got curves to it too.

i just. really wish i was as slim like the others. hence why growing up fat really fucked me up.

>>81478204
don't push yourself too hard man, as long as you got the basic genes. Try not to go full girly mode though that shit will fuck you over psychologically. It's better than looking like the mug root beer mascot lol. Don't starve yourself if you do have a period where you over eat all that fat will be gained back quickly. Don't go full on troon mode it will look strange. Don't over compensate for femininity either that's where the dysphoria will really hit hard. Most importantly you don't resent your personality and entire sense of self.

>>81477813
fuck off please

>>81477463 (OP)
are you a Osaka tranny

>>81477463 (OP)
This why I fucking hate liking trannies
I have a thing for woman who dread their own bodies I literally have a thing for mentally ill women

>>81477463 (OP)
the problem with you is that you are a transvestite, that is, a sexual degenerate who's unchecked.

you aren't trans you are just a faggot who took being gay too far. imagine a scat fetishist complaining about his poop or something. that's you.

>>81477463 (OP)
pardon me. i couldn't help but overhear your plight.

My name is Dr. Bimbostein. And i can make any women into a sexy bimbo. I've been experimenting with men due to the market damand and i think i can make you 99.8% female. That would mean it wouldn't be gay to fuck you so long as you said no homo before it. I can alter your body with my experiments. So long as you waive your human rights to me.

>>81478720
i'm right. you're setting this guy up for failure. for a man to look like a woman is a monumental task. it's more realistic of an ask to develop a taste for looking masculine instead.

>>81478791
no, he WILL become my bimbo and i WILL pimp him out to clients while advancing bimbology

>>81477463 (OP)
My dear AGP guy , don't destroy your own self with that kind of behavior.
If you want to , there may be a way to fulfill that in the bedroom , but be careful, you must become a father and not a mother so protect this.

>>81478808
sigh... i'd like you character more if it was obsessed with something funny, like dissecting op, instead of your not-at-all-concealed-fetish.

>>81478810
found a pic of you anonnyny

>>81478822
who said there wouldn't be any dissecting? OPEN UP, OP

>>81478856
it appears i made him overdose on estrogen hypno pills.

>>81478855
We are attracted to the other , not to yourself, this causes many problem if someone does that.

>>81478879
no it doesnt u made it up

>>81478856
did you fcking draw all of those??? why do you ahve so many?

>>81477463 (OP)
I feel the same way
fat as shit growing up and im down like 120lbs but my frame is so bulky and i have a lot of loose skin ill never get anywhere close to what kinda of body I want. I wish there was something I could do.

>>81479110
i'm sorry you won't look how you want. i mean, you could get surgery. but if you can't, i know personally i'd rather have loose skin than be a fat fuck who dies at 50

>>81478756
im a whole dude its over

>>81478786
sounds promising dr. bimbostein!! i am sure i can trust you ! ^w^

>>81478786
How many Shekels does the surgery cost Doctor Bimbostein?

Sometimes I wonder if trooning out would make me want to kms a bit less. Seems like a crazy thought, I don't know.