In the 50s, they did IQ tests on black Americans and found that half of them were medically retarded. Libtards had to go back and cook up some new science to lower the threshold for what is considered retarded in order to appease the black community and get black children into normal white schools. I wonder how many white retards this fucked over? Can an 82 IQ white retard receive government benefits or is he just fucked?

>>81480732 (OP)
It sure did fuck over all the white kids that are forced to go to school with retards. I mean think about how much the curriculum has to be dumbed down. We wonder why China is eating our ass.

>they did IQ tests on black Americans and found that half of them were medically retarded
This made me laugh out loud.

>>81480732 (OP)
This is more recent so it matters more. OP is retarded

>>81481665
2 whole points? this is what makes blacks inferior to you racists? Sounds like culture or just sample size errors to me.

>>81481665
The left is just making shit up now. Like holy shit.

>>81481686
Stop replying to yourself, you loser lefty lmao

>>81481696
Black middle class IQ should be higher. Lots of whites are middle class because their ancestors were but money begets money and they likely maintained their class position. Black people of the middle class are likely first or second generation in the class and most likely entered on merit rather than nepotism or family connections.

>>81481713
You are a fuckking loser that makes fake studies. You people are a joke.

>>81481690
>>81481690
>My shitty AI that thinks for me says your study doesn't exist! My shitty paragraph? It's totally real! Oy vey don't question the race science black GOY!
Ok anon

>>81481713
This

>>81480732 (OP)
This is for American blacks, who's IQ can be calculated as 80 + (80 is the average genetic African IQ, but since they experience a poor environment their IQ is reduced by 10 points (SD = 15) 1/5 European ancestry; Mental retardation requires more than low IQ (you have to have specific deficits/disorders).

>>81481871
Blacks in America average 85, while in Africa they average 70 (due to environmental decrements).

Who gives a shit, seriously

>>81481713
This is untrue see: picrel

So calling black people retarded is fucked up because a coin flip toss says you may be right. Think of all the retards you've bullied, anons.

the fact that you don't understand the concept of intelligence and how that might relate to iq testing tells me you might be even less capable.

Amazing, they had the breakfast question 70 years ago.

>>81482027
>You don't understand intelligence
HOW? Actually explain how (you can't).

>>81481665
This includes hispanic whites.

>>81481665
No, the European, American and Afrikaners white mean is 100; the white-black IQ gap has been present for over 100 years.

>>81481713
The black middle class is largely an invention of the government and makework jobs. Faggots like you were howling a few months ago when Elon Musk's DOGE was eliminating a lot of these fake jobs. If blacks were smarter than whites like you claim, then Africa would be a nice place to live. It's not. Your cope about muh colonialism won't work either, people like Koreans went from being positively medieval to where they are now in less than 100 years.

>>81480732 (OP)
does sucking your own dick ever get boring? maybe you can find love in teaching others how to suck their own dick

>>81482737
i didn't know it actually gets boring

>>81481665
>average middle-class black person IQ is higher than average middle-class white person IQ
Based. Let's see what excuses white retards have to explain why this isn't true.

im a black phd student in statistics. my stupidest colleagues are easily the white guys. they're all so self-absorbed and vain. nothing i havent dealt with before, but i would've expected the "master race" to have grown out of this childish behavior by now. all they're good for is making myself look better in comparison and the professors end up liking me much more. got some good networking opportunities through them.
>>81481713
exactly, and this is true, much like how when you compare a middle-class white family with an identical (similar tax bracket, environment, economical situation) middle-class black family, the black family outperforms them in nearly every aspect, particularly education and voting outcomes. would it be the other way around, white people-as we see in this thread-would say it's genetic issue.

>>81483064
is picrel from a tv show?
Don't bother arguing with these robot poltards, i've heard their voices some of them are genuinely low t gay boys i would have bullied in highschool if i wasn't raised by God-fearing parents.

>>81483085
Nah, it's Fusako Shigenobu from the Japanese Red Army.
I just like to pop into 4chan now and then to see how obsessed over black people these anons still are.

>>81482950
It isn't; --> >>935722231

>>81482950
>>81483321
>>>/b/935722231

>>81483267
Nah this shit is what they bleed, they can't help themselves they need their inferiority complex egos stroked in an echo chamber

>>81483064
If you're not LARPing, why do you think anecdotes matter?

>>81480732 (OP)
There should be separate schools for poorer children

>>81483460
Why, shouldn't it be IQ based?

>>81481690
May be dubious but your ai is a retard.

always amazed how much weight people still put on a concept as narrow and poorly measured as IQ when success and happiness is determined by so many more important factors.

>>81481665
> a new study supersedes old studies
That is not how science works. You look at all the studies and weigh the strengths and weaknesses of each, then make a judgment on which study is them most likely to be closest to reality. Most people don't have the education to do this so retards online citing studies is peak dummy behavior.

>>81482950
These studies and many others include Hispanic/Latino into White samples, because hispanic (we include latino here) is regarded as an optional category. In US crime statistics, most hispanics are tracked as white, which the ACLU discusses here: https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/war-marijuana-has-latino-data-problem?redirect=blog%2Fcriminal-law-reform-racial-justice%2Fwar-marijuana-has-latino-data-problem
>Race and ethnicity: The UCR tracks crime for the racial category of "White" to include both Hispanic and non-Hispanic ethnicities. According to the ACLU, with over 50 million Latinos residing in the United States, this hides the incarceration rates for Latinos vis-a-vis marijuana-related offenses, as they are considered "White" with respect to the UCR
Here is the definition of hispanic according to bjs.gov, which is self reported:
>A person who describes himself or herself as Mexican etc., [cut]
and non:
>Persons who report their culture or origin as something other than "Hispanic" as defined above. This distinction is made regardless of race.
Source: [1]
Not to mention that the US legal definition of White in most areas including the Census until 2024 was Euro, Middle Eastern, and North African.
Source: https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2024/04/updates-race-ethnicity-standards.html

And if you want evidence of what the ACLU is saying, look at my attached screenshot or go to quite literally any jail/arrest record website and look at the race/ethnicity of hispanic arrestees. The majority of cases are listed as White. This problem is ubiquitous in criminology, science, sociology, etc. In science, the greatest problem is that verifying the ethnicity without a simple self identification is not possible without genetic testing, which for many teams is not feasible without access to a lot of funding.

I can give you more sources besides just the ACLU and wikipedia, but I wanted to give you the easiest access without big reads.

>>81485429
>>81481665
>[1] https://bjs.ojp.gov/topics/race-ethnicity
Cut it out because of a lack of character space. Regardless, the interpretation of the text as whites (including hispanic whites) having a lower IQ is wrong either way, even if we say that these Middle Easterners, North Africans, and Hispanics aren't driving IQ down. The study itself doesn't even imply it; It just means more whites with lower IQ get into middle class jobs, and that typically only higher IQ blacks do so. OP isn't even saying that all blacks have a lower IQ, but denying that blacks have a lower average IQ EVEN when whites are lumped in with non-white ethnicities is retarded, which you are.

>>81483064
It's largely because less intelligent people overinflate their own intelligence, such as yourself.

>>81481665
This study is almost certainly fake. Studies up to 2012 show that blacks have a lower IQ regardless of socioeconomic class, adoption status, education level, and more. I stole (pirated) this study
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886920301513
From 2020 which controls for socioeconomics, blacks still perform significantly worse. I wrote >>81485429 explaining several reasons it can be accounted for in good faith. Now please link your study so I can verify it.

>>81484723
>>81481665
The study is fake. No institution or team exists with the name REEE. Your image is the REE. There is no published study of this on IQ from the USDA REE.
According to all recent data, blacks score significantly lower than whites regardless of socioeconomic status. Anon was likely posting a screenshot from an AI and believed that what it said was factual, forgetting that AI frequently hallucinates. I cannot believe there were three replies in a row with just
>anon posts AI false information
>another anon debunks it with ai
>another anon posts something without the same acronym

Fucking grim. Retards like this "PhD" student with evidently lower than white average IQ just take it as fact. Grim, grim, grim.

>>81485429
>>81485477
>>81485830
This means that even with white iq dragged down by other ethnicities, they still outperform blacks regardless of socioeconomic score.

Have you ever met a trump supporter? They're always poor inbred white trash living paycheck to paycheck. I think it has to do with poor, now I don't hate minorities, I hate poor people, it just happens to be that minorities are usually poor, but trump supporters aren't just poor and dumb, they're fucking lazy too, so they're the worst.

>>81486004
Low class whites are still smarter than middle class blacks on average. This screenshot is from an actual research paper unlike the hoax one.

Here is another:
>https://openpsych.net/files/papers/Fuerst_2014a.pdf
>The relative importance of genetic and environmental sources of IQ differences in White populations is an extensively studied subject. The results conclusively show that genetic variation is the main cause of individual differences in IQ after early childhood. The family environment has been shown to be a relatively unimportant source of cognitive variation in Whites. Generally, in early childhood genetic effects explain less than 50 percent of IQ variance, and the effect of the shared environment is strong. As children age, genetic effects become more and more prominent and the shared environmental variance decreases. In adults, h2 is in the range of 60-80 percent, while c2 is small if not zero; e2, which includes measurement error, explains the rest (McGue, et al., 1993; Tucker-Drob, et al., 2013).
Study from 2023: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9706469/
>Contrary to our expectations, the incremental contribution of income was small even at working ages. This finding seems to counter earlier results by Zahodne et al. (2017), who reported that income was a notable contributor to racial disparities in cognition and that the indirect effect via income diminished with age.
And blacks controlled for in all areas, demographic, socioeconomica, health, psychosocials:
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2939725/

>>81480732 (OP)
black aren't significantly more stupid compared to white (average IQ is ~5 points lower in UK cohort at age 12) but they are significantly more likely to have cluster B personality disorders, which are largely genetic. As a result people tend to be wary of them. These IQ tests tend to be skewed since black people score abysmally low in the verbal IQ sections compared to the nonverbal and quantitative components. Culture-free IQ tests are more accurate but the only real one that exists is Ravens Progressive Matrices, which can easily be trained on.

>>81483064
At my former bong university we had what we call "access" students. Basically there were different standards set for international students vs. domestic students due to the vastly different quality of teaching, with the "access" students being domestic students in poverty or bad schools. Race wasn't really factored in like it was in the US. Generally there's a very small amount of access students (this number has been increasing, might be different now) but they either crash and burned or did really well in part due to unseen talent and in part due to the lack of entitlement and arrogance typically shown in the "gifted child" youth.

>>81486004
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4641149/
>By age 16, this discrepancy had multiplied: low SES boys scored on average 15 IQ points less than high SES boys, and in girls this difference amounted to approximately 17 IQ points.
In a study of all ethnicities, the difference between high SES and low SES can only account for a 16 point difference on average, so this would mean that high socioeconomic blacks perform as well as an average white, and the lowest of socioeconomic whites are as smart as the average black person. Uh oh. But it's worse, because black people see lower benefit from socioeconomics, the reality is worse.

Still waiting for Dr. Black Man >>81483064 who fell for a hoax.

>>81480732 (OP)
I wonder what theyll find in 100 years when they start doing race studies again. Im sure china doesnt give a fuck and does their own anyway right now

>>81486176
So it seems like whites are the ones being unfairly treated more than likely

>>81483064
GET THE BLACK NIGGER OFF THE THREAD!
NIGGER!

>>81486374
You are referring to the 2021 study: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Fuerst/publication/351935350_Recent_Studies_of_Ethnic_Differences_in_the_Cognitive_Ability_of_Adolescents_in_the_United_Kingdom/links/60b0b166a6fdcc647ee40feb/Recent-Studies-of-Ethnic-Differences-in-the-Cognitive-Ability-of-Adolescents-in-the-United-Kingdom.pdf?origin=publication_detail&_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uRG93bmxvYWQiLCJwcmV2aW91c1BhZ2UiOiJwdWJsaWNhdGlvbiJ9fQ
That's more than a 5 point difference, and these differences increase with age (plateauing between 14-16, bringing them closer to the heritable average, pic related).*
The study also includes this limitation:
>Limitations
>A limitation of this review is that all the data are for school students in maintained (i.e. state) schools and do not include the approximately 7 percent of students in private fee-paying schools. These are mainly Whites with affluent parents and have higher average educational attainment and IQs than those in maintained schools. The effect of this will be to reduce the scores of Whites.

*Black IQ in childhood has been roughly the same even since 1991 ( K R Vincent. J Clin Psychol. 1991 Mar.) in America regardless of socioeconomic status, but it tends to decline regardless of socioeconomics back to the expected average for a given socioeconomic class. This happens because childhood IQ is generally much closer and genetic differences take effect later in life:
>IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with the child's age and reaches a plateau at 1416[9] years old, continuing at that level well into adulthood.
I linked the wiki summary because the study is not easy, but it is free: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6551607/

I'm really sorry anon.

>>81486374
>>81486774
Last study I linked is not explicitly about IQ but examines it as it relates to age and psychosocial function. It reflects the tendency for children's intelligence to rapidly change (better or worse) more closely matching their genetic tendency (regardless of race) mostly between the ages of 14-16. That's why your study doesn't say much. Black child IQ has already been about what you stated.

IQ doesn't measure intelligence.

>>81486374
>>81486791
Besides all that, yes, blacks are significantly less intelligent on average in the UK even controlling for socioeconomic factors.
>>81486801
It measures intelligence in that it measures how good someone is at learning skills, understanding problems, abstract thinking, and more. If your definition of intelligence is... well, what? Then go ahead.

>>81486774
Crap, pic didn't upload. Here it is.

>>81486774
Pic didn't upload, here it is (also uploaded the wrong one and had to delete).

>>81481665
Link the
>>81481713
You're defending a hoax.
>>81481770
It literally was fake.
>>81482027
Let's hear it genius.
>>81483064
Let's see what Black Science Man thinks about the fact that he just regurgitated a fake study. I imagine you got in on affirmative action. So much for that high IQ.

Waiting for a refutation.

>>81480732 (OP)
>In the 50s, they did IQ tests on black Americans and found that half of them were medically retarded. Libtards had to go back and cook up some new science to lower the threshold for what is considered retarded
This seems legitimate to me? Half of black people are not actually retarded, that's a ridiculous conclusion, so if a test was giving you that answer the test was clearly flawed and defining retardation too broadly.
t. have interacted with both black people and retards

>>81487016
Your standard for "a retard" is an infirm, drooling imbecile. This is because you have based it on the adjusted standard. It used to just be a major dumbass, of which I am certain you have encountered many.

funny
where are all the leftists now that someone broke the science out

>>81480732 (OP)
Which is funny considering modern IQ tests have a specific scale for each population instead of universal measurements

>>81487120
wow you're so intelligent and scientific
said no one ever

>>81487733
Interesting refutation.

>>81480732 (OP)
Libfags just ruin the natural intrinsic value of basically anything they get their hands on, education is supposed to be exclusive (financially/intellectually). This is what made education a large part of success for the longest time, it also allows for the smart black (non-niggerlious) kids to actually differentiate themselves from the rest of the nigger community.

But no they want "mah equality" which involves abolishing the intrinsic value and ACTUAL funding (less people = less financial stress) for schools, so some niggers just can skip half the year.

I fucking hate libfags, let alone ameritards

>>81480732 (OP)
Not as dumb as a wheat picker

>>81487833
>they were picking wheat notoriously

>>81480732 (OP)
Most people don't interact with blacks irl I guess because yeah they are fucking retarded and it is obvious

>>81483363
seems like statistics isn't his strongest area after all