Why do we cut off girls' tits and call them boys nowadays instead of letting them grow out of their wanting to be male phase like how it worked 20 years ago?

That's normal for girls, lots of them wish they were boys in early puberty because that's a very awkward time for a girl with the hormones, breast growth, periods, dealing with boys on a romantic level, as well as being the targets of affection for those boys.

>>81481771
>a normal reply on /r9k/
wtf

>>81481771
Is the reverse true for boys?

>>81482032
No. You get treated like a subhuman sex object once you hit puberty and start growing feminine features. Obviously this takes a toll on young girls, so they just want to opt out of being the opposite sex entirely. What man wants to be a woman, genuinely? If not to fulfill a deranged sexual fetish (which is literally the only reason), Its usually because they unironically hate women. Men cannot be hated for being men, only for being horrible human beings. They are seen for their humanity and women are not. Shrimple as.

>>81482065
>women have humanity

>>81481752 (OP)
Not even as a joke I cant understand what the fuck is being wrote after the first boy what shitty handwriting lmao

>>81482065
When all of men are categorized as men who are criminal, thereby declaring that all men are terrible then that is how you get a whole generation of propaganda that implies maleness and masculinity is an inherently bad thing. It is a cop out to say "Not all men" because that statement almost glosses over the fact that there are men who kill, rape, and destroy but it is hard to tell when anyone can be a ticking time bomb. Men can be hated for being men, only when all of men are blamed for the few

>>81482083
Why are you using some pop star slop image as a gotcha? Is she a representative of all women? Thats like me showing you a picture of faggot harry styles and saying Heh. Men respectable? Nah.
Its obvious that person was doing it to try and be le artsy and prove a stupid point but you genuinely dont give a shit.

>>81482107
This same thing can be applied to women. What is your point? I can literally swap the genders around and itd be true.

>>81482065
Self-contradicting babble. Do men that want to become women do so "usually because they 'unironically' hate women" or is a 'deranged fetish' the only reason? You say a lot about men that signals that you hate them because of traits that you find inherent, or fixed in them. Would that not be hating them "for being men"?

Essentialist arguments make me think less of people. Not that you are a person -- you seem like an object.

>>81482152
This is why most women want to be men. Its because as soon as you get clocked as a woman, all respect for you is lost and your argument gets disregarded. It does not matter if it makes sense or is well thought out, someone like you will come along to cherry pick it and make me out to be the bad guy.
No, I dont hate all men. I dont even hate anyone. Its just blatantly obvious if you use your fucking eyes and look around, you can see that all trannies are trannies because of a sexual fetish. AGP is what its called. Usually it stems from hatred. What are you not understanding?

>>81482065
>projection
if I had a dollar for every stone butch man-hater I've encountered, I'd be on my yacht in the south of france instead of posting here.
All the troons I know worship women and seek (for better or for worse, usually the latter) to emulate them entirely, even at the expense of their own identities and interests. They view female friendships to be warmer and more fulfilling, they view a woman's experience as richer and healthier. And that's not even considering whatever psychosomatic shit dysphoria introduces.

>>81482219
Right, but you are confusing that for love and not hatred. They want to turn themselves into sex objects because thats all they see women as. That is Satan.
And, again, the same shit that you said can just be applied to women that want to be men. Trannyism will never work.

>>81482234
>They want to turn themselves into sex objects because thats all they see women as
I don't know how to convey this with more weight than "trust me bro" but know that there is a very significant portion of very sexless and wholesome trans women out there. You don't hear about them because these types don't do porn or post thirst traps or whatever, but they're around, functional, and surely don't see themselves or other women as sex objects lmao. They view their dysphoria as a medical condition, transitioning as the treatment, and their quiet, current lives as improved conditions.

>>81482255
Sorry, you cant psyop me into accepting satanic degeneracy. Try with someone else.

>>81482200
I made a distasteful joke, although not without purpose. I want to see how you react to understand your values. To be clear, I am sorry. I did not mean it. Based on your response I can tell you are serious and that your reasoning is based in disgust, so something good came of it.

To begin, I will preface this by saying that I am trans. Not off to a great start beating the "hating women" allegations, I know.
Speaking for myself, I don't see this. I hear this everywhere, that I have to be a fetishist, or hate women. I just don't see it. My reasons were deeply personal, not particularly sexual.
I don't think men and women are very dissimilar. I know I can't see things from an "outside" perspective, but I see the same traits reflected in the ways men and women speak about each other. It hurts to see this level of animosity. I have a very visceral reaction to divisiveness. I see gender essentialism as antithetical to equality. I have much to say on this topic.
Do you have any questions? I just want to reach an understanding.

>>81482470
>To begin, I will preface this by saying that I am trans.
So you are just sick in the head, got it. You really wasted all that time writing that shit.

>>81482283
>>81482632
Lmao look at this faggot larping as a woman.
Tits or GTFO tranny.

>>81482647
So you are samefagging now? I dont know whats more embarrassing. Why not call the actual tranny.. a tranny? Its crazy.

>>81481752 (OP)
What a fucking horrible handwriting!

>>81482661
Who's samefagging lmao
>Why not call the actual tranny.. a tranny?
Why say what's been said? Two things can be true. I'm just calling you out for your apparent AGP-induced humiliation fetish, troon.

>>81482632
I've been proven wrong -- you aren't serious. I know when to concede.

Well, I was serious about the "thinking less of people" part. Essentialism and tribalism comfort me. By that I mean the existence of essentialism and tribalism makes me devalue life. Life's existence is a blight on itself. Good night.

>>81482702
Honestly I dont blame you for thinking im a tranny. Most women dont really frequent 4chan and I am an exception. But I will keep saying that trannies are a sexual fetish forever.

>>81482742
I have every reason to believe that you are just rage baiting me. Imagine hating women this much that you go to these lengths? Its sad.

>>81482065
>Men cannot be hated for being men,

>>81482778
I admit I have given you a reason to believe that I would do that. Yet, I mean everything I've said (barring the insult). It may be impossible to continue this discussion. I am sorry for troubling you. I will take this conversation into consideration when I determine how to approach this topic in the future.

>>81482065
Men are quite literally hated for being men much more often than the reverse
Please shut the fuck up, you absolute retard.