which one is hotter

>>81486930 (OP)
as a woman I find men touching themselves to be hotter, but for men it's probably women

>>81486939
Yeah that's kinda how it works.
For me, it's cute and hot seeing a woman all hot and trying so hard to get herself off. Her pants, her moans, the noises her pussy makes.

>>81486939
women for me
t. male

>>81486930 (OP)
the idea of ugly people masturbating is so disgusting to me

>>81486930 (OP)
The male form is more aesthetic, so men getting off is inherently hotter

>>81486930 (OP)
Female masturbation is superior from a pleasure standpoint, but only because men are so nerfed. If the average man didn't have nerve endings in his dick chopped off at birth and he was also aware of how good prostate massages feel then male masturbation would be superior.

girl masturbation is just putting their hands inside a wet, smelly hole that looks ugly. i can't get over the lips, it's so gross.
t. male.

>>81486997
Tell me you're a European without telling me you're a European: The post.

This is a dumb thread because it obviously is just a matter of sexual orientation.
But, I'm male, and I sort of have a "female masturbation" fetish. It's my favorite kind of porn.
I don't like when there's men in porn, it makes me feel like a cuck.

>>81486930 (OP)
Clitorises have more nerve endings and have more capability to feel pleasure. And females can pleasure them without doing stupid penetration shit too

>>81486930 (OP)
I don't even know what a female orgasm looks like. They always look like they're faking it in porn.

>>81486981
then stop masturbating

Depends if the girl is unintentionally squirting, then it's hotter than a guy cumming.
But you have to also factor in how much the guy is cumming.
I'd say the hottest thing is when a guy ejaculates from anal play

Girls don't understand how to masturbate properly. That's why they need toys. One of my exes told me I touched her better than She touched herself.

>>81486930 (OP)
I'm a male and think male masturbation is hotter.
Probably because I actually associate with pleasure I can feel and relate to, as opposed to a woman on my screen

>>81486930 (OP)
Masturbation should be strictly anal to avoid having threads like this.

>>81486930 (OP)
f. I prefer watching men masturbate. It's rare that the male body is focused on in most porn since its produced by men who put all the focus on women. I'm not attractive like those women and I find a lot of them play up their moans and stuff in a way that feels performative and artificial to me, so it turns me off most of the time unless there's a particular angle or noises that are good. Watching men use fleshlights and stuff is particularly hot, though that niche is overrun with femboys which aren't really my thing, so finding good content is hit or miss.

we should find out by doing a co ed r9k discord jerk off

>>81487915
i have a stroker you can watch me use it

>>81486930 (OP)
As a straight guy it's been many years since I've watched a female masturbation video; I'm far more likely to watch a stiff cock getting stroked and cumming.

>>81486930 (OP)
Obviously, as a male I prefer watching women. For longest time I thought women don't like watching men masturbate because of unwanted dick pics, but when I posted webms showing some techniques on /soc/, I got bunch of compliments so I guess if it's a bit more tasteful than just fast jerking, they find it attractive.

>>81486939
>>81487915
I always wondered, do you like wtaching hotglue vids?
As for masturbation alone, do you prefer watching it done by hand or onaholes and other toys?

>>81486930 (OP)
Neither, only if it's the right shota doing it.

>>81488796
Personally I like to see guys use toys or onaholes, I found one recently where the guy uses one where the head comes out the other side and he uses both holes but shoots a healthy amount after only a few pumps after switching to (presumably) the ass and its been a recent favorite. I like when they have something substantial enough to thrust against that can produce a bit of sound, but also enjoy seeing as much of the action as possible so I tend to like when they use small dolls that bulge or anal parts of female toys out of personal preference.

>>81489930
I see. I also have torso-shaped onahole and turns out she's too shallow for me so I bulge out in the neck area. Nowdays I don't use it so often because it's hassle to clean afterwards and for my thickness she's pretty tight and I cum rather fast despite liking to edge. I'm waiting for one shop to replenish stock so I could buy full-sized torso with pair of nice titties and 2 holes. But with that big size I'll probably just use condom to spare myself cleaning process after every use.
Why anal though?

>>81489990
I guess its several things all wrapped in one but I just find it hot. There's something mildly degrading about it and although its not really taboo so much anymore, its pretty intimate and you kind of get the benefit of denial play without denial since there's still so much sensation that can happen in that area and while women don't technically have prostates I am personally convinced we must have some equivalent to one there based on personal exploration.

>>81490041
>since there's still so much sensation that can happen in that area and while women don't technically have prostates
I mean, it isn't that far away from vaginal canal and it's not like pleasure can come only from stimulation of sexual organ like clit. Scratching on body feels nice even though it's basically clawing into your skin. I guess pain under certain threshold can be pleasurable. And as you've said, degradation aspect and imagination with psychological stuff also play a role during sex. It's like me liking when girl comes, even though it doesn't make sense when her pussy will feel the same on my cock no matter whether she comes or not. It's psychological aspect that is responsible for it, and makes you feel competent and you're happy with making someone you like happy. Since women are more on the submissive side, I wouldn't be surprised if they liked a bit of pain and degradation.
Do you like to play with your butt or you just enjoy watching it with onaholes?

>>81486930 (OP)
I like both as a woman.

>>81486930 (OP)
It really depends. The men that aren't just soulless and horny are better than women obviously. Most men are like that though and just want sex.

>>81486930 (OP)
Male is just objectively better. The only downside is most are silent now because of hiding but proper moaning and whimpering is so much hotter than shitty women mastrubation. I've done what picrel is like before my god it is so good, theres no way women can be better.

>>81486930 (OP)
I like seeing dicks cum a lot. But if im looking at the entire body then id rather see a woman because seeing a guy's face doing anything sexual is gay.

>>81490088
I suppose there's also something validating about knowing the other person is attracted enough to you to be able to find pleasure while using an ostensibly embarassing and tertiary part of your body for pleasure over the place for which it was intended? Albeit in a weird roundabout way. I like both hence my mention of personal exploration previously.

>>81490246
Of course. Maybe I'll let you watch as I use my toys someday. But for now I'm off to pick up something I ordered and do some work in garden.