>woman says that she has no height standards or that her boyfriend is short
Mock her boyfriend as much as you can. Call her standards ridiculously low and if you can call her female terms like pickme. This will make her feel dumb for even bringing it up. It will also make her want to look for other options than her boyfriend.
>I actually don't care that much about looks
Ask her straight up if she likes ugly guys. She's gonna say no and probably understand herself how ridiculous she sounds


Whenever a woman comes up with something that goes against the blackpill don't argue with her. Instead shame her for her low standards. If she brings up examples to try and prove you wrong like her manlet boyfriend insult him and her low standards so the next time she's arguing with a blackpiller she will be too ashamed to even bring up her boyfriend.

And you should go do this because women don't care about studies or your experiences. All they care about is appearing virtuous.

>>81501956 (OP)
Based
origo

>>81501956 (OP)
shaming me for having low standards would only make me feel more unique and virtuous it wouldn't make me raise them

>>81501989
>shaming me for having low standards would only make me feel more unique and virtuous it wouldn't make me raise them
It's not always to make you raise them but to admit that it's bullshit. Of course it doesn't work on everyone but it beats bringing up studies that no one cares about. It's also pretty funny because if you insult a woman's hideos celebrity crush (that they in most cases lie about) they can't really defend the premise of them being attracted to him because they would subconsciously have to admit that they have low standards and are thus low value women.

>>81501956 (OP)
Why are you so adamant about making women "admit" that they only want Chads? Why can't you just accept that women just like men have different preferences. Its dehumanizing to think that all women are the same.

>>81501989
what are your standards? i dont want to judge, just curious

>>81502126
foids deserve dehumanization and suffering

>>81502153
I like men who are tall and thin :)

>>81502161
Have you ever thought that it's your personality and not your looks holding you back? Lmfao. Maybe start by stop calling women foids.

>>81502063
it's not bullshit, i am objectively a low value woman and i know and admit it
>>81502153
physically
>5'7 or more (my height)
>bmi under 50
>not balding, bald is fine but i hate how half a head of hair looks
>not rotting teeth
>no extreme cystic acne, would if he's getting it treated
non-physical
>likes me or would give me a chance
>genuinely kind
>patient
>smart or at least not an idiot
>nice interests
>not a neet or willing to stop being one
>little to no romantic or sexual experience
>dates to marry
>wants kids

yes these are very specific but i don't think they are that high

>>81502153
>>81502279
also >>81502221 isn't me

>>81502286
i know it wasnt you, the smiley gave it away. people are pretty bad at impersonating
>>81502279
>bmi under 50
wow, this one is like... barely a filter
the rest of your standards are low, as i seem to fit almost if not all of them, and i am nowhere near a catch... this gives me a little bit of hope. thank you :)

>>81502335
thanks, i honestly expected you to try to have some gotcha moment lol

glad i could give you some hope, don't give up, i'm sure you are great

>>81502279
>it's not bullshit, i am objectively a low value woman and i know and admit it
It's sad that you have convinced yourself that you are attracted to men who are basically hideous. Even as a low value woman you could find a decently attractive man. What's stopping you?

Now for the foid translator

>5'7 or more (my height)
Definitely more. Doesn't give us much to work with but if I had to guess, 6 foot is ideal for you.
>bmi under 50
Could mean basically anything. From muscular Chads to fat nerds. Impossible to interpret but if you had the choose between a fat man or a fit man I think we both know who you would pick.
>not rotting teeth
Just say good teeth. No need to sugarcoat it. It's a reasonable standard.

Non physical
>likes me or would give me a chance
This is literally what everyone wants. Why even state it?
>genuinely kind
Fair.
>patient
Fair

The rest of time are fair and not lies.

>>81502388
>glad i could give you some hope, don't give up, i'm sure you are great
This is why women lie about their standards btw. It's not so much that you are malicious. You just don't want to make people sad. Emotional intelligence etc. At least you made his day.

>>81502279
Know what's crazy? I don't meet any of these physical standards except a full head of hair and I catch plenty of wandering eyes.

>>81502404
>Even as a low value woman you could find a decently attractive man. What's stopping you?
i wouldn't really want to be with someone who is leagues above me
>Definitely more
i genuinely don't care beyond that, as long as he fits my other standards. never dated but my past crushes were all around my height
>if you had the choose between a fat man or a fit man I think we both know who you would pick.
if they were both the same in all other aspects, i would probably pick the fat man because i'm not fit either
>Just say good teeth
not rotting and not missing, i don't care if they're not straight

>>81502388
nah, no gotcha moment. i just wanted to know if i am as undesirable as life experiences, and my own thoughts, have showed me. i just calculated, a bmi of 50 would mean a 5'7 person is 145 kg, that's... a lot. do you happen to be into fat guys?

not giving up is hard when you all you feel is self hatred, but ill keep trying.

>>81502435
except i'm not lying

>>81502486
>do you happen to be into fat guys?
i like them sometimes, i don't have too much of a preference in that department

>>81502475
>i wouldn't really want to be with someone who is leagues above me
Is it because you aren't physically attracted to them? Weird.
>i genuinely don't care beyond that, as long as he fits my other standards
>as long
You have already created an excuse in your head as to why you won't date short men.
>never dated but my past crushes were all around my height
Is it because you have a preference for very short men? Most women prefer taller men. You are an outlier.
>if they were both the same in all other aspects, i would probably pick the fat man because i'm not fit either
Because you are very physically attracted to fat men?

Does this work if you're really short yourself it feels insincere or kind of gay

>>81502488
>except i'm not lying
We can call it sugarcoating.

>>81502511
>Is it because you aren't physically attracted to them?
i'm usually not, they have dislikable attitudes and i can't relate to them in any way
>you won't date short men.
expect i would? i wouldn't date a taller man if he didn't fit my other criteria either
>Is it because you have a preference for very short men?
no, i don't have one, i crushed on them for other reasons
>Because you are very physically attracted to fat men?
i already said why, and i have been attracted to fat men

>>81502542
you can believe whatever you want to

>>81502126
>Its dehumanizing to think that all women are the same.
Funny thing that communists say otherwise. All humans are the same . Unity, one race and such.
And girls love communism.

>>81502501
i see, that's cool. being too overweight is a big problem in the long run, heart attacks, struggling to do everyday things... even the joints damage
anyway, thank you for the talk. you seem nice, i hope you find your person! i suppose it won't be hard for you given your standards. i wish i could meet someone like you one day.

>>81502126
They literally are though. Same interests, same standards, same beliefs, same everything. When you've dealt with one hole, you know exactly how to deal with every single other one

>>81502558
>i'm usually not
What is it about attractive men that you aren't attracted to? If we are talking about the physical attributes here. Are you more attracted to shorter/uglier males?
>they have dislikable attitudes
Do all of them have dislikable attitudes?
>i wouldn't date a taller man if he didn't fit my other criteria either
Got it, but if you had to choose between a shorter man or a taller men which would you choose?
>no, i don't have one
And why is that? Is it far fetched to think that a woman could have a preference for specifically shorter men? Is it even a thing?
>i already said why
You said because you were fat yourself but I wondered if there were any physical aspects about fat men that you were attracted to but I take that as a no.
>and i have been attracted to fat men
To who in particular?
>>81502564
You are not making a good case for yourself.

>>81502611
>If we are talking about the physical attributes here
physical attributes don't matter to me beyond what i already said
>Do all of them have dislikable attitudes?
the vast majority of them do
>if you had to choose between a shorter man or a taller men which would you choose?
if they were the same in every other aspect, i wouldn't know
>And why is that?
probably my own looks and my life experiences
>Is it far fetched to think that a woman could have a preference for specifically shorter men? Is it even a thing?
it's definitely rare, but there is probably a couple
>any physical aspects about fat men that you were attracted to
it's more about relatability, but i also think they are cute
>To who in particular?
just this one guy, not a famous person or anything

>>81502759
>physical attributes don't matter to me beyond what i already said
Physical attributes matters to everyone though. Do you find men who are more attractive than yourself or in different league than yourself to be physically unattractive? Or are you attracted to them?
>the vast majority of them do
It just seems like a cop-out. Also seems like incel propaganda. Just because a man is attractive doesn't mean that he will have a dislikable attitude. That's cope And its not doing you any favours.
>if they were the same in every other aspect, i wouldn't know.
Chances are you'd pick the taller guy, since most women prefer men who are taller. A man who is taller is a much better dating prospect for women.
>it's definitely rare, but there is probably a couple
It's very rare.
>it's more about relatability, but i also think they are cute
Is it cute to have erectile dysfunction and not being able to walk in stairs without being out of breath? What's cute about them?
>just this one guy
Just one guy? If someone has a preference for something they can usually mention more than "one guy" having said quality that attracts them.

>>81502986
>Physical attributes matters to everyone though
they do matter, i already mentioned the stuff that matters to me
>Do you find men who are more attractive than yourself or in different league than yourself to be physically unattractive?
not physically unattractive, just unfamiliar(?). i don't really know how to describe it, but i am not comfortable around them
>It just seems like a cop-out. Also seems like incel propaganda. Just because a man is attractive doesn't mean that he will have a dislikable attitude.
it's just generally true, they get treated well regardless of how they treat others and have no reason to be nice if they're not getting anything from you
>Is it cute to have erectile dysfunction and not being able to walk in stairs without being out of breath? What's cute about them?
that's just not what i'm thinking of, i am talking physically
>Just one guy?
yes, i haven't crushed on that many people
>If someone has a preference for something they can usually mention more than "one guy" having said quality that attracts them.
i don't necessarily have a preference for them, i never said that. also being fat isn't that common in general within my age group where i live

>>81503155
why are you arguing with a person that doesnt want to listen and just wants to prove his narrative to be the right one

>>81503191
because i don't mind and i'm bored

>>81503155
>not physically unattractive, just unfamiliar(?). i don't really know how to describe it, but i am not comfortable around them
I understand. Is it past experiences?
>it's just generally true, they get treated well regardless of how they treat others and have no reason to be nice if they're not getting anything from you
It's probably true to some degree.
>i am talking physically
Be specific. What is it about fat guys that attract you?
>>81503191
>why are you arguing with a person that doesnt want to listen and just wants to prove his narrative to be the right one
And what is my narrative?

>>81503275
lets play something

>>81503328
>Is it past experiences?
more than anything, yes
>What is it about fat guys that attract you?
i just think they are adorable, also i like not feeling huge next to them
>>81503330
play what

>>81501956 (OP)
I don't lie about my standards, why would I? If she's lying about her standards she's not going to chose you anyways so what's the point of lying?

>>81503398
>more than anything, yes
Bad guys that you dated?
>i just think they are adorable, also i like not feeling huge next to them
Adorable in what way?

>>81503398
>play what
i actually dont know im sorry

>>81503423
>i don't lie about my standards, why would I?
I have no clue why women lie about their standards.
>If she's lying about her standards she's not going to chose you anyways so what's the point of lying?
The point of lying is to reap benefits.

>>81503464
>Bad guys that you dated?
just bad guys in general, i've never dated anyone
>Adorable in what way?
cutie patootie adorable
>>81503467
don't be sorry
what games do you like

>>81502239
>your personality
NTA The concept of a "personality" is one that is not well understood among the posters here.
Not necessarily only by their own fault of course.
Still, they are guilty of not starting to make better decisions from THIS VERY SECOND on forward.

The blackpill itself essentially is pure cope, funny that since they like to throw that word at others, in order to silence what little conscience they have.

The little, barely noticeable, voice in the back of their head that goes "This isn't right, you could do so much better, but you're sabotaging yourself every step of the way!".

Pesky little thing that.

>>81503553
>just bad guys in general, i've never dated anyone
You actually won't let me win lmao.
>cutie patootie adorable
I give up. Perhaps not all women are chadsexual. Perhaps some women prefer guys like me.

>>81503598
wow, i'm pleasantly surprised

yayy

don't give up

>>81503553
>what games do you like
i like survival games. what games do you like?
completely unrelated, i dont know why but cutie patootie is a cutie patootie thing to say

Everyone has standard whether theyre deemed 'low' or 'high' even the most retarded incel has somewhat standards

Anyone saying they have 0 standards is a literal retard

>>81503655
i don't really play games, just minecraft and sims and stuff sometimes

and i only said that cause i didn't know how else to describe it lol

>>81503632
>wow, i'm pleasantly surprised
Why? We've been arguing for close to an hour and I've gotten nowhere and nothing that I say sticks. You just deny it. At this point I actually believe you.

>>81501956 (OP)
Ahahahahahahah, o.p. is older than 25 and still a pathetic loser virgin.
Ahahahahahahahahahha.
Your mystery sustains me.

>>81503670
Yeah but so many retards, incels, desperate whores and woke bitches will tell you standards dont matter and theyll settle for anyone

>>81503713
because you said you believe me, i would assume you'd just keep arguing until i got tired or denied it

>>81502161
>foids deserve dehumanization and suffering
Dangerously based.

>>81503710
i play minecraft from time to time too but i spend the whole day mining straight down
well anyway its ok its nice you dont spend too much time in front of the computer

>>81503753
>Ahahahahahahah, o.p. is older than 25 and still a pathetic loser virgin. >Ahahahahahahahahahha
>Your mystery sustains me.
Do you enjoy humiliating me like this? I'm not a loser. Stop it now. Post tits.
>>81503758
>because you said you believe me
I guess.
>i would assume you'd just keep arguing until i got tired or denied it
Would you really argue with me for that long? Lol

>>81503802
mining is nice sometimes
i don't use my computer that much but i use my phone a lot so i'm still bad
what other games do you like
>>81503807
wouldn't be the first time i've done it

>>81503807
>Do you enjoy humiliating me like this? I'm not a loser. Stop it now. Post tits.
Yes I do, ahahaha.
Imagine being this obsessed and hating something this much just because you can't get it, posting obsessed topics on some board where all the criticism fundamentally comes down to
>Mummy, they're mean, because they don't LOVE ME
Ahahahaha
Would be one thing if you posted angrily about immigrants all the time and how they steal things or whatever but your angry obsession literally always comes down to not being loved by the thing you hate, that's hilarious.

Anon, you don't hate foids, you love them and are obsessed with them, what you hate is that they don't love you.
Smart foids by the way, you're pathetic, I wouldn't love you either but you're fun to laugh at though.

>>81504124
>Yes I do, ahahaha
Women are so cruel. Why are you like this?
>Imagine being this obsessed and hating something this much just because you can't get it.
To me it feels like I'm in the desert dying from thirst. I bet that makes you wet though. Cruel bitch.
>Would be one thing if you posted angrily about immigrants all the time and how they steal things or whatever but your angry obsession literally always comes down to not being loved by the thing you hate, that's hilarious.
I don't hate women though. I want to be loved by women that's true though, but im not.
>Anon, you don't hate foids, you love them and are obsessed with them, what you hate is that they don't love you.
I guess that's true. I just long to be loved. Would feel nice.
>Smart foids by the way, you're pathetic, I wouldn't love you either but you're fun to laugh at though.
That's all I'm good for it seems. If I were to get a relationship what would that look like? She'd probably just boss me around and treat me like her toy.

>>81504084
>i don't use my computer that much but i use my phone a lot so i'm still bad
>what other games do you like
that is okay, but i suppose you do other things around your house or walk from time to time, right?
uhh i dont play much myself, i am looking for games because i have lots of free time for now. do you have any recs?

>>81504247
>To me it feels like I'm in the desert dying from thirst. I bet that makes you wet though. Cruel bitch.
You and if you were just miserable and thirsty I wouldn't laugh at you and have some kind of compassion.
But imagine getting angry at water for not being in the desert and writing all sorts of posts about how water is the most awful thing ever while all you want is a drink, that's so pathetic and sour grapes.

Anon, if foids are so mean and awful apparently, why do you want to date them so much? You complain about their shit tastes but you apparently really want to date something so awful and mean.

>I don't hate women though. I want to be loved by women that's true though, but im not.

You just called them cruel because someone on the internet laughs at you whom you assume to be female just for laughing at you.

>That's all I'm good for it seems. If I were to get a relationship what would that look like? She'd probably just boss me around and treat me like her toy.
See, you assume this from the start and yet you want it.

>>81504287
>i suppose you do other things around your house or walk from time to time
i guess so
>do you have any recs?
not really, which is why i asked you lol

>>81504412
i guess no games will be played today, then. i will go back to do house chores, maybe ill figure something out

>>81504400
>You and if you were just miserable and thirsty I wouldn't laugh at you and have some kind of compassion
Bummer.
>But imagine getting angry at water for not being in the desert and writing all sorts of posts about how water is the most awful thing ever while all you want is a drink, that's so pathetic and sour grapes
Pls call me pathetic again. Also, I don't think that women are awful. Just different. I was joking when I called you cruel.
>Anon, if foids are so mean and awful apparently, why do you want to date them so much?
Because they are mean and I want them to treat me poorly. I'm also really lonely and want to feel loved.
>You complain about their shit tastes but you apparently really want to date something so awful and mean.
See my reply above.
>You just called them cruel because someone on the internet laughs at you whom you assume to be female just for laughing at you.
No I called you cruel. Someone whom I assumed was a woman into humiliating me which I'm turned on by.
>See, you assume this from the start and yet you want it.
You said it yourself. I want it lol.