>hangout in female community
>mangas and stories are shared and giggled over with beautiful, dominant men who kidnap you or make you their pet
>almost zero submissive male content (and in the rare case that there is a sub male, he's beautiful and still assertive in bed sometimes so basically a switch)

>hangout on /r9k/ or other mostly male communities
>i want a dommy mommy! mom incest me suck nipples!
>i wish my gf would put a pink chastity cage around my dick :(
>i want a woman to choke me, put her feet in my face and make me her pet

Huh....

>>81510324 (OP)
being a sub male is one of the hardest struggles in life

Those are a tiny minority. Now tell us what you are. A submissive female?

>>81510324 (OP)
>terminally online nerds are submissive
No shit. Dominant men are in the real world.

>>81510514
I had two different female friends tell me that their CHAD real world boyfriend had submissive leanings or they found femdom porn or weird sissy shit on their phones.

>>81510324 (OP)
Have you considered your view of male tastes is a little skewed because you inhabit predominantly autistic male communities, in which there is an overrepresentation of male submissiveness and control fantasies? Most men aren't submissive at all. And no, women don't find submissive men attractive (generally speaking), but they'll tolerate it I imagine if they really love him/"because it gets it off," while they'll get nothing out of it.

>>81510324 (OP)
I just want some to be wholesome with no kinky shit
but yeah you're right that's basically impossible

>>81510904
see >>81510562 and know

Its a well known fact that women are not sexually attracted to submissive men but the dominatrix is still a common male fantasy
It is unequal and unfair but that is how it is

>>81510562
I've never kissed a girl while those guys get gfs. Only looks matter

I wish I had a normal mom so i never got the femdom curse

>>81511367
>Its a well known fact that women are not sexually attracted to submissive men
since when? kek
lots of dominant (biological) women exist
i'm sorry you can't find one, incel

>>81510562
Not surprising. Men yearn for motherly affection.

>>81510324 (OP)
Females taste sweeter.

>>81511386
Are the dominant women in the room with us right now
OP just said that in all the female groups they are into dominant men

>>81511402
But boy moms literally worship their sons. I think men are just greedy. My mom barely paid attention to me and my dad ignored me but I don't have some desire for a parent role in my relationship I just want a friendly life partner to bang.

>>81511416
>all the female groups
sorry i didn't know OP's female groups represent literally all women
you're a retard and i'm not surprised by your dumbass thought process whatsoever. lmao

>>81511421
It your parents were super controlling and strict and abusive and narcissistic then you would have fetishes
I wish my parents ignored me

>>81511421
>But boy moms literally worship their sons
Yes, and it's one of the purest affection a guy can experience. It doesn't have to be constant coddling. Just the feeling that you're cherished and appreciated.

>>81511386
>>81511448
>>81511416
I'm OP. It's true that dominant women aren't rare in non-sexual contexts - I'm quite dominant and bossy in my everyday life. But when it comes to sexual kinks and preferences, dominant women are much more uncommon and definitely in the minority.

In popular erotica, games, media, or character portrayals, you'll find that male submissives make up maybe 1% of what's out there... Male characters are almost always dominant on some level, or at the very least, switches. While a man can be submissive outside the bedroom, submissiveness as a sexual kink is rarely represented in aimed-at-females content.

>>81510324 (OP)
Most people are subs. No matter the sex

>>81511561
Yeah I actually believe this. And I think that men are often just prison-dominant, as in they perform it to get laid or fulfill the expectations set on them by women.

You can kinda see this desire in people with religion too to be lead, controlled, have a daddy/mommy pull the strings.

>>81511570
>prison-dominant
It me!

>>81510324 (OP)
Not really representative of society at large. I do find it funny, however, how women get a free pass at talking about porn. "Spicy" book clubs are more common than the normal variety. Could you imagine if men got together once a week to drink and talk about the hentai they gooned to over the week?

>>81511767
Because the porn we read is far more elaborate? It's like 90% story and maybe 10% sexual scenes or less.

>>81511570
The overlap between religious rituals and bdsm practices is too large to be coincidental. I don't mean leather and whips, but rather things like kneeling and bowing, offering praises, obeying commands, swearing obedience, or expressing fear, humility and submission. The word worship itself is used heavily in both contexts. And think about the phrase "god-fearing". Didn't that always sound a little cringing, a little obsequious?

But then how do you interpret this? Perhaps religion is an expression of deep human frailty, and a desire for the comfort of authority. Or you could say that these sexual desires arise in people who have turned away from god, who ought to be the one true object of their devotion. I don't know. Surely someone in the 18th or 19th century already wrote about this.

>>81511776
Nice try, roastie. Guys play visual novels with sex in it. It would be seen as very weird to meet and talk about it.

>>81510410
i would correct that to "being a STRAIGHT sub male"

im a gay femboy sub and like ive had so much cum in my ass over the years it definitely goes a lot smoother

>>81511545
>I'm quite dominant and bossy in my everyday life. But when it comes to sexual kinks and preferences, dominant women are much more uncommon
I was very disappointed back when I realized feminism was bullshit and when women say they want equality they actually mean behaving like women still and just getting more money or respect in spite of their behavior.
Every feminist still wants to be choked and treated like a pet. They just want society to accept that situation as respectable rather than wanting to be in an equal relationship.

>>81512571
>Every feminist still wants to be choked and treated like a pet.
Everyone kinda does. Humans evolved this way. Men just have to act hard.

The men on this board don't represent men in the real world, we are all the mentally ill minority here.

>>81510324 (OP)
Sub males are so unattractive its insane. I seem to attract them because they think Im dominant which I find very offensive. So now i hate them

>>81512530
it's weird. I'm a total sub fag but I can imagine being dominate for a guy I like every so often. It doesn't give me the "ick" or anything.

But women lose their fucking mind over the idea.

>>81512624
That just makes you hotter to me

>>81512624
I wanted to say. Sub guys like being detested or bullied, so yeah.

My ex gf loved me dominating her but it was just an act and my heart wasnt in it
I did it for her because I cared about her and wanted her to be happy but she couldnt do the same for me

>>81512624
It's mutual, sweetie.

>>81513014
nah its not it gets your little sub clitty hard

>>81513825
Fuckin nice
Damn straight

>>81510324 (OP)
I'm a switch but I'm too scared of rejection from women so it doesn't really matter because I'd have to be with them first anyway to really be le heckin dominant at all

>>81511545
i'm aware and i never argued that. i never said they were common, but they certainly exist. i've met two over the course of my life

i just find it funny when submissive incels whine about dominant women not existing when they definitely do

>>81514643
>i've met two over the course of my life
>I've met two exclusively sexually dominant women who gave me hardcore dominant sex.

Things that never happened

>>81513825
Not if you were the last roastie in the universe

>>81515420
>he says while stroking his little clitty
lmao

>>81510324 (OP)
sounds to me like confirmation bias

>>81515429
Fuckin got his ass

It's not about "why" do you want a girlfriend but more about do you "need" a girlfriend fr

>>81510324 (OP)
men do it because role reversal is fun

women don't because it's way more realistic to rehabilitate le broken bully man that to physically dominate a man into submission, plus they are better than men so they don't care that much about le power.

>>81511834
Because that's always pedo crap. Sensible pornography by males is simply not a thing.

>>81510324 (OP)
>Women are submissive
>Men who grew up on porn and don't go outside became socially stunted and have become submissive
>/r9k/ which is full of homosexuals now is into gay shit
Wow, what a revelation?
>>81511509
>It your parents were super controlling and strict and abusive and narcissistic then you would have fetishes
NTA but lolno, I grew up with unrestricted internet access, my parents let me do whatever tf I wanted. I discovered porn and masturbation when I was six and developed all kinds of fetishes thanks to the internet. I think I would've been happier in life if I grew up blind since I would never have gained so many fucked up fantasies and seen how shit the world is.

>>81516469
Im sorry you were raped by the internet anon thats sad you didnt get to enjoy a normal childhood
Its not your fault

It is what it is at this point

>>81511421
women are so fucking ignorant and uneducated
they got all the diplomas but they don't know shit
men aren't "greedy",
their bodies just don't produce enough oxytocin naturally, this is by design, so they are forced to try harder to earn their place in society

Oxytocin is the loyalty hormone, it makes you agreeable, generous, content, it makes you the opposite of a mass shooter.
Women produce more of it naturally, so they're not forced to rely on external sources as much.

Some women figure this out partly and they're like: "wow men are so hopeless without women they literally addicted n shit"
Dumb whores don't even realize it's all by design.
And you can be damn sure that a man isn't getting his fill from his homies, since men don't touch other men, oxytocin cannot be produced.