I have gained personal results from working with Olympic Spirits and archangels, far more real than any denialism that you can through at me in this thread. Things have happened to me that I cannot explain, and my life has gotten significantly better with their help. I do however suffer from constant fatigue and executive dysfunction, and I wonder if part of the reason why I was called to the occult path is because I am so incompetent in living in the material world that I am naturally more inclined in the other. I have experienced the reality of the supernatural face to face, in an undeniable practical sense.

I am not going to lengths to convince anyone of its reality, this thread is more of a fishing net to find those who are called on this path who may have taken the wrong road and need a sign to follow the path they were meant to walk. Maybe Ill find no one, but one person taking up the spiritual path they were destined to walk would make this thread worth it. I will say that this path requires sacrifice, of your ego and your Self, to transcend ones limitations. You are not trying to do your egos Will, but your True Will, and you are required to sacrifice your lower will to your True Will. In any magical operation look not for the result you initially wanted, but whatever God has bestowed upon you which is in itself a responsibility. But which joy is that responsibility, as in the dissolution of the Self! I will say this, whatever you gain may be more joyful and meaningful to you than whatever you initially thought, it will in many ways be perfect but at the end of the day it is a service and responsibility given you. But as Jesus said, my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Thus true service in the light of infinite love feels like ecstasy. Also, learn about the law of equivalent exchange, but sacrifice to your fellow man in the name of God instead of a sacrificing a goat. You may ask to have God bless the spirit you are working with

>>81512082 (OP)
I believe it. Based awakened one.

>>81512082 (OP)
I'm on a spiritual journey but it has nothing to do with Jesus and God or any other made up bullshit. Larp harder fag

>>81512082 (OP)
I am far from perfect, and I am no enlightened saint. But I know these ideals to be true, and something to work towards. There is complete joy in absolute self-sacrifice, a perfect couple will life for each other and know no self or the other - but recognise each other as one. Thats the self-sacrifice I am talking about, ego-death, no self hatred or the martyrdom of the masochistic. Do not mistake the infinite love of self-sacrifice with
>I am worthless, I do not deserve anything because I am worthless and others do
Its more so about responsibility and service, and loss of the Self

>>81512118
>For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
Your path is your path.

>>81512118
>And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be.

>>81512082 (OP)
How do you actually know they are angels?
>For Satan will show himself as an Angel of light

>>81512359
Satan can never lie about who he is. All you need to do is ask. Nor can demons. Their caveat is they have to tell the truth about their identity.

>>81512359
> 22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the [d]blind and mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, "Could this be the Son of David?"

>24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, "This fellow does not cast out demons except by [e]Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons."

>25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? 27 And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

Why would a demon cause you to improve yourself, rid yourself of vices and bring genuinely good things into your life? For a demon wont act against the best interest of its nature. You shall judge by their fruits, and also you shall judge every spirit if they are of the spirit of the gospel or whatever genuine spiritual path you are on

I agree with a lot of what you said and I am going down a similar path. I am studying jungian psychology and currently making efforts to individuate by managing my complexes. It sounds to me like you are also individuating, but have wrapped it around a layer of religious symbolism... which is fine, but totally not necessary... and to be honest could become an obstacle if not made conscious.

Didn't read the whole thing (my bad) but I had strikingly similar thoughts just today
That the reason this stuff is happening to me isn't something as ego gratifying as I want it to be (that I'm special and cool), but because I'm misshapen and imcompatible

>>81512388
Yeah just like feds

I seriously doubt archangels and olympians play well together, and it seems likely your "results" happen because they're using you to prank each other.

>>81512388
So only god can lie?

Is anyone else in the dark night of the soul?

>>81512555
Not OP but only olympians Ive ever dealt with were Aphrodite (she loved me) and Athena (she loved my mom like I do)
Angels on the other hand were austere and only seem to care about punishing me and putting me back in my place

>>81513148
Sometimes angels will slap you to get you on the right track, so they can give you what you need and then benefit more than you can before. Its the discipline thats like one of a caring parent, they arent punishing you, they are just trying to get rid of what isnt good for you so you have a more solid foundation to build upon

Can i make a deal with archangel michael to protect me from all demons, then make a deal with a demon to give me stuff, then invoke my deal with michael to kill the demon?

>>81513944
You dont need to use demons to get stuff, thats my point. Anything you gain through the God/the Higher Will etc. will be more valuable and meaningful, which is why you should work with the archangels directly to get what you need

But as for your question, it is highly recommended to invoke the powers of angels/higher powers in any ceremony that involves demons. Never make a deal with the demon directly, never sacrifice towards the demon. Bind demons out of necessity, but dont treat them cruelly, dont torture them to do your bidding (medieval grimoires instruct you to do this, avoid the temptation, a lot of the Goetia is a test) and never let your ego drive your interactions with them. You can get results by operating in the classic medieval method of binding and torturing demons, but is it good? You can also get results by making offering to demons, but then you are just allowing them to take over you and your force, by sacrificing to a demon you are allowing them into you, allowing them to be a larger part of existence and you are arguably making their nature worse by letting them give into their consumptive nature and hunger. Treat them like naughty children that you are given care towards, to discipline and teach. You should never mess with demons at a lower spiritual level, most people wont have the need to do anything with them ever. The Elus Coens and the book of Abramelin the Mage gives a good idea of what to do with them, you are trying to invert their darker nature into the light. You work with demons to redeem them, for their benefit, and by doing so you redeem the darker side of yourself. This is shadow work, by working on the microcosm you effect the macrocosm and vice versa. To act as the remedy against evil. Do not be tempted by what demons can give you, in fact use your intelligence to seek after the opposite of what they can give

>>81512609
I am in a moment of dryness, but I find every dark night of the soul is before a big break through

>>81512555
Olympic spirits are spirits from the Arbatel, not the Greek gods per se, they are planetary intelligences. Working with Greek gods/godforms and archangels, surprisingly, works well because everything you think is true about religion is a lie

>>81512118
>I'm on a spiritual journey
to hell

Jewish schizophrenia thread. Abraham was a demon and all of his spawn are evil. This includes the ideologies of his spawn.

>>81512082 (OP)
How do I get my ex back?

>>81516372
Abraham wasnt even a real person m8, dont take the bible literally

>>81516466
Im being 100% genuine here I need divine help

Those are not "olympic" spirits or archangels. Those are demons pretending to be.

>>81516559
Ask for a different woman, or at least ask to find love without mentioning or implying your ex. If it was meant to be you would reunite at that request, but it probably isnt and you are better off asking for someone more suited for you. The easiest thing you can do now is too look into the gallery of magick book for archangels, a simple prayer of intercession for archangel Anael, or a sort of candle magic spell where you have the sigil of anael burn on a green candle after requesting intercession with intent. All these should be done on the first hour of dawn on a Friday, or the hour of Venus on a Friday (check planetary hours). Never ask for her back, never ask for her to love you. Do not do it. Seriously. Even if you got what you wanted, it would not be worth it, you will regret it. Do it as close to after a new moon. Give a multiple of 7 to a womans charity, or volunteer towards something relevant to Venus. Say this is a sacrifice to God in the name of YHVH Tzbaoth for the operation. Give as much as you feel you need to, to bring up energy. Be 100 percent confident when you do it. Then forget about it, dont care if it happens or if you will get your result. Do not let it enter your mind. It takes way more effort to learn cerimonial magic, and it will take long time if you want to learn magic effectively and properly. If you want actual results that matter.

The principles of cerimonial magic isnt something you can just master in a day though, and if you want to embark on the path of learning how to do it, I recommend looking into the instructions found in books such as kabbalah magic & the great work of self transformation a complete course, self-initiation into the Golden Dawn and the Mystical Magical System of the A.A./Liber ABA (Magick, book 4). Magick book 4 is invaluable for directly learning how to actually do magic, the other books just give a step by step program. All these books can easily be found free by searching them up online.

>>81512082 (OP)
You sound like a good soul OP, I'm exploring my divine truth in the same manner, and I hope I continue to do better and good with my re-found holy spirit, and connection with God and the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible, I hope to embrace the essence of the Archangel that shares the same name as my given name, as learning about him gave me a sense of pride and mentality that I can do better, and things can be better if I hold and strengthen my faith unto others, and lend a hand to those in need in whatever manner I could provide, I have made mistakes and regrets in the past that I am ashamed of, but these wrongdoings adds weight to my resolve, and will bring focus upon my spirituality and faith in Humanity, God and the Cosmos
peace be with you OP, and everyone else here in good faith ITT