Do you have a plan or are you just waging?
How did you find the motivation to stop being a bum?
Do you still hate work?

Everyone hates work
Except mike rowe

>Do you have a plan or are you just waging?
no plans yet im too bare bones
>How did you find the motivation to stop being a bum?
green paper dopamine also i hate living with my mom shes a bitch
>Do you still hate work?
im on break right now and i wanna shoot myself
12 hour shift + hour drive + hours needed for sleep/eating/washing/chores means i only get like 1-3 hours of leisure before im asleep and preparing for the next day of wagecucking
THE GREEN PAPER IS PRETTY GOOD THOUGH

>>81518084
>green paper dopamine
must be nice to save up money. I have nothing left after my paycheck comes.

I go through phases where I work for a year, neet for a year, repeat. I've always had a delusional confidence that I can boomer handshake my way into any low-tier job I want. any restaurant or warehouse at least. so far it's proved true. I don't really have a plan. just going to walk up the street and start talking to people in random buildings whenever the neet shame becomes too great

>>81517374 (OP)
NEETs will be soon the new society and we will all be friends.

>>81517374 (OP)
Applied for a job as an after hours cleaner in a rural town. My bosses are very nice people and they immediatedly liked me because i actually showed up for my shifts.

Not really a plan for the long term. I strive for a laid back existence. After sleeping for 10 hours I spend an hour being productive at home, learning japanese, piano and working out. Then I goon and game, work for a couple hours, then goon and game some more. I cook healthy meals and dont overindulge in junk food too much. Whatever.

Motivation? I got into philosophy (literally just videos on youtube) which led to psychology and learning about cognitive schema and cbt. If you ask me, CBT is needlessly complicated by psychologists and simply does not require their help. The whole industry is a scam. You just need to read about how it works and remember to do it and why you do it.
But i do think you need some sort of philosophical framework first, even if its abstract and unrefined, it doesnt matter.

No i like my job. I work in total isolation cleaning offices which i enjoy somewhat and listening to music, youtube, audiobooks. My boss gives me a retarded amount of flexibility and agency. Can do my shifts whenever i feel like it.
>y..youre a loser!
Certainly by societys view. I still live with my dad. But i've never had any respect for society so...why should i care?

>>81518223
wagecucking is essentially participating in society anyhow

>>81518300
True but I certainly dont feel very connected to it. Or rather this job allows me to keep a very respectable distance while getting it's benefits. I still have to buy groceries and such. You cannot truly disconnect.
>"Society is in this respect like a fire - the wise man warming himself at a proper distance from it; not coming too close, like the fool, who, on getting scorched, runs away and shivers in solitude, loud in his complaint that the fire burns"

>>81517374 (OP)
I work 1y in gov job and neeted for almost 4y before. Before it Ive worked 3y in megacorp and neeted for 2y before that.
Before my first job ive tried 2 startups that failed.
I think i didnt hate work, i was just broken by reality of our world, firstly when i wasted almost 2y on startups that ended in nothing because associeted people didnt deliver and again when I got shitcanned in corp.
I hate how soul crashing work can be, I hate how it steals your time, when the job itself is mundane/stupid/work for the sake of work with no substance or thought behind it.
The worst time for me is when i actualy must search for work. I hate that i need to play this game of bait and switch, when go to work I get accustomed to it.
My current work is good, of course it could be better, but lets be real, no work is perfect. I mostly care about stress factor now, because Im afraid of a burnout. Not the kind of "lossing job burnout", but burnout leading to depression/feeling like a shit. My current job is mostly stressfree.
The earlier corp work destroyed my work ethics and I needed much time to rebuild it to some degree.
I think I dont hate work, I like some parts of it, like when I can use my abilities to overcome some obstacle and normies around react like some kind of superman/it specialist. I hate some parts of it like the fact that i dont have more work from home days, or that I still need to act like a subordinate to my boss, even when I really cant have that much bad stuff to say about her.
All in all both modes have perks and vices, im positive that you can be a happy neet as you can be a happy working individual. But from my expirience nothing is good for you on the long term. Ideally I would work 3-4 days a week, 50%-50% at office/home, that way I would be still engaging in some kind of work/have bonus money (I have background income) while maintaining more levels of freedom with more free time and less hustle.

>>81517374 (OP)
i had a good stretch where i was neeting at 21ish. it was through covid.

here's the funny thing: you can't always have an airtight plan. sometimes you have to do something, right away, and make it work later. that sounds like horrible advice, but honestly, when the alternative is just waiting around doing nothing there is really no contest.

the "motivation" was my parents constantly asking how the job search was going. i had gotten laid off from my first machining job (had other jobs before), and i was pretty defeated at the time. i had experience neeting before, just sitting at home all summer while parents worked. i ended up putting a year into retail again before finding my current, long standing job at a good union machine shop. i moved out a month ago, almost a month and a half.

>>81517374 (OP)
freelance copywriter here, ex neet
> Do you have a plan or are you just waging?
I'm working on making a game, but there's no telling if that will ever become a viable career path as a solo developer (probably not).
> How did you find the motivation to stop being a bum?
My choices were either to keep being miserable or put in the work over years to slowly change myself. For anyone capable of introspection it's not a difficult choice. Granted I was never stupid enough to buy into that pill women-hating jew-blaming garbage, which gave me a foot up on many.
> Do you still hate work?
It took me a long time to find a job I don't hate, though I can't say I love it. Still, I'm luckier than most.

>>81519297
>copywriter
that's got to be a tough game now. how did generative slop impact your business? are you still finding people who understand that human writing is actually a good thing?

>>81517374 (OP)
>believing in dinosaurs

>>81517374 (OP)
I stopped being a neet by getting a job. Am currently posting while at work right now.
Have no gf though

I just bored of being a NEET
Nothing I filled my time with felt fun or interesting anymore.
Now I'm still depressed but I have a job

>>81519321
Dinosaurs are in the bible tho

>>81519318
it is kind of a problem, but more indirectly
as much as techbros or the uneducated like to think otherwise, AI in copywriting is utter dogshit when it tries to do anything unique. the problem is that its very good at writing cover letters, because that shit is so normalised. so we get a situation where dipshit AI fans think they can get a place copywriting because they are incapable of original thought, and that works through the job application stage. then it comes to writing actual original content and it fucking sucks ass.

what this means is that there are ten amazing AI job applications for every authentic copywriter. then the AI copywriters completely fail at delivering actual articles (which ive had to try to fix so many fucking times), so they get dropped and clients search for new writers again

it just wastes so much fucking time for braindead fuckwits who are too stupid to know how stupid they are that try to steal our jobs, and then fail. theyre too mentally subnormal to know that theyll fail, and theyre too subnormal to understand why they fail. the end result is a market where there is still a place for writers, but we have to find our place through an army of subnormals before we can find new clients

im lucky enough that i have years of experience before AI became a thing that I can get grandfathered in, but god fucking damn i cant imagine its easy for newcomers with all this drek

my neet days are soon to be over and i'm very scared

Had to, or my parents were going to kick me out. That was 2008 and I'm still experiencing wagecuck hell in 2025. The only good thing is I'm out on my own now.

>>81518101
and i have no time left after my shift is over
i just got home and im about to immediately go to bed

>>81520241
>braindead fuckwits who are too stupid to know how stupid they are that try to steal our jobs
Job apps are funny because the most retarded person you've ever met will look at an application for running a nuclear power plant and think "well I could probably do that it's worth a shot" and apply, while a person with a doctorate degree in nuclear physics will think "they want five years of experience but I only have four I guess I don't qualify" and won't apply lol.
Like every job application on LinkedIn has 200+ applicants and 197 of them aren't allowed to work in the US, don't match the degree requirements, can barely speak English, etc. It's just a completely retarded system.