Why haven't you lost your virginity yet ladies? Seriously, how?

I haven't found the right chad yet teehee

>>81520827 (OP)
smash
unt's got a fatty on her

>>81520827 (OP)
because i want to wait until marriage but im only pump and dump material

>>81520904
>im only pump and dump material
How bad are we talking here?

>>81520908
im very ugly facially and fat also a mutt

>>81520827 (OP)
Would smash this butterface fishcreature

>>81520924
Pump is dump is for chumps. String along/FWB is where it's at.

>>81520924
Just put a bag over your head.

>>81520827 (OP)
Dont want to. Terrified. Im volcel though so I guess it doesnt really count

>>81520940
i would never do that
>>81520942
so pump and dump

>>81520953
do you like kissing?

>>81520827 (OP)
Too ugly for sex
Seriously I don't know how other ugly people can have sex without feeling deeply ashamed and disgusted with themselves

>>81520984
Too ugly for a pump and dump too?

I don't want to, I have ugly roast beef

>>81520924
prove it post your face or tits so we can boost your morale!

>>81520997
Just don't shave. No one will know.

>>81520996
Too ugly to enjoy sex not too ugly to get sex

>>81521002
im only going to bet bullied and i already get enough of that irl

>>81521010
Just learn to get off on degradation and you'll be good.

>>81521012
WHAT THE FUCK IS NON ASCII TEXT AND WHY CANT i posT ANYTHING

>>81521012
i feel bad anon im sure your v pretty as long as men live someone will want to put their dick in u im autistic retarded and have a fat forehead but when i stopped giving a fuck and did drugs eventually i stopped getting bullied and got ppl to like me

>>81521034
I can't rewire my brain that way

>>81521073
i dont want them to just put their dick in me i want to be loved and cared for also i dont want to do drugs

>>81521122
no im not saying do drugs. I meant if ur afraid to go out just stop giving a fuck and do what u want to do as oppose to just doing nothing. stop giving a fuck is whst i was tryna say. and yeah i get what u mean about wanting to be loved, but that way ur not really a femcel ur just a loner.

>>81520827 (OP)
>mfw chad has a small penis (7 inches)

Femcels do not exist. Any 2/10 woman can still find betabuxx

>>81521961
Even the 1 on the scale has a wedding veil

>>81520827 (OP)
I have done. I just haven't had sex for like nearly a year due to being a shut in neet.

>>81522222
holy moly look at those pents
also i haven't had sex in 11 years, this month exactly now that i think about it

>>81520827 (OP)
>be the most desirable gender by a factor of 100
>have biological clock that makes you near-worthless by about 30
>still be extremely picky
What did foids mean by this?

>>81522009
the sunbathing land whale in row 3 is actually an 8

>>81522430
in the cases of fetishism a woman can gain 5 points

>>81520924
>Ugly
>fat
>Mutt

Yeah, it's over. The only caliber of men you'll be able to pull is/R9K/ residents, which as we know is less then ideal. Become a nun or something

>>81520827 (OP)
because i only want to do it with my boyfriend but i can't get one

>>81520827 (OP)
I'm disabled, guys don't want to even pump and dump a wheelchair girl

>>81522595
This is absolutely and utterly false.

>>81522599
I've tried to even get pumped and dumped and no success even like tinder just for sex, to see if it was possible

>>81521010
I don't understand, how does this work?

>>81520827 (OP)
I used to be a normie until having a disfiguring accident, now have never been asked since let alone dating or sex. But that makes sense yah

>>81522707
The idea of having sex in this repulsive body disgusts me and makes me lose all libido

>>81523077
Repulsive how? Are you a fat fuck or what?

>>81520827 (OP)
a mask or a paper bag is a creative solution

>>81523090
>Are you a fat fuck
No, I'm ugly
No hips, no ass, small sad tits, and hideous bag-worthy face

>>81522670
>I've tried to even get pumped and dumped
I'll fuck your ass immobile lass.

>>81523240
>No hips, no ass, small sad tits
This doesn't matter. And how exactly is your face ugly?

>>81523240
Height and hair color please and thank you?

>>81523332
>It doesn't matter if you lack all the things that make a female body attractive
Very funny anon
>how exactly is your face ugly?
I look exactly like this

>>81523467
i know a girl that looks exactly like this and is super skinny and she has 2 children, she's 23

>>81523467
You could get a BF. This isn't the worst and no the body type doesn't matter. I will never understand why you foids think like that.

>>81523240
>no hips
>no ass
Fixable
>small sad tits
Flat chest or saggy?
It just sounds like you're a malnourished mouthbreather.

>>81522446
actually they dont want me either, ive tried

the ones who dont mind you being fat want you to be white and the ones who dont mind you being a mutt want you to be skinny

>>81523530
Then just lose weight?

>>81523530
^
If local weirdos don't like you then you must be a tad too fat.

>>81522009
A lot of the 6s and 7s have more striking and unique features then the 8s and 9s
and have less makeup and not good lighting so they all look much better to me

>>81520827 (OP)
this bitch has an ugly face but a decent body

>>81523540
im trying to but im a very weak-willed person and it takes time
>>81523570
i know but it could also be worse

>>81523508
I know men will fuck anything that moves but what's the point of getting fucked if I won't enjoy it
>>81523510
>Flat chest or saggy?
They're like type 1 tuberous
A bit deflated, A cups, and have big areola

>>81523624
That doesn't sound too bad unless they're lopsided, you sure you're not malnourished though?

>>81523622
If your belly is large enough to fold like a tit, it's definitely too much, if it's not that bad train for strength, at least it's fun.

>>81523494
Yeah but the guy she fucked probably wasn't a Chad

>>81523674
No I'd like to lose some weight actually
It's clear that I can't put on weight where it matters so I might as well skellymode

>>81523624
I don't understand it though. With all your descriptions you aren't repulsive and people that are actually hideous monstrosities still fuck.

>>81523785
>and people that are actually hideous monstrosities still fuck
And I don't understand THAT
How can those people do that? Don't they feel extreme shame and humiliation? I can't even masturbate without feeling suicidal imaging how disgusting and stupid I must look
I have to keep my clothes on when I masturbate
Like the woman in op is insane taking pictures like that with that deformed face and obese body, she should be in hiding

>>81523784
Don't be retarded, sticks are hideous, by malnourished I mean eating poorly, it will make your skin and tits saggy.

>>81520827 (OP)
implying any females in this thread

>>81523799
She may be angle smithing but her ass looks good, her face does look ugly though.

>>81523843
Oh yea I was prescribed a load of vitamins recently because I eat the same bland non-nutritious things all the time

>>81523963
And you wonder why you're a saggy mouthbreather with self esteem issues?
Why fuck around? Be a better friend to yourself.
You remind me of this weird chick I used to train.

>>81523963
>I eat the same bland non-nutritious things all the time
you have autism

>>81520904
>"I need a contract with a third party (the government) for me to love someone"
Brutal

>>81524065
I get told that a lot for various reasons but I think my behavior is just the result of neglectful parents

>>81524551
Yeastbag cope.

>>81524576
You got to fix that, bad diet chews body and mind, breathe through your nose while you're at it.

Not a femcel, but for me, I'm waiting until me and my boyfriend get married. I think it's one of the greatest gifts a wife can give her husband, and it's why I'm sticking to it and he's supportive of my efforts despite some days, I just really want to have sex with him.

>>81525090
Dumb prude

because i can't afford electrolysis to get rid of my fucking beard.

no, i'm not a tranny. i'm a biological female with pcos.

>>81525891
i have this too nonny its so over for us

why isn't my filter fucking working

>>81522595
>tfw no wheelchair gf to take care of :(

>>81525895
electrolysis is truly my last resort. i've done everything my doctor suggested to help "balance my hormones" including losing 50+ lbs, and i'm on a fucking t-blocker. it's only getting worse.

why has god forsaken us.

Lol this is the female version of having gyno

>>81525891
how much even is electrolysis? do u have a mcjob

>>81525891
Jesus, how hairy does your muff get?

>>81526016
>how much even is electrolysis?
it depends on how many sessions you need, and how long each session takes. i think the average cost for the full chin/neck area is like $10k usd over the course of a year or so.

>do u have a mcjob
not yet. i'm in grad school

>>81525891
>my fucking beard.
thats not even a beard, thats just a little of neck hair

>>81525953
What happens without t blockers?
Do you get the full cuntboy experience?

>>81526327
total annihilation. without it she will look like hulk hogan. feelsbadman

>>81520827 (OP)
Im a manlet loser and I would not fuck that ugly land whale. Women that ugly should kill themselves.

>>81526327
>Do you get the full cuntboy experience?
only in rare cases. most of us just get obese, hairy and infertile. for a lot of women their pcos symptoms get better with weight loss alone, but in extreme cases they'll prescribe t-blockers.

>>81522009
why is everyone here british?

>>81526540
>obese
I'd have bet on the opposite, hairy and infertile make sense.

im black 26 year old female virgin who never kissed a guy or went on a date before. all the guys i knew preferred nonblack girls or thought i was too autistic for them. i don't know what it's like to have a boyfriend and i don't approach without getting extremely nervous and self conscious

>>81526596
>I'd have bet on the opposite, hairy and infertile make sense.
right?! you'd think the increased testosterone would result in a lower body fat %, but even with the pcos testosterone buff our levels are nothing compared to the average male

>>81526682
i would smooch and cuddle you

>>81526682
I kneel for my sperg nubian kveens.

>>81526691
Still weird to get fatter.
Does it fuck up your insulin too?

>>81526682
Just go for black men instead of white men then.

literal plap goddess

>>81526918
But she's built for BWC.

>>81526945
She says she's a 26 year old virgin so clearly she isn't.

>>81526901
yes!!!!!! it fucked up my insulin so bad. I went from a normal fasting blood glucose level to almost diabetic in like 2 years for no reason at all.

shoutout to all the glp1 agonists that started coming out right when I got diagnosed with this shit. they really came in clutch ngl

>>81526961
She's been saving her purity for it, she clearly deserves the BWC.

>>81526970
Sometimes I wish I were a psychopath instead of a sperg and know about flesh instead of machines so I'd understand how messing up your ovaries fucks up your insulin.
Does it do other weird stuff?

>>81526682
Built for big indian cock.

>>81520924
>im very ugly facially and fat also a mutt
How
ugly
are
you!
clap clap!

>>81527114
very ugly masculine and asymmetrical face

>>81527130
>very ugly masculine
Masculine slob type or gigachad jaw?
Big nose?

>>81520827 (OP)
cus im chopped as fuck

>>81527156
slob type obviously since im fat and yeah big nose too

but my jaw is kinda good if i was skinny i would probably have a chad jaw

>>81527184
If you're dark and big titted you may not be that bad if you lose weight.

>>81527244
if i lose weight everything will sag including my tits also fixing my body wont fix my face

>>81527258
>sag
Are you morbidly obese and in your 30s?
>won't fix my face
If your face is full of fat it just might, what's asymmetrical about it anyway?

>>81527298
>morbidly obese
close
>in your 30s
not close
>what's asymmetrical about it anyway?
basically everything, but my eyes are the worst

I legitimately don't understand why women still try seeking validation from this board. What I've gained from browsing here, from an anthropological perspective at least, is that my interest in males has completely dissolved. Knowing that this is how the general population views my sex has been incredibly enlightening. Probably will be lost in the sea of roleplay but perhaps this might reach the demographic I have in mind.

>>81527341
You're probably overthinking the sag unless your tits really are giant torpedoes.
>basically everything, eyes are the worst
How bad could they possibly be?

>>81527065
>how messing up your ovaries fucks up your insulin
medical research hasn't uncovered the exact mechanism between pcos and insulin resistance. we just know insulin resistance is highly correlated to pcos.

there's a few interesting working theories that relate the conditions tho. for example, women with chronic, low-grade inflammation tend to develop pcos. new research suggests that a rise in glucose levels (from insulin resistance) may stimulate oxidative stress which fucks up your mononuclear cells (thus your immune system) which worsens inflammation, and messes up your adipocytes and how they respond to hormones, which ends up fucking your entire endocrine system including the ovaries.

basically, one thing gets fucked up (your ovaries, insulin sensitivity, or weight) and it starts fucking everything else up, and has like a snowball effect where things just keep getting worse and worse, and the worse they get the harder it is to fix.

it's also kind of like the chicken/egg phenomena because we don't really know what the catalyst
is. also the development of pcos is very clearly genetic in some cases (for example, on my dad's side of the family literally every single female from my dad's generation down has it to varying degrees) while in other cases there's no family history.

there also seems to be a link between pcos development and adverse childhood experiences, which may relate to the high oxidative stress thing as childhood trauma can lead to chronic, high cortisol levels which often results in high oxidative stress!

>>81527380
Somebody needs some big dick.

>>81527380
*smooch* *smooch*

>>81527404
well they are pretty big so yes they sag and my eyes are horrible they are also hooded and always poof up in the morning it makes it so much worse

>>81523467
That's just alcohol fetal syndrome half the world looks like that

>>81527422
>>81527425
This will be the only time I engage, I get that you guys think you're being funny, but this board has made me well aware a majority of men are obsessed with porn and do not view women as human. Plenty of women are into that, strangely, but I've lost that interest.

What men here want is a concept, a fantasy of a girlfriend. To any "femcel" here that's hoping for a morsel of male validation: you will not be happy. It's only worth coming here to study the habitants, akin to an zoological field study. If you want legitimate discussion, be prepared to roleplay as a male.

>>81527418
Medical stuff is so interesting until I see the people that get fucked up by it.
Do diabetics get pcos at higher rates then?

>>81527483
I am not obsessed with porn but you are right in that I do not view you as human. You are an object less than a pet.

>>81527483
The dish washer is making weird noise again

>>81527430
But are they saggy now? Or at least were they saggy before you were fat?
>hooded eyes
That does sound strange on a mutt female.

>>81527483
Lesbians bored of each other when dissolved of the feeling of hating men

Aka go back to being straight out dead bedroom each other kek

>>81527483
Take it easy BPD I'm just breaking balls, plenty of people here are just freak magnets that got fatigued.

>>81527487
>Do diabetics get pcos at higher rates then?
yup! but the women who end up with both pcos and diabetes usually develop both diseases at the same time, so it's hard to know which causes which.

>>81520984
>>81521010

>>81523624
>>81525891
>>81520827 (OP)
GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD YOU FAT UGLY CUNT. POSTING PICS OF YOURSELF IS AGAINST THE RULES.

FUCKING LEAVE. NOT EVEN INCELS WANT TO FUCK YOUR DEFORMED, HIDEOUS BODY.

>>81527512
yes they are saggy now because of size and i was never not fat

also when i say hooded i mean like julia stiles not like asian people

>>81527547
that's not very good reddiquette, anon

>>81527479
FAS doesn't give you a huge hooked beak and a recessed jaw
It gives you a flat wide baby-like nose and a long philtrum
People need to stop calling everything FAS
>>81527547
That pic isn't me and the post isn't mine kys retard

>>81527483
Wish it was here only lol. A lot of men get gfs not because they like women but because they like the idea of having a gf.

>>81527553
>saggy
Saggy deflated or saggy so large they're getting pulled down by gravity? There's a big difference.
>hooded
Yes I got that, it's strange to picture a half black with hooded eyes, how dark are you?

>>81527545
And the fix is? Losing weight and praying?

>>81527649
>Saggy deflated or saggy so large they're getting pulled down by gravity?
both ? i dont know. theyre not mega full but theyre also big enough where them being perky would be unrealistic
>how dark are you?
pretty dark for someone mixed, brown to dark, get way darker in the summer too

>>81525891
>>81525895
Have you tried laser hair removal devices you can buy on Amazon? What about shaving?

>>81527677
>theyre not mega full but theyre also big enough where them being perky would be unrealistic
I'm not quite getting it, but I don't think they would ever look firm and perky if they're any huge and you get too fat, probably gets saggier the bigger your tits are naturally but I only had two chubby women give me a full display at length.
>pretty dark
That's good, it hides imperfections.

>>81527596
>vulture beak and recessed jaw
Can you be my khazar sugar mommy?

>>81527680
>Have you tried laser hair removal
I've tried real lazer hair removal and it literally did nothing. for some women with pcos it actually makes the hair grow back worse.

I shave twice a day lol

>>81527828
>shave
Why not an epilator?

>>81527925
hurts. plus it fucks my skin up bad. makes it all bumpy, inflamed and red.

>>81527925
Ntn, have you actually used one? They hurt like hell, and the pain never got any better despite what others have said. It's a slow torture. At least with waxing it's done quickly unlike epilating

>>81520827 (OP)
I live in a cabin which is a 2 hour drive from civilization and have a single guy friend

>>81520827 (OP)
>Top
jesus christ her eyes are terrifying. who needs Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee to protect you when she can just stare at a grizzly bear and scare the shit out of it?

>>81528614
>>81528665
I tried it once on my body and it just broke after pulling a hair, wish it worked.

>>81520904
How are you gonna know whos the right one if you dont know if you're sexually compatible? What if he doesn't like to eat pussy? what if yall wanna try something new but he/you ends up not wanting too? This christcuck larp shit is just so inefficient and medieval you end up wasting your life settling for less when you could just fuck the dude and know in a matter of weeks or months. Its not like these retarded faggots on here or any dude for that matter can determine the intricate clues of a secret whores pussy.

>>81529111
>nooooo you need to ride the cock carousel to see if he likes to eat ass
Cope.

>>81520924
oh come on now, its just an unflattering angle. you're a 5 >>81522009

>>81521002
Don't you have a show to ruin, sissy boy?.....

>>81520904
>im only pump and dump material
So not a femcel?

>>81529474
A folcel?

>>81522367
self-destructive evolutionary failure, many such cases

>>81529474
yes a femcel because i want someone who genuinely likes me and a man wanting to fuck and discard you doesn't mean he likes you
>>81529228
i'm like a 4.5
>>81529111
it's just unnecessary. if we both love and are attracted to each other then the sex will be good, and we will get better at it over time, sleeping around is retarded

>>81520827 (OP)
i am a 25 year old femcel and i don't think i will be losing my virginity, ever. i gave up many years ago. the reasons:
>being brown
>being ugly
>being autistic
any moid who denies a woman in this position has no chance of ever finding love is schizophrenic. i have gotten zero male attention my whole life and i will only get uglier, making it more likely that i will die alone.

>>81525847
Wanting to wait is a good thing. It makes it more special between the two of us. I'm going to go crazy on our wedding night. I seriously cannot wait. I really want to give the guy I love so much my virginity.

>>81520827 (OP)
I've never been in a real life relationship and I don't think I'll ever be in one

>>81530257
If I help out what do you expect from me

>>81530282
i expect nothing from men. i will never be able to have a boyfriend because i am too ugly. i have accepted this fate.

>>81530257
>any moid who denies a woman in this position has no chance of ever finding love is schizophrenic.
Do you mean that men in the same position would be fine? You should add "low-IQ" to that list of yours.

>>81530365
i didn't say any of that but already wrote people like you are schizo so thank you for proving my point. why did you feel to make this comparison? men and women are different.

>>81530418
>i didn't say any of that but already wrote people like you are schizo so thank you for proving my point. why did you feel to make this comparison? men and women are different.
What the fuck are you talking about, you projecting Schizophrenic???

>>81530303
Why not let me satisfy my white dick in your brown holes?

>>81530471
you don't want that. i am not attractive enough for sex.

>>81530518
Hypothetically, if I was down to try. Would you let me?

Oh boy, it's another
>fembots complaining about being single
>robots try to convince them they are dateable
>fembots deny claims
>robots double down, offer to drop contact
>get ignored
The cycle continues. The crazy thing is that fembots are probably higher quality on average than most of the chaff you see on /soc/, but they never want to engage outside of yearnposting

>>81530271
What if it turns out he only likes anal, and isn't interested in PIV due to vaginal-disgust???

>>81530525
this hypothetical would never happen. men only want pretty girls.
>>81530609
why would you take the males' word over ours? they literally don't know us, we are the ones who have lived as ugly women and never had any luck.
>>81530612
nta but he should kill himself for being a faggot.

>>81530609
it just never goes anywhere, the guys saying we're not that bad just think that we are average to attractive girls with body dysmorphia. once they realize you're actually unattractive they ghost you

>>81530662
moids be like "i would totally date you femcel" because they imagine a normie passing slightly mental 10/10 stacy who wears glasses sometimes but they run asap when they realize you are actually ugly

>>81530677
exactly, then they claim we're the ones who are chad only

>>81530654
>why would you take the males' word over ours?
Why would you not even try to engage beyond doomposting if a robot is trying? I'm curious as well, because I'd much rather try to start a family with a fembot than a normie. I don't want to try to wear the normie mask after I get off of work.
>>81530662
That's a fair point. I know I'm weary from all of my attempts, but I also know that if I stop trying, I won't be able to start a family.
>>81530677
>they imagine a normie passing slightly mental 10/10 stacy who wears glasses sometimes
I don't think this is true, at least that's not the impression I get from posts here. Maybe they are expecting a 4-5/10 and you have some kind of severe facial asymmetry or something. Obesity can be fixed, I wouldn't rule someone out entirely if they are willing to work on it. (I've lost 56 pounds myself since December since I know it's holding me back)

>>81530708
most of the guys on here aren't serious, some will just tell you what you want to hear in hopes of eventually getting nudes or something

>>81530708
what are your standards for a girl?

>>81530720
This is a fair point. I personally see any kind of willingness to send nudes as a bit of a red flag. But I'm also dating to marry, not to sleep around.
>>81531035
>what are your standards for a girl?
Someone that takes care of themselves, or at least tries really hard to do so. Overweight is fine if she is working on losing it (like I have). I'm white, so I would prefer a white woman, but being attracted to someone isn't restricted to a single race. I'd hope she would share some of my interests so we had a meaningful way to spend time together, but I'd also hope she has ways of spending time with friends or by herself as well. Spending all day, every day together is not healthy in the long term. I'd also prefer if she wanted to be a stay-at-home mother, or at least working part-time while the kid(s) are in school. I make enough to support a family, no issue. As for age, I do want healthy children, so probably no one older than 32 at most. I'm 38.

>>81530654
>this hypothetical would never happen. men only want pretty girls.
Sometimes men need some rapemeat.

>>81530609
>but they never want to engage outside of yearnposting
They need something to blame; They don't want to confront reality so they hide from the truth because they would have to genuinely open up and and be vulnerable.

>>81531214
what good will being vulnerable bring you? it's pointless

>>81530612
I already know my boyfriend's preferences. That isn't an issue.

>>81531283
>I already know my boyfriend's preferences. That isn't an issue.
From the porn he watches, or is he not a virgin (maybe you don't believe in male virginity)?

>>81520827 (OP)
No time

>>81520827 (OP)
I am just not good looking enough for any man to fuck me. Looks are everything. I lost the game. It was over before it even began.

>>81531458
men have literally no standards. are you alive? that's it.

>>81531523
nta but men only have no standards for sex they have a lot for relationships

>>81531523
>men have literally no standards. are you alive? that's it.
Sometimes being alive isn't even a standard, KEK.

>>81531458
Chances are you'll still get fucked easily if you aren't morbidly obese.

>>81531523
>>81531610
>>81531627
I am so tired of these bluepills. You don't understand how lonely ugly women are in a society where everyone judges us based on our appearance only. Sexual attraction is based on looks. You can't have sex if you are ugly.

>>81531726
you say it like that idea doesn't also affect ugly men lol

>>81531726
>You can't have sex if you are ugly.
You only think this way because you're not attracted to ugly men (you're projecting).

>>81531768
How ironic when it's actually malecels who pretend ugliness doesn't destroy women's chances in dating. I for one know attractive privilege is universal.
>>81531785
Men do not notice my existence.

>>81531726
do YOU understand that the main issue is inside your head? that your mind is constantly worried about how the other person perceives you?
you can find thousands of women uglier than you who can get dick and/or love, they can do it because they don't worry about it
hell, if you aren't too fat or too old you're more than fuckable for 80% of men
at worst, start eating healthy and work out a bit, tomboys and muscle mommies are always in demand

>>81531726
You have to be downright disfigured to be too ugly to fuck.
Are you obese?

>>81531831
Try actively talking to/approaching men instead of expecting them to immediately flounder over you (and be flirtatious).

>>81531838
>do YOU understand that the main issue is inside your head? that your mind is constantly worried about how the other person perceives you?
It's not in my head, my genetics fucked me over. Even if I had a different mindset, this would not change the fact that I'm ugly.
>you can find thousands of women uglier than you who can get dick and/or love, they can do it because they don't worry about it.
No, men only settle for them and hate them for being ugly. They get cheated on all the time.
>hell, if you aren't too fat or too old you're more than fuckable for 80% of men
Weight and age are also importnat factors because men only want women with a perfect body and youthful beauty, but face is everything. It is what we base our first impression of people on. No one will even bother with other aspects if they think you have an ugly face.
>at worst, start eating healthy and work out a bit, tomboys and muscle mommies are always in demand
Trends are for conventionally attractive people.
>>81531849
I am not obese but I am that ugly. >>81531855
Men don't want to talk to ugly women so why would I put myself through this humiliation ritual that makes both sides uncomfortable?

>>81531891
>I am that ugly
>not a fat fuck
What makes you so ugly then?

>>81531891
>Men don't want to talk to ugly women so why would I put myself through this humiliation ritual that makes both sides uncomfortable?
>self fulfilling prophecy
see what I mean?

>>81531891
>It's not in my head, my genetics fucked me over. Even if I had a different mindset, this would not change the fact that I'm ugly.
ironically, your mind is so fucked that if you turned pretty overnight, your love life would remain a disaster, if not turn worse
>No, men only settle for them and hate them for being ugly. They get cheated on all the time.
not only is this not true, if it was then literally every middle aged man would be cheating
but would you want to date a man whose loyalty depends entirely on how good you look? is that how you see people? if your boyfriend got fat and ugly would you feel like it's time to cheat on him?
>face is everything. It is what we base our first impression of people on. No one will even bother with other aspects if they think you have an ugly face.
have you ever gotten past first impression with someone? anyone? there's this crazy thing that happens when you interact with people: you get to know them
and the more you get to understand them, your impression of them changes, and eventually solidifies
and yeah many people won't bother, but you only need 1 who would

>>81527088
No one wants your poop-covered dick

>>81531944
My facial features and body are ugly, the opposite of what is seen as attractive really.
>>81531957
>ironically, your mind is so fucked that if you turned pretty overnight, your love life would remain a disaster, if not turn worse
My mind is fucked because I accept reality for what it is? People will tolerate anything a Stacy does whatsoever, so even if you think I'm crazy, my love life would be just fine if I turned pretty overnight.
>but would you want to date a man whose loyalty depends entirely on how good you look? is that how you see people? if your boyfriend got fat and ugly would you feel like it's time to cheat on him?
We don't live in a world like your utopian hypotheticals where men don't care about looks. Nothing is going to change that men prefer attractive women. I have already come to terms with how this means I will be forever alone.
>have you ever gotten past first impression with someone? anyone? there's this crazy thing that happens when you interact with people: you get to know them
I am not looking for pity dick. It would stay limo throughout the whole thing, like every cell in his body is telling him to stay away from ugly women.

>>81532039
>My facial features and body are ugly, the opposite of what is seen as attractive really.
That doesn't mean dick, describe yourself.

I was with an ugly girl once in college. It was actually super hot in a shameful, perverted sort of way. It was nice feeling super wanted and desired by someone., but ultimately, I could not get past her dopey-looking recessed chin face.
If you're a derpy mouth-breather and get surgery, do the right thing and disclose that so some poor bastard isn't surprised with butt-ugly children, OK?

>>81532039
>my love life would be just fine if I turned pretty overnight
much like everyone with body dismorphia who end up getting hormones, steroids, surgery, body mods etc, they never feel good about themselves no matter how far it goes
it's not that you wouldn't attract more men if you were prettier, you're missing the point, the fact is that you would eventually find someone if you kept looking, but certain to be alone if you give up completely
and again, most important point by far, is that your mind is incapable of accepting the idea of a man finding you attractive, real or not, that's just something you're dead set on denying, and if you don't fix it, it will be your doom

you just dodged my other 2 questions, it's not about standards
"pity" dick is not acceptable but then you're convinced dick only comes if you're attractive?
and why would it be pity?? many married couples turn old, fat and ugly but still love each other, are you invalidating all of them?

>>81523467
that's just a Jewish women

>>81532100
Why? So you can be an asshole about my flaws?
>>81532191
>and again, most important point by far, is that your mind is incapable of accepting the idea of a man finding you attractive, real or not, that's just something you're dead set on denying, and if you don't fix it, it will be your doom
But it's the truth. I do not appreciate your attempts at giving me false hope. I've been through it all already.
>you just dodged my other 2 questions, it's not about standards
Because what I think is irrelevant.
>"pity" dick is not acceptable but then you're convinced dick only comes if you're attractive?
It does. Pity sex does not count because it is not true attraction.
>and why would it be pity?? many married couples turn old, fat and ugly but still love each other, are you invalidating all of them?
Well yeah. There is no way these men actually love those women.

>>81531410
From talking to each other. He is not a virgin, and idc if he watches porn as long as when we get married, he cuts down significantly since at that point, I should be the only person he lusts after, not those women in porn. He should masturbate at the memories we make in the bedroom, not a secondhand cuck.

>>81520827 (OP)
Why is it that only pretty girls work out? I want someone who shares an active lifestyle but only Stacies seem to be into that?

>>81532461
>Why? So you can be an asshole about my flaws?
So I can tell if it's that noggin of yours that's the entirety of the problem instead.
Sure you're not just BPD riddled?

>>81532461
>But it's the truth
see that's the thing, you don't know that
the only way to ascertain that is if you somehow try to get with every single man on the planet and get rejected by all
until then, you can't say for sure, you can be as doomer as you want but the reality is that it's just uncertain
all hope is false, that's the whole point of it, you never know if it comes true or not, it can happen tomorrow or it can never take place
the only use for hope is to break the paralysis state that you are into, to remove that mental weight that consumes so much brain capacity

>Well yeah. There is no way these men actually love those women.
i'm not claiming they all do, but most people stay together, why don't all of these men just leave and go date younger women then? the reality is they don't

is what i said so irrelevant? or do you just not want to know if it's true or not?
even if it is, it shouldn't be so hard to answer, especially if they don't matter anyway
i understand that many people, if not most, only value their partners because of how attractive they are, and first glance attractiveness always depends on your looks
but do you really think that who you are as a person is completely irrelevant? that people can't catch feelings due to that as well? and do you really think you'd be happy being "loved" by someone who only sees you as a fancy flesh fuck doll?

>>81532039
>every cell in his body is telling him to stay away from ugly women
the cells in his dick would have a different opinion, we can't exactly fake a boner

>>81520827 (OP)
I'm a prude idiot that believes in love and waiting

>>81531726
>You can't have sex if you are ugly.
You can have anal though.

>>81534802
>he doesn't know ugly buttholes exist

>>81534457
Fair. I'm just an anxious idiot.

>>81531726
this problem doesn't exist after he has a few beers and has been lonely for a while

>>81534457
Same here. How long have you been waiting?

>>81534457
Based kindred spirit.

>>81534457
>waiting
biggest mistake a woman can make because childless women become worthless when they turn 35

>>81520827 (OP)
I'm not attractive and don't know how to meet men. If I don't find a man to marry and reproduce with by 35 I might just kill myself.

>>81536477
sister of linus sebastian killed herself for that reason

>>81536477
A woman relentlessly demanded I'd knock her up if she reaches the age of 30 childless.

>>81536546
I wish I had men in my life I could even ask to do this.

>>81536725
And you'd be fine with getting creampied by some white dude and raising a child alone?

>>81536791
If I could afford it, yeah. I'd prefer to be married to the father, but if I had to chose between being a single mom or being a childless hag, I'd choose single mom.

>>81536807
Don't know if I'd trust most women alone with my minmaxxed gimmick build genes either because of narcissism or concern for my spawn.

>>81536871
I mean like I said, I'd prefer to marry the father and raise the child together. Being a single mom is only if I hit 35 and still haven't found someone and the best I can do is get pumped and dumped by a rando. If the father wants to be part of the child's life, I'll gladly marry him and raise the kid together.