>go on dating app
>match with looksmatch or below
>wahhh im so ugly
>wahh youre just gonna leave me like my bpdemon ex
>wahh i have been in 5 past relationships and theyve all been bpdemons
>wahh me victim
>im gonna complain to you about modern women on a dating app

>match with above average/above looksmatch
>wanna quickie?
>you dtf?
>threesome?
>ghosts after 3 minutes of conversation once they realize i want marriage

how am i supposed to date people in this day and age

>>81522312 (OP)
What do you expect from hookup apps? There's no such thing as dating apps.

>>81522312 (OP)

normal guys exist in the real world, you have to talk to them irl femanon

>>81522312 (OP)
>how am i supposed to date people in this day and age

>1. wanna quickie?
>2. Set up meeting.
>3. ...?
>4. Profit!

>>81522312 (OP)
Dating apps can be useful but its best to diversify and join groups where you can meet people.

Work on your physical appearance as well, make it a hobby that will increase the quality of men you can attract.

>>81522354
ngl the concept of femanon doesnt make sense to me, isnt the point of anon meaning youre anonymous? why put fem as a prefix if its anonymous to begin with?
>>81522337
what do you suggest i do? i dont socialize much irl and i dont go to gatherings or parties

>>81522386
anon that is not dating sorry

>>81522428

because you are a woman (an inferior being to us men) and because of that a prefix is needed to signal your status. Hope this helps!

>>81522428
I suggest you get off "dating" apps.

>>81522312 (OP)
>download hinge
>filter out the retards
>arrange a date
>???
>profit
This is how my gf landed such a cool and based 4chan user such as myself. Surely you can do the same (but not me, since I have a gf now)

>>81522312 (OP)
you should try to fix your insecure looksmatch by acting as his therapist, mother and lover.

>>81522458
okay but that still defeats the point of ANONymous?
>>81522489
maybe i will
>>81522499
its becoming hard to do that anon, a lot of people have ulterior motives and are really manipulative and mean.
>>81522544
no? theyre all ran through and im a virgin. i dont want a relationship like that plus we should build each other up and grow together, not some weird freudian bullcrap. ill pass.

>>81522575

anonymity is a privilege only for men

real advice though I know it sucks to go out and socialize but that's literally the only way. I'm a young guy with a wide social circle and 99% of my friends who are on apps are just trying to fuck or they're socially retarded. They will act in what ever way they need to in order to get you into bed. The only time this doesn't happen is when there's a factor that makes y'all see each other long term like as coworkers, or classmates, or your in the same club or whatever so he can fall for your personality too

>>81522312 (OP)
Stop using the dating apps then they are retarded

>>81522645
yeah exactly this get a fuvking job and more social opportunities will occur

I will date you

>original original original

>>81522575
>no? theyre all ran through and im a virgin. i dont want a relationship like that plus we should build each other up and grow together, not some weird freudian bullcrap. ill pass.
dyke

>>81522312 (OP)
They're all the same kind of person on different levels of hopium, it's a Russian roulette to be a man these days, with five bullets.

>>81522991
right back at u, fag

>>81522812
i have a job, anonymous

>>81522575
I dodged boning all BPD skanks by sheer paranoia and saved my purity, but how ugly, boring and ran through are you?

>>81522817
okay, can you tell me a little bit about yourself first?

>>81522312 (OP)
Why should I settle for my "looksmatch" when there are cute stacies out there? You all want a 6'5 prettyboy athlete anyway.
>>81522428
>isnt the point of anon meaning youre anonymous?
Yeah but you always mention you are female to get attention.

>>81523157
>how ugly
im like a 4 or a 5
>how boring
i play videogames and draw online dont socialize much so idk how to talk to people very well
>how ran through
im a virgin

>>81522812
>a job
Yeah right, if you work as a tradie or a postman, good luck finding the time to socialise.

>>81523165
i never mentioned it explicitly though, it was just implied by the sentence about receiving male attention

>>81523186
How old and how brown?

My dating app experience:

Swipe 1000 times
Get 50 matches ( Above avg looks )

25 of them are scammers
15 of them dont respond at all
10 of them respond

Out of 10, 5 are looking for a sugar daddy situationship, where I pay for everything and they give me pity sex.

Out of the remaining 5, They go on about wanting a 'genuine connection' and 'authenticity', I be myself, tell them about my hobbies and lifestyle ( I am a software developer who likes to work on crafts and old cars )

1 - Turns out to be super religious
2 - Turns out to friendzone me
3 - Turns out she wanted a sugar daddy anyway
4 - Doesnt respond, unmatches
5 - Doesnt respond, unmatches

So yeah I basically wasted several hours of my valuable time, and I'm expected to repeat this process every month, over and over again and somehow prevent myself from getting jaded or treating women like a number because male dating is purely a numbers game at this point.

All I want is for a genuine woman to love ME for ME, not because of my looks or my job or my status or my money, but turns out that window of opportunity ends in highschool/college.

Women treat men as a disposable commodity, I dont even hate women at this point I just understand the game we have to play to compete.

Pretty exhausting, depressing and overall just not fun at all. Dating SUCKS as a man.

At least I have a 6 figure investment portfolio and some cool project cars, apart from that im just another brick in the wall, passed by all women because im not in the top 5% of men.

>>81523214
>turns out to be super religious
sorry but whats wrong with that? i hold strong traditional christian values. why are you blaming women for your own problems?

>>81523276
In most cases you'd be right, but this one had a very religious family, and basically it meant no sex until marriage type of deal, and the parents pushed for marriage within a few months of 'dating', it just wasnt my scene - we seemed too fundamentally different but your point is valid to a degree.

>>81522312 (OP)
>go on dating app
you already fucked up there OP.

>>81523306
>cant wait until marriage
sorry youre a pig who cant control himself lol. its sad.

>>81523324
nta but nah, getting married in general is an idea religious people play around with too damn much. getting married to someone I met a couple months ago wouldn't even be conceivable in my brain.

>>81523306
>can't wait until marriage
Pussy.
It should be mandatory, pretty sure men are fucking themselves up mentally by banging deceitful roasties and perverts at even higher rates than women.

>>81523324
honestly thats fair, id like a virgin woman and i am a virgin man but the idea of 'no sex at all until marriage' just trips some wires in my head, seems like a serious commitment

what if we are incompatible sexually? there's got to be a middle ground there between "total 0 sex until marriage" and "fucking around with 100 different partners before settling down"

>>81522312 (OP)
>twitter post
sage and reported

>>81523386
>incompatible sexually
The hell does that mean?

>>81523386
if we already like each other how would we be sexually incompatible?

>>81523458
Well I didnt think this would be unusual?

Sexual compatibility can mean:
A) We find each other attractive physically
B) Our sex drives and expectations match up

>>81523386
>what if we are incompatible sexually
If you're both virgins I don't see how that happens. Do you not want to learn what she likes sexually? Do you not want her to learn what you like sexually? You rather have some woman who was taught by another man how to love so you're sexually compatible?

>>81523584
>We find each other attractive physically
>Our sex drives and expectations match up
Why do you need to have sex to figure this out? You don't need to have sex to know any of that.

>>81523458
>>81523565
>>81523599

Look im not hard pressed about the whole "sexual compatibility" thing, im a Virgin and I dont have crazy high expectations or demands of sex. Marriage before sex is a serious proposition and puts me in a significant risk financially as it does the woman physically. I know that dating as a concept barely existed in our history, and were all learning as we go.

That being said, I'm strongly hesitant to get into marriage with someone, if we never got intimate before. I'm not trying to build a body count here, but id like to know if we align sexually if we've been dating a few weeks/months. Does that make me a man-slut? Depends on who you ask I suppose.

Everyone's opinion and expectation is valid, but for me personally - I would not get into marriage without at least getting intimate at least a little bit. I do want to stress again that I think your points are valid and I hope you find your pure partner, its just not something im comfortable with personally and thats okay.

>>81523584
Seeing each other naked isn't banging, if you want to go full pegi 3 go to the beach with her.
>sex drive
Ask for a handjob if she has no endurance.
>>81523660
>financial risk
Premarital contracts my dude.

>>81522428
>what do you suggest i do?
Cope. A lot of people are going to be single.

>>81523660
>if we never got intimate before
There are other ways to be intimate besides putting your penis inside of one of her holes.
>id like to know if we align sexually if we've been dating a few weeks/month
You can learn that without inserting your phallus into one of her orifices.
>I do want to stress again that I think your points are valid and I hope you find your pure partner, its just not something im comfortable with personally and thats okay.
You talk like a r.dditor, think like one, too.

>>81523386
>seems like a serious commitment
Do you not realize that dating/relationships/marriage IS a serious commitment?

>>81524042
Marriage is only seen as a serious commitment because there are consequences to a failed marriage.

>>81522312 (OP)
>never gotten a match in my whole life besides one that was presumably a bot
>need to pay to match but we're both putting effort in, works out in the very beginning
>meet up irl only a couple days later, we talk for an hour plus
>although I showed signs of spaghetti a few times I recovered immediately and we kept talking about things just fine
>send a few messages after saying I'm glad it happened and mention what to discuss next
>haven't heard from them since
This is the reality for me as a guy. Oh and by the way it wasn't even a flirting situation, I just want a real life friend and they appeared to feel the same.
>You did X wrong though, I know you did
Whatever. The point is at least someone like you has options and the freedom of choice, even if most of them suck. I have to put all my eggs in one basket every single time because I have nothing else and it always results in failure. I've only been able to adapt by becoming more and more numb and accepting of rejection.

>>81523847

I'll be genuine since your response made me think

Finding a religious virgin woman who wants to wait until marriage before sex sounds absolutely ideal, in a perfect world it would be the norm. I knew deep down that it was selfish and primal of me to shy away from that woman. I didn't meant to suggest that intimacy relies solely on sex to exist, however to me its a big part of intimacy - and I couldn't picture getting married to someone and devoting myself to them for life without experiencing that part of each other first.

There are good hearted men who seek genuine and authentic relationships with women, and that may involve sex & intimacy too. However women have their guard up because of bad past experiences and heightened expectations. It seems that neither side is happy until the other makes a concession ( Either the man spending his resources on a woman, or a woman securing her resources via a marriage contract )

>>81522312 (OP)
What are you looking for, other than marriage? Are you ok with your husband having a concubine when you hit your late 20s?

>>81523584
Why don't you just talk about what sex you like retard?

>>81522312 (OP)
95% of people are undatable
>UNDATABLE!

>>81522312 (OP)
>>wahh i have been in 5 past relationships and theyve all been bpdemons
then just take someone who has 0 past relationships?
also to be fair, bpDemons are a fucking plague nowadays, I have no idea why but they seem to get more and more every day.
Someone must have opened a portal to hell or some shit.

>>81523660
>but id like to know if we align sexually
KHHV guy here.
can someone explain this shit to me?
Like, how the fuck could you not allign sexually? Just talk about what you each like and figure it out together?
If we're both virgins yeah, the first few times are probably gonna suck, so what? We're in it for the long haul and over the years and years that we're gonna be together we're hopefully gonna find an arrangement that satisfies both parties.
If I marry someone I want that person to be my closest confidant and best friend and we have together decided that we want to live our life together as soulmates, I don't give a fuck if the sex is bad because I didn't marry her for the sex.
If we want different things after figuring out what we like, then we just communicate our desires, make compromises, talk about boundaries, and take turns deciding etc.

>>81522312 (OP)
>>go on dating app
>>match with looksmatch or below
>>wahhh im so ugly
>>wahh youre just gonna leave me like my bpdemon ex
>>wahh i have been in 5 past relationships and theyve all been bpdemons
>>wahh me victim
>>im gonna complain to you about modern women on a dating app
>>match with above average/above looksmatch

I don't bother getting a girlfriend because I know my place, but if I were to actually try to get one I think I wouldn't bring attention to my problems. I wonder why these men even bother matching with people they know they aren't going to get into a relationship with. I feel like there's more dignity staying alone.

>>81526103
>opened a portal to hell
Amen, there's so many weird manipulative freaks in general it's insane, being a sperg in the modern world is pure torture.

>>81526272
>Like, how the fuck could you not allign sexually? Just talk about what you each like and figure it out together?
NTA, but heavily mismatched sex drives is a recipe for resentment down the line even considering compromises.
I'm a virgin who would also want another virgin, but I also have a few fetishes and fantasies I would like to eventually enact with my future husband. I can't imagine dating someone for multiple years, putting myself in an government binding pact I have to go to court to get out of, only to find out that he's strictly missionary only.
Obviously sexual compatibility isn't the most important thing. But if it's missing in a marriage, it's really noticeable.

>>81526499
Hypothetical
>be me
>my GF really loves foot massages, long ones 20+ minutes, multiple times per week
>I'm not a footfag and it does nothing for me
>if anything its kinda bothersome because my hands get stiff and tired, I'm not into it, and its at best kinda boring and I'd much rather spend the time just cuddleing or play vidya or do anything else I enjoy more really
>BUT
>I love my GF
>I want to make my GF happy
>And I know how much she likes her foot massages
>so I still do them because I care for her
>yes sometimes when I've had a stressful day or I'm tired or my hands hurt I'll say not today, thats okay and I'm sure she'll understand
>But Imagine the following, If I were to refuse to give her foot massages for weeks, months, and everytime she asks I give another excuse "my hands hurt" "I'm tired" "I have a headache"
>I know how much she likes her foot massages, and yet I deny her
>I know that my refusal hurts her feelings and yet I deny her
>the only reasonable explaination I could deny her repeatedly over a long period of time would be because I don't care about her anymore
>It is a direct red glowing neon sign announcing that I don't love her, that I wouldn't sacrifice even a bit of my own personal comfort despite knowing how happy it'd make her

IDK, as long as it isn't cuckoldry or some shit that crosses my personal bondaries I'd do a whole lot, and I'd do it gladly and willingly as long as I love her, I wouldn't enjoy the foot massages, but I'd certainly learn to enjoy her enjoyment of the foot massages and look foreward to them.
How bad can your fetishes be that I wouldn't willingly compromise without resentment if I hypothetically loved you?

>>81526499
How bad could your fetishes possibly be?
>inb4 masochism and humiliation

>>81526499
>but I also have a few fetishes and fantasies
Why would you wait until after marriage to discuss these things? I have having a very difficult time understanding why anons ITT cannot simply consider talking to their hypothetical romantic partner about sex before tying the knot.

>>81522312 (OP)
>>wahhh im so ugly
>>wahh youre just gonna leave me like my bpdemon ex
>>wahh i have been in 5 past relationships and theyve all been bpdemons
>>wahh me victim
Do people really do this in 1v1? I do only that here wtf and they still get more matches than me lmao

>>81523214
Genuine connection and authenticity girls are just women who have dated emotionally unavailable men.
Just say something about wanting someone who isn't afraid to be vulnerable, because they will more readily identify with their side/experience of that kind of relationship than they will the side/experience of a man who isn't like that.

>>81522312 (OP)
YOU JUST NEED TO ACTUALLY FIND SOMEONE WILLING TO DATE TO MARRY.

UNFORTUNATELY THAT IS RARE TO FIND AND YOU WOULD NOT DATE AN ULTIMATE BADASS LIKE YUORS TRULY SO YEAH YOU'RE SHIT OUT OF LUCK SORRY.

>>81523214
>software developer
Frankly, you get what you deserve. Cope with money all you want, nothing turns a cunt into the sahara desert faster than doing this fag shit with your life

>>81526565
>>81526635
On the tamer end, I'd want to tie a guy up and grope or jerk him off. Although to get more extreme, I really wanna put somebody in a vacbed or a gimp suit and fuck him and do the somewhat usual femdom BDSM things. I'd reckon all the "pls dommy mommy step on me" fags are just LARPing for the bit online and men who aren't going to troon out within 3 years wouldn't want to be emasculated.

Although chastity, CBT, sissy, or cuck shit doesn't do anything for me. To note I'd also go along with whatever shit he likes unless it's anything piss or shit related.

>>81526716
True, I wonder how can one act like this to a stranger for that stranger to have an anectodal experience like that.
A lot of zoomers are fucked up so I guess it makes sense.

>>81527044
WHAT ABOUT COMPROMISING AND JUST HAVING HIM WEAR NOTHING BUT A LORD HUMUNGUS MASK FROM MAD MAX 2

>>81527044
That's very nice, how did you get a fetish so tasteful?

>>81527044
>These are the girls calling you a depraved incel coomer

>>81527048
He probably opened like that 4 times in a row and the BPD harpies started rubbing their hands.

>>81527105
IF YOU REALLY WANNA FEEL BETTER GO ONTO JANITOR.AI AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR TRENDING ONES. ABUSE AND KEK FETISHES ARE RAMPANT WITH WOMEN SO DON'T WORRY.

>>81527105
That's nothing, loads of chicks are into being choked and called sluts, fuckin nauseating.

>>81527105
bold of you to assume thats a woman and not just an evil tranny larping on my thread

>>81527365
Are you vanilla then

>>81526499
>>81527044
I posted on this godforsaken board for the first time in a while just to say you're awesome and I wish there were more people like you in the world for us virgins to find; maybe you could give us a way to contact you?

>>81527386
i enjoy being gently dommed, the choking and slapping and spanking is gross to me

>>81527403
this is a transgender agp male, and i have reasons to believe you are him but just samefagging. get a life?

>>81527407
"Dommed" gives bdsm vibes, but without the stuff you mentioned that's just the normal straight dynamic

>>81527105
For one, I will never talk shit about my fellow gooners and fuck the hypocritical bitches who do. You do you if you wanna spank it to anime boobs or some shit. It's one of the few things I will defend men on.

>>81527090
A mixture of misandry and stepping into the wrong places on the internet during my formative teenage years.

>>81527469
Don't know about gimp suits but getting handcuffed and getting a merciless full speed double handjob sounds fun.

>>81527420
lol now I remember why I never post on here
take your meds
no I'm not a samefag, I just entered to comment when I saw something of interest
if you don't like then don't reply?
Back to hockey now

You honestly don't know any guys IRL that you could date? You could always go somewhere by yourself and look approachable.

>>81523306


That's the disconnect. "Dating" for years on end was never supposed to be a thing. You date someone to decide to get married. They pushed marriage because they didn't want you two having sex.

Anon sorry to say but it's either those types or the ran through bpd sluts.

>>81523660
You're so dishonest lol, it's clear you only care about your wallet and there you go harping about liking me for me as if you were slick. Pathetic.