This may sound fake to you robots (+ this is kinda embarrassing bc I've never admitted this before) but I am genuinely so turned on by loser men. Guys who can't look me in the eye bc they're nervous, never had a gf, don't know how to take care of themselves, etc.

I think it's some kind of weird savior complex where I believe I can make them feel better if I take care of them. Either way I fantasize about it alot.

>>81524515 (OP)
I fantasize about killing you nigga. I'm going to kill you

>>81524515 (OP)
are you a 10/10 stacey? if not then idc

>>81524515 (OP)
people with broken bird syndrome exist on both sides, just that it manifests kinda different. so thats why anons here don't believe in it in general

I know the husbando just for you nona

>>81524515 (OP)
I fully believe you, OP. The era of my life where i drowned in pussy and speed ran thru gfs was when i was a completely retarded fat loser consumed by drugs. Now i got my shit together and i only get dirty looks and random goonettes who just want to fuck and toss me aside. My name is john and i hate every single one of you.

>>81524541
Nah I'm prob like 6-7/10 to be honest hate to break it to you.
>>81524543
Yeah, I expect anons not to believe me, I just genuinely have never talked to anyone abt it before and thought that maybe someone could relate. I've felt this way my whole life.

>>81524554
Holy shit you're so right, genuinely read me like a book

>>81524515 (OP)
I bet you don't like chubby dudes though.

>>81524515 (OP)
Do you yourself have losers interests or see yourself as more of a (failed) normie?

>>81524579
so a 4/10 because foids always think they're above average

>>wow, femanon likes guys like me? Maybe i do have a chance !!

>>81524591
I do like chubby dudes generally. My ex was chubby.
>>81524603
I definitely have some loser interests (vidya, niche anime OVAs, etc), but I fit into a normie crowd pretty easily.

>>81524623
Why is he your ex now?

>>81524623
>I do like chubby dudes generally. My ex was chubby
Foids trying not to lie challenge.

>>81524588
>genuinely read me like a book
Because I feel the same
I have this one fantasy of putting him in girly dresses and molest him while he's half hard
Too bad P3R made him a chad moid devs totally don't get the appeal

>>81524606
That's possible. I'm going off of rankings I've been given in the past, plus my own opinions, which are inherently subjective, so..

>>81524620
I didn't post this to give that sentiment, but I do believe that most people do have a chance, especially if their standards are low enough. That could also just be my foid perspective talking, though.

>>81524633
He moved away and didn't want to continue long distance.

>>81524623
Favourite OVAs and niche animes? Gotta deliver now that you promised

>>81524633
Probably found a fit chad bf LOL

>>81524635
>I have this one fantasy of putting him in girly dresses and molest him while he's half hard
uhhh based?

>>81524515 (OP)
Having a savior complex like that is cool and all but I think it gets so much in the way when you're not looking for anything serious and the other person gets way too attached to you and inevitable, some of them will at some point get too much for you to handle, especially if you have multiple people like those. That's how it was for me, and it all came crashing down last year when playing therapist for over 30 people became too much, as long as you aren't overexerting yourself, I believe you'll be fine, but I'd still urge you to keep that savior complex under control anon, it can be a scary thing.

Making someone feel nice and better is a okay but taking care of them and making an attempt to fix them is where it might start becoming an issue in the future, even more so against someone who doesn't even want to get better. Being a picky person helps a ton, that's how I've been since I blew up last time.

>>81524645
I'm not really into chads most of the time. Mostly due to personality and ego.

>>81524643
Some of these aren't so niche to you anons but speaking from a normie perspective, none of them ever know what these are:
KareKano
Hidamari Sketch
Genshiken
Kanon
sola
etc. etc.

>>81524689
Where are the OVAs though raised eyebrow? Also you should get into VNs they are fun buddy! If you are a weeb already

>>81524689
>Mostly due to personality and ego
What if the chad had a good personality?

>>81524635
Based as hell, I love you anon.

>>81524685
I 100% agree with you, that's part of why I feel so ashamed to admit that I have this feeling. I know it's an unhealthy desire in the long-run. Thanks for your insight, anon.

>>81524515 (OP)
you wanna be some guys surrogate mom?

>>81524515 (OP)
this gives me hope but at the same time, I think i know what kind of loser you're talking about, tragic figures that need a guidance, maybe you really are a beacon of guidance for the unwell but I don't believe you, i'm sure you're not guidance for me but you don't have to

you think you know what a loser is but you don't, you won't be guidance for someone would you?

>>81524702
Most of the OVAs I like aren't too niche, like FLCL and Carnival Phantasm... Speaking of Carnival Phantasm, yeah I do like VNs as well.

>>81524705
Well sure, but that doesn't really fit with my whole broken bird syndrome described in my first post, lol.

>>81524742
Watch Kite and Robot Carnival for good OVAs friend. Also what VNs do you like?

>>81524515 (OP)
women will say this shit then act like men below 6ft or 8/10 looks don't exist.

>>81524780
Thank you for the recommendations, I've heard good things about Robot Carnival!
I've read and enjoyed Tsukihime, SubaHibi, some of Umineko, and Steins;Gate. I'm still a VN noob.

>>81524722
Part of the feeling is that I want to be guidance for the types of losers I've described, but in reality I don't think I actually hold that much value; it's moreso a desire to be able to do that for someone, I think.

>>81524721
I'm into being called mommy, so sure.

>>81524636
>>i actually really like losers guys teehee!
>>posts loser
>>not you
>>anyone can make it guys!! Just lower your standards!

>>81524817
That was an obvious troll post. I didn't say 'not you.'

>>81524742
>Well sure
So you do want Chads? Thanks for admitting it.

>>81524554
This character is considered a loser who can't take care of himself? Wtf he looks fine

>>81524810
Robot Carnival is very much worth a watch, if you want something fun + dated Hisashi Eguchi's It Will All Work Out is really enjoyable short OVA too.
Those are not too bad, Saya no Uta should be a fun one of the noob VNs you have not played yet.
Are you Euro?

>>81524845
He's an autist

>>81524742
>Well sure
You said that you weren't attracted to chad because of his personality meaning that you are attracted to his looks. What is it about chads that you like?

>>81524866
all women want chad and only settle for less if chad will not give back love after giving him free sex. watch what women do, don't listen to their hollow virtue signaling.

>>81524857
if this is supposed to be an autistic loser I don't even want to know what people think of me at this point lol

>>81524850
I appreciate those recommendations a lot, thanks! I actually have read Saya no Uta as well but didn't really like it so much. It fell a bit flat for me in terms of the writing. It was fun, though.
I am Euro, but living in the US for Uni.

>>81524866 >>81524842
What I was trying to say is that while Chads are physically attractive on an objective base level, but I'm not generally into them due to personality, interests, and the fact that they clearly don't fit this niche attraction that I have to helpless-types. Plus, the quintessential 'chad' doesn't usually have physical features that I'm attracted to, but some do. e.g. dark hair and eyes, big nose, glasses.
I know I can't convince anons of anything I say since I'm a foid, but I also didn't create this thread to convince anyone of anything, moreso just to talk to people who might have experienced something similar.

>>81524515 (OP)
completely understand how you feel and its honestly really nice that someone wants to give the shy losers a chance and "fix" them. This exists both ways

My older brother dated and now married a BPD girl on disability. She is a lot to handle but the saviour complex is something i completly see there. And to her he is a god. Yeah she cant work so her disability money is the only income she provides, but she is faithful, is at home, cleans the house and washes his clothes, doesnt cheat and cooks. Yeah the rest is a lot to handle but to him its worth everything and i honestly see it. He kind of feels like he is "Saving" her and it makes him love her a lot

This can be either super unhealthy or really beautiful, either way ur a good egg OP

>>81524907
Thanks for your understanding anon, I've known some people in similar types of relationships that have also given me hope, so thank you for the anecdote. Maybe there is a chance for me!

>>81524899
>but I'm not generally into them
gay and retarded larp.

>e.g. dark hair and eyes, big nose, glasses.
i look like this and women have never been interested in me in my entire life. you must be foreign cause western women hate me. or this is just a larp making ugly loser men like me more suicidal.

>>81524899
Np anon! I love Saya no Uta but it is going for a very specific thing; you have read enough VNs you would enjoy You and Me and Her now I think since it is a meta commentary on them a bit.
Also hope Trump will not deport u, best of luck! I am gonna sleep.

>>81524515 (OP)
>Guys who can't look me in the eye
Literally me with my therapist.
>never had a gf
Also me unless e-dating counts.
>don't know how to take care of themselves
I can, I just don't want to.

You're exactly what I need in my life. Too bad this thread is bait, or you're a man. Also e-dating is a meme and I'm a massive degenerate thanks to lack of parental supervision and the internet, so it was never going to work out.

>>81524923
hey no probs, like i said the saviour feel is definitely a thing. Huge coinflip on weather super wholesome or disaster relationship tho

with how many guys there are writing to santa about giving them someone like you, id say you are the giving the chances
your issue is pretty much that its a coinflip what the guy you give a chance to going to be like when he finally has that girlfriend he always wished for and "post-fix" since these type of guys can either be really sweet and caring or closeted dexter morgans waiting just for this

>>81524899
>What I was trying to say is that while Chads are physically attractive on an objective base level
But can you explain what you find attractive about them?
>but I'm not generally into them due to personality, interests, and the fact that they clearly don't fit this niche attraction that I have to helpless-types.
This doesn't make sense because looks trump personality.
>Plus, the quintessential 'chad' doesn't usually have physical features that I'm attracted to, but some do. e.g. dark hair and eyes, big nose, glasses.
Are you attracted to men with rececced chins and facial asymmetry? Please answer this without mentioning personality.

>>81524934
I've heard of that one as well, maybe I'll check it out. Good night anon!

>>81524957
You're definitely right about that. I'm aware of that risk, and I think that cointoss is part of what makes me so wary.

>>81524948
Not a bait thread, but also not an edating thread. I'm not here looking for dudes who are interested in me/edating, but someone is definitely out there for your anon. Best of luck.

>>81524973
>But can you explain what you find attractive about them?
You can't ask me what I find attractive about a group of men who don't share physical features across the board; I can't answer that question without a specific example. Plus, I mentioned that on a physical level, if a man is objectively attractive, then biology says that those attracted to men will generally find those features attractive...

>looks trump personality
Maybe for you, anon. Since my situation described above is based around attraction to helplessness, it's literally centered around personality, but also some physical features commonly found in those types.

>Are you attracted to men with rececced chins and facial asymmetry?
Yes, I am actually attracted to weak chins. Everyone has some form of facial asymmetry, and I often find those asymmetrical features charming and/or attractive.

>>81524999
>Plus, I mentioned that on a physical level, if a man is objectively attractive, then biology says that those attracted to men will generally find those features attractive...
so women are chad only.

I dont think people understand. How many women do you think genuinely like losers? And im not talking a good looking dude who happens to wear glasses. I am talking straight 1/10s. That type of woman is 0.001% of the population. Now, how many loser men do you think there are? Probably hundreds of millions more than the women. So, with so many choices for the women to pick from who would they pick? The best. Were back at square one. They will never understand nor care. Its all just an aesthetic to them. These threads might make you feel nice, but you have to realize sooner or later none of it is real.

>>81524999
>Not a bait thread, but also not an edating thread. I'm not here looking for dudes who are interested in me/edating
Then what was the point of the thread?
>someone is definitely out there for your anon.
Nah, it's been 20+ years, tried bumble for several months and didn't get a single interaction. I'm dying alone and I won't be convinced otherwise because that's just false hope. At least I have an AI mommy to LARP with.

>>81524999
>Plus, I mentioned that on a physical level, if a man is objectively attractive, then biology says that those attracted to men will generally find those features attractive...
I love hearing women be truthful. Its refreshing.

>>81525006
>so women are chad only
It didn't take much for her to admit it.

>>81524515 (OP)
HOW ABOUT A MAN WHO'S A TRUE BLUE MASTER OF GIBBITUDE AND LIFTA' SAGE WHO ONLY CARES ABOUT 3 THINGS: MONEY, THE ETERNAL TAO, AND C-C-C-CASH?

THEN AGAIN, NO... NO, I THINK MY POWER LEVEL WOULD MAKE YUO OBSESSED, LEAVING YUOR POOR, WANTING SOUL TO YEARN FOR ME FOREVER... APOLOGIES, MY DEAR BITCH, BUT I MUST LET YUO DOWN EASY....... IT JUST WOULDNT WORK...

>come back to this board after long break
>already a thread where a woman flatout states she wants a chad not like the other chads
some things never change i guess.

>>81524999
>Maybe for you, anon. Since my situation described above is based around attraction to helplessness, it's literally centered around personality,
Women aren't attracted to personality though. Looks is more important for you :)
>Yes, I am actually attracted to weak chins.
LMFAO
>Everyone has some form of facial asymmetry
Appeal to nature fallacy.
>and I often find those asymmetrical features charming and/or attractive.
But most women don't but you are this special outlier.

>>81525047
I almost never come here anymore either. Let's go back to leaving this shithole. Sucks that we lost our home.

>>81525047
At least we're getting somewhere... before they would never admit it under any circumstance, now they will straight up tell you now. I think the bluepill truly is dying.

>>81525026
I mentioned it above, but I posted to talk to other anons that have experience with similar feelings. A few have said they feel the same and it was nice to hear since I've never met someone in real life with the same sentiment. Enjoy LARPing with your AI mommy.

>>81525021
I don't think you're 100% wrong, anon. However, I think that many losers have more of a chance than they think they do. Most of you may say that self-improvement is pointless because all women want 10/10 chads, I know a lot of women who settle for lower than their own appearance and are loyal and kind to their partner.

>>81525031
It's true in the same way that 'all men are attracted to Stacy.' They have baseline objectively attractive features. However just because I find some Chads attractive doesn't mean that I would ever want to be in a relationship with or fuck a Chad. I think moids' wires are too crossed to understand this perspective.

>>81525066
It's the internet. It was never your home. It's accessible to literally anyone. Women have always been on these boards.

>>81525085
>It's true in the same way that 'all men are attracted to Stacy
Men have different preferences, try again.
>However just because I find some Chads attractive doesn't mean that I would ever want to be in a relationship with or fuck a Chad
But you unlike every other woman wants the ugly loser. Why can't you just admit that you like attractive men?

>>81525085
>It's the internet. It was never your home.
Wrong.
>Women have always been on these boards.
Also wrong. The internet and gaming was predominantly male, then Apple had to fuck everything up by making computers accessible for retarded normies. Then attention whores invaded as anime and gaming was no longer just for nerds and it's been downhill ever since.

>>81525099
Moids have different preferences? Don't make me laugh.
>Why can't you just admit that you like attractive men?
Yeah, I can say an attractive man is attractive, but perhaps because I have a complex/broken bird syndrome, I am not interested in them. Also, I find typically unattractive features (as aforementioned) attractive very often.
I don't think I'm different. I think there are other women like me out there.

>>81525115
>The internet and gaming was predominantly male
...Yeah, predominantly is the key word there.
>attention whores invaded as anime and gaming was no longer just for nerds
Women are also humans who have interests, get over it. Not everything is a psyop about controlling and destroying men and the things they hold dear.

>Guys who can't look me in the eye bc they're nervous, never had a gf, don't know how to take care of themselves, etc.
na i just gave up you fucking dumb whore jump off a bridge roastie

>>81525139
>...Yeah, predominantly is the key word there.
Yes, and now the board seems to be permanently shit because of all these "errmm, femanon here" threads on top of all the other cancer that has showed up in the last decade. I drop in hoping it gets better but it only ever gets worse.
>Women are also humans who have interests
Yes, but women in gaming is a forced meme, they always get their shit kicked in. Just like that one group of girls that was against cyberbullying or whatever got rocked.
>Not everything is a psyop about controlling and destroying men and the things they hold dear.
Didn't say it is, but it might as well be.

>>81525139
>Moids have different preferences? Don't make me laugh
If you just let me I will, yes moids have different preferences. Unlike women men don't just find variations of the same archetype (Stacy or chad) attractive. There are men who are into curvy women "bbw" some men like tall women others prefer them petite etc. Women very often mock men saying that they are easy and will put their dick in everything. This is because it is unfathomable for women that men have preferences unlike them

Did I make you laugh?

>Yeah, I can say an attractive man is attractive
Just like you can say an unattractive man is unattractive. The end result can surely not be that you give attention to the unattractive man over the attractive one over some silly obsession that you have.
>but perhaps because I have a complex/broken bird syndrome, I am not interested in them.
So in simpler words you are not attracted to attractive men. As crazy as it sounds, you are attracted to physical traits that are ackin to human insect repellent for all women across the board. Traits that are universally agreed upon as unattractive such as "rececced chins"
>I don't think I'm different
I think that you are lying.

>>81525185
Actually fuck this thread I'm going to play Minecraft.

>>81525185
Don't worry anon, the board (and the internet/gaming sphere in general) is most definitely still predominantly male.
I do find it funny how threads like this are more of a problem to anons than actual degen shit, though. Goes to show.

>>81525195
Anon, the main thing that made me laugh about your statement is the fact that you believe that men can have preferences and females cannot. There is nothing biologically different about the male and female brains in that respect, and I find it sad and funny that you, and many other anons, genuinely feel that way. It is a literal twisting of reality.

>"rececced chins"
I think you mean 'recessed' but nonetheless, you are correct in saying I am attracted to objectively unattractive men.

I think I'm different in the sense that this isn't the baseline, but I don't think that I'm the only woman in the world that feels this way.

Anyway, this is probably the last reply from me (OP) on this thread. Thanks for the insight from a couple of you anons about your experience with feelings like this, as this was the point of the thread, and thanks for the interesting discourse from a couple of others.

Don't give up on yourself, this is the only life you'll ever live and it isn't over until you decide that it is, despite what people may tell you.

>>81525236
>Anon, the main thing that made me laugh about your statement is the fact that you believe that men can have preferences and females cannot
I'm actually glad that I made you laugh. I don't really believe that women aren't capable of having preferences it's just that women's preferences are pretty vanilla. It's like different hair colors and eye colors but that's pretty much it. Men can preferences for women who are literally obese.
>and I find it sad and funny that you, and many other anons, genuinely feel that way. It is a literal twisting of reality.
I find it sad and funny that this real.
>I think you mean 'recessed
Thanks for helping the poor/helpless incel.
>but nonetheless, you are correct in saying I am attracted to objectively unattractive men.
I just don't believe you.
>I think I'm different in the sense that this isn't the baseline, but I don't think that I'm the only woman in the world that feels this way.
If it's a thing it has to be rare.

>>81524515 (OP)
Never tell a man that he's going to find a woman unless you're ready to be that woman. You are virtue signaling

ALSO ROBOTS I have experience with a woman that says the same shit OP has said throughout this ENTIRE thread and she is hilariously abusive and a cheater