seems most moids dont believe a woman can be truly "incel" which i guess id have to agree with. is it not different? an incel cant get sex, a femcel love. ive never even kissed a boy even though ive had the chance. i cant even do that without loving someone. i have no friends IRL and spend all day inside looking at retarded shit thinking my esoteric interests makes up for my inability to socialise. i dont wont to kiss or fuck chad... i actually like guys who are weird and a little bit on the bigger side. havent posted on here since i was 14 or 13. makes me sad thinking that im still crawling back. years go by and im still the same old loser on here reading about people saying this suffering means nothing cause i can just fuck some nasty moid. true, but ive never wanted that. what now?

>what now?
Nothing. It doesn't make a difference to you if people believe women can understand what loneliness is like for men, and it's not going to make a difference if men line up in your thread trying to pick up a lonely girl.

Also -cel is short for celibate which doesn't cover a romantic connection, only a sexual one. You're problem isn't that you're a -cel of any kind, because you could just fuck a nasty moid. I don't mean to dismiss your problem, but the whole source of the contention you're bringing up is that lonely women on the internet are just using the wrong flippin' word.

Obligatory request to live in my house and drain my balls.

>>81526835 (OP)
don't listen to them, anon. they're just bitter and resentful. cynics exist everywhere. your struggles are valid and i'm sorry.

i do suggest getting off this site though it really warps your perception of reality, i don't have much advice other than that...

>>81526835 (OP)
You could get love, it just won't be from a man you're capable of being attracted to, aka an average man who is objectively your looksmatch.

dont care didnt ask get the fuck out of here you fucking whore you date chad only too im tired of listening to women you can go all fucking die

>>81526835 (OP)
What is your current location, OP?
How about you find a robot to date, you meet up in public a couple of times, see if any mutual interest begins to form, and take it from there.

>>81526887
not doing the last thing but i do get what youre saying. i dont want to be "picked up." i guess i just wanted somewhere to express my frustration.

>>81526986
nonnie, im not as vain as you think i am. most of my crushes are strange or unconventional looking men. most of my attraction stems from his personality, really. but physically, i like men who are a little bit on the bigger side... not obese, but chubby.

>>81526995
im european. maybe its foolish to post exact location. i like specifically balkans but im not from there. my dream would be to find a nice american moid i actually love and could create a life with there....

>>81527018
Well you know what they say. Women complain just to have their complaints heard, and men hear complaints and think it means there's something they have to fix. The guys who will line up to pick you up are just trying to fix your problem.

Actually why am I giving you a (You) after you said you wouldn't drain my balls?

>>81526915
its true! i dont have much to do though im afraid when im too tired from my hobbies and just want something mindless to do.

>>81527032
>>81527056
If I had a discord I'd shoot my shot and see where it goes.
Good luck to you, OP, I hope you end up finding love.

>>81526835 (OP)
what are you like? how would you describe yourself

>>81527057
well, yes. i do get it, lol. anyone on here is lonely to an inhuman degree. it would only make sense to pick myself up a moid haha. a part of my problem is im bad with any kind of relationship....i like that i can have "human connection" on here, no strings attatched.

>>81526835 (OP)


Honestly sex and love is reducing it but it's more nuanced than that. Even "loser" women get multiple text messages from multiple men or friends throughout the day. Actual incel men go DAYS without getting text messages from anyone outside of work related shit if they have a job.

>>81526835 (OP)
Shut up cumskin bitch

>>81527126
personality wise? im strange. no real way to sugar coat it. i struggle with connection and convention and am shy and uncomfortable to be around to most. if you mean hobbies... i like to read... science fiction, old russian novels, psychological studies, trangressive underground stuff.. i like to draw... i love nature more than anything else and i love taxidermy. i like history and such.

>>81526835 (OP)
>an incel cant get sex, a femcel love. ive never even kissed a boy even though ive had the chance. i cant even do that without loving someone.
are you stupid? you can literally go kiss someone right now as a woman
"b-but it has no feeling"
so does an incel fucking a hooker.
nobody ever disagreed that some women have a hard time finding LOVE
incels can't find love either
it goes physical intimacy as an easier thing to obtain then love is the harder thing to obtain.
you're as fucking stupid as the motherfucking "we're not rich but we're well off" motherfucking piece of shits complaining that they can only afford a 1 floor home nowadays meanwhile im stuck living at home into my 40s.
fuck you.

>>81527136
nonnie, i dont work. my only friends are online and i only have one real fried from that. and we dont text everyday. i have no one irl. maybe and hopefully that will change in the next few months. im sorry if you relate to the sentiment and i wish a well life to come to you soon. makes you crazy being so lonely.

>>81527154
well, you dont sound that strange. i mean most things you listed are not bad, would you say you are nice? and, your hobbies are a bunch of cool things too

>>81527131
It isn't human connection, not really. It's a substitute product, and real connections come with strings, the strings are the connection. If you connect with someone, there's a feeling there, and that feeling is a string.

I say go get a moid. Be bad at relationships in one, and try to be better.

> is it not different? an incel cant get sex, a femcel love.
as other anons in this thread have said, you could very easily get love. just like all "femcels", your celibacy is self imposed either by wanting to wallow in your own self pity or by your demand for men way out of your own league. although you deny this and say you dont want a chad, most females are attuned to lying and deception as an evolutionary mechanism so i dont see why you would be the exception
>>81527032
>most of my crushes are strange or unconventional looking men
can you give an actual example? most times i hear foids say this its always some htn-chadlite, i dont expect you to be any different.

>>81527180
it's just a 20 year old that thinks they'll never find love cause they tried for a week. women are so fucking stupid. but guys want their pussies so she'll find one eventually just by literally existing but she thinks she needs to do anything more than the most literal bare minimum of putting herself out there.
she could literally get contact info from any single person in this thread and probably find love easily but she has her fucking piece of shit fucking mind games cause she has her own idea of love in her head.

>>81527163
i understand nonnie, but women are different. your "sex" with a hooker can feel good as a man. soullessly fucking some moid means nothing. kissing even less. women are different. those women who whore around are liars most importantly to themselves. to the contrasts of our sex, we both have nothing.

>>81527222
>soullessly fucking some moid means nothing.
you're a fucking idiot kill yourself if you truly think that way
men and women not fucking femoids and moids are fucking humans

>>81527180
i try to be but i can often be paranoid and hurt people through that.

>>81527198
just physically? i like slavoj zizek and H.R giger LOL. that kinda look. i get your frustations nonnie. I just dont feel that same sentiment.

>>81527210
nonnie i dont want to be used just because a man wants "pussy" : ( thats my problem.

>>81527187
ive tried, trust. got molested twice. tried to be nice but he kept being sexaully harassy and got too handsy twice till i cut him off completely. i do get that. none of this matters. but im still interacting with someone, i guess. beats the loneliness in a shallow way.

>>81527241
paranoid? how come?

>>81527314
honestly? ive most likely got something psychologically wrong with me. had a weird mental breakdown when i was 12 or 13 that lasted about a year and i havent been the same since. being so paranoid i couldnt leave the house for weeks on end was no stranger to me when i was 12 and last saw a mental health prof who booted me out to go see a psch that never got arranged.... i guess i never got over it and the loneliness makes it worse.

>>81527393
>honestly? ive most likely got something psychologically wrong with me
that's really weird. and i'm sorry that happened to you. do you think anything else changed inside you after that day? besides the paranoia, have you had brain fog or things like that?
>the loneliness makes it worse
have you managed to make any friends after that?

>women act like le awkward loner
>treat women with love
>they see you as an easy mark and just string you along
>brutally cut you off eventually for that ego high

I hate you bpdemons so much. Go get knocked up by abuse chad

>>81527444
nonnie... if only you knew how much i hate BPD women..

>>81527260
>just physically? i like slavoj zizek and H.R giger LOL
are you sure youre attracted to them because of because of their looks and not because of their works? they are quite uncommon choices. looking at younger photos of them id probably place giger as ltn and zizek as mtn, htn if you include his height. i could be rating them a bit too leniently because they both mog me at the end of the day but still
>i get your frustations nonnie.
do you though? granted you are more open minded and humanlike than 95% of the foids who use this board, it isnt a very high bar. i despise seeing 3/10+ foids who could easily find and fall in love with a man above their looks level complain about not being able to. you dont really care about sexual intimacy? guess what, neither do i and neither do millions of men in your country, continent and the world at large. youre only likely to be maltreated or feel your relationship is devoid of romance if youre a shallow mongoloid who cares more about looks than anything else (aka 99%+ of foids) and therefore will turn a blind eye to a man's psyche if hes attractive enough and then they get stuck with an abusive, impulsive sociopath as a result. the majority foids are hybristophilic anyway so theyre not complaining (until it becomes advantageous for them, that is)

>>81526835 (OP)
>i have no friends IRL and spend all day inside looking at retarded shit thinking my esoteric interests makes up for my inability to socialise
You share many similarities with incels. I'm sorry that life has been rough for you.
>. i dont wont to kiss or fuck chad... i actually like guys who are weird and a little bit on the bigger side
As a bigger guy that's nice to hear but I really struggle to believe it.
>years go by and im still the same old loser on here reading about people saying this suffering means nothing cause i can just fuck some nasty moid.
Incels don't understand this mindset. It's foreign to them. They'd take just about anyone. It's why it's so hard for incels to relate to femcels.
>what now?
Do you really want someone? Try dating sites but not tinder. Hinge is a good start.

>>81527426
i get very badly confused if thats what you mean. really embarrassing moments in HS like teachers pulling me out of a daze after i skipped all class in the bathrooms and giving out to me before i burst into hysterics and told them i had no idea what was going on. or wondering around aimlesslly till i realised i had places to be and i was nowhere inside my self and being reduced to pathetic tears over how i couldnt stay put to myself. i moved schools after that mental breakdown but i was too unsocialised from the breakdown and the months of solitude and only made 3 friends and 2 of them apparently didnt like me and the other was the guy who would sexually harass me.

>>81527486
it sounds like your life has been a hassle ever since that breakdown... that sucks. but i meant friends in general, like irl, have you been able to get out of neetdom?

>>81527467
>are you sure youre attracted to them because of because of their looks
i like men like that, yes. of course it adds that they were who they were. very attractive for a man to be intelligent or talented and successful at what he does. but i like men who look like that and will find myself having a little look at man of those looks if i were to see him outside, say.
>do you though?
i guess maybe i dont! women and men are so different. maybe the better wording is that im trying to get it. i guess im picky about men. i want him to fit my standards which arent chad yes but still that limits it and have a hobby say hes good at and be somewhat intelligent.

>>81527550
nope. lonely as ever. ive really got no one now and its made me so inhuman its hard to see that changing.

>>81526835 (OP)
Maybe stop chasing chads nonna.

>>81527566
well, i don't know if you are looking for friends but we can be friends if you want

>>81527476
>As a bigger guy that's nice to hear but I really struggle to believe it.
promise you its true nonnie, lol. and its not just ugly chicks. got a friend whos very skinny and pretty and all her bfs have been chubby and she likes them that way.
>Incels don't understand this mindset. It's foreign to them. They'd take just about anyone. It's why it's so hard for incels to relate to femcels
yeah, again, i try to get it. it makes me feel a little bad about even being on here. but you people even if alot of you dont like me because oh well you can have sex and whatnot alot of you are people i most resonate with.
>Do you really want someone? Try dating sites but not tinder. Hinge is a good start.
again, picky. i just want to meet a boy naturally. id feel like a prostitute advertising myself on hinge.

>>81527604
>promise you its true nonnie, lol
Pinky?
>and its not just ugly chicks. got a friend whos very skinny and pretty and all her bfs have been chubby and she likes them that way.
I really want to believe it. I've had a girlfriend before, also skinny and pretty but now it's like I believe that no one could ever want me.
>yeah, again, i try to get it. it makes me feel a little bad about even being on here.
No don't feel bad about it. 4chan is for women too.
>but you people even if alot of you dont like me because oh well you can have sex and whatnot alot of you are people i most resonate with.
A lot of people here just don't like women all together but please don't let it get to you.
>again, picky. i just want to meet a boy naturally. id feel like a prostitute advertising myself on hinge.
I'm sure that life has something in store for you :). Just try to put yourself out there. You'll find your match.

>>81527582
whatre you active on nonnie? im a secretive and awkward person, dont take offense if i chicken out or struggle to talk.

>>81527706
whatever you find more comfortable to use. your call!

>>81527459
>what a bpdemon will say to trick you she's not like other girls

>>81526835 (OP)
What happens is basically that women are a lot more honest with themselves and that gets incels mad.

Incels cry about love too, but when women say they are femcels for the same reason, they immediately move the goalposts back to sex to monopolize their tantrums. They're retarded, want to take sympathy but refuse to give back. They're children.

>>81527717
discord, nonnie?

>>81526835 (OP)
Tell me your 3 favorite painters, 3 favorite music genres and 3 favorite game genres

>>81527736
Women have more of a chance for love AND sex than incels do. That's a plain fact. We've as males been largely rejected and it takes way more effort for us to find anything. That's what angers females. They have no argument for it.

>>81527736
>They're children.
We're not.

>>81527674
>Pinky?
pinky!
>now it's like I believe that no one could ever want me.
youve done it before. you seem like a nice guy. dont lose hope or get mopey. nothing less attractive! i hope youll find another pretty girl who loves you twice as much nonnie.
>I'm sure that life has something in store for you :). Just try to put yourself out there. You'll find your match
thank you... i try to keep my hopes up : )

>>81527747
discord sounds fine. do you want to drop your tag? if you feel uncomfortable i can drop some temp mail

>>81527750
hmm painters... i'll do artists in general instead because it MY thread nonnie.... i like francis bacon, phil hale and id tie between George Grosz and louis wain. music genres? power electronics, death industrial and old russian music or country. i dont play too many games nonnie... my favourites are darkseed, manhunt, postal, cruelty squad.... that kinda thing.

>>81527781
id prefer for you to drop yours. though i may be inactive very soon as i will be outside takinga break from the screen for a while soon. self pity thread as a last bit of internet mindrape.

>>81527814
temp mail still works! send me your tag to sewat95881@calorpg.com

>>81527056
hey im from the balkans, living here sucks its the worst place on earth, dont come here

>all these idiots being simp farmed by a bpd foid

>>81527803
Sorry you didn't get past my first filter. Good luck tho.

>>81527862
i think the balkans are pretty and the langauges and beautiful and the men even better but, yes, i wouldnt live there most likely. i hate living in my own country, though. most places are better.

>>81527837
im so sorry nonnie but im such an internet caveman idrk how to work this and i dont have my friend whos good at it up to tard guide me................

>>81527943
send an email to that address ! and put your discord tag in it. do you have email?

>>81527866
>>all these idiots being simp farmed by a bpd foid
whos simping, nonnie? im just talking.

>>81527955
yes yes but i dont want to give out my email to a nonnie............sorry nonnie!

>>81527994
try adding "tagtagtag_123" on discord, then

>>81527866
She seem nice from everything I've seen in this thread so I will hope she experiences the best in this life, I will simp for her within the confines of this thread, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.

>>81528150
a mild dose of in the moment of digital interaction simping is ok for the soul nonnie. youve still got a heart in there after all...... go give that energy to a real girl.

>>81528150
yep that's what soulless cattle like you do