Foids can't refute this

hi female here
well i hate feminism but i dont see it as a way to shut out the incels although thats a huge result of it.
in essence the purpose of feminism is just to destroy women while simultaneously destroying men. it ruins the longing for a nuclear family and relationship stability and makes women prioritize short term relationships and careers instead of ltrs and family creating. its really about population control and revenue increase for the government. at least thats the way i see it. maybe i am rarted and didnt word this well because i am lazy and sick but oh well. hope you enjoyed this useless ramble from a living toilet.

>>81534023
why are you insulting yourself and feminism for brownie points from these ugly low iq subhumans who hate you anyway? cringe. do pickmes really? have some self-esteem.

>>81534042
what is a brownie point saar i dont like niggers. go ahead an call me a pick me but theres nothing wrong with that. infact society could do with some more of those angels

>>81534023
"hope you enjoyed this useless ramble from a living toilet"
how did you end up a living toilet? were you destroyed by feminism too?

>>81534063
i hate women and feminism because both have ruined my life. myself being a woman is included. women ruin other women and encourage women to ruin themselves. i am a human toilet because i am an internet and irl punching bag to the normie society and my life is doomed to gloom. wont be successful or be able to live out my dreams solely because of the way women have shaped our society economy and government.

>>81534096
so you're a human toilet more just in the way of people bullying you and not because you've become a slut? i would say you can at least count your blessings then.

>>81533973 (OP)
It's impossible to explain feminism logically because women do not understand logic. Feminism was about emotions. Women saw that men had opportunities they didn't (opportunities like toiling in factories or dying in war) and they had the emotional reaction that it isn't fair. They didn't consider WHY these activities were restricted to men, they simply saw that men had something they didn't and they wanted it. That's what feminism is about.

>>81533973 (OP)
I like being able to vote. Thats feminism. I like that I can read and write. Thats feminism. I like that I can go to school and get an education. Thanks to feminism. I like that I can support my family financially with my own job, as they dont have any sons and only daughters to rely on. I like being able to speak my mind in public and be listened to.
That is ALL feminism.
So, no. Not everything is always about you. Get over yourself and sybau

>>81534023
Why do nearly all women accept messages of misandry by default? Why do they accept any false accusations of their men or falsified history when it's presented to them by the most wretched misandrist lesbians? Is it that because these messages just resonate well with their own misandrist nature?
You can't even blame it on the jews, this is a timeless phenomenon. Why are they willing to act even against their own self-interest if they are presented with an opinion from a female which they can latch onto to justify their hatred of men?

WHY? Why are they so fucking hateful? Why do they just believe ANYTHING? Why does their female in-group preference override even just basic survival instincts? WHY? Why do they hate men so much?

>>81533973 (OP)
>women are not empowered because they're picking better men than me
retard.

>>81534133
>being able to vote
objectively bad for everyone
>read and write
women could learn this before feminism
>go to school
You're learning propaganda
>support my family financially
thanks for flooding the job market and supressing wages, whore
>speak my mind in public
we would all be happier if you were quiet

>>81534159
IQ is decreasing, crime is going up, politicians are getting dumber, everyone hates each other, divorce rates are at an all time high. I really don't think selection of men is improving at all.

>>81534107
its silly seeing 4chan girls from a few years ago alter their recent personas to be more right wing now that they realize men dont like yapping liberal fleshlights.

>>81534167
your existence is objectively bad for the world but you have not killed yourself yet unfortunately. what's stopping you?

>>81534145
its literally because of jewish propaganda im sorry to tell you this but it just is saar

>>81534042
Holy fuck make an argument about building a better society with nice things like relationships and families rather than just insulting people. Pride is garbage when it's just delusional brainrot and insulting others to be snarky

>>81534181
Well, you see, I am a fantastic person and without me the world would be a far worse place, so I choose not to kill myself because I care too much about the world to let it decline like that

>>81534190
how telling that this entire thread is full of deranged hatred of women and the only post that bothered you was me rightfully trying to beat some sense into an embarrassingly self-hating pickme.

idk i think we should all just be nice to each other

>>81534133
>I like that I can read and write.
>I like that I can go to school and get an education.
>I like that I can support my family financially with my own job,
These are not because of feminism and predate liberal feminism by a wide margin.
>I like being able to vote.
I bet you don't even go to town meeting and you've never met your representative.

>>81534145
Imagine living in a violently misogynistic world and unironically believing this schizophrenic wall of text

>>81534210
i dont hate myself. i like myself very much actually thanks (: the reason being that i can hold myself accountable for my actions and dont just blame men for the obvious faults of women.
just as other women should be able to do yet refuse to.. like yourself for example
maybe if you didnt spread your legs to shitty men you arent committed to you wouldnt have such a shit view of men hmmm
maybe men would treat you better if you didnt follow the masses and go after hedonistic fuckboys and blow out your pussy for likes on social media. have fun with your useless career while the school systems groom the children youll never have since youre more concerned with le feminism ideals than shaping a better reality. yeah be a strong empowered woman and get naked on instagram because thats real healthy for everyone xD

>>81534246
you probably support islam lol the irony

>>81534210
pickmes are good, though. All women should be pickmes.

All of these women crying about living in a violently misogynistic world while being in the United States Of America should truly kill themselves or be shipped to africa where women are raped and beaten for speaking out of line and have their genitals mutilated the same way men do on our very own soil btw

t. based antiwoman female

>>81534273
>t. based antiwoman female
YWNBAW

>>81534255
You probably support rape so you have a lot in common with Muslims lol the irony.

>>81534278
https://voca.ro/18P7FtsHcRIx
cry.

>>81534285
i dont support rape but feminism and liberalism go hand in hand and feminists support rape but it goes right over their heads because theyre fucking brainless kek and your response is literally just the cake of it

>>81534210
There is no pickme from the same reason there is no femcel.

>>81534249
LMAOOOOOO i thought you were a pathetic pickme, turns out you were actually just a tranny. here is a passing tip: stop talking like a retarded incel.
>>81534265
and where is your pickme?

>>81534289
Please fucking marry me

>>81534273
>>81534289
you are trying too hard to compensate for what? ugliness? low iq?

>>81534169
That's men being shit, has nothing to do with feminism

>>81534320
fuck niggas quick to simp when a girl say le naughty naughty word

>>81534227
>these are not because of feminism
Not new age, 3rd wave feminism, but ultimately due to feminist efforts in the past. I dont support liberal feminism in the way it is being blown out of proportion now, but the fundamental idea of it is good and should be preserved.
>I bet you dont even go to town meeting and youve never met your representative
I am not American, but in my country I am actively involved in politics.

>>81534167
>objectively bad for everyone ?
Everyone within a democratic society actively participating in its democracy is bad..?
>women could learn this before feminism
Privileged women from rich families could if their families deemed it necessary to provide them with an education. A lot of the times, they didnt. And if they got married, their education didnt mean much anymore, as it was essentially not needed. Today, women and men receive the same education and is regarded as being worth the same. It opens them equal opportunities to the future. Also women are required to get basic education now. It used to be optional.
>Youre learning propaganda
Im sure a lot of it is, but that doesnt change the fact that an education gets you ahead in life.
>thanks for flooding the job market
Youre welcome

>>81534317
im not a troon faggot ive been around here for several years and libshit retards like yourself are the reason oldfags left this board
because you are quite literally the definition of a normie despite your attempt to distance yourself from the title by using 4chan. realistically you likely came from tiktok and are only spreading the ideas of the mass media thinking youre original and helpful when youre a cowardly pawn of the government. so yeah if you get raped its your own fault for voting for policies that condone letting in rapists and giving them shorter sentences. but as you wish.. that is your feminist ideal after all. vote in terrible policies and then blame men for your stupidity. youre really boring and if i wanted to talk to a blown out whore with 2 braincels id go to starbucks and speak to a they/them.

>>81534317
unfortunately, many women don't understand that they're best as pickmes, so I don't have one yet. After the revolution I will.

feminists be like "men are all rapists and murderers" then go and vote for open borders and trannies in womyn spaces, lol they are all retarded

>>81534320
i am dating a polish 17 year old 4000 miles away because society wants me to kill myself. my apologies dead anon..

>>81534023
>>81534042
>>81534133
>>81534181
>>81534210
>>81534246
foids managed to destroy:
>movies
>books
>society
>their own babies
>their reputation amongst men
>the democratic party
>liberalism in general
and all because they wanted hookups with chad. it's time to stop teaching girls how to read, time to stop them from entering the workplace as anything except drudges and time to stop criminalizing violence against them. laws exist to protect men, not foids. it's also supposedly for their own good but i haven't figured out how yet

>>81534353
I MEANT DEAR NOT DEAD NOO DONT DIE

>>81534342
>>81534344
so are you two going to fuck since you both hate women and have equally low iq? dysgenics will never run out of business with you two!

>>81534331
how do you even begin to justify this position
>>81534333
>Everyone within a democratic society actively participating in its democracy is bad..?
Yes, obviously. The only people who should participate in a democracy are those who have the capacity to think. Women should not be allowed to vote, they can't wield their vote responsibly. It's the same reason children aren't allowed to vote.
>women's education was essentially not needed
it still isn't needed
>education gets you ahead in life
education prepares you for your worthless daycare job. women don't work, thy just think they do
>flooding the job market
funny you can't refute this, just like you can't refute any other criticisms of your retarded death worship ideology

>>81534186
I can't believe it anymore. It goes way deeper than that.

>>81534364
>if you don't agree with me you have a low IQ
156
Most high IQ people are misogynist

>>81534352
Millionth time a retard itt claims feminism has anything to do with the rapefugee crisis as if they are related in any way

>>81534377
most high iq and mentally stable people also happen to be more right leaning. this is how you know this bitch gets her information from tiktok influencers

>>81534023
Why don't you just find a man that loves you and marry him? Feminism cannot stop you from doing that. Same with creating a family, social approval is not needed to be a mother. Are you not antisocial enough to do what you want?

>>81534331
Men hardly have any agency of their own, they do what females are selecting for.

>>81534377
most misogynists are also retarded and ugly just like you

>>81534383
>women get the right to vote
>women overwhelmingly vote for open borders
>migrants commit rape at astronomical rates
>women don't see the connection
but it's okay they should still be allowed to vote guys they're intelligent, responsible, mature, and knowledgeable citizens (:

>>81534372
jamie pull up feminists by religion

>>81534370
>funny you cant refute this
Its just a dogshit argument. In the same way you could say that men are flooding the job market for women. When yall were off dying in wars, women took over most of the job market and kept it running. When the men came back lots of women were kicked out of the jobs they rightfully had and were essentially pushed out of a workforce they had kept alive for years. So either way, the job market is full and you can point to either side if you really wanna point fingers that badly.
>Its the same reason children arent allowed to vote.
And heres the problem and reason it is impossible to argue with you. You unironically believe that women and children have the same intellectual capacity. You cannot fathom the fact that women are actually fully functioning and intectually capable humans. And no matter how much people tell you, you wont believe it. So this entire conversation is essentially futile.
>women dont work, they just think they do
Like I said, when you guys were all off blowing each others heads off, women were successfully working traditionally male jobs just fine. So they are clearly capable. And even now, there are women running entire countries successfully.

>>81534399
>Why don't you just find a man that loves you and marry him?

I was married. I got cucked by whores because women are evil manipulative and alluring. Women have baited men into being driven by pornography and sex for the purpose of funding major sex and government industries. He had a pornography issue and was raised by a terrible feminist whore of a mother.

>Feminism cannot stop you from doing that.

Actually both parents would need to work to support a family.. so if that would be the case id never be able to be there for my children..and even then in most cases its extremely hard to afford having children because feminist retards thought sitting at home raising children wasnt satisfying enough. Theyd rather their kids get groomed by the school systems and peers than raise them to be strong willed people that think for themselves.

>Same with creating a family, social approval is not needed to be a mother.

explain why every single woman that wants to stay home and have children is shitted on to an extreme by other women who cry that her happiness and success is oppressive.

>Are you not antisocial enough to do what you want?

kill yourself.

>>81534417
I went over this several times. Jews took over feminism when the movement was already established. Feminism was started by white Christian women and all their grassroots work had no jewish involvement. If jews went away they would still despise men. They despised men before jews even came into first contact with early western societies. The same refusing to marry/inheritance hoarding phenomenon happened in Sparta as well.

But let's hear your side then, WHY did they accept the opinion of misandrist jews? Why did they just go along with any slander they came up with? It most certainly wasn't the popular opinion, it had to start somewhere, but as soon as it came in contact with any woman it just worked like a charm. Why? Explain the finer details, because to me it looks like they are ready to take the stance of ANYONE against their men. I can't help but think that it's just how they feel by default.

>>81534498
Every time you use the word misandry I just have to laugh that shit is not real

>>81534498
February 15 marks the bicentenary of the American social reformer Susan B. Anthony. Deemed an incomparable organizer by historian Eleanor Flexner Anthony grew up in a Quaker family that possessed only a handful of history books. Yet these included two different editions in two and six volumes respectively of the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus who wrote during the reign of the Roman emperor Flavius Domitian to explain Jewish history to non-Jewish readers.

Awareness of Jewish history was part of her upbringing as Anthony fought to abolish slavery and promote equal rights for women and African Americans. In 1876 Anthony and colleagues began work on what became a massive six-volume History of Woman Suffrage in which public speeches are quoted referring to Jews in traditionally pejorative terms but also from more enlightened progressive points of view.

a quick search of nearly any feminist influence ever displays their connection to judiasm almost always

>>81534521
I'm glad you find it amusing, I hope you're having a good time.

>>81534498
>Feminism was started by white Christian women
I think you more specifically mean Protestant women.

>>81534498
>but as soon as it came in contact with any woman it just worked like a charm. Why?
women are lemmings who follow the mainstream with no resistance. the biggest nazi supporters in germany were women

>>81534437
Congradulations on finding love. Pornography is a skill issue, only weak men fall for it. You don't need a lot of money to raise children. Just look at the trailer trash drug addixts who create whole dynasties while unemployed. Being shit on for being a mother should just maje you happy and snarky for being better than them, if you are not a stupid normie. Judging by the last sentence, you are. Your precious orderly society is dead and us homeless schizos are going to breed like rabbits over it's corpse.

>>81534431
>You unironically believe that women and children have the same intellectual capacity.
I also unironically believe that the sky is blue, four is the sum of two and two, and the stuff that comes out of your ass every day is poo.

>>81534431
>women running entire countries successfully
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>81534521
I feel similarly about misogyny

>>81534560
>Congratulations on finding love.

thanks but no thanks. your feminism army has ruined it.

>Pornography is a skill issue, only weak men fall for it.

men are being groomed at a young age by promiscuous women all over the internet and irl. you are fucking retarded. before and during puberty men and physically and emotionally vulnerable and the majority of what theyre exposed to online and irl are near naked whores promoting easy sex and hating men.

>You dont need a lot of money to raise children. Just look at the trailer trash drug addixts who create whole dynasties while unemployed.
Oh you mean the feminist single moms that got pumped and dumped by tyrone? Yeah im sure their lives are realll good thanks to feminism.

>Being shit on for being a mother should just make you happy and snarky for being better than them if you are not a stupid normie.

You only get shit on by other women if you arent a carbon copy of the garbage theyve become.

>Judging by the last sentence you are. Your precious orderly society is dead and us homeless schizos are going to breed like rabbits over its corpse.

No you will have a haunted pussy from the deaths of many children and a career to worry about instead.

>>81534530
Please address the second part of my reply. People always seem to gloss over that point. Why were these anti-male messages of portraying men as oppressors, abusers and ENEMIES so successful with women, regardless of the falsehoods they contained? Why are women predisposed to accept them? Why are women so eager to just *BE* against men?
I want to hear your opinion.
>>81534555
It wasn't the mainstream opinion back then, but they went along with it on first contact. Why?

>>81534621
because its always easier to blame someone else other than yourself for the faults of your community.

women also scientifically are not able to separate feelings from logic. all it takes is 1 bad boyfriend for a woman to lose her shit and cry that all men are le bad

>>81534616
First of all, i have to clarify that i am a young man who is not a feminist. Second, i was exposed to porn from a young age, my family's partment literally has posters of porn actresses on walls. I did not develop a desire for pornography and am a pure virgin who wats no sex before marriage. So, skill issue. I don't mean sigle moms, but full families livibg in trailer parks on barely any money while raising 2-4 children. You caring what other women think of you is weak. And i will be a father of 5-10 children from my future antisocial femcel wife. Culture is stupid, society is stupid.

>>81534703
>First of all i have to clarify that i am a young man who is not a feminist.

ok and

>Second i was exposed to porn from a young age. my familys apartment literally has posters of porn actresses on walls.

so you had terrible parents that disgusted you early on. lovely.

>I did not develop a desire for pornography and am a pure virgin who wats no sex before marriage.

almost no men are virgin by choice.

>I don't mean single moms but full families living in trailer parks on barely any money while raising 2-4 children.

Never seen married couples living in trailer parks with several children lmao.

>You caring what other women think of you is weak.

Oh yeah its only made me lose experience and opportunities that could have made my life better.. fucking moron

>And i will be a father of 5-10 children from my future antisocial femcel wife.

by age 18 less rhan 12% of women are virgins. gg chud. there are no femcels. and if there are any they wouldnt be choosing you.

>Culture is stupid. society is stupid.

no shit?

>>81534640
>because its always easier to blame someone else other than yourself for the faults of your community.
What about women who end up having similar feelings while living in communities that never did them any harm?
> all it takes is 1 bad boyfriend
What about women who weren't even wronged by men and end up having these feelings ? We know there's plenty of those.

There has to be more to it than absolving themselves of accountability. Hell, no one is even holding them accountable but they still think of men as their enemies. It has to be instinct. It's embedded in their genome. It's impossible to argue against them or convince them because it's how they feel, it's inside them, it's what their gut feeling tells them to do, to just... BE against men, to live their lives against men, even if it's against their own long term self-interest
Words are completely meaningless, they are of no use. You can disagree with me, I don't mind, I'm used to getting shit on for having this opinion, but you sure as shit will never convince them to have different feelings. The heart wants what the heart wants.

>>81534757
I clarified because you assumed that i was a woman. I am virgin by choice, i had women offer me sex or relationships both irl and on discord, but refused because they were not femcels. You probably went yo the wrong trailer parks, the families live in nicer ones or sometimes even just out in some desert in the vehicle. You only lose experience and oportunitiesif you care about what people have to say. It is that easy. I have no trouble finding virgin women on disvord, but they are usually not antisocial enough so i ghost them. My remark about society pertains to you caring about it. Just exist outsidevof it, leave the bloody matrix, go off the grid.

>>81534798
>What about women who end up having similar feelings while living in communities that never did them any harm?

They have friends who tell stories. And women being the more empathetic gender (to other women specifically) hop on bandwagons quickly when it supports another woman of their liking.

>What about women who werent even wronged by men and end up having these feelings ? We know there's plenty of those.
Yeah theyre brainwashed by peer reviews literally. Women with good fathers and good relationships with men wont just randomly start hating them.. unless their best friend has some horrible hateworthy story against other men

the idea of the strong independent woman is a meme that women fell for. theyre simply dumb and feeling oriented.

>>81534829
>I have no trouble finding virgin women on disvord

oh yeah thats cuz every woman on discord is a virgin

youre a fucking loser lmao. easily baited.. i feel really sorry for you. youll end up stuck with whoever lies long enough to you to suck your funds up.

>>81534873
You think i have not anticipated lies? I have no money and want to be homeless with my future wife. She gains nothing from lying. If she is a true femcel, she will be just happy to be in love.

>>81534912
LOL women arent happy with just love buddy so throw in the towel. They dont need men anymore remember? and even so they wouldnt choose to be homeless with you over blowing their pussies out for a funded chad. sorry bud.

>>81534860
>Yeah theyre brainwashed by peer reviews literally.
>They have friends who tell stories.

I understand, but WHY does it work? Why is it as simple as:
>lesbian misandrist walks up to a woman
>"Wanna know who your enemies are?"
>"Uh, yeah."
>"Men."
>"Wow, you're right, thanks."

That came out like an anti-joke, might as well be. God fuck it all.

>>81534920
Like i said it works because scientifically women can not separate feeling from logic.

>>81534918
I tall, handsome and charming enough to make a genuenly lonely metally ill woman follow my lifestyle. Getting impregnated by my superior seed and being able to know that i am exclusive to her is worth it.

>>81534990
yeah try convincing her youre superior in comparison to fully funded chad retard this is literally just a cope

>>81534999
I will not only try but succeed. I cannot stop winning.

>>81534929
Understood. Why are they inclined to feel this way then? Why is so easy to get them to this state of mind?
I mean, everyone has feelings and everyone prefers to listen to their own, we are all human beings, but why do they have this particular set of feelings?

Just keep peeling it away by repeating "why?" and eventually you'll get an answer. Some people prefer to leave those layers of uncertainty in place and steer the discourse elsewhere, even the so-called blackpill community prefers to leave a few thin layers of cope (such as the Chad worship) there for the sake of emotional comfort.

Most women fucking despise men, simple as. Always have, always will. It's how they are, evolutionary pressure, some undesirable vestigial traits, brain chemistry, it's just how they're built. It's in their DNA. It's in YOUR DNA. The only reason you might develop any camaraderie with men is because of some basic familiarity and your own self-interest. Aside from that, they mean nothing to you either. We simply had no evolutionary pressure to have any affection towards men and women don't even have what little you have to counteract this deeply rooted programming that we can just cover with the umbrella term of "male disposability". It's more than the logistical realities of reproduction, it's a set of feelings and they are here to stay forever.

>>81535197
>Most women fucking despise men
They don't despise chad, they love him

>>81535293
No, the idea of Chad is your pilot light of hope. In reality, he's nothing more than an item to signal their status to other women, fulfill some of their urges and get some physical relief, most often in the form of sterile sex which, after the novelty wears off, hardly amounts to any more emotional involvement than taking a shit.
"Chad" gets divorce raped and cast aside all the time but you reject that notion because in Chad, you have the most priceless cope, an imaginary exemption from the grim reality of it.
In your imagination Chad is a male who is a recipient of genuine female affection, so it has to be possible after all, the feeling HAS to exist somewhere, even if it's far away.

Chad is your teddy bear that you keep hugging to protect you from the nightmare that is male existence.

>>81534798
>BE against men, to live their lives against men, even if it's against their own long term self-interest
To add to this, I just want you to remember how common it is for certain female communities to utilize their self-declared day of commemoration, women's day not to actually celebrate being a woman, but to simply be anti-male.