>daughter gets killed by illegal hispanic immigrant
>"I LOVE MEXICAN FOOD, BOY I SURE DO LOVE STREET TACOS AND DONT HATE HISPANICS!!! DAUGHTER? HUH? WHATS THAT? YEAH IDK BUT BACK TO TACOS..."

>>81537652 (OP)
this isn't /pol/ big guy

>>81537725
And yet youre a fag like they are

>>81537652 (OP)
They have an entire organisation at the Department of Justice which pressures families into making these statements. It's called the "Community Relations Service". Everything is fake and gay.

>>81537783
came here to post this, thank you chad. the snivel rights act and its consequences...

>>81537783
What, they coach some dumbass boomer to ignore his daughters death and focus on how beautiful mexican food is in public interviews?

>>81537652 (OP)
men dont really care about their daughters thats why

>>81537652 (OP)
imagine the ethnic food though imagine the melting pot THOUGH

>>81537652 (OP)
antiracism and its consequences

>>81537783
>its real
i now understand doge

>>81537652 (OP)
>CORNED.COB

>>81537950
doge can't remove something like this, we need legislation. elon thought we were like argentina where there was tons of obvious graft and patronage that could be cut but no, we would need to actually change laws if we wanted to reduce the size of government.

>>81537814
Notice who the authors are. Really gets the noggin joggin

/pol/ acts like every race gets together and meets to determine how to screw the white race, when the white race does a good enough job destroying itself. Watch the anti vaxer movement that's blowing up in the country wipe out tons of white people. They'll then start saying RFK Jr is apart of white genocide.

>>81537652 (OP)
>>81537735
A white person pissed me off once so I hate every white person. I use my position in my university's student government to underfund clubs that have a large white majority and distribute to the non-white clubs.
Is this better OP?

>>81537783
Why the fuck would you listen to them? I don't understand some people

>>81538042
correct; 90% of what's attributed to jews, whites did themselves. suicidal empathy.

>>81538068
This is your mind on anal parasites

>>81538087
comments like this lose a lot of credibility when you learn that like 40% of this board's traffic comes from Israel

>>81538080
they probably don't introduce themselves that way, they probably present themselves as a resource for the grieving family and help take care of things that need doing amidst all the chaos and maybe provide some kind of financial assistance. then they're grateful and are easily persuaded about the greater good and not contributing to broader violence.

>>81537652 (OP)
I want a taco now OP

>>81538098
But you should be fine with it, according to your own logic. Why do you dislike it?

>>81538326
>"according to your own logic"
>illegal immigrants equatable to a racial group

>>81537834
eat shit and fucking die alone you rancid cunt

>>81537652 (OP)
>>81537783
Yeah they definitely get bribed/blackmailed into making these kinds of statements.

>>81537652 (OP)
Chvd logic:
>white person commits a crime
>clearly the individual is evil
>non-white person commits a crime
>clearly their entire ethnicity has evil in their genes and needs to be eradicated

>>81538692
More like
>overwhelming majority of white people do not commit crimes
>therefore a single white person committing a crime isn't representative of the whole group
>disproportionately enormous quantity of black and hispanic people commit crimes
>therefore black and hispanic criminals represent their communities

>>81538702
>non-whites commit more crimes than whites
>somehow, the only explanation for this is them having evil in their genes
Again, Chvd logic

>son gets molested
>"I can't wait to leave this up to the legal system to decide the repercussions"
Just kidding
>BOOM

>>81538747
Niggers are very dumb and there is NOTHING you can post on r9k that will change that fact

>son gets molested
>"I cant wait to leave this to the legal system to decide the repercussions"
Just kidding
>BOOM

>>81538747
Do you not believe that genetics might influence a person's behavior? Other explanations are possible, but all of those put forward by lefties (it's actually poverty!) are insufficient.

>>81538828
>poverty as an explanation is insufficient
its the strongest predictor of crime bar none in criminology. What the fuck are you talking about you uneducated hog?

>>81538859
Normal (white,asian) people don't rape and murder when they are poor

>>81538351
What you said in the OP implies he should dislike hispanics because his daughter was killed by an illegal hispanic immigrant. I'm doing the same thing, except I dislike white people. So what's the issue?

>>81538859
Then why do poor whites and rich blacks commit violent crime at similar rates?

>>81538970
also white men and black women, can't forget that one

>>81538702
>>disproportionately enormous quantity of black and hispanic people commit crimes
>>therefore black and hispanic criminals represent their communities
Are you retarded? An overwhelming majority of most races don't commit crimes either.
You are disregarding the sample size of crimes. Most people don't commit crimes, period.

>>81538828
>Do you not believe that genetics might influence...
Correlation does not mean causation.
And if you really want to be scientific about it, there's a recognized hereditary component of personality. But literally every psychologist also recognizes the role that the environment plays in the development of that personality. Furthermore, there's no particular gene or personality trait that is known to be responsible for crime.
Disagreeableness is related to antisocial behavior if it's not well socialized, so is neuroticism. But none of them are solely responsible for a tendency to commit crime and, given that the majority of people don't actually commit violent crime, it's a retarded hypothesis, as the importance of environment is clear.

>it's poverty!!
No. That is retarded, we agree on that. It's relative poverty + antisocial tendencies + lack of proper socialization + cultural context + other things.
Do genes play a part? Certainly, it would be interesting to do an analysis of chuldren of criminals that are raised by non-criminals. Given that, if you pair those genetics with an enviroment that promotes crime (as it would be bejng raised by a criminal) it will obviously lead to those traits being emphasized.

But, overall, the argument is bad because it's still a minority, in all cases.
>illegals
I believe that there must be a correlation between the willingness to break 1 rule (entering a country illegally) and breaking other rules. Which would explain why illegals commit more crimes, repeated offenders and such.

I still hate niggers.

>>81539120
>Most people don't commit crimes, period.
this is true. It is also true that black and hispanic people commit crimes at a much greater rate than people of other races. These facts can coexist.
>correlation does not mean causation
No, but causation does mean causation.
>there's no particular gene that is known to be responsible for crime
No, but there are genes responsible for impulse control, and they're switched off in a statistically significant number of Africans. So that probably has something to do with it.
>Environment matters!
Surely it does. This is why poorer black people commit more crimes than richer black people. But it doesn't explain why richer black people commit more crimes than poorer white people. That suggests there are additional factors
Think about the argument you're making here. Do you earnestly believe that a person's genetic makeup doesn't influence their behavior?

>>81539155
>Do you earnestly believe that a person's genetic makeup doesn't influence their behavior?
I already answered this.
But I do not believe that thought processes are inherited. It's more like generalized traits.
>rich black and poor whites
I'd like to see a study on this, genuinely. And it must account for the environment those rich blacks were raised in. Because, using rappers who made their money basically shilling a criminal lifestyle are a horrible basis for this argument.
>violent crime
I recently saw that blacks commit something like 56% of MURDERS, not overall crime.
Despite my bias, I can't ignore that there's a possibility that most of these are black-on-black and gang related, probably done by repeat offenders, too. Thus being useless as a way of deriving a racial conclusion. More like signaling a problem in the justice system, or perhaps the prevalence of gangs.
>>81539155
>So that probably has something to do with it.
Yeah sure, but the covariance should be calculated for this.
What do I believe? I believe that these generalized trends are useless and basically meaningless, for many reasons.
I dislike black culture and they're loud and the impulse control thing is certainly relevant. And, in generalized (vague) terms, countries where niggers are the majority have an IQ so low that it's practically impossible to teach them anything. But for all practical purposes, I favor the individual in real life interactions, as that is the only thing that is really relevant.

>>81539266
>I favor the individual in real life interactions, as that is the only thing that is really relevant.
I do the same thing. But when you're considering an entire population of people that collectively commits far, far more violence than the other, then for the safety of the whole you can't act as though they're all the same. You need to put measures in place to protect the others, and often this means separating the more violent group.

>>81539280
>You need to put measures in place to protect the others, and often this means separating the more violent group.
I addressed the problems I have with the claim that they commit more crime, as now that claim is disregarding the sample size of the criminals (repeat offenders).
It also raises the issue that, pairing antisocial people with other people with antisocial tendencies only aggravates those traits. It's one of the reasons why the prison system creates more repeated offenders than it encourages reformed behavior. So, that can also mean dooming people from the start.
I do think that the prison system is necessary and that your assertion of segregation is correct.
I think immigration requirements should focus on integration potential or ability to integrate to the established society.
The current problem wuth these populations is that, both groups came into other countries by mass, uncontrolled transfer, blacks by slavery and hispanics by illegal entry.
So you kinda ended up having to deal with these "poisonous apples" because nobody could filter them out, thus creating this problem.
How do you solve it? Stronger policing and punishment so that repeat offenders aren't gjven the chance to offend again and you try to reverse the spread of the rot. But it might be too late, given that crime always starts with an advantage.
And then retvrn to promoting traditional values that encourage good behavior, instead of antisocial shit.

my best friend's cousin was killed some years ago and it wasnt an immigrant that did it, but some local

people do evil shit, you're not gonna hate an entire group of people for something that some asshole did, and if you were to take that path then sooner or later logic would demand that you hate a group that you belong to yourself

>>81539386
I would suggest that even accounting for repeat offenders, blacks still commit violent crime at a rate massively out of proportion to their population. Can I definitively prove that it's because of their genetic makeup? No. But I do think that's pretty likely given that blacks have higher criminality than whites in basically any environment. I don't disagree with the rest of what you have to say, I just think it's self-evident that black people are more prone to act violently than white people.

>>81539412
You don't have to hate a problematic group of people to take measures to reduce the harm they do to you.

>>81539434
>people to take measures to reduce the harm they do to you.
That is literally oppression aka hate.

>>81539476
>take away your child's nintendo
>you hate your child
retard

>>81538828
>it's actually poverty
that's not actually leftist analysis but liberal analysis. The biggest predictor for crime is class, not income.

>lumpen
violent crime
>proletarian
least likely to commit any crime
>petit bourgeoisie and bourgeoisie
scams, white collar crime, child rape islands, shit you can easily get away with if you have the money (you do)

In america (which is a country with an uniquely racist history) the people with the most unstable relationship with production (and by that I mean people that own no property and that are unlikely to find employment) are almost exclusively the ones with browner skin colors. When you have neither property nor employment then you need to find different ways to make a living, which can be (and often is) crime, but it can also be vagrancy, begging and whatnot.

It's the reason poor whites are often non criminals, they're generally low income proletarians. Since they have a consistent source of income (their low paying jobs) crime stays out of mind.

But it doesn't end there. The way people think is coherent to their material conditions. To their class. So, it's no surprise that people that are forced to live violent, opportunistic and mercenary lives within the outskirts of society will sometimes commit acts of violence for no practical reason. It's simply what they know and what they're used to, and often having abilities for violence is even considered desirable.

>>81539434
You fixated entirely on "hate".
The person that killed my friend's cousin was from the same race and nationality as me and him and the majority of the country really. He was just some average guy.

Should we nuke ourselves? is our race and nationality inherently bad? of course not, that guy was just some crazy.

>>81539496
oh joy marxism
just what this board needs

>>81539481
Women (their Jewish lawyers) use such argument in a court of law.
>muh lifestyle, I can't go back I am entitled to bazillion dollaritos!
And Jewish judges accept this argument.

>>81539496
America has a uniquely strong merger of the concepts of race and class. It's so ingrained in their society and culture, that even trying to separate them is almost impossible, because several factors in both of these categories are related, historically and from an analytical perspective. It's even WORSE, when you think about the fact that "race" is just another type of "class" or "group", which makes thing even muddier.
I have tried. Racial relations in the US are genuinely such a big mess that it's fucking retarded.
Speaking to americans in terms of class is genuinely useless. Both leftists and right wingers will always conflate both terms. It's simply impossible.

>>81539496
>black people are forced to turn to crime to survive
reminder: there are people who believe this shit and aren't joking

>>81539516
People who don't share your culture and genetics are inherently bad if you think the current state of your country is worth conserving.

>>81539529
>I can't go back
Are you talking about blacks?
If so, they have spent as much time in the continent as whites. So you can't make a "go back" argument. You can make an argument for exile. But that brings up many other problems, both with international law and as precedent for other cases.
If you are referring to illegals, no. That's just retarded.
>JOOOOOOZ
ah, so you're retarded.

>>81539538
The racial element is only true in america and other countries with similar history, but all countries under capitalism generate an underclass without property and employability that is therefore forced to live in a barbarian XV century ass way. This is by design.

In order to have control of the workers you need to keep a certain amount of people unemployed, that way if the workers get uppity and try to get decent work conditions, you can threaten to fire them all and hire people from the jobless underclass instead, which also instills the fear of BECOMING a part of the underclass.

>>81539542
Are you even reading my posts? that shit about 4chan being botted to hell is no joke

>>81539542
>culture and genetics
The problem is that these things aren't as related as you make it out to be. And there's 0 scientific evidence to support your claim.
There's actually evidence for the contrary.

>>81539561
Oh well if there's no (((scientific evidence))) I guess there's nothing to worry about then.

>>81539551
>This is by design.
That's false.
And poverty kn the first world looks absolutely nothing like poverty in the XV century, it doesn't even look like poverty in current day 3rd world countries.
This is the stupidity of the marxist.

>>81539569
>anything that contradicts my schizo race theories is jewish

touching grass is jewish man dont do it

>>81539574
>anything that contradicts what Jews say is good is bad
goyim are cattle

>>81539571
>that's false
woah incredible argument, I can just say "that's false to your whole post" too lol

But anyway If It wasn't obvious I brought up the XV century as an exageration, what I meant was simply that if you don't have an employment or property then you have to live in a mercenary way just taking whatever you can from any source because you don't know where your next meal is gonna come from. I thought works of fiction like Berserk or some shit would come to mind and create an idea, but I admit it was my bad to not think some folks would take it literally.

>>81539569
>I guess there's nothing to worry about then.
Your reductionism and stupidity is literally at the same level of that other marxist poster.
And then you retards really think you are different. Truly amazing.

Even the webm you just posted can not only be explained by the posts I made here, but it can also be solved with I said. You actually do a disservice to the preservation of the ideas that your country was built on, by making such retarded claims and thus linking these good ideas with your stupidity.

>>81539601
>I'm very smart and you're very dumb
>>>reddit

>>81539582
>>81539608
we accept your concession, you are allowed to cry and shit yourself within the next 15 minutes

>>81539616
Jews do not like you. Wake up sheeple!

>>81539551
>all countries under capitalism generate an underclass without property and employability
This is a flat untruth. Your whole argument is contingent on the belief that Africans were assigned a position from which there is no escape but crime, which is incorrect.

>>81539598
>woah incredible argument, I can just say "that's false to your whole post" too lol
>But anyway If It wasn't obvious I brought up the XV century as an exageration
It's not just that it's an exaggeration. I thought that pointing out that all metrics keep only getting better in comparison with literally any other period in history.
So to claim that conditions are "jUsT aS BaD" is just nonsense.
Capitalism may have as a necessary consequence the creation of a class structure, but it can also improve the living conditions of all classes and the most impacted by these improvements are those at the lower classes as their changes are more significant. If capitalism can create the conditions under which people have all the means necessary or the access to satisfy their basic needs, then relative poverty is inconsequential as a moral argument.
>why isn't this the case
There are many reasons for this, mainly corruption and mismanagement. But as I said, poverty in first world countries is nothing like it is in 3rd world countries. Starvation is pretty much non-existent in the 1st world, and if it exists, it's a miniscule proportion of the population.

>>81539622
>Jews do not like you. Wake up shee-ACK!

>>81539662
I don't look like this at all. Way off.

>>81539662
The jew tries to appeal to our reason by invoking Marxism (lol) but when you point out that he is a Jew he starts lashing out emotionally instead

>>81539673
>lashing out emotionally instead
This you?
>>81539622
>>81539608
>>81539582
>>81539569
Not a single argument made in any of these posts. All appeals to emotion or ad hominems.
This lack of self-awareness should be classified as a disability.

>>81539697
no lmao I'm not any of those anons

>>81539673
Why the fuck would jews like an ideology that thinks religion will cease to exist and that looks to abolish class society (from which jewish people greatly benefit from, it doesn't make you a /pol/cel to admit this)

>>81539655
>It's not just that it's an exaggeration. I thought that pointing out that all metrics keep only getting better in comparison with literally any other period in history.
This is not true, things are getting worse everywhere what the fuck are you talkiing about?
Additionally, Marx never claimed that capitalism was all bad. In fact, he considered it to be a progressive force for destroying feudalism and advancing technology and production, which is coherent with what you say. The problem is that things are in a state in which they can become better and have for some time.

>But as I said, poverty in first world countries is nothing like it is in 3rd world countries. Starvation is pretty much non-existent in the 1st world, and if it exists, it's a miniscule proportion of the population.

This is correct, but it overlaps with what has been written on imperialism/colonialism.

>>81539697
No that wasn't him you stupid fucking goy.

>>81539703
>religion will cease to exist
Judaism is only nominally a religion, it's really an ethnic group, one that is massively overrepresented among socialist thinkers. Further, Jews are clearly willing to wield ideology as a tool to disrupt the actions of goyim; why do you think this board gets like 40% of its activity from Israel?
>looks to abolish class society
That's the stated goal, but it is not the true goal, at least not of those who use Marxism as a weapon. The real objective of promoting Marxism is to have countries adopt it and subsequently destroy themselves, making them more susceptible to Jewish subversion.

>>81539703
>This is not true, things are getting worse everywhere what the fuck are you talkiing about?
In comparison to what? Periods of stronger capitalism?
And metrics are in fact better, life expectancy, starvation rates, poverty rates, access to water, clothes, education, etc. All of those are overall rising.

>>81538859
>its the strongest predictor of crime bar none in criminology
Actually it's not. The strongest predictor of crime is race, and the richest blacks commit more crimes than the poorest whites.

>>81539728
>Judaism is only nominally a religion, it's really an ethnic group
This is a retarded claim. And it goes against literally what judaism says.
Anyone can become a jew. And there are many different ethnicities that make up the jewish population, even in fucking Israel.
>why do you think this board gets like 40% of its activity from Israel?
Lmfao are you retarded?
>That's the stated goal, but it is not the true goal, at least not of those who use Marxism as a weapon. The real objective of promoting Marxism is to have countries adopt it and subsequently destroy themselves, making them more susceptible to Jewish subversion.
The most schizo theory ever. Stalin wasn't even jewish and he actually got rid of most jews kn positions of power in his regime.
Marx also PARTICULARLY stated that he hated jews and that communism was basically a way of getting rid of jews.
Just because I say you're gay, it doesn't mean you're actually gay. But in this particular case, I think it's clear to everyone that you are, in fact, a homosexual.

>>81539728
I was also a 15 year old that spent 10 hours reading whatever /pol/fags told me to read so you'll grow out of this, but I know from experience that there's nothing I can say that will make you change your opinion. But you'll grow up eventually.

>>81539735
These have been going down the shitter as of recently man. There's a reason there's more and more social unrest. Capitalism can only go through the "crisis - prosperity" waltz so many times.

Anyway this is my last post ITT I'm visiting my grandma in a bit, have a nice day/night.

>>81539764
>as of recently man.
This is because the world has been moving towards leftism. But fair enough, you have to go.
>>81539751
This was already addressed as to why that stat is retarded.

>>81537652 (OP)
Sucks how whitey has to bend the knee to these people while ironically every single legal mexican suffers because of em. Legal spics are one of the few races that are actually decent, they won't stare daggers at you for walking down the skin while being white or call you a stupid lazy american for no reason like niggers and chinks. My only complaint is that they steal.

>>81539824
*Down the STREET
fuck you fuck You FUCK YOU

>>81537783
Yeah this must be it, I know if I lost a child to some illegal immigrant that shouldn't have been in the country in the first place, the last thing I would do is preach (((tolerance and acceptance)))

They have to be coerced into being such pathetic cucks

>>81539824
>My only complaint is that they steal.
Legal immigrants steal?
They are mostly right leanjng and tend to integrate well.
At least you are aware of the fact that illegals make legals look bad. I hate illegals with a passion. And I haven't even emigrated.

>>81537652 (OP)
He wants to grieve alone, he doesn't want a race war and for more people to die.

>>81537814
It's always Jews

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

Funny how they don't take that attitude with their Muslim neighbors

>>81539842
Yeah, when I leave items around any group of mexicans they have a very high probability of growing legs. I assume it's much lower in legals but most are still raised in a culture where stealing largely isn't treated as a big deal.

(((Globalism)))

(((Multiculturalism)))

(((Feminism)))

(((Racism)))

The 4 Great Isms of Societal Decline, brought to you by your local Jewish oligarch master

>>81539847
I think that the racial claims actually hurt him because his child is stripped of her individuality, and the fact that the races of perpetrator and victim were different override the loss of his daughter. It stops being "I lost my daughter" and it becomes "an illegal killed a white person".
His grief is shoved into a secondsry plane. He sees all these people who aren't actually supporting his daughter, but are actually just talking about race. The more it is about race, the less it is about his daughter.

>>81539862
Idk, I'm not Mexican. But I doubt that is the case.
Once again, race/class issue comes up. But, in my experience, that's mostly an issue I had when going to lower class areas.
Although, in school, leaving an item unattended means it could be easily stolen. But I attribute that to kids being assholes.
Having grown up where I did, I never saw it being "not regarded as a big deal". At all. More like, "take care of your stuff".

>>81539549
>Are you talking about blacks?
I am talking about your child with Nintendo.

>>81539598
>woah incredible argument, I can just say "that's false to your whole post" too lol
American poor's are literally obiese. Marxism failed. Deal with it.

>>81539756
>Stalin wasn't even jewish
>Joseph Jewgashvili
>Not Jewish