would you lose your freedom to be more happier?
>>81538608 (OP)what freedom? i am unable to do what i want in life regardless
>>81538608 (OP)if your asking if i would give my freedom up to an ai then yes
as long as it was somewhat benevolent
>>81538616You have more agency than you realize.
Depends on what you mean by freedom.
>>81538616let's imagine a parallel universe where you have freedom
>>81538608 (OP)no, i will be happy and free, and will choose to continue to do so, while making those around me stress-free and supported in their freedom of choices and pursuit of happiness
>>81538608 (OP)Depends what you mean, but in some contexts yes. Unlimited freedom is a myth, being bound by a credo others you wish to associate with share is a requirement for the highest level of freedom. Some freedoms including the freedom to experience certain things only exist because of rules.
>>81538628if i had freedom and was NOT happy then yes i would trade my freedom for happiness, being happy is realistically the only thing that matters in life. "free" people kill themself a lot more than happy people do
>>81538656Lose your free will and become an NPC who's decisions, goals, actions are determined by social pressure alone.
>>81538649Then, no. Even though I get the feeling there's a correct way to think, a correct way to act, and I'm not doing it.
>>81538663This is something that happens no matter what we choose, you have no say in this. You are always bound by your milieu. The way to maximize freedom is choosing the associations that align with your needs.
>>81538659i think that would be the correct answer to that question
>>81538608 (OP)trading off the little bit of debauchery I can barely have at times in this world for happiness? of fucking course sign me up please please
If by freedom you partially refer to one's ability to acquire knowledge then I really don't know
not having freedom will make you unhappy afterall if not straight away.
>>81539432the point of the thread is that you ARE happy without any freedom, not how would you feel without freedom
hmm
>>81539451 i would still prefer freedom cus challange is more interesting, being just happy would be boring
>>81538608 (OP)Yes I would give up everything just to be happy again
but also like if you are happy without having freedom you probably get what you want without disrupting your free will cus like not having freedom doesnt mean wanting it and not having, you simply may not want it, so thats okay too ig
so you can be kinda free by not having freedom since you may not want it lol
but if you want something and dont have free will to do it then it like makes u feel not happy, thats just how life works
would it matter if you wanted something and not getting it would make you not feel bad anyway i mean if it totally like 100% didnt make you any discomfortable then ig whats the problem, overall life this way might just turn out a bit more boring thats all