adderall allows you to do boring "pointless" things for hours and hours

how do you cultivate that mindset without drugs? The part of your brain that says "I am ok with doing bullshit for 12 hours because it will eventually be rewarded"

>>81539315 (OP)
I don't even have that mindset if I take drugs like adderall.
There is no drug state or mindset that has ever made me immune to procrastination, besides genuine fear of consequences.

>>81539315 (OP)
a clean and healthy diet, daily exercise, plenty of sunlight, and learning from your moral superiors.

>>81539315 (OP)
Experience boredom regularly and resist cheap entertainment until you're bored enough that you are willing to do the less exciting/boring things for relative stimulation and interest, even fun.

That's it (also everything this guy said):
>>81539335

>>81539421
yea true ive had that suspicion

i notice when i wake up and dont go on the internet first thing its easier to do boring things but then i go on instagram and my mind get raped and i cant focus for the rest of the day

>>81539459
for me, it's doom scrolling my phone
if I view 4chan on my pc somehow it doesnt suck me in the same way as my phone.
I have no idea why.
I didnt grow up with smart phones.

>>81539315 (OP)
You might not believe it but saying your prayers and taking your vitamins helps

>>81539421
>Experience boredom regularly and resist cheap entertainment until you're bored enough
>until you're bored enough
>implying
Not OP but even when I spent a month not jerking off I still spent all my time just entertaining myself with thoughts/jerking off a lot, and i still only spent like maybe an hour at most on more boring things like guitar and writing.

The idea that you have to experience a prerequisite boredom isn't really true. You just have to start doing the thing until eventually you start having fun. (I've never gotten there myself, but, from what I hear)