Thread 81557912 - /r9k/ [Archived: 1002 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:34:47 AM No.81557912
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So far this summer I read the Pentateuch and half of Beyond Good and Evil, and I'm almost done with reading The Republic with my book club. I just ordered some more books for the rest of the summer
>politics
>Groundwork for the Metaphysics of Morals
>The Paideia Proposal
>The Iliad
>The Brothers Karamazov
What are r9k's summer reads?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:53:06 AM No.81558055
>>81557912 (OP)
>What are r9k's summer reads?

>the prince(for the fourth time)
>picatrix
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:57:13 AM No.81558085
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>what are r9k's summer reads

Hegel's Phenomenology of the Spirit
St. Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologica
St. Augustine's Confessions
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:00:18 AM No.81558110
>>81558085
>>81558085
I probably won't get though all of Summa Theologica in this summer so I'll try just to have the 1st volume done before fall
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:04:10 AM No.81558145
>>81558085
Those are some difficult books. I have to admit that I am a little skeptical of books claiming to provide support for Christianity, because I was not raised Christian myself. But maybe one day I'll look into some Christian philosophers. Hegel is cool as well.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:36:49 AM No.81558384
>>81558145
thank you man. I will say, I was raised Christian so I have a little bias, but Aquinas is a genius when it comes to pure theological and philosophical thought. Summa Contra Gentiles is a great book to wrestle with if you're an atheist. and yes, Hegel is definitely a difficult read lol.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:58:42 AM No.81558575
>>81558384
The argument that truths coming from divinity are more valuable than those coming from rationality falls flat if you don't believe in a God, which is where Aquinas kind of loses me. I really have no desire to cease being atheist. I am not necessarily against religion, but Christianity in particular rings hollow for me.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:09:45 AM No.81558671
>>81558575
that's entirely fair, and I have no intention of evangelizing to you, don't worry. I myself am a little bit agnostic, but I've chosen to keep my faith because I find it more compelling than atheism when it comes to things like the existence of God and other things like ethics and meaning. But I would be happy to hear any book recommendations to challenge my own beliefs if you've got any.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:11:47 AM No.81558691
>>81558671
Books about atheism are generally bad because
>People believe in God based on faith
>Faith is often untrue
Isn't a good enough argument to stretch across an entire book. I think maybe reading Nietzsche might be best for you, because it will change your position on Christian ethics. Christianity as history is something you will have to challenge on your own.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:15:56 AM No.81558721
>>81558691
I've heard the premise for The Genealogy of Morals and I'm intrigued, and I own a copy of Thus Spoke Zarathustra but I haven't had a chance to read it yet. Maybe I'll crack it open here and there whenever I get time, thanks.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:22:12 AM No.81558760
>>81558721
Zarathustra is more or less impossible to read unless you already know what Nietzsche believed
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:26:25 AM No.81558798
>>81558760
I mean, I have a general idea about it because before I bought Zarathustra. I understand he greatly emphasized making the world your own, to wildly seize the life you were given with a drunken love for everything positive and negative that happens in it. at least, that's what I was able to understand from the exposure I've had to his works.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:27:29 AM No.81558809
>>81558798
oops, typo. I meant to say, "because before I bought Zarathustra I watched a couple videos about his philosophy."
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:30:39 AM No.81558841
>>81558798
Both of the things you said are correct, but I wouldn't consider either the core of his though.
The idea that drives all of Nietzsche's work is that the west adopted a moral code useful only to slaves because they converted to Christianity, which derives from Judaism, which is a religion invented by slaves. Thus, he rejects all traditional western morality in favor of a "revaluation of values," which is to say inventing a new value system that makes the world materially better instead of dogmatically accepting an old one.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:36:07 AM No.81558880
>>81558841
That's very interesting for sure. I will look into his works when I get a chance then, thanks.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:37:23 AM No.81558898
>>81557912 (OP)
Just a general reading list of classic books I've enjoyed over the years. Definitely not something you can complete in a summer, but pick and choose to your liking:

Picture of Dorian Grey
Crime and Punishment
Nicomachean Ethics
Don Quixote
Frankenstein
Death of Ivan Ilyich (short read, can be finished in an evening).
Candide by Voltaire
Dante's Inferno
Meditations on Philosophy by Descartes
Utilitarianism by John Stuart Mill
Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Nietzsche
Huckleberry Finn
Grapes of Wrath
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:38:36 AM No.81558908
>>81557912 (OP)
nothing, I'm soulless
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:38:53 AM No.81558912
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just portions of the good book
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:50:09 AM No.81558996
>>81558898
I'm surprised by the number of classic literature enjoyers in this thread. Perhaps they only responded because the OP is about classic literature
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:59:56 AM No.81559095
I read Groundwork for school and couldn't understand it
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:56:35 AM No.81559587
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>>81557912 (OP)
>What are r9k's summer reads?
The secret garden
The doors of perception
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:08:49 AM No.81559673
>>81557912 (OP)
>What are r9k's summer reads?
Trying to rekindle my joy of reading.
>Crime and Punishment (currently reading)
>The Idiot
>The Brothers Karamazov
>The Critique of Pure Reason
>Beyond Good and Evil
Have a whole reading document filled with books I want to read.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:16:32 AM No.81559724
>>81559673
Extremely similar to my list, anon
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:07:31 AM No.81560096
>>81558996
Not much else to do when vidya gets boring and you get off work.