looking for some insight into ideal foid traits, im trying to become bareable for men but its not working. no matter how hot i am my autism nerfs me

>>81596310 (OP)
I would do anything for an autistic gf, idk what you're talking about

>>81596310 (OP)
Go into some niche nerd event and find the moid there. At those place your autism will become a perk

>>81596310 (OP)
um just be yourself and don't force anything unironically if they don't like you that's their problem not yours and it wouldn't have worked anyways you'll find the right one someday

>>81596310 (OP)
Have BPD

>>81596310 (OP)
just try to love us

>>81596310 (OP)
just be kind and listen. thats all anyone wants.

>>81596310 (OP)
I wouldn't know, I'm a sperg and guys are usually freaked out by my clingyness and obsessive behavior over them. Then I got with my boyfriend that actually likes it, so I guess my advice would be to find someone that likes you for you even if that takes a while

>>81596318
how so?? every time i talk with someone, i feel like they can smell my autism retardation and its never worked in my favor

>>81596310 (OP)
Talk to somebody that doesn't want to bang you, extremely difficult in this day and age.

>>81596310 (OP)
stop trying to become something youre obviously not for male attention. it gives retarded 4chan pickme and men arent gonna wanna come near you if you outwardly portray your 4chan pickme traits

im being dead serious btw. i stopped being an outwardly retarded 4chan pickme, stopped calling myself a femcel and got a boyfriend easily

>>81596310 (OP)
>no matter how hot i am my autism nerfs me
Fake and gay for pretending to be a woman

>>81596310 (OP)
You're stupid, there will always be a guy that will put up with your bullshit, you simply need to put yourself until one of these guys reaches out.
You are the dumbest nigger on this board right now.

>>81596466
ah yes because autistic women cant exist. im on this retarded completely anon site, why would i pretend to be someone else to get advice that wouldnt even apply to me if i wasnt a fembot

>>81596480
friendly fire not cool, robots are robots we all have the same battles

>>81596326
This. Go to a Comicon or Fan Fusion or something. Maybe dress in a cute cosplay getup. Those big events usually have lots of social-centric events and meetups. Just be sure to avoid the weird pervs (unless you're into that thing). EZ

>>81596502
It's not friendly fire, women can't be robots, you will never understand what it's like to be undesirable as a man because you're an anxious and depressed loser, there will always be a man capable of loving you as you are or at the very least desire you.

>>81596502
Any thug would keep you as a girlfriend no matter the retardation, as long as you're not a hideous fat fuck.

>>81596310 (OP)
Always fuck black men exclusively, even when in a relationship with a white man. In fact I would encourage the latter more than the former

>>81596531
i have a fair amount of guys that hit on me but as soon as they tell im autism fucked, they vanish. i dont think the 'foids always have someone' narrative that you guys circlejerk is true

>>81596544
I think you're lying. Where are you from and what have you tried? Many men desire autistic women.

>>81596461
>pickme
dyke groomer coded word. End your fucking nigger life immediately

>>81596494
Like most other users on this board, attention, duh. However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because I did speak to a girl who's clearly autistic. Try thinking about other people instead of just thinking about yourself. A relationship is reciprocal.

>>81596558
im australian, i go out to music gigs and bars sometimes with my friend, some guy will approach and ask for my insta etc, but as soon as we actually start talking and i retardsperg out, they just ghost. has happened a solid 6-7 times, i dont say weird shit im pretty socially aware but obviously struggle to present as normal

>>81596544
Yeah right, my Vinny Jones looking cousin's gf is the biggest sperg I've ever seen in my life.

>>81596310 (OP)
Usually when I am around women, autistic acting women as well, I often feel that anything I say or do leads them to just blanky stare at me waiting for more input from me. I wish there were some women who would give anything back emotionally. There is so much rage bait these days about women being loud uppity bitches but every chick I come across is basically a puppy dog staring back at me with mouth agape waiting for instruction. I would rather a hoe tell me to kill myself. Fucking something in return conversationally.

>>81596426
Because they're probably normies or something.
Like, I wouldn't date a full-on autistic girl but I wouldn't mind her being a bit you know.

>>81596584
>Australia
You really want me to believe that the nation of degenerate men that take fists up the ass has a problem with sperg women?

>>81596584
Well, if you were American I would date you since an autistic GF is my dream, so you simply have to keep looking.

>>81596618
To be fair, those could be turbonormies since they're at gigs and bars.

>>81596310 (OP)
Top insight:
stop larping as an aspie

>>81596618
ive personally never seen or heard of this ass fisting thing, maybe i gotta get on that to finally find someone lul

>>81596630
turbonormies are so hard to avoid though, my biggest struggle is finding a fellow aspietard loser

>>81596544
You're either lying or misattributing why they stop talking to you. The girl I am in love with has autism. I have never met a man who rejected a woman they were interested in for being autistic (though I've met a few who've rejected BPD girls due to getting burned in the past).

I think honestly, attraction is either just naturally there or it isn't. As in, between two people. Either it's there or it's not. Nothing you can really do about it, it's just like a naturally existing thing, or it isn't. Yeah you can kind of improve the size of the "net" your casting, so to speak, in order to improve the amount of potential people you could meet or interact with where that spark might be present. Dress better lose weight etc. But really, you can't influence much.

You want to know something. I recently had a girl, conventially attractive, I mean not like a supermodel but she was thin white blonde basically hit on me irl, through text, basically kind of threw herself at me. I tell you this is not normal for me. But just, I'm not attracted to her. I don't find her attractive. There is nothing she could ever do to change that. It seems like that's what you're trying to do right? Change yourself to be more attractive. But I think that's ineffective- genuine, actual mutual attraction, I think it's binary. I've had 2 gfs in my life I'm a 33 year old male. The first girl I was just so God damn naturally attracted to her I still think about her everyday it's been like 6 years. The second girl, I was attracted to her too, but not as much as the first and eventually I broke up with her because of it.

I think that's your option here - just a cold blackpill acceptance that genuine mutual actual romantic/sexual attraction is very rare, very intense, and should be held onto. You don't WANT to put on some fake front and attract males who want you for sexual reasons, I can assure you that. A prostitute job is to do that. I have seen many prostitutes they are deeply miserable hardened souls. Just be yourself (yes it's cringe), but meet more people. Increases the chances of finding that actual genuine mutual attraction. And then find yourself deeply hurt like the rest of us when it ends in tragedy or heartache. Attraction is so much more than looks as well.

>>81596723
More than looks or stupid trivial crap. It's whether you like vibe together, can be comfortable just being together just doing nothing, how she smells how she moves. I cam feel attraction within me towards her and I couldn't honestly even tell you why it's just there or it isn't. If it's there it's like this animalistic primal thing, if it's not why force it? Find peace in being alone instead.

>>81596690
Try having non-normie hobbies then.

>>81596630
Must be different in Europe, sure bars are for normies and niggerball people but gigs are already freak adjacent.
>>81596721
Man, fuck BPD skanks, not as bad as the manipulators with all the marbles though, can't avoid em even as a sperg, or maybe that's how most women are.

>>81596310 (OP)
If you're pretty/good at makeup and can hold a conversation, you can have any man you want. "Ideally" you should also be affectionate/open to intimacy, considerate, have interesting hobbies and avoid engaging in libtard therapyspeak.
Intelligence preferences vary from man to man: some like girls stupid, some like them smart, though whether they'll condescend to you has no correlation with said preference either way.

>>81596310 (OP)
Outside of memes and robot delusions, here are some ideal traits from someone with experience
>enjoys teasing and banter, not overly sensitive or serious
>isnt a doormat, stands up for herself, doesnt accomodate people who contradict her values to be "nice"
>isnt swayed by the judgement of her friends, doesnt conform to their preferences in order to maintain her status in the group
>has a good relationship with both parents
>doesnt spend a lot of time in social contexts where the eventuality of stranger sex is commonplace, i.e. nightclubs, bars, festivals, etc
>doesnt wear clothing for the purpose or appealing to the male gaze
>doesnt deflect unwanted male sexual attention by being meek, cooperative, and kind
>isnt naive, takes responsibility for her own safety and is aware of the physical disparities between men and women
>doesnt have loads of male friends that are constantly attempting to become more than friends
The rest is all idiosyncratic, but those are my absolute musts.

>>81596772
i just still dont understand, i can hold a conversation although im quite quiet and live a very isolated life, im considered as attractive and i work and go to uni, yet i just dont think this is true. i think i was just nerfed from within, i cant think of a reason that ive never been able to hold down a proper relationship other than the fact that im a bit of a sperg with my interests and have pretty bad social anxiety. wtf why is it so easy for people who have the exact same features/personality as me. sorry if this sounds like bitchwhining but i just dont understand

having a fat pussy helps

>>81596846
Are you from Perth, WA? I might know who you are.

>>81596779
>not a backstabber
>not a slut
>not a delusional retard
Decent list more or less.

>>81596779
Being hot doesn't do jack shit if you're a massive fucking asshole who is also anoned

>>81596871
no lol another major city, but nice to know theres fellow aussie bots

>>81596544
>foids always have someone' narrative that you guys circlejerk is true
If you are who I think you are, it is true though?
>>81596584
>im australian, i go out to music gigs and bars sometimes with my friend,
Ok this is you lol, wtf? Perth? WA? Drain gang?

>>81596310 (OP)
The other day I looked up an ol crossplayer I liked a couple yrs ago. He passed and had the girliest voice ever from like a decade of practice shitposting as a teen. Anyway he had grown a goatee and unfortunately inherited his dad's balding. It was so jarring I stepped out for a drink lmao I totally get Decaprio and priests now

you sound pretty meek so your only pitfalls would be acting too depressed, getting out of shape, and not being socialized enough to know how to flirt or respond to affection. Otherwise just keep being you, enjoy your hobbies, foster your relationships, etc. It's easier to love someone who isn't an insect than someone cool

>>81596921
If this isnt you, thats nuts. Your posts are 1:1 the same as the situation of the Australian woman I am in love with. I was about to fucking say, "have no one", come off it

>>81596846
I don't know, how retarded could you possibly sound? Sure you're not omitting something?
At least you're not getting used if that makes you feel better.

>>81596426
on this: the only time autism and hyperfixation are annoying are when it gets boring or is intrusive to other shit.
Ex. Dude starts talking about anything and it somehow always gets looped by you to your fixation.
That being said it's important to fill your well of a person by having investment in hobbies, skills, passions, and relationships outside the person you like IMO

>>81596961
i do fw drain gang but unfortunately not the person you thought i was, us femcels are in every state >:)

>>81596985
Not sure I believe you. Dont lie to yourself, you know I would be there at the airport within 24 hours. You have options. Oh well

I stopped being friends with my femcel friend and it fucked her up. I felt kinda guilty but she was extremely prone to anger.

>>81596999
im swooning i want to meet my doppleganger one day, although ive never been to perth. i hope you get your girl though, you sound like a great guy

Please tell me about some of your hyperfixations

>>81597020
You'd love her, shes one in a billion. Her story is just like yours, autistic, but has a good job, goes to concerts with friends but struggles to develop romantic emotional attachments. We've known each other 3-4 years, spoken for a few months each time but she eventually breadcrumbs and cuts it off. Tells me she isnt in the right headspace, isnt able to be on the same emotional level as me... It is agonising. Honestly this thread sent me fucking spinning, if these posts were her I think my head might actually explode. I have made it clear to her time and time again, say "Come" and I will be there on the red earth of Aus within a day. I love her, but she will never love me the same way, so for her to be making threads claiming she has no options, men ghost her, and she is unlikable is utterly maddening. Really fucking hope you arent her man, best wishes

>>81597040
i study mathematics in uni, so i guess i spaz out on that a fair bit. also a big fan of crochet and knitting, most recently ive gotten into 3d modelling and game development although im ass at it atm. are you a fellow aspie sperg with special interests??

>>81596310 (OP)
stomach full balls empty shrimpel as

>>81596502
>the foid thinks she's one of us

>>81597066
wait do you live in australia or overseas?? the words you use remind me of an ex i had briefly a couple years ago and its wigging me out lol

>>81597070
Crochet and knitting sounds cool. Would you mind sharing a picture or two of some of the things you've made? Also for me, it's suspected that I'm on the spectrum but have never really sought testing. I mean, technically I did but school never cared and I wasted my chance last year after having been on a waiting list for maybe two years?

>>81597109
I am 28, from London, and the worlds biggest emotional cuckold. I dont think you know me

>>81597118
no, im 19 lol. wishing you the best for the future though!!

>>81597118
I turned 30 on Jan 8th

>>81596310 (OP)
Don't try to be hot, just try to be nice.

>>81597115
tissue box i just crocheted!! still a bit of decor to finish, but pretty happy with it for the time being!! the diagnosis waitlist is brutal for real, plus diagnosis can kind of fuck you over at times with everyone thinking youre slow lul

>>81597070
Funny, I'm into 3D modelling and used to mod games and wanted to learn how in the devil knitting works, sperg too.
>>81597118
You should just let it go, I think I may have been on the other side of the situation but as a fiercely loyal friend, wish the chick was more like you.

>>81597196
Being 100% real, that is amazing. Have you considered selling on etsy or do you give them as gifts or keep them? Really nice job.

>>81596310 (OP)
>ideal foid traits
Not fat, cute, compatible personality.

>>81597206
>You should just let it go.
Tried. Can't. I sometimes wish I was the type of psycho to find her at her work or something, but I'm a normal kind person.
>wish the chick was more like you
No one should be like me. This is emasculating, degrading, debasing. I am made a small bleating child again. I despise myself

>>81596310 (OP)
The ideal gf wouldn't need to ask how to be ideal. She would just be so
DO better...

>be a biological woman
90% of 4chan "femanons" fail at this one simple step

>>81596310 (OP)
"I'm trying to be a slut but it's not working halp"
Jesus Christ, women aren't capable of anything anymore without someone to handhold them.

>>81597206
knitting still freaks me out a fair bit but knitted scarves and sweaters are worth the pain. Once you get over the learning curve of yarning over and the gazillion different stitches you can choose from, it becomes sort of muscle memory so definitely worth putting the effort in to if you want some sick winter clothes!!

do you do 3d modelling on blender?? ive been mainly using it and srsly the entire interface is so intimidating, but its so satisfying to complete some shitty project and put the cool shading and lighting on it and admire the homunculus

>>81597285
She has deep insecurities and feels like she needs to change herself to be likable. Please don't try to make her feel worse.

>>81596461
>pickme
Every time you hear a woman call another woman a "pickme", it's a jealous bitter horrible bitch how see's a woman better than herself and she is afraid that this woman is raising the standards for women, so she attacks her. Every single time

>>81597285
yeah im not trying to be a slut or anything, im a big believer in just finding 'the one' for whatever that means. hard to achieve that when youre autism nerfed and not very experienced

>>81597302
You seem really nice. I would feel wrong dating you for that reason.

>>81597246
feeling things as hard and deep as you do doesnt mean youre a cuck or whatever, it just means that you genuinely care which is a lot more than a lot of people are capable of. Obviously the downside is that you feel pain more, but once you find that perfect second half, itll make all the pain worthwhile, whether it be perth doppleganger or someone you havent found yet :)

>>81596310 (OP)
Serious question, do you feel like when a guy gets upset with something you do, that he must not like who you are?

>>81596310 (OP)
Is your problem attracting men or keeping them?

>>81596461
I'm a guy but this is good advice op
Women that try to be too edgy like the ones on here are a red flag. Unironically bee yourself, it works far better for women than men

>>81597344
i guess to a certain extent. Im a very passive person and really struggle with confrontation or criticism, so i do take someone being upset with me quite hard since it feels like ive let them down and ruined everything, so definitely some level of internalisation

>>81597302
Explain "autism nerfed" in your specific situation please.

And I'm not the same anon but do you generally do sexual shit with guys online a lot?

>>81597361
What is your limit with men?

>>81597367
i guess autism nerfed in the sense that i struggle to small talk with people and build up relationships to the point where the deeper things can happen. its that transition between acquaintances to friends that i really struggle with since i feel like im constantly bothering everyone around me

also in regards to the online stuff, proud to say never have, ive never been interested in that stuff lol

>>81597361
Yeah every woman I've dealt with is like this. Then past a certain point they just zone out and act like you're being overly critical and don't like them for who they are.
At no point do they genuinely try to engage with what I'm saying and it feels like I'm talking to a wall.

I can give you an example. I used to play Vidya with a girl who had a shitty laptop and could barely run any games. She would save up money and blow it on absolute nonsense, like over $100 on in game skins on a free game.

When I suggested saving up to get a new laptop in a few months she told me that she had more important things to save up for, and yet went on to blow $100+ in that game in a week or two. whenever I tried talking to her about it, it would just annoy and upset her. At some point if you want to have an actual relationship with a guy, you need to communicate or you'll just end up picking guys that seem calm and loving on the surface but will cheat on you when they get bored

>>81597355
Being edgy is completely unrelated to (and possibly negatively correlated with) being a "pick-me". Pick-mes don't do the "misandry is cool" feminist in-group signalling.

>>81597402
yeah i appreciate your advice, definitely something i need to work on. its not much of a relationship if it becomes so one sided with the other person not being able to express anything personal without fear of criticism or getting walked all over

You must be from Luxembourg.. That's my biggest one..

>>81597246
Don't be like that, man, you liked her and you tried, there's nothing to be ashamed of and I sympathise, I fucked up the last 10 years of my life over people I never even met and maybe sexchatted with twice, you can get over it.

And you bet your bong ass I wish she was more like you, I doubt you started suicide baiting, fucked random creeps and raved on about how people are replaceable before leaving.
I never ghosted her and made it clear I wanted to be her friend whatever happened, hell I'd have died a virgin if that kept her from getting hurt.

>>81597292
Man, you're making me want to knit that red scarf I crave in the scorching heat.

Yep, started on Blender eons ago and made quite a bit of stuff, some things are convoluted indeed, ever tried baking textures?

>>81597427
Yes knit the scarf!! Never too hot to wear a handmade accessory, its worth the sacrifice to bear the fruits of your labor

havent gotten up to proper texturing and whatnots yet, im still at the 'add shape change shape of shape and then piece all the pieces together ooga booga' stage of blender, although definitely wanting to learn textures soon!!

>>81597423
biggest anime waifu lol??

fucking foid just wants to get gangbanged like they all do

>>81596426
Well, they don't feel your autism, they understand that you are autistic, there is a clear line between understanding and feeling

>>81597483
You expect me to wear the thing in the summer?
I'm a brawny wooly mammoth of a man that melts at 12C, I would die, look great surely but die surely as well.

You've got a loooong ways to go with blender, that thing is a bottomless pit of esoteric mechanics, most of what I know must have been revealed to me in fever dreams, rendering and baking with the same look as the material preview but with transparent background alone is a bit of an odyssey.

>>81597408
So in order to not be a pickme, does one have to do the "misandry is cool" shit?
I absolutely despise women who rant about moids.
I dislike men that rant about foids almost as much, except when they're pointing out the obvious fact that women just don't have to take responsibility for their actions ever

>>81597418
Serious question, why is it that your instinct is to back off and shut the conversation down when there's any sort of issue

>>81597672
Maybe not, but "pick-me" IS more or less synonymous with "anti-feminist woman". Feminism is a *measurably* unattractive trait, even to male feminists.

>>81597685
I'm not exactly sure, im very aware of the feelings and emotions of the people around me and try my hardest to make the people that matter to me happy, and im terrified of ever making them upset, so instead of trying to proactively talk through issues that im worried could bring up negative feelings, i tend to just be avoidant instead. bad habit i know ive gotta work on, but its hard to stop feeling so guilty everytime i might hurt someone

>>81597651
the only other respectable option for you then is to knit a super cool bag so you can always flex your superior knitting skills on the plebs who cant knit.

youve inspired me to do some more research into rendering in blender too yay, the small bits ive tried to research so far have given me a minor stroke

>>81596310 (OP)
just dont be a fucking bitch lmao

>>81596310 (OP)
>no matter how hot i am my autism nerfs me
If guys don't want you because you're mentally ill then you're not hot enough sweetie.
I'm a self destructive dropout with abandonment issues and guys still want me bad, try looking younger, all men are pedophiles anyways.

>>81597736
Now I wonder if avoiding hurting other people but also fixating saving them from their retarded ways is a sperg thing specifically, I really fucked my life up doing that.

>>81597768
I don't know if a purse is a good idea if I want to avoid gay allegations with my luscious long hair, artsy background and celibacy, heheh.
I could go for a woven straw hat but it wouldn't scratch that knitting itch.

Man, I need a sperg friend, you're making me want to teach you the things I do with transform orientations, pivots and normals.
You'll start loving the minor strokes eventually, every tenth one you'll slap your head because you found something that solves things in five seconds instead of the five minutes it took before.

What about game development? Did you come up with some cool concepts?
I got a couple of three things jotted down but I don't know if it would be worth the time to do em, no even sure if my godawful programming skills could pull it off, or at least make it run on a computer that's not quantic.

>>81598024
I do agree is a very spergy thing to have this sort of 'savior complex' with the people around you, its easier to prioritise the people around you so you dont have to think about yourself, you can just feel satisfied helping the people around you. Obviously comes with the catch that letting people walk all over you is going to make you spaz out eventually.

Id love to learn from the blender master himself, real spergs recognise real spergs!! So far I've been learning all the keyboard shortcuts that i dont really know what they exactly do, but they give me what i need so im happy to live in ignorance for now. Finally putting that linear algebra class to work lol.

In terms of game dev, i know its super generic but id love to make a small pixel art something as my first project. Art isnt really my strong point and pixels seem easy to work with?? Maybe some sort of Stardew Valley ripoff that can sit in the bottom of my pc harddrive and never see the light of day. Otherwise id want to use my (hopefully in the future) goated blender skills to make some sort of narrative game, a bit ambitious but im obsessed with the last of us games and would love to make something adjacent.

In terms of the programming, i feel you heavy man. Everything about game dev sounds so fun until it gets to the fucking coding part, im hoping visual scripting can carry me most of the way. I reckon if youve got some ideas and some spare time, why dont give those ideas a shot?? Worst case scenario, youre stuck knowing C++ and have added a skill to the resume, and best case scenario is that you make a super freaking sick game!!!

>>81598232
>saviour complex
What really fucked me up was people fucking themselves up or at least allegedly doing so likely for attention, manipulators are a sperg's bane, fucked me up for a long long time.
They sure got my attention I'll give em that.

>blender master
Eh I still forget how in the hell you bake to another UV map sometimes, the shortcuts you really need are F3 and whatever the merge and cursor controls were, was it ALT+N and SHIFT+S? Weird to remember without a keyboard to press.
>linear algebra
Heh, I loved those courses, pure math you can do through sheer processing power even if your brain is completely cooked.

>pixel art
Never did any pixel art even though I did quite a bit of illustrations, no idea how easy it is to make things look cool if you're unskilled.
Why did I have to cross you in this damn thing? I'd have had a blast helping with that.
>sit on a hard drive
Feed it to /v/ and hope they don't chew you too bad, it's fun to upload random stuff you do online and see what people do with it.
>narrative game
>tlou
Was it a cover shooter? You can probably scavenge most of the code since everyone wants to do one of those, can't guarantee how polished it is though, I only modded boomer/zoomer shooters.

I was thinking of making this isometric fantasy but with a port royale type logistics game that runs on the background because I hate myself and I always wanted to see something dumb like that.

>programming
I am formally trained in C++ and C and programming theory, I still suck absolute dick at it for some weird reason, a life of stealing from github and stack exchange might be the culprit.
I mean I'm not going to pull a YandereDev but I'm certainly no Sawyer.
>resume
I live in the middle of nowhere in some ancient village, I don't think shepherds need a brand new lamb management desktop app.

>>81597709
There's too many other possibilities here. Namely that of just being a normal person who doesn't pander to retards on either side of the aisle.
>>81597736
That's a lot of words to say "I don't like being confronted". If you're either. Dude that loves you and genuienly wants a good future, then you actually engaging with him will be what he wants.
Again, if a guys cool with you just not accepting responsibility he likely doesn't care about you and is using you.
Most women however seem to have the mindset of "he doesn't truly get me" for the former and "omg he's the one we never argue life is so great!" For the second one (until they realize that life isn't so great)

>>81596318
Hello, here is an autistic person, unfortunately there are not many autistic girls, but I also want one.

>>81597104
>probably not even a virgin

>>81597393
Jesus, marry me now.

>>81598232
>>81598548
If you want a sperg buddy
nobody_11636