do you live in a clean environment?
are you physically healthy?
even if youve given up on love please dont give up on yourself. theres more to life and you wont be able to live it if you arent looking out for yourself.

>>81604328 (OP)
very based thread, thank you OP. I am doing push ups currently and will soon be doing dips. I am a weak piece of shit, and even if I never become truly strong, I won't stop trying, even if while others fly, i can only crawl, like a larvae.
Anyone else working out right now? Let's keep strong, everyone

>>81604328 (OP)
nah bro im gonna kill myself soon it sucks being a gay incel.

Stopped going to the gym a few months ago after I got mogged hard. I've become much weaker since

>>81604328 (OP)
I threw away all of my piss bottles this morning, the oldest ones were a year old. Some of them were open and the piss had evaporated.

>>81604328 (OP)
>do you live in a clean environment?
i try
>are you physically healthy?
no
>even if youve given up on love please dont give up on yourself.
it was over before it even began for me

>>81604375
Doing some strength stuff, even if it's just light, can make a big difference for your back, posture and feeling good in you body. Learning to do a pull-up is a worthwhile goal to pursue. The sedentary lifestyle takes its toll. Youth may protect us for a while, but that doesn't last.

>>81604328 (OP)
>do you live in a clean environment?
mostly
>are you physically healthy?
no

>>81604461
trying is a good start anon :) i have hope for you

>>81604328 (OP)
No I'm an alcoholic and I keep prying for my liver to give out. There's nothing in the world that I look forward to, I've simply been "existing" for a decade now. I don't even want a wife, a big house, kids, I'm just prying for the day when I don't have to wake up.

>>81604488
there is no hope for me i just keep things clean so that when i die i dont further inconvenience my family with filth

>>81604412
the guy who mogged you gets mogged too. and anyone who moggs him will eventually get mogged, too.
Sure, there will be many better than you, but you can be better than you were yesterday, and reach a level of competence that is, at least, pretty good. It'll feel good, and it'll be better than what you will be like if you do not train.
I have good news, too. If you go back to the gym, you will get your gains back faster than if you had never began to train. Feel free to look that up if you don't believe me, it is true. Don't give up on yourself just yet, anon, you can achieve happiness, and you can achieve strength.
>>81604428
Nice. Please never have those again. Please.
Next step i suppose is clean the floors of your room and the walls to get rid of any odor/ evaporated urine. Please. What the fuck.
>>81604461
Over? I didn't hear a bell. Do what you can, even if it's just 5 push ups today, or even if it's just going on a walk, or calling a friend for 5 minutes. 1% better everyday.
>>81604467
You're spot on brother. I'm on the road to being able to do one pull up. Doesn't help that I'm a fat fuck, but whatever that's just an added challenge, i'm gonna crush it someday.
>>81604510
Sorry man. Maybe inbetween massive drinking binges you could look for things that you do like, that might make it 1% more worth it to exist.
>>81604544
The fact that you're so considerate means you're not all bad. If you can keep the whole house clean that's some genuine value you're providing for your family. I'll bet they care about and appreciate you.

>>81604778
>If you can keep the whole house clean that's some genuine value you're providing for your family.
i barely manage it, im tired and overwhelmed all the time. i cried washing the dishes

>>81604328 (OP)
>do you live in a clean environment?
Mostly. My room is messy sometimes but I keep it relatively clean. Vacuum, wash my sheets regularly, try not to eat in my room
>are you physically healthy?
No. I get killer, debilitating migraines regularly that last for days and make it hard to sleep, eat, and just get out of bed. I need to go see a doctor about it soon.

>>81604328 (OP)
no. i haven't vacuumed or cleaned in probably close to a year and all i eat is fast food. i brush my teeth once every 3-4 days and i get 0 exercise. i have no desire to change so i'll probably remain this way for the forseeable future.

I walked 25 minutes to the gym, did a 20 minute heavy cardio routine, and walked 25 minutes back home. I did that yesterday and today. I want to do 90 workouts this summer, with this workout being the baseline. After I do a week of these I'm going to add some other stuff. I weigh 235 right now and I want to weigh 205 by the start of fall. I'm getting pumped about trying to take better care of my body and not being fat anymore.

>>81604328 (OP)
Maybe I have it all wrong about what foids want, but I intentionally keep my body slender and don't work out so I can pull off a twink kind of style, even at 35

I used to live the sterotypical fembot lifestyle, would just bedrot, drink, isolate and cry. Then I hit the gym and actually started feeling better. Turns out all the therapist 'bs' about going out on walks, exercise, cleaning, eating and sleeping well, and meditating is actually effective if you give it a shot.

>>81604328 (OP)
No. It is something I'm horribly ashamed of. I feel like a child in a grown body. I can't clean my apartment. Usually I just let trash and clothing build up and food rot on the counter. I know this is disgusting, but for some reason I can't push myself to complete the absolute simplest tasks required to keep my space clean. What's more, even when I do clean my apartment, everything still feels dirty. My parents always had cleaners growing up and I guess I never learned how to clean anything properly because even after wiping down surfaces with rags and cleaning materials it leaves streaks and feels funky.
Also, physical health. I am overweight. I've known about the problem for a year now and I've done nothing because I find more joy in food now than almost anything else. Alcohol too. I drink daily. I know I'm killing myself (and making myself less attractive) and it does hurt, but I just can't bring myself to fix it.
I don't really take care of my cognition either. I theoretically want to learn things, develop new skills, but it's so much easier to watch youtube and browse r9k.
I don't take care of myself financially. I overspend. I have enough savings at this point that it's okay for now, but in the future it might not be.
And socially... forget about it. I have no skills. No romantic prospects, no chance of starting a family.
In every area that I could take care of myself, I fail to do so.

>>81604328 (OP)
I live in squalor but at least I am stopping drinking (Almost)

gave up in my late 20s and now I eat 90% vegan junk food and a couple of multivitamins everyday. I don't feel any worse and my blood tests are fine. I feel so stupid now looking back at all the wasted hours and effort.

>>81605491
train shoulders if you're going for the twink style. It'll make you look bigger without looking buff.

>>81605228
look at that man, you're fighting as hard as you can every day to not be a nuisance to your family. Maybe the most you can do isn't as much as the most some other people can do, but if you keep going forward, 1% better everyday, one day you might become someone you can really be proud of, and I think your tolerance for uncomfortable activities will improve. You're a warrior in my eyes, man. And I bet your family really appreciates you.

>>81604328 (OP)
Not really, i'm a druggie, i'm a little bit underweight cuz I eat like shit, if you count brushing your teeth and taking baths as taking care of yourself then I guess yeah, I may start working out tho, an anon told me that I look like a take care of myself... in one of those picrew threads tho :(